If you want to be thin and stay thin (and avoid Metabolic Syndrome), then you have to eat high fat

And as if we needed any more reasons for this way of eating, here is another one:

A low-carb diet may help clear up acne
[link to timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

Well there you have it. One look at the complexion of a low carb person shows you how effective this way is for the skin. The best fat for our skin complexion is saturated, moisturises and nourishes the skin :) Esp. like coconut oil, inside and out lol

well, been on this diet 4 days now and am gaining a pound per day! I have no gallbladder but am not having digestive issues so far.

Could it be the splenda or do I give it more time?

The no sugar cravings is a real plus.

Sorry if this has been addressed a 100 times, the thread is way to big to try to find the answer.

Thanks in advance for the answer.

Yep, the lack of gallbladder is a common theme in failing to lose weight, or even gaining some. My Mum is the only person I know who couldn't lose weight on this way of eating because she has no gall bladder and I have seen a lot of similar comments now online since I became aware of this issue.

Mind you, given that she is insulin resistant, she cannot now lose weight on any diet. It has become a steady creep, creep, creep since her operation.

She did manage to lose a bit by having a calorie restricted moderate protein, moderate fat and very low carb. The calorie restriction was at between 1500 and 1800 calories a day. By playing around with the amounts of protein and fat in her diet she has at least now managed to achieve weight parity, though not at the level she would ideally like to be at.

The gall bladder is very important in fat metabolism, it emulsifies the fats and allows the body to process them. The absence of a gall bladder causes serious problems with fat metabolism.

Now, she is trying to use a bile salt supplement (one of the few available in the UK is Jarrow Bile Acid Factors. Amazon sell it at their site.

The idea is that she is taking bile salts with every fatty meal so that it helps in the digestion.

The reason for the problem is that the gall bladder stores bile produced by the liver. When the gall bladder is removed all fats have to be emulsified by the livers real time production - which means there is only 1/8th of bile salts available that would be available when you have a gall bladder.

So, yes, you can survive without a gall bladder, but if you are unfortunate enough to have a tendency to put on weight (which means insulin resistance) then it it a recipe for weight gain.

Do a little bit of reading about the bile salts and maybe give them a try as well. A few doctors appear to recommend them to people who have had a gall bladder removed. Unfortunately though, most doctors don't have a clue about nutrition.

If you do give it a try then please share your experiences since it may help others in the same situation.

Another great research paper studying the therapeutic effects of a ketogenic diet with regards to pain and inflammation, inflammation of course being the number one marker of degenerative diseases:

Reduced Pain and Inflammation in Juvenile and Adult Rats Fed a Ketogenic Diet
[link to www.plosone.org]

The most interesting part of this article is this line:

"Ketone metabolism results in a decreased production of reactive oxygen species [35], [36], known to contribute to inflammation [37]."

A lot is made of antioxidants in plants and certain vitamins. But these all 'supposedly' work AFTER the oxidation occurs. Interestingly it is glucose metabolism that causes oxidation in the first place, so adding anti-oxidants that in themselves may have caused oxidation in the first place seems counter intuitive.

Especially when carbohydrate avoidance and a ketogenic state reduce the oxidation that is taking place rendering those same antioxidants unnecessary!

Symptom and cause anyone?

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And of course, the inflammation and insulin links follow right through to other devastating diseases caused by hyperinsulemia, like multiple sclerosis.

Insulin resistance, inflammation, and cognition in Alzheimer's Disease: Lessons for multiple sclerosis
[link to www.sciencedirect.com]

It totally makes sense that Multiple Sclerosis should be added to the list of Metablic Syndrome conditions, since again the key player is excess insulin causing inflammation.

On the same basis, the ketogenic diet would make an excellent dietary treatment for MS sufferers.

So what does the MS Society recommend for MS sufferers?

Can you guess?

[link to www.mssociety.org.uk]

Well, well, well - now there's a surprise!

When you follow their practical tips, you realise it's the same old, same old -

5 a day (YAWN!!)
Use polyunsaturated margarines
and oils such as sunflower oil or
corn oil, instead of saturated fat
such as lard and butter. (YAWN!!)
Choose lean cuts of meat (YAWN!!)
Avoid too much saturated fat (YAWN!!)
Eat low-fat dairy products (YAWN!!)
Eat wholemeal bread and
wholegrain cereals. (YAWN!!)

OK, let me tell you what the low-fat, high carb diet is.

Fat and Carbs together are a metabolic disaster. The only diet that is worse than a high-fat, high carb one is a high protein, low carb, low fat one.

The Low Fat, High Carb diet is the pharmaceutical industry wet dream. Having the low fat counterbalances slightly the cummulative damage being done by the carbs. In simple terms this means let's keep the diseased patient alive for longer. Lifetime of misery/suffering and a good life expectancy for recurring drug income = BIG BUCKS!

Eating high fat, high carb will kill you pretty damned quickly and so their profits are reduced. They don't want you to eat this way not because it's bad for you - but because dead patients don't generate recurring cash!

