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Dentists deliberately destroy your gums to damage your teeth to make Millions.

 
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I am serious about this. Granted, I do post silly things every week or so, but on this topic I am serious.

I'm going on 63 and have a 76 year old older sister and other brothers and sisters of ages above and below mine. Thirty years ago the sister who is 76 was told by her dentist that she needed to have a radical cleaning of her gums that involved a lot of scraping at the gum line and treatment with some sort of chemical.

My father (a retired Oral Surgeon) told her not to do that as a regular good brushing and flossing with an occasional Hydrogen Peroxide rinse would be all that she needed to keep her gums and teeth healthy. A week after that, my father was murdered, but I remember their conversation at the time. (Just to avoid speculation, the murder was not in any way related to the advice he gave my sister.)

My older sister went ahead and was persuaded by that dentist to have the gum line treatment. Though I did not know this at the time, within four years her gum line had seriously retracted and all of her teeth started developing cavities where the gum line used to be.

About twenty one years ago my wife's dentist suggested that she have the gum line treatment. I told her what my father had told my older sister. I had not specifically asked my older sister about her teeth since her treatment years earlier, but I suggested to my wife that she wait until I could ask my sister. Well, the sister was on a tour of Russia, so I had to wait a month before she returned. Meanwhile my wife let the Dentist treat her gum line.

My sister returned and I asked her about her experience and told my wife that the sister had no end of problems after the gum line treatment. So I advised my wife to be very careful about regular brushing and flossing. Her gums after the treatment had already started retracting a little. That was to become a progressive retraction in the years that followed.

About nineteen years ago, the dentist that I had, suggested an extensive gum treatment and I told him to fuck off and changed dentists. I am very conscientious about brushing my teeth (sometimes five times a day as soon after eating as possible if I have had a snack) I regularly floss and occasionally rinse with Hydrogen Peroxide or a strong mouth wash. My gums are healthy and I will be damned if I will buy into this crap that I need a gum line treatment. (Sometimes they call it an extensive treatment or extensive cleaning.)

I have had three dentists since then who have all tried to talk me into this aggressive gum line treatment, and I have told them all to fuck off and switched dentists.

My wife is now having serious dental problems just like my older sister. Since then I have talked with many many older people our age (sixties to seventies). Those who had that gum line treatment have lost their teeth to infections below "what was the gum line" before it was treated in that "extensive treatment" that caused it to retract and start the infections on the base of the tooth.

Me, I have beautiful teeth with no problems.

My convictions are that the American Dental Association is highly corrupt in telling dentists to do this treatment. By damaging healthy gums and causing the gum line to retract, the dentists assure themselves of future thousands of dollars from their trusting but damned foolish patients.

If you are in your forties (or older) and are REGULARLY brushing your teeth and flossing regularly and rinsing with a rinse that kills bacteria, DO NOT LET YOUR DAMNED DENTIST TALK YOU INTO AN EXTENSIVE TREATMENT OF YOUR GUM LINE.

Those sons of bitches are rip off artists who are just trying to ruin your teeth so they can make outrageous profits. If they have already done it to you and have ruined your teeth, sue them.

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WTF's this got to do with hating muzzies??
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Want to pay for a Dentist's summer vaction? Chew ice and eat popcorn.........
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Did your father die of gum disease?
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Want to pay for a Dentist's summer vaction? Chew ice and eat popcorn.........
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What's wrong with popcorn?!?
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same assholes that say mercury is ok in your mouth
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Want to pay for a Dentist's summer vaction? Chew ice and eat popcorn.........



