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The Illuminati are split into two factions

 
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as jackson said, you're a den of vipers. i doubt vipers trust each other, either. i don't think the illuminati is human intelligence at its capstone, but that the various members/factions hate each others' guts and would do whatever they could to take power from each other is pretty much a given. beyond that, it's all rumour and hearsay.
...questioning the authenticity of never-ending exponential growth triggered by compound interest...
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Money has nothing to do with the agenda.
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It has always seemed to make sense that the Illuminati are not all on the same page. I recently just read something talking about a split into two different fractions.

The two main groups:

David Rockefeller Vs Rothschilds/Jay Rockefeller


David Rockefeller wanted Hillary Clinton for President

Jay Rockefeller/Rothschilds wanted Obama for President


Breakdown of the two fractions:


Team #1

David Rockefeller
Hillary Clinton
Less for Cap and Trade
Not Worried about Global Warming as much as other group
Big Oil Interests


Team #2

Jay Rockefeller/Rothschilds
Barack Obama
More for Cap and Trade
More concerned with Global Warming than other group
Want more restrictions on Oil Companies
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


It is just a numbers game to them, no matter who gets their way it always works out for them.
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I definitely see your point in the two sides, Energy vs. Currency, but I don't think they are necessarily opposed to one another. Like the Air Force and the Navy, they are two heads of a great hydra; but that doesn't mean there won't be any friendly fire.

On an aside, I think there are lots of subfactions, mirroring the individual's allegiance to whatever "supernatural" factions exist, be they star systems, pantheons, whatever.
 Quoting: Chant It Sir


Those are good analogies...and you have a good point there
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It is just a numbers game to them, no matter who gets their way it always works out for them.
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Not for long...

Cause we are not going to let them, right?
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Haha,Rockefellers couldnt even kiss the feet of the Rothschilds.

Hahaha.Whatever.

There are no two sides.



What you think that all rich people agree?

No way that is possible.

There are at least two groups.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



That is correct, there are AT LEAST two groups.
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probably...its all that makes sense.

2/3 vs. 1/3.

Knowing this then its no longer necessary to focus on this alleged group and focus on which direction your life is going to take;
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They are working towards same goal. Hegelian dialectic.
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The two groups are divided along these lines as well:


Northern Group: Left hand path; Satanic,Black magick, heavy emphasis on blood rituals, includes but not limited to religious groups such as: Druids,Satanist,Black nobility,Sorcery,Vampire cults, werewolf cults, etc.



Southern Group: Right hand path; Luciferian, white magick, heavy emphasis on balance of forces, includes but not limited to religious groups such as: The Vatican, Wiccan, Illuminati (Old and New), Freemasonry,etc.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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For the group that wishes control through money... there is always interest free Colonial Scrip.

For the group that wishes control through energy... there is always alternative forms of energy.

(For the group(s) that wish to control through force... there is always the 2nd)


If we work on these.... what control is left?


Peace. hf
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There is no way that what is generally referred to as the Illuminati is a specific group, or even an evolving group. There is no way that such a group could remain so secret, that no one has been able to name names.

However there is a relatively small group of people who own or control the vast majority of the world's wealth. These people use secretive societies, committees, clubs and "get-togethers" to decide how to retain their power by selecting and controlling politicians, so they can retain and further accumulate wealth.

There is no doubt that David Rockefeller and several big tax exempt foundations are used as paymasters and funders to the middle managers (politicians) and the many think-tanks and round table groups. Nearly every level of government institution has now been hijacked by by this system, the media also being owned and run by the same group of managers. An evil cabal of "God's Chosen People" have been running the show for many years. The backlash is again starting.

People need to pick their side!
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What is more valuable Natural Resources or Paper Money?

David Rothschild (Oil) vs Rothschilds (Bankers)

Energy vs Money

At some point those two are going to fight for power.

One side wants to control the world through Energy and the other side wants to control the world through Reserve Banks and Currency.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


The fight is definitely for Power...but this power...is unlike any before seen...

There is also supposedly a wildcard that the Illuminati didn't expect....

That is why the Illuminati are splitting....their mind control doesnt work on this wildcard....
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they aren't split/squabbling amongst themselves all your secret societies work together behind the scenes

and your rockefellers/rothschilds whoever else is on mainstream media dont control shit they are just puppets

so is the royal families of europe/political leaders /pope

whoever controls the world we do not know/see
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I'm telling you...From my research, there is two sides to the Illuminati. You can disbelieve me if you want.

There is black ops...a few members from every country all working together...along with working with aliens on evolving us.

You have the malevolent beings and the benevolent beings and those who work for them.
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Money has nothing to do with the agenda.
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Money has everything to do with it...that is how they control you...thinking you need it to survive....

Life exists without the concecpt of currency...

Currency is the Occults lovechild....its how they control all of you...

Money ain't shit...can't bring true happiness...its funny how brainwashed some of you are...believing the propaganda that is being pumped at you from all directions....

