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Pres. C. Arthur served for 42 mo. as predicted by REVELATION! Both he and OBAMA were British citizens at birth! (Guess what’s next)

 
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I did that two weeks ago...no one ever answered me...only the auto answer. Bottom line, no manuscript.....
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Me too. Apparently you must click the donate button to get the free copy although you do not have to actually donate any money to get the free copy.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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I did that two weeks ago...no one ever answered me...only the auto answer. Bottom line, no manuscript.....

Me too. Apparently you must click the donate button to get the free copy although you do not have to actually donate any money to get the free copy.
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Mmmmmm...thanks!
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.... wtf The A.O.B....standing where it ought not....? Hasn't happened yet...or has it...?



The 'abomination' was set up where it "ought not" on Jan. 20-21, 2009.

Daniel's "clock" starts the countdown from there.


You guys do know that Revelation is an Israel thing...right?
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Apparently not. Every time I try to explain this to them they quote a very small edited amount of my post and tell me how it really isn't Israel. The last response I got from them included a quote from Jesus about always hearing but never understanding. Doesn't sound like they are interested in entertaining any plain language or traditional interpretation of prophecy.

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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The last response I got from them included a quote from Jesus about always hearing but never understanding. Doesn't sound like they are interested in entertaining any plain language or traditional interpretation of prophecy.
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Why the bitterness? This is quite a bit different from your kind words on Rikers thread. Thread: CHRISTIANS! Questions for you.....

In our last response to you we clearly stated:

"we will do our best to respond to all of your words, but it may take a couple of posts."

We have children (and two of them are the same age as yours)so this evening was fairly busy...

We will get back to the rest of your last response very soon- but please don't take it personal if we think that:

"traditional interpretation of prophecy" is the problem!...
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You guys do know that Revelation is an Israel thing...right?
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Apparently not. Every time I try to explain this to them they quote a very small edited amount of my post and tell me how it really isn't Israel.
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What is wrong with you two?

Of course Israel plays a role in Revelation. But are you both missing the point that it can’t be ALL about Israel???
Jesus mentions that "let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains" (Matthew 24) and the Lamb is seen on Mt. Zion (Rev. 14)

- But what City is that of the Prostitute???
18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth." (Rev. 17)
Are you suggesting that this is Jerusalem?

Resister implied that there were only three “players’ in Revelation, and didn’t even acknowledge that there are five. Are you both implying that they are all in Israel??

Do you realize that the New Jerusalem in Chapter 21 will be over 1400 square miles? Nearly the size of the US! (Jerusalem is currently less than 50 square miles)

What City in Israel do you think is described here?...
19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. (Rev. 16)

What island in Israel is this? …20Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. (Rev. 16)

Revelation is more than just Israel.

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I have tried to read this thread tonight but am sure I missed points as I did so....there is my disclosure. I do not have an opinion as to who is right or wrong in their journey of process here. Therefore, if I quote word's it is only meant as a source of my personal opinion and not to defend a side.

[The Bible clearly states that the scriptures are not of "private interpretation". What you have stated is absolutely private interpretation, and therefore wrong.]

It does appear that the manuscript was written as a collaboration and in fact the OP has mentioned many times that he would have to confer with the others prior to answering questions [OP stated - At first glance, I have a few thoughts and immediate comments regarding the current (and past) 'ruler of this world', but would like to confer with my colleagues in the morning. (We will reply to you tomorrow)]. However, there are many "private interpretations" here on this thread. I do believe that many people are here bantering and conferring with each other....therefore should anyone take any belief from this thread or this manuscript, it ws not done so by private interpretation.

[So by this definition, it's implying that "he" is truly "us", and "we" are the anti-christ?... Just think about that!]

There was many more arguments in posts concerning whether or not the anti-christ was one or many people. The argument is simple. One could say that the Christ is not one person either. We could say that we all have Christ with-in us, whether as in a born-again Christian theory or a spiritual person whom has Christ Consciousness. However, if Christ can be one person, soul or spirit entity, supported by men with hearts and souls of God consciousness in Christ, then I would have to beg to differ that the same would be true of the anti-christ. Remember that "every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". I believe that both sides of the fence are correct here in that there could be one anti-christ, supported by many like minded people just as Jesus Christ is supported by many with a Christ consciousness.

