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Why is the middle finger bad ??? Who invented that?

 
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Why is the middle finger bad ??? Who invented that?
So if ya tick people off when you drive and they give the middle finger.

But who decided that this is bad? After all, its only a finger???
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12/08/2005 10:14 AM
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I decided it. Got a problem with it?
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Show people that finger and tell them you are starting a new trend and it actually means I think you´re swell.
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It´s been myth handed down thru the generations.
When someone pissed Zeus off, he gave them the finger (ie a lightning bolt).
(why its the middle finger I don´t know)

Sigh!! If only we could do that today!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The finger, known variously as the one-finger salute, the highway salute, flipping (someone) off, flipping the bird or the Trudeau salute (in Canada). It is a hand gesture made by extending the middle finger of the hand while bending the other fingers at the second knuckle. It has an offensive meaning in some cultures, notably North America. The meaning is essentially "fuck you" or "go fuck yourself."

Origin

The origins of this gesture are highly speculative. It is identified as the digitus impudicus ("impudent finger") in Ancient Roman writings. It was defined there as a gesture intended to insult another. It has been noted that the gesture resembles an erect penis. Ancient Romans considered an image of an erect phallus as a talisman against evil spells. As a consequence, displaying this gesture to another may not have been a pseudo-sexual insult but rather an insulting statement along the lines of – "I´m going to protect myself against your witchcraft, before you even start."

In Canada, showing the middle finger is sometimes called the Trudeau salute after Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau because of a famous photo of him giving the finger to protesters. He has also used the gesture in the House of Commons.

A popular, but apocryphal, story derives it from the gestures of English archers at Agincourt. The myth claims that the French cut off fingers from archers, and that the ´finger´ was a sign of defiance by those who retained their fingers. The same story also claims that ´fuck you´ is a corruption of ´pluck yew´ since bows were made of yew, or the phrase "I can still pluck you!". While it has been debunked many times, this story still crops up.
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The gesture is generally considered offensive in the United States, where the FCC has banned it from broadcast television. As a result the gesture is often censored, and airbrushed out or replaced with large-pixel blocks. This gesture occurs frequently on television shows like The Jerry Springer Show or on music videos shown on MTV or formerly VH1. A popular MTV show, Pimp My Ride featured rapper, Xzibit, taking a car with a pair of Mickey Mouse gloves with four fingers including the thumb. As Xzibit drives the car, he wears the gloves and flips off the camera. Despite the technicality, it is still censored. Canada and most of Europe have a more liberal stance, and modest to heavy use of the gesture is tolerated. In Asia, notably in Hong Kong or Singapore whose cultures are westernized, the gesture is also a taboo. In Germany when you show the "Finger" to the police or a public official you can be charged with indecency. This offence can incur a fine of up to 2000 Euros. Beyond the offensive nature of the gesture, Chinese Sign Language used by the deaf of China employ this handshape to represent the first born male or number one son, a position of status in traditional Chinese culture.

In some Mediterranean countries, and much of Asia, it is permissible to use the middle finger to point to something (on a written page for example) and Western cultures often do recognize the use of the middle finger to point to things. However, in North America it is considered more polite to use the forefinger to point to something.

In 1968, captured crewmembers of the USS Pueblo used a discreet version of the finger as a covert signal of defiance in propaganda photos taken by their North Korean captors.[1] ( [link to groups.msn.com]
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See also

* V-sign, an obscene gesture in the United Kingdom

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External link

* Debunking of apocryphal story about medieval archers and their usage of the middle finger ( [link to www.snopes.com] (from Snopes.com)
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Thanks #1176

Now I know that while I am in the states, not to salute my wife with the finger!

But if I was on vacation in Europe and I flip off my wife maybe it won´t bother her.


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"Ancient Romans considered an image of an erect phallus as a talisman against evil spells."

I will have 2 remeber that 1 !!

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idk who made that but i think people use it too much and it will probably end up being a meanless symbol
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when u r finger banging ur woman what finger is the most natural choice!!! come on guys! this is where it came from! go F ur self... the one finger that replaces the penis! lol
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The bible said is was.
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when u r finger banging ur woman what finger is the most natural choice!!! come on guys! this is where it came from! go F ur self... the one finger that replaces the penis! lol
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when u r finger banging ur woman what finger is the most natural choice!!! come on guys! this is where it came from! go F ur self... the one finger that replaces the penis! lol
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The middle finger is every woman's friend.....
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showing that you stand from the center, balance and harmomy
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There's a lecture on YouTube.

