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Casting of the Veil

 
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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.
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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.
Born into this World
We create echoes of our inward yearnings
And Shift along the Axis
From matter to Spirit
- Scott Mutter
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Everything is beginning to accelerate...the air is charged...
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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.
 Quoting: Full Circle


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...
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No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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hf
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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...
 Quoting: Sickscent


Most don't see it the way I understand it. ;)
Born into this World
We create echoes of our inward yearnings
And Shift along the Axis
From matter to Spirit
- Scott Mutter
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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...


Most don't see it the way I understand it. ;)
 Quoting: Full Circle


I can understand...for most it is EXTREMELY difficult to understand...it almost feels to lovey-dovey and all that...For me, after certain experiences have been accumulated, I not only understand, I have developed a KNOWING through those experiences...I don't see how anyone can do it without the process of actual experience...belief just doesn't hold the same development...
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afro

Thanks PoT
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i'm banned!

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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...


Most don't see it the way I understand it. ;)


I can understand...for most it is EXTREMELY difficult to understand...it almost feels to lovey-dovey and all that...For me, after certain experiences have been accumulated, I not only understand, I have developed a KNOWING through those experiences...I don't see how anyone can do it without the process of actual experience...belief just doesn't hold the same development...
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Exactly. It's the lessons learned through personal experiences and the desire to understand the underlying meaning behind the experiences. Like I said in another thread, it takes quite a lot of self reflection and question and answer sessions with the self.

The opening post from the Cathars embodies the truth of unconditional love.
Born into this World
We create echoes of our inward yearnings
And Shift along the Axis
From matter to Spirit
- Scott Mutter
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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...


Most don't see it the way I understand it. ;)
 Quoting: Full Circle



I'm NOT banned anymore!!


hf


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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love
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macgun LOVE red_heart
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macgun LOVE red_heart
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macgun LOVE red_heart

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And this is why the "veil" is a necessary part of it all. Not something that should be destroyed or removed.

It's integral to the program.


LOL...I was going to entitle the post...destruction of the veil...but that is wrong. It is CRAZY you said what you did, Full Circle...
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lol great post btw

Last Edited by Enlilson on 08/12/2010 09:31 PM
It doesn't matter who I m it's who U R so ChoOse
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Thank you, Sickscent. It's perfection.


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Outstanding post SS.

I am interested in why you chose to call this "the Veil".

The passage certainly doesn't pertain to the Veil of Forgetfulness, one which is important to moving past third density existence. It sounds more like seventh density existence......Oneness......the clearness of being all.

That is not to take anything away, the message is quite beautiful. Can you comment on why this has relation to a Veil?

Thank you brother.
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Thanks Sickscent.

Lots going on in the world, this helped me get back in focus.
Love is all that matters. Everything else is just distraction.

You will find more truth in a quest for happiness than you will in a quest for truth.

Only those who have the courage to face their fears earn the privilege of traveling beyond them.
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Outstanding post SS.

I am interested in why you chose to call this "the Veil".

The passage certainly doesn't pertain to the Veil of Forgetfulness, one which is important to moving past third density existence. It sounds more like seventh density existence......Oneness......the clearness of being all.

That is not to take anything away, the message is quite beautiful. Can you comment on why this has relation to a Veil?

Thank you brother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1064925


In my experiences, there are certain actions and concepts that keep the veil firmly in place. Those 'things' that keep the veil firmly in place are opposite to the lines of information presented in the original post...

As well, by understanding and experiencing and living the passage left by the Cathars, the veil will be cast from you and you will see, understand, and experience the 'divine' knowledge it represents...

non-understanding
dependency
ego
service-to-self
boundaries
restrictions

etc...

line by line you can go down and see that when you do not practice the knowledge, but instead practice living without or opposite to the knowledge, the veil will remain opaque around your life...

The way to cast it off, is to live the knowledge, there-by experience it first-hand...
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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.


 Quoting: Sickscent


Perhaps next time you could reference this???

pg 147 from Servers of the Divine Plan..... [link to thenewcall.org]
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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:

It has no fabric, only understanding.

It has no membership, save those who know they belong.

It has no rivals, because it is non-competitive.

It has no ambition, it seeks only to serve.

It knows no boundaries, for nationalisms are unloving.

It is not of itself, because it seeks to enrich all groups and religions.

It has no secret, no arcanum, no initiation save that of true understanding of the power of love and that, if we want it to be so, the world will change, but only if we change ourselves first.

It acknowledges all great teachers of all ages who have shown the truth of love.

Its participants will practice the truth of love in all their being.

It seeks not to teach but to be, and in being, to enrich.

It recognizes the whole planet as a Being of which we are all a part.

It recognizes that the time has come for the supreme transmutation, the ultimate alchemical act of conscious change of the world-ego into a voluntary return to the Whole.

It does not proclaim itself with a loud voice, but in the subtle realms of loving.

It salutes all those in the past who have blazed the path and have paid the price.

Its members shall know each other by their deeds and being, and by their eyes, and by no other outward sign save the fraternal embrace.

Its members will dedicate their lives to the silent loving of their neighbor and environment and the planet, while carrying out their task, however exalted or humble.

It recognizes the supremacy of the Great Idea which may only be accomplished if the human race practices love.

It has no reward to offer either here or in the hereafter save that of the ineffable joy of being and loving.

Its members shall seek to advance the cause of understanding, doing good by stealth, and teaching only by example.

Its members shall heal their neighbors, their community and our planet.

Its members shall know no fear and feel no shame, and their knowledge shall prevail over all odds.

All those who belong, belong to the church of love.




Perhaps next time you could reference this???

pg 147 from Servers of the Divine Plan..... [link to thenewcall.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1066994


Yes, I have seen it in that book, but there are other sources where this comes from also, if I am not mistaken...(I actually read this prior to seeing it and reading it in The New Call)

But, yes, I will definitely reference that next time.

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spot on OP. 5*'s
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Thanks.

Will be doing more reading on the Cathars now.

Very, very interesting....
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:


 Quoting: Sickscent


If the Catholic Church was threatened by this -- it must be investigated.

WHAT church would be threatened by the concept of LOVE?
Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen.

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Everything is beginning to accelerate...the air is charged...
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I see.


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Funny how people who thought this way were tortured by the Inquisition.

An odd kind of funny that is no laughing matter.


Z

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The following prophetic vision for our time was left by Cathars, the last known of whom were burned alive by the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church at Montsegur, Languedoc, France in 1244 AD:




If the Catholic Church was threatened by this -- it must be investigated.

WHAT church would be threatened by the concept of LOVE?
 Quoting: Enaid

Oh wait,...

What you said.


Z
In time we hate that which we often fear.

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There is ref to a veil of ignorance being cast over
this planet in many ancient creation scripts. When
the godsofwar arrived the leader cast this veil
while the previous caring godsof prosperity and
abundance had to leave as their cycle was done and
his was due. Those loving ones told the humans they
would return but could not say when as those
humans couldnt understand at the time



Now as humanity collectivley is REMEMBERING and the
wargods cycle is ending we can FEEL how we did lay
under this veil of forgetfulness and how much broader
and brighter is the Universe we live in than the LIMITED
dark ages that were enforced here.

Read M.P Hall The Solar Christmas

THRILLING !

the ENERGY that was shut out by the wargods veil of
forgetfulness is the UNSEEN, ETERNAL, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
we have longed for. Ragnarok, " when all the wargods have
killed each other peace and the divinities of love return".

Shakespears " a Midsummers Night Dream " describes living under the veil and waking up.

We can make the times a great Spiritual leap forward or we can wallow in FEAR and TREMBLING


CHOICE.



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