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The cheese pancakes are made from a pound of cheese, a dozen eggs, a bit of flour and baking powder, fried in 1" of lard.

2-3 of these pancakes will keep your motor running for a solid 7-8 hours. I top mine with cream cheese and a teaspoon of marmalade.
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Wrong thread dude, you're eating WAY to many carbs for this diet.
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The cheese pancakes are made from a pound of cheese, a dozen eggs, a bit of flour and baking powder, fried in 1" of lard.

2-3 of these pancakes will keep your motor running for a solid 7-8 hours. I top mine with cream cheese and a teaspoon of marmalade.
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Wrong thread dude, you're eating WAY to many carbs for this diet.
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One cheese pancake has 2grams carbs.
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hi scorpion...i've been in ketosis about two weeks and noticed that when I sweat it smalls like ammonia.

my carbs are down to about 5-10 per day. is that too low?

any concern from the ammonia smell??
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also eating a fair amount of sesame oil. any issues with this oil? (uncooked)
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Wonder why a doctor has not advocated this diet? This thread is in all conspiracy websites...everywhere.

Wonder why? A "decidedly one" person decides against the many health professionals.... that eating high fat is good for you?!

Do your own research. Be reasonable.
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Wonder why a doctor has not advocated this diet? This thread is in all conspiracy websites...everywhere.

Wonder why? A "decidedly one" person decides against the many health professionals.... that eating high fat is good for you?!

Do your own research. Be reasonable.
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yeah...medical folks are really good at what they do!

look at their success rates at alomst anything other than setting broken bones.

people know the MD's are tools of the pharma industry...and that pharms is only in it for the $$...like bankers who got a little too greedy

get a clue, moran
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Ive been on the diet for 10 days. Over the last 3-4 days Ive gotten a runny nose and am sneezing a lot. Is this connected in any way to the diet? Someone told me that its my body getting rid of toxins and also could be fat melting.
For 10 days my clothes have gotten loose - I havent weighed myself as I dont want what I see on the scale to demotivate me. Id rather go by how I fit into the clothes I wear.
While Im happy with my progress, Im concerned about the sneezing...
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Wonder why a doctor has not advocated this diet? This thread is in all conspiracy websites...everywhere.

Wonder why? A "decidedly one" person decides against the many health professionals.... that eating high fat is good for you?!

Do your own research. Be reasonable.
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This article [link to www.lewrockwell.com] is by a cardiac surgeon and head of cardiac surgery at Washington University. 17 pages tracing the origins of the "lipid hypothesis", and his conversion from it to the high fat diet. He even eats two tablespoons of coconut oil to start off his day.
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I have been on essentially a zero carb diet for the last 4 weeks (in a few days) after reading Scorpions thread.

The only modification is that I am getting the saturated fats from sources other than animal meat, as I was an ovo lacto vegetarian before starting...

I feel like I am slowly emerging from a mental fog...not there yet, but occasional moments of clarity. My daily eating habits have completely changed and I think this is the first time in my life that I eat when I am truly hungry...not for pleasure or from boredom. It is a liberating experience!

I think that the carb addiction ended in earnest after about 2 weeks. I don't crave them anymore at all.

I started the first week with a 5 day complete fast...nothing but water. I believe that helped clear out my system and prepare me for a new way of eating. My current diet consists of sprouts, eggs, tuna/fish, shrimp, macadamia/peanuts/pine nuts/almonds or other high fat nuts. Lots of cream and cheese at every meal. It is a strange experience to shop for foods based on the highest fat content. I add lots of oil to the mix, avoiding the seed oils, except sesame. I am in the process of adding more high saturated oils to the diet as well.

I am going to make this diet a long term thing. Seriously, I really can't imagine eating how I did my entire life with lots of carbs..they dont even appeal to me anymore. I didn't weigh myself before or along the way, but I would say at the outset I was probably 5-10 pounds over my ideal weight. I can definitely feel a difference since starting and have probably lost a few pounds of body FAT. Maybe more. I am also starting to feel more energy so I will be adding some exercise to the routine when that picks up a little more.

I will check in after another 4 weeks and report my progress.