The purpose in my post is this: People who are posting to this thread are mostly warring against the other as to who is correct and who is not. I believe that we were created to bring our great minds together, because in doing so, truth will be found. I don't think that will be one truth or another, but a culmination of truths. Consider leaving your egos in the closet and coming together for the sake of truth. I see the truth everywhere througout these posts from many different people. Many of you truly have great minds.

OP, I hope it will not be too much trouble to email me the manuscript. I requested it through the donation page aroung 10:45 this evening. Thank you.
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. --Samuel Johnson
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AHA!!! i KNEW THERE WERE STRINGS ATTACHED!

"the donate page..." says it all!
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We only have a pledge page at this point- you can't give us money if you try. We give the manuscript to EVERYONE who asks.

We will forward any profit to GLP because they have not banned us like the "Christian" forums. (yet)
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I think I will simply pray for the "will" of the most high and supreme God of all, to be done. I do believe that God's will may include mercy on him (Obama), but I will leave that decision to God.

I will, however, also pray for the safety and protection of the people this man is bringing harm to during his presidency/reign.
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AHA!!! i KNEW THERE WERE STRINGS ATTACHED!

"the donate page..." says it all!


We only have a pledge page at this point- you can't give us money if you try. We give the manuscript to EVERYONE who asks.

We will forward any profit to GLP because they have not banned us like the "Christian" forums. (yet)
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When I used the donate page for my request, it would not go through because I left the donate box empty. I simply put 0.00 in the box and the request went through.
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more info please


We can email the book from the website- 3M (151 page PDF)
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I did that two weeks ago...no one ever answered me...only the auto answer. Bottom line, no manuscript.....

Me too. Apparently you must click the donate button to get the free copy although you do not have to actually donate any money to get the free copy.
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sounds phishy
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I have tried to read this thread tonight but am sure I missed points as I did so....there is my disclosure. I do not have an opinion as to who is right or wrong in their journey of process here. Therefore, if I quote word's it is only meant as a source of my personal opinion and not to defend a side.

[The Bible clearly states that the scriptures are not of "private interpretation". What you have stated is absolutely private interpretation, and therefore wrong.]

It does appear that the manuscript was written as a collaboration and in fact the OP has mentioned many times that he would have to confer with the others prior to answering questions [OP stated - At first glance, I have a few thoughts and immediate comments regarding the current (and past) 'ruler of this world', but would like to confer with my colleagues in the morning. (We will reply to you tomorrow)]. However, there are many "private interpretations" here on this thread. I do believe that many people are here bantering and conferring with each other....therefore should anyone take any belief from this thread or this manuscript, it ws not done so by private interpretation.

[So by this definition, it's implying that "he" is truly "us", and "we" are the anti-christ?... Just think about that!]

There was many more arguments in posts concerning whether or not the anti-christ was one or many people. The argument is simple. One could say that the Christ is not one person either. We could say that we all have Christ with-in us, whether as in a born-again Christian theory or a spiritual person whom has Christ Consciousness. However, if Christ can be one person, soul or spirit entity, supported by men with hearts and souls of God consciousness in Christ, then I would have to beg to differ that the same would be true of the anti-christ. Remember that "every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". I believe that both sides of the fence are correct here in that there could be one anti-christ, supported by many like minded people just as Jesus Christ is supported by many with a Christ consciousness.

The purpose in my post is this: People who are posting to this thread are mostly warring against the other as to who is correct and who is not. I believe that we were created to bring our great minds together, because in doing so, truth will be found. I don't think that will be one truth or another, but a culmination of truths. Consider leaving your egos in the closet and coming together for the sake of truth. I see the truth everywhere througout these posts from many different people. Many of you truly have great minds.

OP, I hope it will not be too much trouble to email me the manuscript. I requested it through the donation page aroung 10:45 this evening. Thank you.
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Well spoken and you are closer than you know to the truth.

When there is more than one, there is no Ego.

... The manuscript was sent.

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I did that two weeks ago...no one ever answered me...only the auto answer. Bottom line, no manuscript.....

Me too. Apparently you must click the donate button to get the free copy although you do not have to actually donate any money to get the free copy.


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I requested the manuscript at approximately 10:45 PM give or take 15 minutes. I received an email reply with the manuscript attached at 11:48 PM. The OP is true to his word. Consider submitting your request again.
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I have tried to read this thread tonight but am sure I missed points as I did so....there is my disclosure. I do not have an opinion as to who is right or wrong in their journey of process here. Therefore, if I quote word's it is only meant as a source of my personal opinion and not to defend a side.

