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False spirits invade the church - KUNDALINI WARNING! Please forward this to everyone you know!

 
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Mini-documentary from an "Insider" in the Charismatic scene showing clips of the most shocking invasion of false spirits in church history. This is a must-see. Please share it with your friends and warn others to watch it.

Key names that supported this "invasion"- Todd Bentley, John Arnott, Randy Clark, Rodney Howard Browne, Bob Jones, Mike Bickle, Bill Johnson, Toronto Blessing, Brownsville revival, TACF, IHOP, Patricia King, Sid Roth, God TV, Joshua Mills, Peter Wagner, NAR, Kenneth Copeland, and many more.

Key names who stood against it: David Wilkerson, Art Katz, Derek Prince, John Wimber, Lee Grady, Clifford Hill, Andrew Strom.


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What's Kundalini ?
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What's Kundalini ?
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WHAT is KUNDALINI?

If you search for Kundalini and Shakti on the Internet, you will find
that multitudes of people in the New Age and Eastern religions
still experience these powerful manifestations. Often this is with
the help of a Guru, who touches them on the forehead so that
they can experience a "Kundalini Awakening".

As researcher Robert Walker wrote in 1995:
"The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'.
At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience
from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead,
by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch.
The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini…
After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual
elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably,
sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter
as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called
'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds
of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to
higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert
physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness..."

And as the guru Shri Yogãnandji Mahãrãja wrote:
"When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh
or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter
deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions…
the Kundalini Shakti has become active."

In China there is a popular Kundalini-type movement called 'Qigong'.
When a Chinese Qigong spiritual master spoke in the USA in
1991, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that many in the crowd
began to experience "spontaneous movements". The master told
his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some
strong physical sensations - or start laughing or crying. Don't worry.
This is quite normal."

When you see videos of these "kriyas" or other Kundalini-type
manifestations, you would often swear that you are watching a
modern "Impartation"-type church meeting. (And I say this as
someone who believes strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I just
don't believe in "alien" anointings infiltrating the Body of Christ!
There is a big difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit).

Since 1993-4, I believe a foreign spirit has been allowed to invade
the church - first through Rodney Howard-Browne's ministry - then
Toronto, then the Prophetic movement (which I was part of at the
time) and on into Lakeland and many other ministries and
movements. I urge people now to "test the spirits" just as we are
commanded to in Scripture. Do not let just anyone lay hands on
you. This is a powerful spirit and it has the backing of a lot of
big-name ministries. In fact, these men and women are the very
ones responsible for allowing it to spread right through the body
of Christ. And one day they will be answerable to God for doing so.
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No worse than the christian snake cults, speaking in tongues, and all that.

In my mind 95% of those convulsing on the floor are attention seeking.
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No worse than the christian snake cults, speaking in tongues, and all that.

In my mind 95% of those convulsing on the floor are attention seeking.
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Ooops, here's a vid:

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No worse than the christian snake cults, speaking in tongues, and all that.

In my mind 95% of those convulsing on the floor are attention seeking.
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I shy away from that stuff...

...talking in tongues always gave me a bad feeling.
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You do have to be very careful when dealing with the supernatural, however the Bible does talk quite a bit about this as well. Remember, Satan can only copy and use for evil what God designed for good. I am a born-again, Spirit-filled Christian and I spoken in tongues before many times, just like the Bible talks about. When I am filled with the Holy Spirit, things like this happen.

All this being said, there ARE false spirits that Christians need to be mindful of and watch out for. Jesus said that in the end times, God would pour out His spirit and we would see and experience things that which the world in all of history has never experienced, so keep this in mind before calling something "of Satan".

Just pray and ask God to open your heart to His will and His understanding and He will do the rest.
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Yes there are many false--counterfiet spirits among the church. People need to ask for discernment or seek ones who truley have this gift. Read once that Kundalini is a snake like spirit that wraps around the base of ones spine and is highly wanted in the yoga community.The mentioned spiritual leaders are truley decieved in their search for gifts and power( not any different that whitchcraft). Do not let any man or woman lay hands on you, this abomination is everywhere now.
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You do have to be very careful when dealing with the supernatural, however the Bible does talk quite a bit about this as well. Remember, Satan can only copy and use for evil what God designed for good. I am a born-again, Spirit-filled Christian and I spoken in tongues before many times, just like the Bible talks about. When I am filled with the Holy Spirit, things like this happen.

All this being said, there ARE false spirits that Christians need to be mindful of and watch out for. Jesus said that in the end times, God would pour out His spirit and we would see and experience things that which the world in all of history has never experienced, so keep this in mind before calling something "of Satan".

Just pray and ask God to open your heart to His will and His understanding and He will do the rest.
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I had a situation in a church where they were pressuring me to learn to speak in tongues..it freaked me out...later I learned it's something that should probably be done in private...which I can agree with.

I'm not against speaking in tongues...I just had a bad experience is all.
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BULLSHIT,stop with the ignorance !!!
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1 Kings 22:1 And they continued three years without war between Syria and Israel.