A sincere thank you to scorpion and the posters who have contributed their experiences
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Y'know by nature I already kind of eat this diet, without it being a diet, it's just what I prefer. Except I used to use margarine and stuff but I guess I could switch to butter, it tastes better anyway.

The only meats I really like are chicken and beef mince though. I'm about 5"4 and weigh 60 kgs (female) although my ideal weight is 55 kg. I have a small frame, while not obese I'd prefer to drop a few kgs. No amount of healthy eating and exercise has ever really worked though, it's like my body refuses to shed kgs.

I don't smoke, drink or do drugs. I'm really stumped as to what the problem is.
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I have been on essentially a zero carb diet for the last 4 weeks (in a few days) after reading Scorpions thread.

The only modification is that I am getting the saturated fats from sources other than animal meat, as I was an ovo lacto vegetarian before starting...

I feel like I am slowly emerging from a mental fog...not there yet, but occasional moments of clarity. My daily eating habits have completely changed and I think this is the first time in my life that I eat when I am truly hungry...not for pleasure or from boredom. It is a liberating experience!

I think that the carb addiction ended in earnest after about 2 weeks. I don't crave them anymore at all.

I started the first week with a 5 day complete fast...nothing but water. I believe that helped clear out my system and prepare me for a new way of eating. My current diet consists of sprouts, eggs, tuna/fish, shrimp, macadamia/peanuts/pine nuts/almonds or other high fat nuts. Lots of cream and cheese at every meal. It is a strange experience to shop for foods based on the highest fat content. I add lots of oil to the mix, avoiding the seed oils, except sesame. I am in the process of adding more high saturated oils to the diet as well.

I am going to make this diet a long term thing. Seriously, I really can't imagine eating how I did my entire life with lots of carbs..they dont even appeal to me anymore. I didn't weigh myself before or along the way, but I would say at the outset I was probably 5-10 pounds over my ideal weight. I can definitely feel a difference since starting and have probably lost a few pounds of body FAT. Maybe more. I am also starting to feel more energy so I will be adding some exercise to the routine when that picks up a little more.

I will check in after another 4 weeks and report my progress.

A sincere thank you to scorpion and the posters who have contributed their experiences
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Amazing isn't it?

I like your comment about hunting for fat in the grocery store. My food budget has dropped significantly. It just makes so much sense to go for the energy dense foods.
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You are correct about energy density foods.

I estimate my food intake cost has probably dropped in half...or more. And the foods I am eating are all organic and high quality.

I have been eating 4-6 eggs per day, soft boiled, and the most expensive, highest quality eggs are about $4 a dozen...and they taste delicious!

About the same price as a bag of chips or a latte!

Sprouts are $2 a bag, and they last 2 days.

A can of good quality tuna is $1.50 and I'm not hungry for hours. 1 quart of sesame oil $13.00 and it lasts a month. I eat three times a day and don't even THINK about food until 4-5 hours later...and even then it isn't a ravenous appetite,

Butter...high quality irish butter is under $3 and lasts a week. Macadamia nuts are a bit more pricy but I mix with peanuts and pine nuts. And they taste great.

I am really hopeful the mental clarity and energy will continue to increase. Monday is the end of the 4th week. I think after three months I will know more.

This is one of the breakthrough threads on glp, along with the Adonis thread on oil of oregano and the iodine thread.

Just truly amazing! I am trying to spread the word, but many people think I am nuts when I talk about MORE saturated fats! The indoctrination of the American public is a national tragedy.
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You are correct about energy density foods.

I estimate my food intake cost has probably dropped in half...or more. And the foods I am eating are all organic and high quality.

I have been eating 4-6 eggs per day, soft boiled, and the most expensive, highest quality eggs are about $4 a dozen...and they taste delicious!

About the same price as a bag of chips or a latte!

Sprouts are $2 a bag, and they last 2 days.

A can of good quality tuna is $1.50 and I'm not hungry for hours. 1 quart of sesame oil $13.00 and it lasts a month. I eat three times a day and don't even THINK about food until 4-5 hours later...and even then it isn't a ravenous appetite,

Butter...high quality irish butter is under $3 and lasts a week. Macadamia nuts are a bit more pricy but I mix with peanuts and pine nuts. And they taste great.