[The Bible clearly states that the scriptures are not of "private interpretation". What you have stated is absolutely private interpretation, and therefore wrong.]

It does appear that the manuscript was written as a collaboration and in fact the OP has mentioned many times that he would have to confer with the others prior to answering questions [OP stated - At first glance, I have a few thoughts and immediate comments regarding the current (and past) 'ruler of this world', but would like to confer with my colleagues in the morning. (We will reply to you tomorrow)]. However, there are many "private interpretations" here on this thread. I do believe that many people are here bantering and conferring with each other....therefore should anyone take any belief from this thread or this manuscript, it ws not done so by private interpretation.

[So by this definition, it's implying that "he" is truly "us", and "we" are the anti-christ?... Just think about that!]

There was many more arguments in posts concerning whether or not the anti-christ was one or many people. The argument is simple. One could say that the Christ is not one person either. We could say that we all have Christ with-in us, whether as in a born-again Christian theory or a spiritual person whom has Christ Consciousness. However, if Christ can be one person, soul or spirit entity, supported by men with hearts and souls of God consciousness in Christ, then I would have to beg to differ that the same would be true of the anti-christ. Remember that "every action there is an equal and opposite reaction". I believe that both sides of the fence are correct here in that there could be one anti-christ, supported by many like minded people just as Jesus Christ is supported by many with a Christ consciousness.

The purpose in my post is this: People who are posting to this thread are mostly warring against the other as to who is correct and who is not. I believe that we were created to bring our great minds together, because in doing so, truth will be found. I don't think that will be one truth or another, but a culmination of truths. Consider leaving your egos in the closet and coming together for the sake of truth. I see the truth everywhere througout these posts from many different people. Many of you truly have great minds.

OP, I hope it will not be too much trouble to email me the manuscript. I requested it through the donation page aroung 10:45 this evening. Thank you.



Well spoken and you are closer than you know to the truth.

When there is more than one, there is no Ego.

... The manuscript was sent.
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And it was received OP, thank you very much. It's going to be a long night...151 pages.
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I requested the manuscript at approximately 10:45 PM give or take 15 minutes. I received an email reply with the manuscript attached at 11:48 PM. The OP is true to his word. Consider submitting your request again.
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Good to see kind words at the end of a long day. Thank you!
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I requested the manuscript at approximately 10:45 PM give or take 15 minutes. I received an email reply with the manuscript attached at 11:48 PM. The OP is true to his word. Consider submitting your request again.



Good to see kind words at the end of a long day. Thank you!
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You are very welcomed!
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As an example, I’m sure you are just as amused by the people who come up with mathematical equations and numerology to show how Ronald Wilson Regan was the Antichrist because the letters of his name add up to 666 when you apply Hebrew numerology to his English name. People have done this for years. Their math does add up, but it’s primarily because that is the result they went looking for in the first place. Remember the guy in the 80’s with is book “88 Reasons Why Christ Will Return in 1988”? The next year he had 89 reasons for that year and 90 the next.

The root problem and reason for failed interpretations of prophecy over and over and over is one of self centeredness. People are so self-absorbed that they think the whole world, past, present, and future, literally revolves around their culture. I’m sorry, but that is just not how it is.


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You know absolutely nothing of our backgrounds, races, religions or nationalities. We do however believe that people are “self- absorbed” and think they understand Christ’s message.
Maybe you are not “self-absorbed” and maybe you would “turn the other cheek” if someone tried to invade your home.

39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 6)

Maybe you would never send your sons into battle, even if some foreigner attacked your beloved Tennessee; but you are the only one that can look into your own heart and answer these questions.

You, yourself have agreed that there are multiple “players” in Daniel and in Revelation, yet you seem quite confident that none of them have come and gone.
Your logic implies that because Reagan does not appear to have been one of the “anti-Christs”, then no future (or past) president could be.

You are implying that Satan will be much more obvious in how he takes control. You are implying that the US and all of the Americas are somehow exempt from the end-time activities.

We may be wrong- but we may be right; and you have not offered solid scriptural evidence to make any of your points.