You all are slaves and a piece of the games....you all churn while on this earth to make money...most of which ends up in their accounts and possession....

For them to do with as they please...not you...you have to pay debts your whole life, credit cards, car payments mortgages and food, etc...

There are indigineous people that are still surviving....without money....
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This is small potatoes. Think big picture. Big.
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they aren't split/squabbling amongst themselves all your secret societies work together behind the scenes

and your rockefellers/rothschilds whoever else is on mainstream media dont control shit they are just puppets

so is the royal families of europe/political leaders /pope

whoever controls the world we do not know/see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064228


They do are controlled by some unseen guys but on the rockefellers/rothschilds level , they are split , theres no question about this. This tactic apply to every level of the ''game'' and when you talk about the greediest ''souls'' of this planet , conflict of interest is a no brainer.
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Even the reptilians were split in a simillar way , none of them good of course but this whole game is built in their image.
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The Rothschilds were backing Hillary, and then after that McCain when Obama won the Democratic nomination:

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


Lynn Forester De Rothschild, Top Clinton Fundraiser, Backs McCain
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ANN SANNER | 09/17/08 08:28 PM | AP


WASHINGTON — A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.

"I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party _ and they will continue to _ too far to the left," Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. "I'm not comfortable there."
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(") More concerned with Global Warming than other group <vs.> (") Not Worried about Global Warming as much as other group

?



The David Rockefeller group (Energy group) is not worried as much about stopping Global Warming as they have the oil. Worrying about stopping Global Warming would get people to want to use less oil and they would lose their power.

The Rothschild group (Banking group) is more worried about Global Warming (or at least appears that way) so that they can get a Carbon Credit Currency which would give them more control over the people through that one world Carbon Credit currency.

Think of it has a tug of war.

One side has Energy Control and the other side Currency Control.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



All they want is control. Anyway they can get it.
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Open Your Eyes,

thanks,

I too enjoy your posts, Glad to here we have the same interests.

It would only seem inevitable that these evil groups are spitting up.

Im guessing, even if the presedent was you or I the Illuminati would still have the ability to pull the strings.

Im also guessing the 6 members that own all the media have control over the mass amounts of people in the US.

These people with ALL the money will have the ability to shut down what we think as the INTERNET.

That means they will disable all the programs including Microsoft word, Enternet explorer, Adobe, I wouldnt doubt they own Norton anti spyware.

Luckly we have plenty of people (hero's) that will be smart enough to help re build the Internet, their plan will back fire and everyone will stop watching TV and start using the new internet we build.

Note: Might be smart to start learning how to take apart and put back together our computers.

Right now I go to college for one reason...computer classes.

Might be hard for some to realize but do you see that little camera on your laptop, these people have access to these cameras (its how they learn about us) and its also why you here about the child molestations <--spell? inside the church.
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Years ago, at a site we cannot link to, with initals "RM" they talked a lot about the secret war between the 2 main factions. They said all political power,natural resources, most nations, and major corporations was aligned with either Faction 1 or Faction 2

And, by watching the press, you could see who was winning at any given point. Like if Coke or Citibank had a big deal that went through, then it meant Faction 1 was winng. If Apple, or Pepsi-- then it was Faction 2. At one point, they had a list of which corporations were aligned with which faction.

It also mentioned the emergence of a 3rd Faction, a rogue faction, who was led by former Illuminati Faction 1 members, who no longer agreed with the centuries long fight between Faction 1 & 2 and did not support either agenda.

Faction 1: NWO, Federal Reserve, International Bankers. Main family of control are the Rothschilds.

Faction 2: from the line of King of Bavaria, the Knights Templars. Want sovereign nations, and against the New World Order & international bankers because their nations had been destroyed by them.

Faction 3- Made up of former Faction 1 including their children who disagreed with their families position and no longer wanted to play their game. Implied was younger Rothschild and Rockefellers.

This theory supports the comments about Jay Rockefeller splintering from David Rockefeller. The theory has been around for awhile, if you Google Factions, much is still out there
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I like your thought about educating around computers....

I am in the IT industry....

Technology is my niche....

The internet will not be shutdown....doing so, stops the occults progress....they are in a catch 22 now, I fucked up the game....

Money is dependent now on technology....

See the matrix is the fight against machines....fortunately...this earth is dependent on technology now in order to progress....the Illuminati didn't think about big picture....they let Mal del Ojo blind their third eye....

Its their flaw...why they are angels and God is

Now we have the advantage....
Open Your Eyes (OP)
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The Rothschilds were backing Hillary, and then after that McCain when Obama won the Democratic nomination:

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


Lynn Forester De Rothschild, Top Clinton Fundraiser, Backs McCain
digg


ANN SANNER | 09/17/08 08:28 PM | AP


WASHINGTON — A top Hillary Rodham Clinton fundraiser threw her support behind Republican John McCain on Wednesday, saying he will lead the country in a centrist fashion and accusing the Democrats of becoming too extreme.