I am really hopeful the mental clarity and energy will continue to increase. Monday is the end of the 4th week. I think after three months I will know more.

This is one of the breakthrough threads on glp, along with the Adonis thread on oil of oregano and the iodine thread.

Just truly amazing! I am trying to spread the word, but many people think I am nuts when I talk about MORE saturated fats! The indoctrination of the American public is a national tragedy.
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Here here,

I have been on a cyclical ketogenic diet now for just over 5 weeks. however I haven't been going in my opinion to the extreme in either direction however i have made some large changes. For those interested in what i was like and for what I an becomming please read on-
(prior to ehange)as of january 2011
age: 33
height: 178cm weight 87kg

I have cut and pasted a few of my posts from the inositol thread because I don't have the time at the moment to type out the whole lot but here goes-
Attitude and Motivation: poor/ clinical depression but never took pills ( have been like this since early 20's)
Smoker=yes, coffee= plenty, alays tired and sad - have for the most part of these years remained active ( lots of surfing) and generally doing things outside and was pround of my "healthy diet' lots of bread rice pastas - skin off chicken - yada yada ( food pyramid)-
dropped to 80 kg by eating less and less and smoking more and more from jan to april to 80-83 and maintained it via the same method- but no more weight would drop and I looked saggy and toneless although not " overweight looking"


Hi OP, no anxiety but a lot of stress, depression (mainly feeling tired all the time), brain fog and a real loss of interest for doing anything of the things that I used to love doing.
Have been on the inositol for about two weeks now. I started the gym 5 days ago and have gone every day except wednesday but went twice on thursday. I am feeling better but very sore.

I don't know if I'm better because of the inositol or because i forced myself to the gym. The very fact that I even signed up and actually went is a massive step for me and I am very proud of myself.

Maybe the inositol helped me with the mindset to go to the gym. I gave myself an untimatum. Have a real good go for a month and if I'm not any better I will hand myself in to the GP and take whatever they give me. I have been on a few occasions before and its always depression within 5minutes of a consultation and I just don't agree with that. I have been like this for well over 10 years but in peaks and troughs but always tired.

I always thought I could treat myself but just couldn't muster the motivation..and no its not being lazy...it more than that...just cant bloody do it. Since the inositol I have strung together a solid week at the gym so I guess I have to give credit to it, but what I'm trying to say is that before the gym I actually think I felt the same however I did notice it easier to get up in the morning, but in saying that I aslo flaked in very early in the evening on most nights and had a good 8-9hrs sleep.

All in all since taking inositol, combined with going to the gym i feel at least 50% better although thats kind of difficult to judge because its been so long that I have felt brand new that I have probably forgotten. If things keep improving like they have been it will truly be amazing.

Whether inositol gave a placebo effect or a real psysiological or psychological response, the fact that I went to the gym was not likely due to motivation alone since I would have done that already. In fact I did in the past but only mustered up the motivation for a couple of visits. Early days yet but very promissing.

In a short conclusion, after a lengthy post. Inositol is worth try. i also cut down coffee to a max of 2 per day, sometime 1. I have lost slightly less than 2gk and I have managed to string together a solid week at the gym. Goodluck to anybody wishing to try Inositol and thankyou OP.


Well its been well over a month now and I have given myself some me more time because the results that I have seen and felt are very promising. If my condition continues to improve I will have my life back. My motivation has improved and I awake alot easier. Coffee is down to maximum 2 per day but some days i don't have any but most days I have only 1 in the morning. I still have times of feeling down and tired for no reason but the glimpses of feeling great which happened earlier on and starting to string together and I feel good more often than not now. I have also changed my nutrition to what I'm loosely describing as cyclical ketogenic but actually not going to crazy on the carb up days and not going to crazy or low on the low carb days. I have dropped 4 kilograms in 5 weeks and I am getting comments like OMG look at you and " oh the dark under your eyes is a lot less now, whites of eye are clearer and so on- muscles are looking great too and I now have a four pack. Things appear to be snowballing in the right direction for a change and I hope it continues. i stopped taking Inositol a couple of weeks ago- thought i would give it a rest and rely on inositol intake from nutrition instead, my coffee consumption is way down so I assume inositol uptake should have improved. I have also started drinking nettle tea, only a couple of cups per day...it feels good. PS I highly recommend the cyclical ketogenic diet- hurts at the beginning but now i now longer feel like I'm starving and the foods that I used to love and crave are no longer dictating my eating habits- ketostix have read only mild except for one time when I did a 25km bike ride- I was quite deep into ketosis...i fixed it up with some carbs...im trying not go go too stupid with anything and try to get these adrenals of mine functioning properly again....no more flouride either.
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11 months today following this. Never going back to the old way. Lose weight. Feel great. Saving money and time on food.