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Manuscript: Daniels Seventieth Seven - The short version:
President Chester Arthur took his official oath 18,980 days after he was born. This is a big deal for Mayan calendar enthusiasts.
Arthur was president (with a proper oath) for precisely 1260 days (42 months). This is a big deal for anyone who has read the Book of Revelation.
Arthur was the first president to live like a king and he was the one who converted the White House into a palace.
As “Father of Civil Service”, Arthur virtually guaranteed that government workers would have a job for life. It was as if he knew they would eventually form powerful unions.
While running for office, Arthur’s birthplace was questioned, but researchers at the time failed to realize that Arthur’s father was still a British citizen when Arthur was born which would have kept him from being elected. Not only this, but Arthur went to great lengths to cover everything up, including lies about his parents and an attempt to change his own birth date.
Sound familiar?
Fast forward to the present-
Much of Obama’s support comes from unionized government workers.
Obama’s birthplace is questioned but nobody seems to understand that he is not eligible because his father was also a British citizen at the time of Obama’s birth.
Arthur was a member of the Feinian Brotherhood with the following in their creed: a nationality which may embrace Protestant, Catholic, and Dissenter…
Obama gives an inauguration speech that states: “We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, and non-believers.”
Both Arthur and Obama had to retake their presidential oath of office.
6/28/06- Obama states: “If God has spoken, then followers are expected to live up to God's edicts, … but to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing.”
This statement alone is in direct conflict with the most important Commandment.

The Book of Daniel describes 490 years prior to the destruction of the “anti-Christ” and the clock started ticking when the first Church was built in the new world in 1522. This projects a destruction in 2012.
The Book of Daniel describes 2300 days prior to the restoration of the sanctuary- This lines up with the date: 6/1/06. (616)- (A version of the Bible [Papyrus 115] identifies 616 with the anti-Christ.)
The Book of Daniel describes 1335 days to the restoration of the sanctuary- This lines up with Jewish New Year 2012. (9/17/12)
The Book of Daniel describes 1290 days prior to the destruction of the anti-Christ. This is the exact number of days from Obama’s inauguration up to the last of his 50th year. (8/3/12)
The Book of Daniel and the book of Matthew describe the anti-Christ as an “Aboma- nation”.
In the Book of Ezekiel, God mocks the people of Israel for turning to “Bamah”.
Obama’s inauguration was 6 Mayan Years (260 days), 6 Mayan months (13 Days), and 6 days shy of his 18,980 days. This is a big deal to Mayan calendar enthusiasts.
President Arthur’s wife died 616 days prior to him taking office.
Obama’s “blasphemous” speech on 6/28/06 is 6 years, 1 month and 6 days prior to the end of Daniel’s seventy sevens. (This was emailed to Glenn Beck on 8/3/10 and then he played this clip on his show on 8/16/10: [link to www.youtube.com] )
Our sun continues to rotate around a sister star (Nibiru) only it can’t be seen because it is a supernova remnant. This explains current weather, planetary changes, Sodom and Gomorrah, and what will happen in the future.
All world religions, including the Hopi, know what is coming. Edgar Cayce also knew and therefore he is referenced in this book.
Many people believe that the re-establishment of Jerusalem in 1948 was significant, but the Bible does not show the Jews returning to Jerusalem on their own but with God’s “outpoured wrath”.
Many Christians try to explain Daniels seventy-sevens as something that occurred before the coming of Christ but they fail to recognize that Jesus warned his disciples that the prophecy had yet to be fulfilled.
Many skeptics try to argue that the U.S. can’t be the “Beautiful Land” as described by Daniel, but I have not seen a good argument yet.
This was the short version and the manuscript includes all the details in the same order that they were given to me. It is a true story based on actual events. Please have patience with the unedited manuscript as it was written so that one of our author’s grade school children could understand.
For a free copy, go to www.daniels77.com.
COPYRIGHT. This is a copyrighted work and the author reserves all rights. You are welcome and encouraged to forward it, copy it, and distribute it to your friends, neighbors, and family as long as you don’t charge a fee or make a profit in any way, either directly or indirectly; and do not aid or assist any other person or entity in doing same.
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I agree with Obama about what he sates in liviticus and duetaronomy. Those are sadistic readings. Go ahead, stone your child you bible thumping moron
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I agree with Obama about what he sates in liviticus and duetaronomy. Those are sadistic readings. Go ahead, stone your child you bible thumping moron
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Your twenty five simple words have done more to advance our case than any other post… thank you! And thanks for the bump.
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We are agreed that of Daniel’s 70 weeks, 69 have come and gone and that clock was suspended right? Why? The time of the Jews (the 70 weeks) was suspended and the time of the Gentiles began so that the Gospel of Jesus Christ could be spread throughout the whole world and to complete God’s plan for the full redemption of mankind.

