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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 992
7/12/2005 4:57 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Alcoholics are known to obsess about the same thing over and over, are you drunk? High? It appears that you are. You sound as obnoxious as any other boozing druggie. I was listening to you for a while, but now I think you may have a substance abuse
-->Looks like the cult is in character assassination mode. |
| Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/12/2005 5:23 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
458, you said:
“Actually Anders/Andy, you are wrong, I am not Ark, although I was in the group when you were in it. I remember that, at the time you were attacking VB, many in the group were telling you to lay off because things were getting out of hand.
The above information the QFG have provided is the truth of what happened.
Andy, I do not know what has happened to you since you left the group, but what you say above about being Lauras´ gofer is a lie, a big lie.”
No, 458, Andy is telling the truth. You and he are talking about different timelines of the same event. When the “attack” on VB started, Laura and Ark (mostly Ark) egged Andy on, telling him what to say and how to say it. This was especially true on the Matrioshka group, which has a number of ex-C members on it. Ark eventually joined Andy there, and the two of them double-ganged the M group. By that time, Andy was being personally attacked by the M members and was angrily firing back. It got so bad that the moderator of Matrioshka (also an ex-C member) wiped everyone off the list that he knew or suspected was connected to the C group and deleted all the offending archives. The fact is, Andy WAS told what to say; I saw many of the emails with my own eyes. And, no, they were not posted to the group; they were off-list. Laura and Ark eventually started asking him to stop, but they were the ones who started it. They used Andy’s loyalty to them, then cut him loose when they figured he might be a liability. And please, C-Ville, don’t write back and say it didn’t happen. It did. I saw it – again, off-list. Saying that others are lying does not make it so, by the way, no matter how many times you repeat the same ridiculous phrase. Those are the same tactics the government and the military use to keep people from finding out the truth.
Will some friend of Ark’s please be kind enough to tell him that his broken-record routine doesn’t work. It’s annoying and looks just like what it is – a way not to have to answer uncomfortable questions. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:24 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Actually Anders/Andy, you are wrong, I am not Ark,although I was in the group when you were in it.
I remember that, at the time you were attacking VB, many in the group were telling you to lay off because things were getting out of hand.
The above information the QFG have provided is the truth of what happened.
Andy, I do not know what has happened to you since you left the group, but what you say above about being Lauras´ gofer is a lie, a big lie.
The trouble with lies of course is that, when you tell one lie, you have to cover it up with another, so on and so forth until the lie becomes huge.
I am dissapointed to see that you have become such a liar Andy, how many more lies have you told?
By the way this is my final post to this thread, so you can rant as much as you like as I will not be participating any longer.
Thank you for your concern.
This is my reply.
I have a copy of a legal document in front of me, prepared by sharon pittman and david carter, attorneys at law, 7419 US highway 19, new port richey FL 34652-1240
YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
AND HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
it is the sale document, the plot no-09-26-16-0030-11700-0070
it describes the sale by Laura and Ark of the house that was supposed to have been given away in a raffle 5 days after the raffle draw date of 16th january 2003
the document lists Laura´s address in France, and Laura and Ark signed the sale deed via a French Notary - with a French Notary´s official stamp
an August 22nd 2003 sale (7 months, 28 weeks LATE - 28 weeks AFTER the house title deed should have been signed over for ZERO DOLLARS!) of an
alleged $200,000 property (LMAO), as per Laura´s sc, er, raffle blurb
see here [link to web.archive.org]
to generate a heady and greedy $300k
(Anders - and to my interpretation of the relevant NON-PROFIT AND CHARITY laws, totally illegal...)
which went for a measly, MEASLY $95,100!!!!!
LMAO! If it wasn´t such a rip-off!
that is $105,000 LESS than Laura said to all the raffle ticket buyers!