2 And it came to pass in the third year, that Jehoshaphat the king of Judah came down to the king of Israel.

3 And the king of Israel said unto his servants, Know ye that Ramoth in Gilead is ours, and we be still, and take it not out of the hand of the king of Syria?

4 And he said unto Jehoshaphat, Wilt thou go with me to battle to Ramothgilead? And Jehoshaphat said to the king of Israel, I am as thou art, my people as thy people, my horses as thy horses.

5 And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel, Enquire, I pray thee, at the word of the LORD to day.

6 Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said unto them, Shall I go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And they said, Go up; for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

7 And Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a prophet of the LORD besides, that we might enquire of him?

8 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.

9 Then the king of Israel called an officer, and said, Hasten hither Micaiah the son of Imlah.

10 And the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah sat each on his throne, having put on their robes, in a void place in the entrance of the gate of Samaria; and all the prophets prophesied before them.

11 And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron: and he said, Thus saith the LORD, With these shalt thou push the Syrians, until thou have consumed them.

12 And all the prophets prophesied so, saying, Go up to Ramothgilead, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the king's hand.

13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.

14 And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.

15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD?

17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.

18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?

19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?

25 And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself.

26 And the king of Israel said, Take Micaiah, and carry him back unto Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son;

27 And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I come in peace.

28 And Micaiah said, If thou return at all in peace, the LORD hath not spoken by me. And he said, Hearken, O people, every one of you.

29 So the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah went up to Ramothgilead.

30 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, I will disguise myself, and enter into the battle; but put thou on thy robes. And the king of Israel disguised himself, and went into the battle.

31 But the king of Syria commanded his thirty and two captains that had rule over his chariots, saying, Fight neither with small nor great, save only with the king of Israel.

32 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots saw Jehoshaphat, that they said, Surely it is the king of Israel. And they turned aside to fight against him: and Jehoshaphat cried out.

33 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots perceived that it was not the king of Israel, that they turned back from pursuing him.

34 And a certain man drew a bow at a venture, and smote the king of Israel between the joints of the harness: wherefore he said unto the driver of his chariot, Turn thine hand, and carry me out of the host; for I am wounded.

35 And the battle increased that day: and the king was stayed up in his chariot against the Syrians, and died at even: and the blood ran out of the wound into the midst of the chariot.

36 And there went a proclamation throughout the host about the going down of the sun, saying, Every man to his city, and every man to his own country.

37 So the king died, and was brought to Samaria; and they buried the king in Samaria.

38 And one washed the chariot in the pool of Samaria; and the dogs licked up his blood; and they washed his armour; according unto the word of the LORD which he spake.

39 Now the rest of the acts of Ahab, and all that he did, and the ivory house which he made, and all the cities that he built, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel?

40 So Ahab slept with his fathers; and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.

41 And Jehoshaphat the son of Asa began to reign over Judah in the fourth year of Ahab king of Israel.

42 Jehoshaphat was thirty and five years old when he began to reign; and he reigned twenty and five years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Azubah the daughter of Shilhi.

43 And he walked in all the ways of Asa his father; he turned not aside from it, doing that which was right in the eyes of the LORD: nevertheless the high places were not taken away; for the people offered and burnt incense yet in the high places.

44 And Jehoshaphat made peace with the king of Israel.

45 Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, and his might that he shewed, and how he warred, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?

46 And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.

47 There was then no king in Edom: a deputy was king.

48 Jehoshaphat made ships of Tharshish to go to Ophir for gold: but they went not; for the ships were broken at Eziongeber.

49 Then said Ahaziah the son of Ahab unto Jehoshaphat, Let my servants go with thy servants in the ships. But Jehoshaphat would not.

50 And Jehoshaphat slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoram his son reigned in his stead.

51 Ahaziah the son of Ahab began to reign over Israel in Samaria the seventeenth year of Jehoshaphat king of Judah, and reigned two years over Israel.

52 And he did evil in the sight of the LORD, and walked in the way of his father, and in the way of his mother, and in the way of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin:

53 For he served Baal, and worshipped him, and provoked to anger the LORD God of Israel, according to all that his father had done.
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I posted the entire chapter there. Here is the part.

The LORD sent a lying spirit to punish them.


2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

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1 Kings 22:13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.

14 And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.

15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD?

17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.

18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?

19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
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1 Kings 22:19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
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1 Kings 22:19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
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2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
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I posted the entire chapter there. Here is the part.

The LORD sent a lying spirit to punish them.


2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Isaiah 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

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1 Kings 22:13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good.

14 And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.

15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD?

17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace.

18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil?

19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.

22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
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We are going to quickly look into what Familiar Spirit is all about? When someone is having a spirit of divination, he /she is possessed with familiar spirit. Acts 16:16 tells us of young girl who has the spirit of divination. In the original Greek the word ‘divination’ comes from the word PUTHON which is also translated python. So in a nutshell she was operating with the spirit of python – Snake Spirit. She possessed the satanic ability to charm her victims until she and the spirit possessing her could take control of their minds. Take note of her words in Acts 16: 17, “The same followed Paul and us, and cried saying, these men were servants of the most High God, which shows unto us the way of salvation”. She was giving clear word of knowledge most “familiar spirits prophets” in the church will do.