Definitely a breakthrough thread for a lot of people.
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11 months today following this. Never going back to the old way. Lose weight. Feel great. Saving money and time on food.

Definitely a breakthrough thread for a lot of people.
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I just finished the first month.

Can you give an estimate of when you started to feel the biggest changes, and what they were? For example, how did you feel after one month, after two months, etc. When were the biggest changes.

I am happy overall and also will not go back to eating carbs the rest of my life. I was hoping for a bigger energy boost and mental clarity, but it may be too soon.
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11 months today following this. Never going back to the old way. Lose weight. Feel great. Saving money and time on food.

Definitely a breakthrough thread for a lot of people.
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I just finished the first month.

Can you give an estimate of when you started to feel the biggest changes, and what they were? For example, how did you feel after one month, after two months, etc. When were the biggest changes.

I am happy overall and also will not go back to eating carbs the rest of my life. I was hoping for a bigger energy boost and mental clarity, but it may be too soon.
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First thing I noticed within literally days was that my hands and feet were warmer when I was working outdoors in the cold. Don't know if it was just from having more/better calories to burn, or if circulation was improved.

Second thing I noticed almost right away, was that I was sleeping a full hour more per night. This I think came from my stomach being much calmer from not processing all the carby foods; and from my evening meal going from being the largest to the smallest meal of my day.

Also noticed right away that instead of being hungry 4-5 hours after a heavy carb breakfast, I did not get hungry for 6-7 hours after the bacon/egg/cheese/pepper/onions fry-up that has been my mainstay breakfast since day one.

I am not sure what people mean by "mental fog", but I have noticed lately that my short term memory seems to be stronger. A while back, someone gave me complex driving directions verbally, and I remembered every step perfectly, driving though a strange part of town, during normal, busy day-time traffic. I feel like that is an improvement in memory function, but have no real objective proof. Just noticed it, is all.

Other very rapid improvements: dry skin, dandruff, and rosacea all went away within a month.

Longer term, I have gone down in weight, fluctuating about 14-17lbs. lighter than when I started. Pinchable fat around mid-section gradually going away. Also, all my various achy spots seem far less prone to call attention to themselves.

After a couple months, I noticed that I was no longer content to lounge around on the couch in the evening. I felt like doing something. That was a great change for me, feeling energetic in the evening, in spite of having worked a full day.

I am sure it varies from person to person, depending on how radical the change is. In retrospect, this has been radical for me, as I was eating huge amounts of carbs in every imaginable combination.
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If you feel hungry - then eat.


quote from op's post !
that is very typical of people having diabetes , the don't transport nutrients to the cells as much as they should or as any none diabetic would
this translates tothe nervous system as "not being full" therefore , ... hungry !
Try to look up diabetic specific diets and be sure to know weither you suffer from diabetes type one or two, if you only developed symptoms at a later (teenage or later) years and you are overweight by bmi standars, its very likely you have diabetes type two , wich don't actually need insuline injections ! that means its more curable by diet and lifestyle than diabetes type 1


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When I was 21, I drank some very good beer...
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This is best thread. Lets get it going again. I am in charge of my family Thanksgiving meal. I am cooking all the good meats. The rest of the family, they are bring the bad stuff.
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Again thanks for this.

I've been trying to quit smoking. I've been told that eating pumpkin seeds also helps. What do you think? and would eating it be detrimental to my weight loss progress?

Kind regards
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Well this Thanksgiving was almost embarrassing for me due to so much stir over my weight and diet. People no longer scoff at me or roll their eyes. In fact they now hound me for a website and more information on my diet.