´One lucky ticket holder will win the approximately 3,000 sq. ft, 6-bedroom, 2-bath, 2 living room, double lot (100X 150 feet) home located in the quiet, picturesque, small town of New Port Richey, Florida. The home´s market value is $200,000. You may obtain more than one ticket, however, a limit of 6,000 are available.´
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY - IT WAS ***SOLD*** BY LAURA AND ARK TO THE SWANSON FAMILY!!!
YES, YOU HEARD IT - SOLD FOR $95,100
$104,900 BELOW LAURA´S FICTIONAL MARKET PRICE!
WHEN ACCORDING TO LAURA AND ARK THEY HAVE SAID FOR YEARS THAT THEY ***GAVE*** THE PROPERTY AWAY IN A HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE!!!
SO WHERE IS THE WINNER LAURA AND ARK???
IS IT THE SWANSONS???
DO ´WINNERS´ OF RAFFLES NORMALLY PAY $95,100 FOR THEIR PRIZE???
IF I ENTER A RAFFLE TO WIN A PORSCHE 911, I DO NOT EXPECT TO BE GIVEN A PORSCHE BOXSTER AT HALF THE VALUE!
AND I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE ORGANISERS OF SAID RAFFLE TO NOT GIVE THE PORSCHE 911 AWAY, FREE, TO A RANDOMLY CHOSEN WINNER PER THE TERMS OF THE RAFFLE, THEN TO FIND OUT YEARS LATER THAT THE ORGANISERS SECRETLY SOLD THE PRIZE 911 (REALLY A LOUSY BOXSTER) YEARS BEFORE, SOME 28 WEEKS AFTER THE LEGAL DRAW DATE!!!
WHAT AN ALMIGHTY RIP-OFF!!!!!!! THEY SELL THE HOUSE AND POCKET ALL THE RAFFLE MONEY TOO???
EVEN IF THE HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE WAS LEGIT - YOU HAVE FALSELY ADVERTISED A $200K HOME TO BE WON, AT $50 A TICKET, WHEN IN FACT THE DUMP IS WORTH LESS THAN HALF THAT - BY RIGHTS ALL TICKET HOLDERS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND OF THEM BY ALL ACCOUNTS, SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF $27 PER TICKET RETURNED TO THEM!
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:25 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hello Anders,
Alcoholics are known to obsess about the same thing over and over, are you drunk? High? It appears that you are. You sound as obnoxious as any other boozing druggie. I was listening to you for a while, but now I think you may have a substance abuse problem.
Thank you for your concern.
This is my reply.
I have a copy of a legal document in front of me, prepared by sharon pittman and david carter, attorneys at law, 7419 US highway 19, new port richey FL 34652-1240
YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
AND HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
it is the sale document, the plot no-09-26-16-0030-11700-0070
it describes the sale by Laura and Ark of the house that was supposed to have been give away in a raffle 5 days after the raffle draw date of 16th january 2003
the document lists Laura´s address in France, and Laura and Ark signed the sale deed via a French Notary - with a French Notary´s official stamp
an August 22nd 2003 sale (7 months, 28 weeks LATE - 28 weeks AFTER the house title deed should have been signed over for ZERO DOLLARS!) of an
alleged $200,000 property (LMAO), as per Laura´s sc, er, raffle blurb
see here [link to web.archive.org]
to generate a heady and greedy $300k
(Anders - and to my interpretation of the relevant NON-PROFIT AND CHARITY laws, totally illegal...)
which went for a measly, MEASLY $95,100!!!!!
LMAO! If it wasn´t such a rip-off!
that is $105,000 LESS than Laura said to all the raffle ticket buyers!
´One lucky ticket holder will win the approximately 3,000 sq. ft, 6-bedroom, 2-bath, 2 living room, double lot (100X 150 feet) home located in the quiet, picturesque, small town of New Port Richey, Florida. The home´s market value is $200,000. You may obtain more than one ticket, however, a limit of 6,000 are available.´
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY - IT WAS ***SOLD*** BY LAURA AND ARK TO THE SWANSON FAMILY!!!