What's wrong with popcorn?!?
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I think the sharp pieces cut up the gums...
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Ice can crack teeth and popcorn kernels get in to your gums and can crack teeth= big money.....hence-vaction.
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same assholes that say mercury is ok in your mouth
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Dentists like all Doctors and even college students are brainwashed my their professors...It takes a strong mind to undo the brainwashing and learn the truth...
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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same assholes that say mercury is ok in your mouth


Dentists like all Doctors and even college students are brainwashed my their professors...It takes a strong mind to undo the brainwashing and learn the truth...
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If they are in it for the money, they do not WANT to know the truth.
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thanks for the heads up. i brush now with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda , i make a paste, and i floss. i use this instead of flouride because the later gave me nothing but decay and gum disease. i think some people are more sensitive to it. i still have tooth problems but i am holding out on a root canal and crown. i am not sure what good all that does so i will just wait it out.
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thanks for the heads up. i brush now with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda , i make a paste, and i floss. i use this instead of flouride because the later gave me nothing but decay and gum disease. i think some people are more sensitive to it. i still have tooth problems but i am holding out on a root canal and crown. i am not sure what good all that does so i will just wait it out.
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Podner, if you have pain I strongly recommend having that issue treated. Root canals mean that you have an infection in the base of the tooth. The only solutions that I know of is drilling or extraction. The pain of an infection in the base of the tooth can be severe and it is dangerous because it can spread all along the jaw line if it is not treated.

The issue I bring up is that if the gums are deliberately caused to retract along the base of the tooth, that opens the tooth up to easy infection. That is what the Dentists are doing with their "extensive treatments" of the gum line.
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OP,
YUP! I've felt this way a long time about their "cleanings" in general, and not even just the extensive ones.
I allowed the ultrasonic "extensive cleaning" done a few years ago and now my gums are totally Fcked up!

To be fair, I have some other infections going on now but I believe the extensive cleaning has pulled apart the gum line. It probably causes periodontal disease too.

Even the regular cleanings with that ultrasonic cleaning thing does not FEEL right on the teeth. I KNOW they are doing damage with that thing.
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Soon your wife will have to get dentures OP.
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Actually it is not the gum line that is the target, it is below it and they 'scrape, both around the root of the tooth to the extent of how deeply eroded it is in cleaning but under periodontal surgery they scrape that and the bone around it. It is impossible to ever clean out porous bone to restore complete health and inflammation or infection free conditions once that has become established and in this process for the period of time that it 'works' your gums do recede(not retract) and swelling goes down to make it more apparent of the recession.

I think that your dad may have had a clue but presently, there has been little offered to address this other than the above.

Your entire health is subject to what is going on in your dental health and heart attacks being a disease of inflammation are also tied into this.

Good subject and maybe a clue that you do better when being honest and trying to do something well meaning.
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yeah should have kept my wisdom teeth
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My dentist suggested something like that. I'm talking numerous sessions at a cost of $5,000 total. I just had a bad feeling about it and changed dentists. I've not had a dentist suggest such a thing since and my teeth are fine. BTW: I've never had a single cavity in my life and I'm in my 40s.
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I have to agree with this agressive cleaning work seems to allow infection and cavities at the gum line which then spreads around the mouth.

Once done the only answer is repeated expensive crown treatment...if you can afford it.
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My dentist suggested something like that. I'm talking numerous sessions at a cost of $5,000 total. I just had a bad feeling about it and changed dentists. I've not had a dentist suggest such a thing since and my teeth are fine. BTW: I've never had a single cavity in my life and I'm in my 40s.
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Bottom line is if the Dentist wants to abuse your gum line, do NOT let him or her do it. That is just a way to get your teeth to fall out or become seriously and painfully infected in time.

Brush your teeth after eating and floss regularly. Use a mouthwash (or occasionally hydrogen peroxide) to rinse with, and you should not have a cavity problem.

The dentists told me that I needed the procedure, but I had that heads up from my Oral Surgeon father and did not do it. My gum line is intact as are my teeth and I have no cavities. It has been two decades now, so it is obvious that there was no need for the procedure.

My wife and my sister have had no end of trouble because they let the dentist destroy their gum lines.

Asshole dentists are all ripoff artists who don't care how much pain and discomfort they cause as long as they can get fools to keep on coming back for their "horrible teeth problems." They would not have had those "horrible teeth problems" if they did not have that gum line treatment in the first place.

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Gargle and swish in the mouth, with colloidal silver daily (3 minutes a day). Your choice to spit or swallow. Bleeding gums will go away. Your gums will get nice and healthy and tight. Deep pockets in your gums will naturally tighten up.