Today I weighed myself at 116 pounds. This seemed pretty low considering the pumpkin cheesecake and other holiday things I had allowed myself the week before. It is nice because I can now celebrate with family and eat a dessert or a small taste of everything I want on the thanksgiving buffet, but there is no need or desire to gorge myself with 2 rolls, a cup of turkey dressing and 3 helpings of mashed potatoes.

I never remember leaving a thanksgiving meal feeling so well as I did this year. When everyone else was complaining of how full they were, I just smiled because I had no indigestion at all.

I have been writing down my weight and measurements sporadically over the last year. It was interesting this morning to look at where I have come from. A year ago I weighed in at 144 pounds and hips that were 5.5 inches larger than today.

I don't have to measure food or count carbs much any more. It has become intuitive. If I begin to feel crabby, or achey, I just add more fat, get carbs in check, and return to cooking at home and taking my lunch to work.

Every day I have two eggs fried in butter with a dollop of cream cheese, and two pieces of uncured bacon. For lunch I eat chicken ceasar salad without croutons or tuna salad in a lettuce wrap. Dinner is a fist sized serving of meat, with a beautiful salad and creamy dressing of some sort, and a vegetable that is creamed or sauteed in butter, bacon grease or a good oil. I also have a couple small squares of dark chocolate a day, a coffee or two, lots of water, and often a malbec or merlot to end the day. Snacks are rarely needed, but if I must snack, I turn to pork rinds, mixed nuts, olives, or a wedge of cheese.

Honestly, I eat such delicious food! I love to stand at the grocery check out line and admire the beautiful and simple foods in my cart. Then I compare my modest cart to the overflowing carts of those before and behind me. Their carts make me literally sick to behold with all the boxes of sugary cereals, processed noodle mixes, chips, colas and other highly refined quickie meals and snacks.

Today when I looked back at the year long record of measurements and weights I had kept, I could see where I had stalled for a long time about three or four months into the diet. The thing that helped at that time was Scorpion's recommendation of trying the fat fast and eliminating nuts and other yeast feeding foods. That really seemed to get me back on a slow and steady pace that got me to my goal and way past it.

The best thing about this type of eating is that it is for life, so there is no big rush to get there fast and no big deal if I get on a binge for a couple days and have to count carbs and fats carefully again till I get back into ketosis and feeling well again.

My life is changed and I feel happy and in control. I didn't know how much control my lousy diet had on my life before this. I love the fact that I can keep corn chips and crackers in my pantry for the rest of the family and the snacks don't even call to me at all. That may be why I feel more alert and less brain fogged because I am not hearing snack foods calling to me all day. :)

Today I get hungry for things like kale and sausages, heavy cream, and buttery cheeses. But I don't woof them down in fistfuls while standing at the refrigerator door like a crazy women!(things I used to do before this diet)

I don't know if anyone else looks this thread up regularly like I do just when they need encouraged, but if so, I hope they find it. If I could do this, I know any one can!
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Well this Thanksgiving was almost embarrassing for me due to so much stir over my weight and diet. People no longer scoff at me or roll their eyes. In fact they now hound me for a website and more information on my diet.

Today I weighed myself at 116 pounds. This seemed pretty low considering the pumpkin cheesecake and other holiday things I had allowed myself the week before. It is nice because I can now celebrate with family and eat a dessert or a small taste of everything I want on the thanksgiving buffet, but there is no need or desire to gorge myself with 2 rolls, a cup of turkey dressing and 3 helpings of mashed potatoes.

I never remember leaving a thanksgiving meal feeling so well as I did this year. When everyone else was complaining of how full they were, I just smiled because I had no indigestion at all.

I have been writing down my weight and measurements sporadically over the last year. It was interesting this morning to look at where I have come from. A year ago I weighed in at 144 pounds and hips that were 5.5 inches larger than today.

I don't have to measure food or count carbs much any more. It has become intuitive. If I begin to feel crabby, or achey, I just add more fat, get carbs in check, and return to cooking at home and taking my lunch to work.