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Suspended? We do not agree with that. Where in the Bible does it say that the “clock would be suspended”?

We believe that 69 out of 70 “seven year periods” were concluded in 2005, and that we are now in Daniel’s Seventieth Seven – which will end in 2012.

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The last response I got from them included a quote from Jesus about always hearing but never understanding. Doesn't sound like they are interested in entertaining any plain language or traditional interpretation of prophecy.


Why the bitterness? This is quite a bit different from your kind words on Rikers thread. Thread: CHRISTIANS! Questions for you.....

In our last response to you we clearly stated:

"we will do our best to respond to all of your words, but it may take a couple of posts."

We have children (and two of them are the same age as yours)so this evening was fairly busy...

We will get back to the rest of your last response very soon- but please don't take it personal if we think that:

"traditional interpretation of prophecy" is the problem!...
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Bitterness? No, but then as much as you hack up my posts to ignore my arguments and post replies to contextually naked single sentences, I guess you feel it’s your prerogative to assign negative emotions to them as well.

At this point, I’ll admit to being frustrated at least. I did try to obtain your book so that I could get a whole picture of your thinking, but doing so through the contact page didn’t work and because I haven’t read it yet, the possibility of misunderstanding and wrong assumptions are growing with every post. I was apprehensive of clicking any donate button without more information than your brand new skeleton of a website has. That’s not a nock on the website, just an observation that it seems to be a work in progress that needs a basic “about us” button or bottom line summary of doctrine. Then I got sidetracked trying to put together responses to someone else’s post that I thought really required serious focus and prayer.

I did receive the attached book by email from you last night. I’ll check it out. At 150 pages, that’s going to take a bit of time. I am interest in hearing your theories. That’s one of the main reasons I am here at GLP. I am a watcher of sorts. That doesn’t mean I’ll agree with them, but I am willing to listen.

Big things are falling into place now and when the end comes, I don’t want to be stuck out in the rain like the people in Noah’s day. I want to be in the ark. The Antichrist, whoever that turns out to be and wherever he is from, will fool most of the world. He will be Mr. popular. People who don’t know how to recognize evil when they see it and do not know the voice of the Lord will fall under his spell.

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We are agreed that of Daniel’s 70 weeks, 69 have come and gone and that clock was suspended right? Why? The time of the Jews (the 70 weeks) was suspended and the time of the Gentiles began so that the Gospel of Jesus Christ could be spread throughout the whole world and to complete God’s plan for the full redemption of mankind.



Suspended? We do not agree with that. Where in the Bible does it say that the “clock would be suspended”?

We believe that 69 out of 70 “seven year periods” were concluded in 2005, and that we are now in Daniel’s Seventieth Seven – which will end in 2012.
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Suspended was a poor choice of words. The 70 weeks of Daniel as you know were divided into “seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens’.” And the final 70th week is the antichrists peace deal or covenant, “He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'”. So, suspended was not an accurate description. My apologies.

Full text of that scripture for those who don’t know.

Daniel 9:25-27
25 "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

So the show starts with verse 25. When was that decree? My understanding is that it was in 457 BC when Artaxerxes issued the decree to rebuild the temple. I believe there was a delay in when that decree was official, but I don’t have that reference book with me at the moment. Suffice it to say, that dates line up exactly with Jesus Christ, “The Anointed One will be cut off” of verse 26. That is the division of 7 weeks, 62 weeks, and the 70th week.

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As an example, I’m sure you are just as amused by the people who come up with mathematical equations and numerology to show how Ronald Wilson Regan was the Antichrist because the letters of his name add up to 666 when you apply Hebrew numerology to his English name. People have done this for years. Their math does add up, but it’s primarily because that is the result they went looking for in the first place. Remember the guy in the 80’s with is book “88 Reasons Why Christ Will Return in 1988”? The next year he had 89 reasons for that year and 90 the next.

The root problem and reason for failed interpretations of prophecy over and over and over is one of self centeredness. People are so self-absorbed that they think the whole world, past, present, and future, literally revolves around their culture. I’m sorry, but that is just not how it is.




You know absolutely nothing of our backgrounds, races, religions or nationalities. We do however believe that people are “self- absorbed” and think they understand Christ’s message.
Maybe you are not “self-absorbed” and maybe you would “turn the other cheek” if someone tried to invade your home.