YES, YOU HEARD IT - SOLD FOR $95,100
$104,900 BELOW LAURA´S FICTIONAL MARKET PRICE!
WHEN ACCORDING TO LAURA AND ARK THEY HAVE SAID FOR YEARS THAT THEY ***GAVE*** THE PROPERTY AWAY IN A HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE!!!
SO WHERE IS THE WINNER LAURA AND ARK???
IS IT THE SWANSONS???
DO ´WINNERS´ OF RAFFLES NORMALLY PAY $95,100 FOR THEIR PRIZE???
IF I ENTER A RAFFLE TO WIN A PORSCHE 911, I DO NOT EXPECT TO BE GIVEN A PORSCHE BOXSTER AT HALF THE VALUE!
AND I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE ORGANISERS OF SAID RAFFLE TO NOT GIVE THE PORSCHE 911 AWAY, FREE, TO A RANDOMLY CHOSEN WINNER PER THE TERMS OF THE RAFFLE, THEN TO FIND OUT YEARS LATER THAT THE ORGANISERS SECRETLY SOLD THE PRIZE 911 (REALLY A LOUSY BOXSTER) YEARS BEFORE, SOME 28 WEEKS AFTER THE LEGAL DRAW DATE!!!
WHAT AN ALMIGHTY RIP-OFF!!!!!!! THEY SELL THE HOUSE AND POCKET ALL THE RAFFLE MONEY TOO???
EVEN IF THE HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE WAS LEGIT - YOU HAVE FALSELY ADVERTISED A $200K HOME TO BE WON, AT $50 A TICKET, WHEN IN FACT THE DUMP IS WORTH LESS THAN HALF THAT - BY RIGHTS ALL TICKET HOLDERS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND OF THEM BY ALL ACCOUNTS, SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF $27 PER TICKET RETURNED TO THEM! |
| Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/12/2005 5:26 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Alcoholics are known to obsess about the same thing over and over…
Hmmm … kind of sounds like Laura and Ark, doesn’t it?
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| Not Stupid
User ID: 8218
7/12/2005 5:31 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I think it´s important for everyone to remember that Anders did not bring this subject up. This thread was instigated by someone (who only joined GLP a couple of days before making this post) who asked what people thought of Cassiopaea.
I think he/she is getting that question answered. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:32 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
No, 458, Andy is telling the truth. You and he are talking about different timelines of the same event. When the “attack” on VB started, Laura and Ark (mostly Ark) egged Andy on, telling him what to say and how to say it. This was especially true on the Matrioshka group, which has a number of ex-C members on it. Ark eventually joined Andy there, and the two of them double-ganged the M group. By that time, Andy was being personally attacked by the M members and was angrily firing back. It got so bad that the moderator of Matrioshka (also an ex-C member) wiped everyone off the list that he knew or suspected was connected to the C group and deleted all the offending archives. The fact is, Andy WAS told what to say; I saw many of the emails with my own eyes. And, no, they were not posted to the group; they were off-list. Laura and Ark eventually started asking him to stop, but they were the ones who started it. They used Andy’s loyalty to them, then cut him loose when they figured he might be a liability. And please, C-Ville, don’t write back and say it didn’t happen. It did. I saw it – again, off-list. Saying that others are lying does not make it so, by the way, no matter how many times you repeat the same ridiculous phrase. Those are the same tactics the government and the military use to keep people from finding out the truth.
Yes - that is exactly the way it happened - something akin to the Stockholm Syndrome...
It is a similar syndrome now in the wolf´s lair central - the CCC cult commune in France.
It is also very telling that Ark and Laura changed the name from the Quantum Future SCHOOL to the Quantum Future GROUP.
Substitute CULT for GROUP - same thing.
I was a minion and a dupe for Laura and Ark back then, much like her loyal duped minions now - thank God I wised up.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 992
7/12/2005 5:34 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Yup, you´re right. Thanks for pointing that out.
Good catch.