Every day I have two eggs fried in butter with a dollop of cream cheese, and two pieces of uncured bacon. For lunch I eat chicken ceasar salad without croutons or tuna salad in a lettuce wrap. Dinner is a fist sized serving of meat, with a beautiful salad and creamy dressing of some sort, and a vegetable that is creamed or sauteed in butter, bacon grease or a good oil. I also have a couple small squares of dark chocolate a day, a coffee or two, lots of water, and often a malbec or merlot to end the day. Snacks are rarely needed, but if I must snack, I turn to pork rinds, mixed nuts, olives, or a wedge of cheese.

Honestly, I eat such delicious food! I love to stand at the grocery check out line and admire the beautiful and simple foods in my cart. Then I compare my modest cart to the overflowing carts of those before and behind me. Their carts make me literally sick to behold with all the boxes of sugary cereals, processed noodle mixes, chips, colas and other highly refined quickie meals and snacks.

Today when I looked back at the year long record of measurements and weights I had kept, I could see where I had stalled for a long time about three or four months into the diet. The thing that helped at that time was Scorpion's recommendation of trying the fat fast and eliminating nuts and other yeast feeding foods. That really seemed to get me back on a slow and steady pace that got me to my goal and way past it.

The best thing about this type of eating is that it is for life, so there is no big rush to get there fast and no big deal if I get on a binge for a couple days and have to count carbs and fats carefully again till I get back into ketosis and feeling well again.

My life is changed and I feel happy and in control. I didn't know how much control my lousy diet had on my life before this. I love the fact that I can keep corn chips and crackers in my pantry for the rest of the family and the snacks don't even call to me at all. That may be why I feel more alert and less brain fogged because I am not hearing snack foods calling to me all day. :)

Today I get hungry for things like kale and sausages, heavy cream, and buttery cheeses. But I don't woof them down in fistfuls while standing at the refrigerator door like a crazy women!(things I used to do before this diet)

I don't know if anyone else looks this thread up regularly like I do just when they need encouraged, but if so, I hope they find it. If I could do this, I know any one can!
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What a fantastic story. Thank you for sharing with us. It is so good to see people transforming their lives in such a simple way. It is a real pleasure to read stories like this and to have a played a part in giving something back for all the help others gave me along the way.

Well done again. People do hop in on this thread and stories like this are an inspiration.
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I put on 10lbs over Thanksgiving weekend (as in eating leftovers with lots of stuffing and pumpkin pie for days after lol) I have this diet down to a science though, lost most of it already... :) I'm able to eat whatever I want socially, but can just go into a fat fast and take most of it off almost as quick as it goes on. I think if everyone ate like this, there would be little to no fat people.
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diets...unreal...it's about permanent sustainable lifestyle changes, not yo-yoing and using ketosis to "reverse" weight gain attained through eating crap.
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diets...unreal...it's about permanent sustainable lifestyle changes, not yo-yoing and using ketosis to "reverse" weight gain attained through eating crap.
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lol what do you think this is?

It's not a diet. It's a permanent lifestyle change.

Over 3 years now sounds pretty permanent to me!

I eat meat, fish, dairy, eggs, nuts and very small amounts of vegetables - and that is what I have eaten for the last 3 years!

And for the first time in my life, I never gain any weight! Is that sustainable enough?

I used to eat a so called Low-fat, healthy diet and could gain weight eating 1,000-1,500 calories a day.

Now I eat 3,000 or more and unless I add alcohol into the mix I never gain weight! And if I fancy some alcohol then I just go for it and compensate for the next 2-3 days by sticking to about 1,500 calories of mainly saturated fat. Any weight gain from the alcohol binge quickly disappears.

Eating "healthy" - as advised by the so called experts - I weighed in at 235 pounds. Now I can effortlessly maintain myself between 160 and 170. Sustainable? I will say!

What's not sustainable is eating carbs when your body cannot process those carbs, but just stores them. And it doesn't matter whether it's so called "bad carbs" or "good carbs", as they try to label them. Your body just converts all carbs to glucose and if it cannot use them for energy at that precise moment in time then it converts to BODY FAT! Simple!! Some carbs like fructose, found in all your "healthy" fruit juices (or even fruit), actually accelerate the process of fat accumulation ...

Permanent calorie restriction, which is what anyone who is even mildly insulin resistant, would have to be on is what is unsustainable. Which is why we have an obesity academic, made to order by those who profit from it!