"I believe that Barack Obama, with MoveOn.org and Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, has taken the Democratic Party _ and they will continue to _ too far to the left," Lynn Forester de Rothschild said. "I'm not comfortable there."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 729053


She appears to be a split off of her family and wanted the President that the other side wanted.

Please note that when I say Rothschilds I am referring to David, Evelyn, and Jacob

Also ask yourself is Obama more for banks or big oil? (cough cough remember the bailout that occured during his reign as President)
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Why did I start this thread?

Think about it.

We need to use the same strategy they use on us and apply on them.

Divide and conquer.

Lets figure out where their are differences are and start to apply pressure.

There are more us then there is of them.

United we stand divided we fall

Humanity must Unite

Keep looking for their pressure points.
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Open Your Eyes,

thanks,

I too enjoy your posts, Glad to here we have the same interests.

It would only seem inevitable that these evil groups are spitting up.

Im guessing, even if the presedent was you or I the Illuminati would still have the ability to pull the strings.

Im also guessing the 6 members that own all the media have control over the mass amounts of people in the US.

These people with ALL the money will have the ability to shut down what we think as the INTERNET.

That means they will disable all the programs including Microsoft word, Enternet explorer, Adobe, I wouldnt doubt they own Norton anti spyware.

Luckly we have plenty of people (hero's) that will be smart enough to help re build the Internet, their plan will back fire and everyone will stop watching TV and start using the new internet we build.

Note: Might be smart to start learning how to take apart and put back together our computers.

Right now I go to college for one reason...computer classes.

Might be hard for some to realize but do you see that little camera on your laptop, these people have access to these cameras (its how they learn about us) and its also why you here about the child molestations <--spell? inside the church.
 Quoting: OneMind


I could see the technology becoming its own faction down the road.

Of course it depends on who owns the technology companies.

They need to be careful about who they take money from as if they want to become their own faction they must remain independent and not OWNED by any of the current power structures.
Open Your Eyes (OP)
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Years ago, at a site we cannot link to, with initals "RM" they talked a lot about the secret war between the 2 main factions. They said all political power,natural resources, most nations, and major corporations was aligned with either Faction 1 or Faction 2

And, by watching the press, you could see who was winning at any given point. Like if Coke or Citibank had a big deal that went through, then it meant Faction 1 was winng. If Apple, or Pepsi-- then it was Faction 2. At one point, they had a list of which corporations were aligned with which faction.

It also mentioned the emergence of a 3rd Faction, a rogue faction, who was led by former Illuminati Faction 1 members, who no longer agreed with the centuries long fight between Faction 1 & 2 and did not support either agenda.

Faction 1: NWO, Federal Reserve, International Bankers. Main family of control are the Rothschilds.

Faction 2: from the line of King of Bavaria, the Knights Templars. Want sovereign nations, and against the New World Order & international bankers because their nations had been destroyed by them.

Faction 3- Made up of former Faction 1 including their children who disagreed with their families position and no longer wanted to play their game. Implied was younger Rothschild and Rockefellers.

This theory supports the comments about Jay Rockefeller splintering from David Rockefeller. The theory has been around for awhile, if you Google Factions, much is still out there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 131223


Great info.

Thanks for sharing!
Open Your Eyes (OP)
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I like your thought about educating around computers....

I am in the IT industry....

Technology is my niche....

The internet will not be shutdown....doing so, stops the occults progress....they are in a catch 22 now, I fucked up the game....

Money is dependent now on technology....

See the matrix is the fight against machines....fortunately...this earth is dependent on technology now in order to progress....the Illuminati didn't think about big picture....they let Mal del Ojo blind their third eye....

Its their flaw...why they are angels and God is

Now we have the advantage....
 Quoting: TonyMontana


Read these two threads about Artificial Intelligence and Artificial General Intelligence.

They both get into the future of technology which is a very important piece of the puzzle that we all need to learn about.


The elite final plan : The AGI Manhattan Project
Thread: The elite final plan : The AGI Manhattan Project


AGI Manhattan Project v2.0: Neuro-Economic Warfare
Thread: AGI Manhattan Project v2.0: Neuro-Economic Warfare
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The two groups are divided along these lines as well:


Northern Group: Left hand path; Satanic,Black magick, heavy emphasis on blood rituals, includes but not limited to religious groups such as: Druids,Satanist,Black nobility,Sorcery,Vampire cults, werewolf cults, etc.



Southern Group: Right hand path; Luciferian, white magick, heavy emphasis on balance of forces, includes but not limited to religious groups such as: The Vatican, Wiccan, Illuminati (Old and New), Freemasonry,etc.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


WindedLion,

Which of these two groups that you listed do you see as the biggest threat?

Is there a third group? i.e. a group that focuses on pure love and is 100% good.
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This is small potatoes. Think big picture. Big.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064925


Give us some hints.

What is the "Big" picture you are referring to?

Timeline shifts?

Extraterritorials?

Life is really just a game?

I am sure a lot of people on here has already thought about the possibilities on what reality really is.

So what possibility do you believe to be the big picture?

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