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:37 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I think it´s important for everyone to remember that Anders did not bring this subject up. This thread was instigated by someone (who only joined GLP a couple of days before making this post) who asked what people thought of Cassiopaea.
I think he/she is getting that question answered.
Correct.
That is why I started off answering as ANON, as I knew if Laura and Ark and their minions got a whiff of who ANON was, it would get very nasty - as indeed it did.
That is why everyone except myself and Sol Invictus is posting anonymously - fear of repercussions from the Laura and Ark Cult - who have a long track record in character assassination as a means of inflicting their STS worldview.
BTW
I wonder where the original poster has gone???
LOL - I think the intention was to drum up interest in Laura´s latest scribblings and flog them on the net.
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:47 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Yup, you´re right. Thanks for pointing that out.
Good catch.
question_dogma
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Date Joined 6/6/2005
Last Here 6/11/2005 3:18 pm
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You are welcome! :O)))
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 5:53 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I have a copy of a legal document in front of me, prepared by sharon pittman and david carter, attorneys at law, 7419 US highway 19, new port richey FL 34652-1240
YOU CAN SEE IT FOR YOURSELF HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
AND HERE
[link to appraiser.pascogov.com]
it is the sale document, the plot no-09-26-16-0030-11700-0070
it describes the sale by Laura and Ark of the house that was supposed to have been given away in a raffle 5 days after the raffle draw date of 16th january 2003
the document lists Laura´s address in France, and Laura and Ark signed the sale deed via a French Notary - with a French Notary´s official stamp
an August 22nd 2003 sale (7 months, 28 weeks LATE - 28 weeks AFTER the house title deed should have been signed over for ZERO DOLLARS!) of an
alleged $200,000 property (LMAO), as per Laura´s sc, er, raffle blurb
see here [link to web.archive.org]
to generate a heady and greedy $300k
(Anders - and to my interpretation of the relevant NON-PROFIT AND CHARITY laws, totally illegal...)
which went for a measly, MEASLY $95,100!!!!!
LMAO! If it wasn´t such a rip-off!
that is $105,000 LESS than Laura said to all the raffle ticket buyers!
´One lucky ticket holder will win the approximately 3,000 sq. ft, 6-bedroom, 2-bath, 2 living room, double lot (100X 150 feet) home located in the quiet, picturesque, small town of New Port Richey, Florida. The home´s market value is $200,000. You may obtain more than one ticket, however, a limit of 6,000 are available.´
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY - IT WAS ***SOLD*** BY LAURA AND ARK TO THE SWANSON FAMILY!!!
YES, YOU HEARD IT - SOLD FOR $95,100
$104,900 BELOW LAURA´S FICTIONAL MARKET PRICE!
WHEN ACCORDING TO LAURA AND ARK THEY HAVE SAID FOR YEARS THAT THEY ***GAVE*** THE PROPERTY AWAY IN A HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE!!!
SO WHERE IS THE WINNER LAURA AND ARK???
IS IT THE SWANSONS???
DO ´WINNERS´ OF RAFFLES NORMALLY PAY $95,100 FOR THEIR PRIZE???
IF I ENTER A RAFFLE TO WIN A PORSCHE 911, I DO NOT EXPECT TO BE GIVEN A PORSCHE BOXSTER AT HALF THE VALUE!
AND I DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE THE ORGANISERS OF SAID RAFFLE TO NOT GIVE THE PORSCHE 911 AWAY, FREE, TO A RANDOMLY CHOSEN WINNER PER THE TERMS OF THE RAFFLE, THEN TO FIND OUT YEARS LATER THAT THE ORGANISERS SECRETLY SOLD THE PRIZE 911 (REALLY A LOUSY BOXSTER) YEARS BEFORE, SOME 28 WEEKS AFTER THE LEGAL DRAW DATE!!!
WHAT AN ALMIGHTY RIP-OFF!!!!!!! THEY SELL THE HOUSE AND POCKET ALL THE RAFFLE MONEY TOO???