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After 14 months on this eating plan I finally got the nerve up to go for a physical, my first one since 04. Because there is a lot of heart disease in my family I was very nervous for what the doctor might find. I warned my doc up front that I had lost a lot of weight by eating low carb and high fat, essentially turning the food pyramid upside down. The doctor seemed only slightly amused.

Anyhow, the good news is that this plan does what it says it will do. My blood pressure was fine despite my nerves. My cholesterol was a bit high, but the doctor said it was because my good cholesterol was so high. My good cholesterol was 97 and my total cholesterol was 225. My triglycerides were extremely low at 37. My heart rate was also on the low side.

I think, for a post menopausal woman with a fair bit of stress and a terrible family history of heart disease, these findings are pretty darn good. Especially since I eat bacon and eggs every day and loads of butter and lard! I am super pleased and so thankful for stumbling upon this thread.

This week I watched "The Big Fat Fiasco" on you tube. It was very interesting. Actually it should be criminal the way they have vilified dietary fat without a shred of good scientific evidence to support this assault. I was shocked to realize that the food pyramid everyone thinks is so vital to good health was created by the USDA. Duh! Ya think they might want to sell us all some more grains?

I also discovered walnut oil this week! Oh yum! Added it to brussell sprouts sauteed with bacon, walnuts, and some red peppers. The results were gorgeous and so tasty. I never ever feel cheated or as if I am missing anything in my diet. I feel pretty darn spoiled most days slurping up heavy cream sauces and big ole blue cheese burgers!

Imagine the staggering amount of money this diet information could cost the health care industry if it really got widely publicized.
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After 14 months on this eating plan I finally got the nerve up to go for a physical, my first one since 04. Because there is a lot of heart disease in my family I was very nervous for what the doctor might find. I warned my doc up front that I had lost a lot of weight by eating low carb and high fat, essentially turning the food pyramid upside down. The doctor seemed only slightly amused.

Anyhow, the good news is that this plan does what it says it will do. My blood pressure was fine despite my nerves. My cholesterol was a bit high, but the doctor said it was because my good cholesterol was so high. My good cholesterol was 97 and my total cholesterol was 225. My triglycerides were extremely low at 37. My heart rate was also on the low side.

I think, for a post menopausal woman with a fair bit of stress and a terrible family history of heart disease, these findings are pretty darn good. Especially since I eat bacon and eggs every day and loads of butter and lard! I am super pleased and so thankful for stumbling upon this thread.

This week I watched "The Big Fat Fiasco" on you tube. It was very interesting. Actually it should be criminal the way they have vilified dietary fat without a shred of good scientific evidence to support this assault. I was shocked to realize that the food pyramid everyone thinks is so vital to good health was created by the USDA. Duh! Ya think they might want to sell us all some more grains?

I also discovered walnut oil this week! Oh yum! Added it to brussell sprouts sauteed with bacon, walnuts, and some red peppers. The results were gorgeous and so tasty. I never ever feel cheated or as if I am missing anything in my diet. I feel pretty darn spoiled most days slurping up heavy cream sauces and big ole blue cheese burgers!

Imagine the staggering amount of money this diet information could cost the health care industry if it really got widely publicized.
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That's fantastic - thanks for sharing :) Congratulations on the new healthy you.

Interesting that your numbers are close to what most people speak to are. The triglycerides are excellent and much in line with most people I know on this way of eating (25-45 seems to be about average).

But it's your HDL/LDL ratio that is amazing. Here is an article discussing it.

[link to cholesterol.emedtv.com]

Ideal ratio is 0.4, anything above is excellent, but on your numbers I make yours 0.76 which is unbelievably good. Guess your chances of a heart attack are miniscule with those numbers.

Yes, imagine what this diet could cost Big Pharma and the health care profession. Little wonder they tell everyone it's unhealthy - yeah, it is, FOR THEIR PROFITS!!
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Very good article (and site) here that explodes all those myths about low carb diets, especially ketogenic ones:

[link to www.lowcarbforhealth.com]

Should help all of you maintain the resolve through the Xmas season.

Have a great Christmas everyone who has been following this thread.
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