Back in the old days when the Brits & the French were fighting their 100 years war, the Brits used longbows. They were made out of Yew saplings, a tree that grows in Britain.

To draw the longbows properly they had to use their middle fingers. The French would chop off the middle fingers of the archers they captured, to cripple them.

You can get the rest...
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when u r finger banging ur woman what finger is the most natural choice!!! come on guys! this is where it came from! go F ur self... the one finger that replaces the penis! lol
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That's what I thought

It's the longest finger, good for anal stimulation while doing other things. Or the beaver if you like that sort of thing.

Like my friend says when people flip him off, "you want to stick that in my ass?"
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Which is kind of funny sometimes

Like one time some young guy flips him off in traffic, so my friend pulls up beside him, rolls down the window and goes on about how he must find him attractive because he made gestures to stick his finger in his ass.

I thought it was common knowledge that's what it meant.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The finger, known variously as the one-finger salute, the highway salute, flipping (someone) off, flipping the bird or the Trudeau salute (in Canada). It is a hand gesture made by extending the middle finger of the hand while bending the other fingers at the second knuckle. It has an offensive meaning in some cultures, notably North America. The meaning is essentially "fuck you" or "go fuck yourself."

Origin

The origins of this gesture are highly speculative. It is identified as the digitus impudicus ("impudent finger") in Ancient Roman writings. It was defined there as a gesture intended to insult another. It has been noted that the gesture resembles an erect penis. Ancient Romans considered an image of an erect phallus as a talisman against evil spells. As a consequence, displaying this gesture to another may not have been a pseudo-sexual insult but rather an insulting statement along the lines of – "I´m going to protect myself against your witchcraft, before you even start."

In Canada, showing the middle finger is sometimes called the Trudeau salute after Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau because of a famous photo of him giving the finger to protesters. He has also used the gesture in the House of Commons.

A popular, but apocryphal, story derives it from the gestures of English archers at Agincourt. The myth claims that the French cut off fingers from archers, and that the ´finger´ was a sign of defiance by those who retained their fingers. The same story also claims that ´fuck you´ is a corruption of ´pluck yew´ since bows were made of yew, or the phrase "I can still pluck you!". While it has been debunked many times, this story still crops up.
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Interpretation

The gesture is generally considered offensive in the United States, where the FCC has banned it from broadcast television. As a result the gesture is often censored, and airbrushed out or replaced with large-pixel blocks. This gesture occurs frequently on television shows like The Jerry Springer Show or on music videos shown on MTV or formerly VH1. A popular MTV show, Pimp My Ride featured rapper, Xzibit, taking a car with a pair of Mickey Mouse gloves with four fingers including the thumb. As Xzibit drives the car, he wears the gloves and flips off the camera. Despite the technicality, it is still censored. Canada and most of Europe have a more liberal stance, and modest to heavy use of the gesture is tolerated. In Asia, notably in Hong Kong or Singapore whose cultures are westernized, the gesture is also a taboo. In Germany when you show the "Finger" to the police or a public official you can be charged with indecency. This offence can incur a fine of up to 2000 Euros. Beyond the offensive nature of the gesture, Chinese Sign Language used by the deaf of China employ this handshape to represent the first born male or number one son, a position of status in traditional Chinese culture.

In some Mediterranean countries, and much of Asia, it is permissible to use the middle finger to point to something (on a written page for example) and Western cultures often do recognize the use of the middle finger to point to things. However, in North America it is considered more polite to use the forefinger to point to something.

In 1968, captured crewmembers of the USS Pueblo used a discreet version of the finger as a covert signal of defiance in propaganda photos taken by their North Korean captors.[1] ( [link to groups.msn.com]
[edit]

See also

* V-sign, an obscene gesture in the United Kingdom

[edit]

External link

* Debunking of apocryphal story about medieval archers and their usage of the middle finger ( [link to www.snopes.com] (from Snopes.com)
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Oh boy have they ever got this wrong. The middle finger is being the longer is frequently used to sexually stimulate a woman and is the one inserted into the vagina, because it gets bets penetration. From this usage it has come to mean "go fuck yourself". The British two finger salute, given by showing the first and second finger in the form of a V with the back of the hand towards the recipient originates from Agincourt. These are the finger used to pull the bow string. In Asia I learned to point with the thumb, because of the embarassing sexual connotation of the single index finger.