EVEN IF THE HOUSE SC, ER, RAFFLE WAS LEGIT - YOU HAVE FALSELY ADVERTISED A $200K HOME TO BE WON, AT $50 A TICKET, WHEN IN FACT THE DUMP IS WORTH LESS THAN HALF THAT - BY RIGHTS ALL TICKET HOLDERS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THOUSAND OF THEM BY ALL ACCOUNTS, SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF $27 PER TICKET RETURNED TO THEM!
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| tiger
User ID: 18150
7/12/2005 6:42 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
follow the clues
anders opie chandra not stupid
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| Delphine
User ID: 18153
7/12/2005 6:52 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
That is why everyone except myself and Sol Invictus is posting anonymously - fear of repercussions from the Laura and Ark Cult - who have a long track record in character assassination as a means of inflicting their STS worldview.
Did you not read my post, Anders? I didn´t post anonymously, but I´m not afraid of character assasination.
I´ll say it again, very interesting thread. I have
a question for you. Do you see any redeeming aspects, or truth, in Laura´s work or in Laura herself?
And, can you see yourself eventually letting go of the need to revenge yourself and all those you feel have been duped by Laura and Ark?
I think it´s clear from Laura´s example that resentment and vindictiveness only breeds more of the same.
Delphine
(my true middle name) |
| chandra battershell
User ID: 18159
7/12/2005 7:04 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Laura Knight Jadczyk, Ark Jadczyk and the Cassiopaeans are very much like the Bush administration, whom they love to criticize.
I was reminded of this today while reading the paper concerning Karl Rove and his outing of a CIA agent Valerie Plame.
Instead of answering the questions, the Bush administration attacks their critics. They tell us that you are either with them or you are with the terrorists. They call everyone names. They assassinate their character.
Anything but give an honest answer to the questions.
The one thing Laura is right about is that George Bush and his crew are a bunch of psychopaths, just like her and Ark.
Also just like Bush, Laura is a big bully. Like all bullies she is real tough until someone stands up to her and then she runs like the coward that she really is.
Like Bush she controls the spin until the spin goes out of control, like now. Isn’t it fascinating that she and Bush are going down at the same exact time.
How very interesting.
Yes we can expect the whining to begin. The big bully will now try to get sympathy for herself while having her comrades attack her perceived enemies.
She is so psychopathic that she will never understand that it is all of her own making.
She thinks that she is so tough but once challenged she runs and hides. Just like she is doing right now.
She could come on this site right now and clear everything up. She could apologize to those that she has wronged, she could take down the hateful things that she has up on her site, but she won’t. Instead, and you can bet the farm on this, the attacks will actually increase. I wouldn’t want to be around her right now.
And her fake physicist of a husband is a bigger bully and coward than she is, if that is possible. He may even lose his grant money from the Soros Foundation for letting this thing get out of control.
Yes we can expect Character assassination, lies and cover-ups from Laura Knight Jadczyk, Ark Jadczyk and the rest of the Cassiopaea ditto-heads. We can expect everything but the truth.
They are so used to their lies that they no longer know what the truth really means.
The ironic part of all of this is that she is actually making heroes out of those that have opposed her for so long. Suddenly those people, that she has steadily ripped apart for years, are beginning to look like folk heroes, brave souls who fought against an enemy when all the rest ran for cover.
As for the rest of you who think that you can separate the messenger from the message, let this be a lesson for you. The two are one. The messenger and the message are the same.
Just look at Bush. |
| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 7:09 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hi Delphine,
and a lovely name if I may say so :O)))
Did you not read my post, Anders? I didn´t post anonymously, but I´m not afraid of character assasination.
Yes I read everything - my point though Delphine is, they only carry out a sustained bout of character assassination on those they perceive as real or imagined major threats to them - in your case, unless you are KNOWN personally to them, they will not bother.
Even now they are trying to figure out who OPie is, who Chandra is etc etc.
I´ll say it again, very interesting thread. I have
a question for you. Do you see any redeeming aspects, or truth, in Laura´s work or in Laura herself?