Eating high-fat, low-carb will cure you so don't expect the health professionals or pharmaceuticals to recommend this. Where is the profit in long-lived, healthy people?

How handy that they can point to high-fat, high-carb diet and show how these kill (yes they do and fast) and blame it on the fat and then use this to rubbish ALL high-fat diets (even those devoid of carbs)!

[link to www.scientificpsychic.com]

Interesting article. Don't totally understand it may make some sense to someone here.


Regards
ubetido

Hi all

Any advice welcome. My blood results were posted a few posts back.

Apparantly I have very good trics/not bad HDL/and high LDL.

I have stopped taking statin medication.

Review by doctor further test in a month.

So can anyone here suggest how i should eat to get this LDL level down even if it rises the trics slightly, this will keep my doctor off my back.

I have had some sugar in my coffee recently and starting to question all of this high saturated philosophy.

I certainly am getting ailments i wasn't getting before and my blood pressure and LDL cholesterol have risen.

I understand the concept of saturated fats are not the total badies but eating just
fatty meat
full fat cheese
butter
eggs (with yolks)
and nothing else you would think has to have some effect.

However we are all different and some people can eat like this with no problems. Others see rises in cholesterol or other issues.

Perhaps the old saying moderation in all things may be appropriate. Incorporate the saturated as an overall part of the diet. Of course stay away from the hydrogenated and trans fats etc BUT STICK TO WHOLESOME FOODS STAY AWAY FROM GRAINS

Cheers
Ubetido

Last Edited by ubetido on 08/11/2011 12:41 AM

Thread continues to present excellent information and personal case examples. Love it!

8 months today since I started this way of eating. Though weight loss was not my objective, I now weigh what I weighed when I was 19 years old. Recent loss of 5 additional pounds I attribute to month-long marathon of working overnights with 12-13 hour shifts. Would eat large fatty meal before leaving and consume nothing but water and coffee till home again. Final week included minimum 12-13 hour fasts for 6 straight nights. Never felt hungry. Always had plenty of energy and was more than holding my own with co-workers half my age who were snacking on carb junk all night.

My weight loss has been over a long period of time. 13 years ago, when I was first diagnosed with hypo-thyroidism, I weighed nearly 113kg. Now I am around 78kgs. I have lost roughly 15 pounds since starting this diet. I feel the best I have felt in many, many years. My food budget is also less than half of what it formerly was, as I no longer purchase expensive fruits, veggies, and breakfast cereals. I also stopped taking my Synthroid and fired my doctor.

The information in this thread has been a real life-changer for me. Thanks to all.

I have been on this way of eating now for a year. I am 45 now my body looks as if I where 18 again. I lift weights and I have become defined and cut with great abs. I pig out on all the good marbled meats. People say don't eat that it's fat. I say it's delicious and gobble it down. I love my bacon and eggs scrambled with heavy cream every morning. I also like the liquid Stevia. It helps makes great ice tea. Thanks for this great thread!

One more thing....I have not even had a runny nose and have felt great all year.

I tried this diet, and though I lost weight, I didn't feel very good on it.

Just not the diet for me. I seem to better when I give up bread, and increase fruits...

I love, love, love this diet. Today I went through my closet...again...and threw away even more clothes that were ridiculously too big. (I had already done this twice before since starting this diet) After ten months following this diet I have gone from size 10/12 to size 2/4.

The past 6 weeks have been tough with a wedding, four birthdays and lots of cakes to bake and sample. Even with all the family get togethers and celebrations I still managed to loose another two pounds though the joint pain and fatigue that returned with the cheating were killers. I am finally now back on track staying pretty close to the diet ratios just to avoid pain and crabbiness more than for any more weight loss.

Someone stopped me at a store a few days ago, having recognized me from high school, which was 36 years ago. When I expressed surprise that he knew who I was, he said I still looked exactly the same. Haha...they used to call me toothpick in high school, so I took that as quite a compliment.

Anyway...I would encourage anyone trying this plan to stick it out, and to be careful to eat all the required fat for best results. I would also warn them to prepare for carb cravings that will make them nuts by day four and top out during the third week of the diet with serious symptoms of flu and pain. But if they can make it past the 3rd week, they will come out of it by the end of the first month feeling fabulous and so much younger.

It makes so much sense to eat these easy to fix and mostly inexpensive foods. Avoiding all the packaged crud from the store can't help but add many healthy years of life. As for the earlier mention of this diet helping acne...people keep commenting on how beautiful my skin looks. In fifty some years no one ever said that to me before this diet. Now I hear it atleast monthly from someone. I used to wake up dreading the day....but now I wake up excited to get the bacon in the skillet and on with my day!

I think this diet would put most of the hospitals, doctors and drug companies out of business. I also think it should be required fare for all rehab hospitals, prisons, alcohol and drug abuse treatment centers, and mental health centers. I am pretty sure getting people un-addicted to carbs would change their thought processes and mental state, allowing them to make better choices in life. I feel as though a demon has been lifted from my own life. That is how completely different I feel mentally from ten months ago!

Nuff said!

Bump this thread as one of the greatest of all time...