On one occasion, HM the Queen attended a celebration in Brunei, and while talking with the sultan deliberately wore canary yellow (a color reserved for his exclusive use) and indicated to things on the table with her index finger. The purpose of doing this was to show that she was the senior monarch, and that he was just a jumped up upstart, who owes his position to her.
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The back handed V sign signifies the pudenda and the sign was originally given with both hands. The right hand forming the V and the index finger of the left simulating the movement of a penis penetrating it.
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So if ya tick people off when you drive and they give the middle finger.

But who decided that this is bad? After all, its only a finger???
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Exactly. And "fuck" is only a word.
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So if ya tick people off when you drive and they give the middle finger.

But who decided that this is bad? After all, its only a finger???
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Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating
victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all
captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be
impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as 'plucking the yew' (or 'pluck yew').

Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major
upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew! Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute! It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as 'giving the bird.'

And yew thought yew knew every plucking thing!!
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Dzmn it I know this answer. Theirs a special on one of the movie channels that explains how it got to the middle finger.
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

By the way....which ones pink?
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So if ya tick people off when you drive and they give the middle finger.

But who decided that this is bad? After all, its only a finger???



Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating
victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all
captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be
impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as 'plucking the yew' (or 'pluck yew').

Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major
upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck yew! Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodentals fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute! It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as 'giving the bird.'

And yew thought yew knew every plucking thing!!
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ding ding ding...we have a winner!
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

By the way....which ones pink?
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when u r finger banging ur woman what finger is the most natural choice!!! come on guys! this is where it came from! go F ur self... the one finger that replaces the penis! lol
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That's what I thought

It's the longest finger, good for anal stimulation while doing other things. Or the beaver if you like that sort of thing.

Like my friend says when people flip him off, "you want to stick that in my ass?"
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There's a lecture on YouTube.

Back in the old days when the Brits & the French were fighting their 100 years war, the Brits used longbows. They were made out of Yew saplings, a tree that grows in Britain.

To draw the longbows properly they had to use their middle fingers. The French would chop off the middle fingers of the archers they captured, to cripple them.

You can get the rest...
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This!!

100%%%

As they would ride by the French with no middle fingers the soldiers would laugh and 'flip them off'

...Good times indeed.
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Eve did, I believe.
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its a representation of the male genitalia when erect.
you have the middle finger pointing upwards, and the 2 testicles on either side repersented by the thumb, index, ring finger and pinky.

meaning "eff" you
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There's a lecture on YouTube.

Back in the old days when the Brits & the French were fighting their 100 years war, the Brits used longbows. They were made out of Yew saplings, a tree that grows in Britain.

To draw the longbows properly they had to use their middle fingers. The French would chop off the middle fingers of the archers they captured, to cripple them.

You can get the rest...
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This!!

100%%%

As they would ride by the French with no middle fingers the soldiers would laugh and 'flip them off'

...Good times indeed.
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'The archers story is an urban legend - a story, usually false, which appears mysteriously, spreads quickly and is widely believed to be true. In 1968, when the term "urban legend" was invented (by US folklorist Richard Dorsen) such stories spread by word of mouth or through newspapers. Today, thanks to the internet, they can travel much faster and further.

We have several good reasons to distrust the story of the archers. It does not appear in any contemporary account of the Hundred Years War, nor in any academic history of the period.


The story is inherently unlikely. During the Hundred Years War, the only prisoners taken were nobles, protected by the code of chivalry, or those rich enough to have a ransom value. The lives of people outside the chivalric code were seen as worthless. In 1370, for example, Edward the Black Prince, victor of Poitiers, ordered the massacre of 3,000 men, women and children in the French town of Limoges. Yet the Black Prince was seen by both English and French as a ''flower of chivalry".

Like the people of Limoges, English longbowmen were not protected by the code of chivalry, and had no value as prisoners. Why would the French go to the trouble of amputating their fingers when they could just as easily kill them?'

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