I did this and my dentist thought I was finally flossing. I do not floss. My bleeding gums disappeared. Deep pockets (6mm) were reduced by 50% (3mm) within 4 months. Pennies a day to do this.

Again it is your choice whether you spit or swallow. Only used low ppm Colloidal silver (20ppm or less), made properly with distilled water.

Your dentist will be amazed.

Also if you have dragon breath, this will help cure that too.
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OP, that would be completely unethical and any dentist pulling that crap should be thrown in jail.
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Also if you have dragon breath, this will help cure that too.
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Most bad breath is usually caused by bacteria. Proper oral hygiene will usually take care of that. Do floss as it is important to remove wedged in particles that bacteria propagate on. If you do not leave food particles in your mouth after eating, you will usually not have bad breath.

Garlic and stuff like that will always cause offensive odor but that can be from your mouth, throat or from your pores as the odor seems to saturate your whole body if you eat too much.
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OP, that would be completely unethical and any dentist pulling that crap should be thrown in jail.
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Just the same, they are doing it to thousands of people every week in the United States. Most of those people are fools and are going to pay for their "trust" in their dentist.
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My dentist suggested something like that. I'm talking numerous sessions at a cost of $5,000 total. I just had a bad feeling about it and changed dentists. I've not had a dentist suggest such a thing since and my teeth are fine. BTW: I've never had a single cavity in my life and I'm in my 40s.

Bottom line is if the Dentist wants to abuse your gum line, do NOT let him or her do it. That is just a way to get your teeth to fall out or become seriously and painfully infected in time.

Brush your teeth after eating and floss regularly. Use a mouthwash (or occasionally hydrogen peroxide) to rinse with, and you should not have a cavity problem.

The dentists told me that I needed the procedure, but I had that heads up from my Oral Surgeon father and did not do it. My gum line is intact as are my teeth and I have no cavities. It has been two decades now, so it is obvious that there was no need for the procedure.

My wife and my sister have had no end of trouble because they let the dentist destroy their gum lines.

Asshole dentists are all ripoff artists who don't care how much pain and discomfort they cause as long as they can get fools to keep on coming back for their "horrible teeth problems." They would not have had those "horrible teeth problems" if they did not have that gum line treatment in the first place.
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Every single person I've ever known who had this 'deep scale cleaning' started losing their teeth shortly afterward and ALL ended up with dentures.
'Nuff said.
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vitamin c corrects all problems with gum and teeth
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vitamin c corrects all problems with gum and teeth
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That is misleading. Vitamin C in your diet is essential to good health and healthy gums. It will not correct years of neglect to your teeth and gums.
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Wrong... It's sugar that destroys your gums. If anyone's in collusion it's the sugar industry and Crest.
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I had this done in Jan and am sorry I did. Working hard to repair damage. Unless I need an extraction, no more dentists for me.
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Want to pay for a Dentist's summer vaction? Chew ice and eat popcorn.........
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Dentists don't tell you about the ice and popcorn. They also don't tell you to not drink something hot and then cold...it is like a rock - the extreme temperature changes cause cracks/fissures in your teeth. Then, when you bite on something hard, the cracked piece slabs off and your tooth is screwed. The dentists' bank account gets 'crowned' with the $800 he gets paid for lying. You get the broken tooth and get to wear the crown the rest of your life AND have to get it replaced when it wears down. Dentists sometimes have no ethics.
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I had this done in Jan and am sorry I did. Working hard to repair damage. Unless I need an extraction, no more dentists for me.
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Once they get the gums to retract from their normal place on the teeth, they have started a progression that usually leads to total tooth loss. It makes it far easier for infection to get down to the lower parts of the tooth.
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OP, that would be completely unethical and any dentist pulling that crap should be thrown in jail.
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Not enough jail cells; they'd have to use the FEMA camps! Most dentists do this. I finally reached the point where I told them where to stick their flouride and mercury and massive ripoff gum scrapings. Found a dentist that doesn't try to pull that crap.

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