Back into my size 6 skinny jeans...

I posted this on another thread, but if you go to the FDA’s poisonous plants data base, and type the word “soy” into the search bar, you will get 196 hits, dealing with the toxicity of soy including thyroid toxicity, pancreatic toxicity, reproductive toxicity, hemorrhagic problems and many other known risks from the 1950’s, 60’s 70’s 80’s and 90’s.





[link to www.accessdata.fda.gov]


In those days farmers and ranchers refused to use soy because it was considered an inferior animal feed. In the last 15 years it has been promoted as the "new health food".

Another link:

[link to campaignfortruth.com]

And another:

[link to www.westonaprice.org]

Last Edited by emerald eye on 08/18/2011 08:01 PM

Pics, or it didn't happen! ;)

vegan diet cures cancer/high blood pressure/heart disease/diabetes/etc.


look into it....


example=forks over knives
[link to forksoverknives.com]


i love you:)

Grats on the pin. This thread deserves it.

great info!

this food world is so full of lies

Yes, High Fats and Calories have NOTHING to do with overweight

Its the ability to handle sugar and diseases of the thyroid and stress cortisoid that causes overweight.

Cut out fats and calories and you are bound of Schizophrenia and nervous disorders, It probaly explains why Hollywood stars are so eccentric and divorce so much. Id hate to be around them, They are probaly emotional wrecks.

I love meat, I feel weak without meat.

I feel sick if I eat modern meat, I got off of it, so full of hormones, phosphates and the like. Kidneys can't handle the phosphates, the storage of excess phosphate is behind most arthritis. so dairy goes out the window too and all the foods they add phosphate too. too much protein in many people produces acid conditions. jesus taught back then and he teaches now. that HUman does not consume flesh. quality eggs yes, for some that require dietary cholesterol (me), but no meat.

There are healthy fats in plants, use them.

So, basically this is the Atkins' Diet? Sounds like it to me. Eat fat and protein--avoid carbs. Maybe I'm missing something here but if this is essentially the Atkins' Diet then this is NOT a healthy way to eat, folks.

Yes you may lose weight rather rapidly but you'll end up with Gout. This is NOT a healthy way to eat for the long haul and can make you really sick.

one should NOT avoid carbs. the issue with the carbs is the quanity without exercise and the fact that most are not whole grains or other whole food. Man that sits on butt and eats donuts does have a problem with hyperinsulinism. this is also hereditary. My super low carb diet to put a lid on that went overboard and enable some of my diabetes, which would not have happened had I just deceased the carbs.

hyperinsulism is the major cause of migraine headaches. each body is also different., learn your own body.

when I got my own meter many years ago, I learned I always ran high blood sugars and that it was genetic, and that I thus developed too much insulin to deal with it. balance in everything. learn you own body. exercise is paramount to most people, not matter the diet. meat eating destroys nature on an over populated planet too. and the methods of raising are beyond cruel. I will not eat it for that reason alone.

there is also a great deal of problems with the attempted genocide. do not be getting vaccines. leading cause of diabetes in INFants now, is vaccines. the reason there is so much diabetes now in the elderly and disabled is the Pneumonia vaccine, which one purpose causes diabetes.

This thread inspired me about this summer to change my way of eating.

Had gained weight and felt sluggish. Took away the carbs, sugar and starches. Don't like meat that much but went ahead with it. Veggies and fruit in summer make more sense to me so I mostly ate those after a while.

Then saw an AMAZING documentary FAT SICK AND NEARLY DEAD on Netflix and that was another turnaround.

Combined the 2 methods since they suited me better- have lost almost 19 lbs. which is so amazing since this has never felt like a diet just fine tuning my lifestyle.

Juicing works! Low carb works! Can alternate on days and feel great now.

Read these books by Michael Pollan,

In Defense of Food: An eater's manifesto

and

The Omnivore's Dilemma : A natural history of four meals.

These books are fantastic and cover the western diet in great detail. In defense of food highlights how we in the west have shifted our entire diet from one that used to be nearly all plants, to a diet of seeds. It covers that fact how we have adulterated our farm animals and meat by feeding them corn which is unnatural for them to eat. It describes how important fat is for our bodies and how beneficial it is. It shows how us in the west are consuming a massive diet of Omega 6 fats instead of Omega 3's. And how the sources of Omega 3's such as beef that we used to ingest, no longer contain the omega 3's because we removed farm animals from their diet of plants and now feed them corn. Read it if you have the time, its really good.

The Omnivore's Dilemma, is equally an excellent read. It follows all of the inedible #2 field corn that is grown in the midwest for the sole purpose of processing and high fructose corn syrup production, amongst others. It really highlights how most of what you eat is not real Food any longer.

You are a moron if you eat the way the OP says.

Go raw vegan, it is the next paradigm shift!

i dont believe you have to eat high fat.
i am thin and my major source of calories is whole wheat. a few times a week i will eat high fat and its fine.
i also exercise.

Actually it says something like i give you animals and fish to eat,not dont eat it only says dont eat animals with split Hoofs.