I sense the early C transcripts, when Fred Irland was the tuning fork, THE channel, then yes - I think those Cs ´may´ have been legit. Laura lucked into something then tried to cash in on it IMHO.
However since Freddie was duped and cheated out of his original copywright rights to the original C transcripts, I sense a major SWITCHEROO.
No true beings of love and light and knowledge would promote the organic portal pornography that Laura and her dupes do.
The SUFIS call these type of entities - Jinns.
As for Laura - no - I know the real Laura, I saw the real psychopathic pathology, I saw her mask slip, I saw her turn on people and mercilessly attack them on the private Cassiopaea list on yahoo - so did OPie and Chandra and many others.
We are not stupid, and we are not imagining things.
And, can you see yourself eventually letting go of the need to revenge yourself and all those you feel have been duped by Laura and Ark?
Sure.
But there are 9 questions to be answered - not least of which is the raffle issue and the George Soros issue and the connections to intel/hoovering issue and many other issues raising red flags all over the place.
I think it´s clear from Laura´s example that resentment and vindictiveness only breeds more of the same.
I agree.
However - she should if she was truly STO answer the questions truthfully and then we can all move on - if the raffle issue is a non-issue - let her and Ark give a complete and full statement, with audited accounts.
Let´s have the name and contact number of the house winner.
Why was a house advertised as being worth 200k only sold for 95k?
Why was it sold at all?
Why was it not GIVEN FOR FREE to the winner???
Laura needs to walk the talk.
She isn´t doing it, don´t you agree?
All we got here from Laura was her rabid husband attacking me and threatening to post all manner of private emails, and calling me and others on this thread liars.
He and Laura are well suited IMHO.
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 7:17 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
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| tiger
User ID: 18150
7/12/2005 7:21 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
chandra yes
the messenger is the message
this thread is full of triggers
major ones, golden palomino class
triggers
people who escaped from cass group
are reading this thread
with all the buried emotion rising up
again from the bad days
i even got my same cass headache
when reading ark post and the swerdlow link
walls of words
with
lots of triggers
lots of MK
thanks chandra
thanks anders
thanks opie
not stupid
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| Anders (BBM)
User ID: 18130
7/12/2005 7:24 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
You got it, tiger... |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 18209
7/12/2005 10:39 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Greetings to all on this forum,
I´m the real Vincent Bridges, and this is my first time responding to this thread. So, no, I am not posting as Chandra...LOL!
I want to publically thank Andrew, OPie, and the other ex-cass cultists who have taken the time to tell, honestly and simply, their experiences with the cult.
And Andy, I do appreciate the apology...
I´ll be happy to answer any questions any one might have, including Dr Ark, LKJ or the QFGs. Most of what I have to say can be found on or through [link to www.cassiopaeacult.com] but I´ll be glad to discuss anything there with any one here.
Basically, LKJ is a very disturbed individual, as is obvious by reading her autohagiography Amazing Grace, and the channelling scam was a way for a lonely, uneducated, unemployed housewife to put a little fantasy and glamour into her life. The original transcripts are fascinating as a look into the development of an obsession, and the disfunctional side of the paranormal. On that score, the Cassiopaean experiment makes compelling study. The arrival of Dr. Ark, a very strange person with a truly bizarre background, including support by the George Soros foundation, turned a simple experiment in fantasy land into a viable doomsday cult.
I was there when the cult started. I have talked at length to Fred Irland, Lewis Martin, her ex-husband, her two eldest daughters, her mother and numerous friends from various eras. And I have talked, at length, with Peter French, the guy wrote the St. Pete Times artcle. I read the unedited transcripts and I listened to the group try to con a Finnish business man out of millions of dollars. I explained to them how self-publishing works, thereby undercutting myself as a publisher, and like Andy, I was so blinded by the BS that I even helped them avoid being sued by a woman whom they had horribly wronged by putting photos of her on the website as proof of reptilian rape. I didn´t catch on until it was proven to me that they were intent on destroying me, my business and my reputation.
