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Can we be moral in a Godless world???

 
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Can we be moral in a Godless world???
An objective review of human history would seem to point to the grim reality that by far the most dangerous thing in the world is false ethical systems.

If we look at an ethical system like communism, which was responsible for the murders of 170 million people, we can clearly see that the real danger to individuals was not random criminals, but false moral theories. Similarly, the Spanish Inquisition relied not on thieves and pickpockets, but rather priests and torturers filled with the desire to save the souls of others.

Nazism also relied on particular ethical theories regarding the relationship between the individual and the collective, and the moral imperative to serve those in power, as well as theories “proving” the innate virtues of the Aryan race.

Over and over again, throughout human history, we see that the most dangerous instruments in the hands of men are not guns, or bombs, or knives, or poisons, but rather moral theories. From the “divine right of kings” to the endlessly legitimized mob rule of modern democracies, from the ancestor worship of certain Oriental cultures to the modern deference to the nation-state as personified by a political leader, to those who pledge their children to the service of particular religious ideologies, it is clear that by far the most dangerous tool that men possess is morality.

Unlike science, which merely describes what is, and what is to be, moral theories exert a near-bottomless influence over the hearts and minds of men by telling them what ought to be.
 Quoting: Universally Preferable Behaviour - A Rational Proof of Secular Ethics. By Stefan Molyneux
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08/16/2010 10:20 PM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
God created anarchy
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08/16/2010 10:21 PM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
That's the test - and the bible is meant to keep you from passing it.

God IS science.
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08/16/2010 10:22 PM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
Yes - if we adopt the philosophies of the Vulcans. Hmmm...not sure about Pon Farr though.
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08/16/2010 10:24 PM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU BE GODLESS IN A MORAL WORLD?
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU BE GODLESS IN A MORAL WORLD?
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When has the ever been a moral world?
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08/16/2010 10:35 PM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
All morals have always been created by humans. To intimidate people, the moral-makers often claim their morals were given to them by a god. Many ignorant people actually believe it.
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08/16/2010 10:46 PM
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Morality is part of the binding cement of societies. No superstitious beliefs are actually required to recognize that certain behaviors contribute to social cohesion and others contribute to social decay. However many people choose not to think for themselves and need an outside force to make them behave right. So Gods that reward and punish have been invented to give reason as to why people should behave in a socially cohesive fashion. This avoids having to teach people about the many aspects of social behavior, that they would otherwise have to learn about.
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08/17/2010 04:34 AM
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
That's the test - and the bible is meant to keep you from passing it.

God IS science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1047766

Wrong, again!
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Re: Can we be moral in a Godless world???
It's very important to do the "right", thing especially when everyone else is losing the plot.

You can use any guide, "do unto others", and the 10 commandments are good. The important thing to remember is how it feels to others.

Avoid those who are negative, avoid those who are evil, and try and try and be a positive for everyone else, or failing that a neutral.

You will feel what is right and what is wrong.

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