To give you a clearer understanding of what we have at hand, let me quickly explain to you how familiar spirits operate. The word “familiar” is derived basically from the same Latin word used for FAMILY and it is applied to that which is known through constant association especially with reference to persons.

A familiar spirit is an evil spirit that has managed to gain entrance into the family line. The familiar spirit will stay with the bloodline or the family tree until the lineage dies out or they are cast out. They are spirits assigned by Satan to families. They are spirits that are familiar to a person, a thing, a place. If they are cast out from one family they will seek another family or stay inside pets maintained by the original family especially cats & dogs.

The word familiar spirits is mentioned about sixteen times in the Bible. (Deuteronomy 18: 10 – 12, I Samuel 28: 8 – 9). This message is not actually to totally address the issue of familiar spirits but to describe the problem we have in hand in the Body of Christ (for more details visit [link to www.schoolofwarfare.org).] Let’s look at the modus operandi of the familiar spirits and closely see the operations of these modern day “familiar spirits prophets”. Take note that am not trying to be judgemental but seeking to point out the ills around us in the prophetic ministry – so we must WATCH OUT! Satan will usually assign one of his familiar spirits to an individual or family. The duty of such spirit to collect every intimate and detailed information of that individual and store them in a spiritual file and those files are been referred to as Akhastic records in metaphysical parlance.
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I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
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"The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." Abraham Lincoln
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." Albert Einstein

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If, in any culture, children are taught, We are all equally unworthy in the sight of God—

If, in any culture, children are taught, You are born in sin and are sinful by nature—

If children are given a message that amounts to Don’t think, don’t question, believe—

If children are given a message that amounts to Who are you to place your mind above that of the priest, the minister, the rabbi?—

If children are told, If you have value it is not because of anything you have done or could ever do, it is only because God loves you—

If children are told, Submission to what you cannot understand is the beginning of morality—

If children are instructed, Do not be willful, self‐assertiveness is the sin of pride—

If children are instructed, Never think that you belong to yourself—

If children are informed, In any clash between your judgement and that of your religious authorities, it is your authorities you must believe,—

If children are informed, Self‐sacrifice is the foremost virtue and the noblest duty—

then consider what will be the likely consequences for the practice of living consciously, or the practice of self‐assertiveness, or any of the other pillars of healthy self‐esteem.

― Nathaniel Branden, in The Six Pillars of Self‐Esteem
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shaky;

[link to www.youtube.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1056220

What a load of demonizing ignorant crap!

First of all author shows vids of Christians freaking out and flailing uncontrollably around because they all of a sudden gives themselves permission to or whatever...then shows Hindus, mostly sitting and quite contained, rocking in reverence, or raising their hands in prayer or, actually receiving directed energy from a master, in which they relax into the arms of their fellows, not flip out in circles, convulsing on the ground like some kind of three stooges show.

Thusly disproving himself and looking like a total ignorant douche-bag in doing so.


Even the philosophy is self damning. As these Christians believe they are being taken over by the "Holy Spirit", the other part of God that isn't really explained well. Vs. Hindu's who believe they are activating their hidden energetic potential, put there by God, by worshiping said God.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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cruise

Had to watch it again...the guy is juggling apples and oranges, getting covered in rotten tomatoes and banana peels!
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1056220

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[link to believersjourney.blogspot.com]

Mini-documentary from an "Insider" in the Charismatic scene showing clips of the most shocking invasion of false spirits in church history. This is a must-see. Please share it with your friends and warn others to watch it.

Key names that supported this "invasion"- Todd Bentley, John Arnott, Randy Clark, Rodney Howard Browne, Bob Jones, Mike Bickle, Bill Johnson, Toronto Blessing, Brownsville revival, TACF, IHOP, Patricia King, Sid Roth, God TV, Joshua Mills, Peter Wagner, NAR, Kenneth Copeland, and many more.

Key names who stood against it: David Wilkerson, Art Katz, Derek Prince, John Wimber, Lee Grady, Clifford Hill, Andrew Strom.


[link to www.youtube.com]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1056220



This shit is always ACTING.
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09/04/2010 02:03 PM
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You do have to be very careful when dealing with the supernatural, however the Bible does talk quite a bit about this as well. Remember, Satan can only copy and use for evil what God designed for good. I am a born-again, Spirit-filled Christian and I spoken in tongues before many times, just like the Bible talks about. When I am filled with the Holy Spirit, things like this happen.

All this being said, there ARE false spirits that Christians need to be mindful of and watch out for. Jesus said that in the end times, God would pour out His spirit and we would see and experience things that which the world in all of history has never experienced, so keep this in mind before calling something "of Satan".

Just pray and ask God to open your heart to His will and His understanding and He will do the rest.
 Quoting: RV Lovers


Very well spoken.

"when thine eye is single you shall see God' - Jesus Christ

Enoch, the 7th from Adam , the first human being to obtain to enlightenment?

We shall see what we shall see.

And what is a false spirit anyhow?

As far as I know all spirits are real.

Words. Much words.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1088603

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