Such is the power of belief.
I truly have compassion for the duped minions of Cass Cult, I was one of them as well, but it MUST be made clear that the LKJ´s little cult is very dangerous.
Thanks for having this discussion,
VB |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 992
7/12/2005 11:07 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Just in time for the show.
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| chandra battershell
User ID: 18223
7/12/2005 11:19 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Invictus, and everyone
I told you three times that I was not VB. I hope you believe me now. |
| StormBear
User ID: 9894
7/12/2005 11:21 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Just like old times.
I was thrown off the Cass List way back in the day just for being acquainted with Vincent Bridges. Somehow through all the flame wars, I became Vincent´s CIA handler.
You can see my Cass satire sites at the links below...
[link to www.stormbear.com]
[link to www.stormbear.com]
These sites used to be at PayMeNow.net, but I sold the domain name to a credit card processing company for a sweet load of dough. To date, I am the only NON cult member ever to make a dollar off of Cassiopaea. I guess I owe Vincent dinner!
Anyway, things actually got worse. As a therapeutic gesture to the Ex-Cass Cult commuity, I made up a t-shirt design so we could all use humor to get through the tough times.
You can still get one at...
[link to www.cafepress.com]
Do a Google for "unedited cassiopaea transcripts" and you will probably find a few copies.
Here is a freebie link for you folks in case you do not trust some of the downloads...
[link to www.cassiopaeacult.com]
I would be interested in joining the Ex Cass List, email the details to my box - webmonkey@stormbear.com if you think it would be ok.
One last note, the reference to "sperm-gurgling root gobbler" really made my night.
Stormy |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18186
7/12/2005 11:33 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Should have looked in on this a bit earlier, but fortunate to see VB show up at l(e)ast.
OPie, you are an excellent writer! |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 18209
7/12/2005 11:44 PM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Glad to be here... I´d have shown up sooner but I didn´t know there was a party...
Hi there Stormy, thanks for putting your two cents worth in... There´s a dude who knows how to make lemonade out of life´s lemons...LOL!
As I said, I´m open for any questions...
VB |
| chandra battershell
User ID: 18238
7/13/2005 12:15 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hey Stormbear
We rally don’t need you here self congratulating and trying to sell your products and praising viscous and destructive language. We are discussing real issues! So please go away unless you have something to add. |
| Vincent Bridges
User ID: 18209
7/13/2005 12:22 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
I would really like to see them answer these questions. Seems reasonable to me... While we wait, let me give you my answers:
1) What is the name of the person who won the House Raffle? Please list a contact address or phone number.
V: Such a person doen´t exist. By law in Florida, they must publically posted, in the local paper of record and at the court house, the winners of any legal charity raffle. No such thing was ever done, making the raffle illegal, even if all the other procedures were honest.
2) Why hasn´t that person laid claim to your house?
V: They don´t exist...
3) Why did you praise Weidner and Bridges work on Fulcanelli, then trash them by calling them psychopaths and then plagiarize their work?
V: LKJ has constantly used ideas, concepts even whole subjects from my work going all the way back to 1999. She picked up on Fulcanelli because my work had made it somewhat comprehensible to her, and she needed that level of old world cred to pull off her Ancient History scam.
4) Why did yourself in the future lie to yourself in the past and say that you were an alien from cassiopaea when you were really just yourself in the future?
V: Psychopathology... change the lie when caught in it.
5) How do you reconcile the fact that you channelled aliens from cassiopaea with Fred Ireland, but later discovered that he also was a psychopath.
V: Fred, who walked away from the mess in 2000, and is still pissed at me for pulling back in, is perhaps the only sane person in LKJ´s recent past. He left because it dawned on him that LKJ was flat out crazy, as indeed she is... When I got him involved again, Ark and Laura threatened, physically, not only him, his sister, but also his invalid mother by stalking them, showing up late at night and parking in their driveway for hours. Laura is known to carry a gun, she showed to me, and her attempted murder charge is much more complex than she allows. Her ex husband is still afraid of her...
6) If you are not really channelling aliens from Cassiopaea but are actually channelling yourself in the future, how come you yourself in the future didn´t warn you yourself in the past that your channelling partner, Fred Ireland, was a psychopath?
V: Yep...
7) Why didn´t you yourself in the future warn you that Bridges was a psychopath?
V: Yep...
8) Why did you change the transcripts of the cassiopaean sessions?
V: That I think is obvious if you read them. As Stormy said, they are still floating around out in cyber-space if you look...
9) Do you really believe that your former husband is a robot?
V: Oh indeed she did, and worse... Lewis, a very nice, kind redneck fellow, told me the entire yarn, and it is a doozy... She did indeed extort him out of the house that was raffled and sold by threatening him with child abuse. LKJ herself is well known to the Pasco County and NPR city cops for her rages, obsessions, such as spies in the newspaper box, and her abuse on her kids. Her eldest daughter even called Social Services, which led to her excommunication from the family. Remember, she has five children by at least four different fathers. Before Lewis, she lived off wellfare and insurance scams... This woman even stole her mother´s lottery ticket, and brags about it print in Amazing Grace...
I just can´t imagine anyone taking anything she says, ouiji board or not, seriously...
VB |
| tiger
User ID: 18243
7/13/2005 12:54 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
vincent had a good turn of phrase
on the autohagiography, amazing grace
was pretty revealing, but i dont think
anyone read it
i could use a sense of humor and a tshirt
right about now
once you get through the darkest parts
of this long strange road
a bit of satire is a relief
 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8226
7/13/2005 12:57 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
Hi,
I´ve just spend a few hours reading a lot of your website, Vincent, and before this thread started I believed everything Laura and Ark had said about you. Now of course I don´t anymore. I´m sorry that I ever did.
I used to think you were just a skeptic debunker calling anyone who channels a cultist. So I thought Laura was just fighting back to save being falsely charged as leading a cult. I thought I had the full truth by having Laura´s version of what had happened between you two, fully believing everything that she said about you. I should have tried to find out your side of the story right away and investigated it more on my own. Why didn´t I? I don´t know. It´s something I want to remember in the future, however, that one should always try to learn the other side of the story before committing oneself to a particular side. As loyal as one feels to one side, and as comfortable and logical as that version sounds, it is necessary to hear the other side of the story also, even though one may not want to. And why wouldn´t I want to? I guess it was because I didn´t want to have to think through it all for myself. I just enjoyed being spoon fed one lively and entertaining version of events that was like a soap opera unfolding every day. I had the free entertainment and at the expense of the other party, didn´t take the time to find out what might be really going on. What a stupid shit I was. But a lesson learned, that´s for sure. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 18243
7/13/2005 1:55 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
bump to the top for 893
we all had to learn
not stupid |
| Anders
User ID: 18253
7/13/2005 2:16 AM | | Re: Ok, enough about Nancy and the Zetas. What do you all know about Laura and the Cassiopaeans? | Quote |
So glad to see Vincent and Stormy show up - it sorta takes the pressure off me, in a way.
Vincent - thanks for accepting my apology, it made my day!
I note what you say about having to publicly post the winner´s name and address, and certainly, in almost all competitions, the small print always says that the winner´s name can be obtained by sending an SAE to the organisers.
Does anyone know if the FBI and/or the FL police or perhaps the Charity or Gaming Commissions or any other agency is taking active measures to prosecute or go after these fine folks?
I would urge anyone reading this who were duped into buying these fraudulent raffle tickets to report this scam to the authorities.
Maybe it´s time for one of the CCC Cultists to break ranks, wise up, and confont their overlords...
However, having been caught up deep in Laura´s madness, to me eternal shame, I can see how difficult that will be for them...
Sigh...
What a tangled web we weave... |
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