39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 6)

Maybe you would never send your sons into battle, even if some foreigner attacked your beloved Tennessee; but you are the only one that can look into your own heart and answer these questions.

You, yourself have agreed that there are multiple “players” in Daniel and in Revelation, yet you seem quite confident that none of them have come and gone.
Your logic implies that because Reagan does not appear to have been one of the “anti-Christs”, then no future (or past) president could be.

You are implying that Satan will be much more obvious in how he takes control. You are implying that the US and all of the Americas are somehow exempt from the end-time activities.

We may be wrong- but we may be right; and you have not offered solid scriptural evidence to make any of your points.
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I have offered scriptural evidence. You just keep editing them out of my posts.

To say that I know nothing about my own background without the first clue of who I am or what I may have studied all the while editing out all of my referenced responses to that background is just directly insulting.

The straw man argument about turning the other cheek if someone were to invade my home, or whether or not I would send my son off to war is another good example of the difficulty of this conversation. It had nothing to do with interpreting the scripture at hand. It’s was practically an add homonym.

I get it. Satan bad. People fooled. World involved. Bible said so.

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The root problem and reason for failed interpretations of prophecy over and over and over is one of self centeredness. People are so self-absorbed that they think the whole world, past, present, and future, literally revolves around their culture. I’m sorry, but that is just not how it is.

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Resister,

We have found it necessary to pare down your posts because we are trying to get to your point and show you where we agree or disagree.

For example:
Above you implied that our interpretation of prophecy may be based on culture and self centeredness.

Our reply was that "You know absolutely nothing of our backgrounds, races, religions or nationalities.

We never said that "you know nothing of your own background".
That would be silly.
To the contrary we said that "you are the only one that can look into your heart and answer these questions."

Therefore we were not insulting you.

We have posted only a small portion of interpretations that are much different than anything you have ever been taught.

Unless you set aside many of your pre-conceived notions such as what you were taught regarding Daniel- You will not even begin to comprehend the lesson in the manuscript.

The recent quotes that we used from Jesus are very relevant because they are meant to help you see things from a new perspective



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The root problem and reason for failed interpretations of prophecy over and over and over is one of self centeredness. People are so self-absorbed that they think the whole world, past, present, and future, literally revolves around their culture. I’m sorry, but that is just not how it is.



Resister,

We have found it necessary to pare down your posts because we are trying to get to your point and show you where we agree or disagree.

For example:
Above you implied that our interpretation of prophecy may be based on culture and self centeredness.

Our reply was that "You know absolutely nothing of our backgrounds, races, religions or nationalities.


We never said that "you know nothing of your own background".
That would be silly.
To the contrary we said that "you are the only one that can look into your heart and answer these questions."

Therefore we were not insulting you.

We have posted only a small portion of interpretations that are much different than anything you have ever been taught.

Unless you set aside many of your pre-conceived notions such as what you were taught regarding Daniel- You will not even begin to comprehend the lesson in the manuscript.

The recent quotes that we used from Jesus are very relevant because they are meant to help you see things from a new perspective


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More examples of misunderstanding.

I did not mean to imply that your interpretations specifically were self centered. *AUGH* Context please! If you weren’t so busy editing my paragraphs you might have noticed that your conclusion was not mentioned in either that paragraph or the ones above or below it. I was generalizing on purpose. I haven’t even read your book yet to know what your full reasonings are and when I ask specific questions about how you reached those conclusions I get no answers.

I didn’t mention anything about your culture, race, or nationality. How would I know anything about that? I don’t know you… or this “we” you keep calling yourself. Because you had responded to my assertions of America’s basic origins and how they did not seem to fit your theory, I could only assume that your argument was that I was personally ignorant.

I’m kinda done with this. I will read your book and get back to you here when I can form an opinion based on it instead of your poor attempt at communication.

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...your poor attempt at communication.
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Resister,

You use lots of words and then slip in an insult such as the one above.

B. Obama did this on June 28, 2006- only his insult was toward God....

"If God has spoken, then followers are expected to live up to God's edicts... but to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing.”
-Barack Obama 6/28/06



And, this doesn't seem to bother you. Maybe you don't like it that we cut away all the fluff to expose what Obama was really saying.


Not only that, but you have posted thousands of words on this thread as if they were factual.

You may be "kinda done"- but we still need to go back and point out all of the areas where we disagree with you.

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Resister,

We don't mean to pick on you and we think you might be on the right track.

We also hope that our feedback is constructive...

Then I got sidetracked trying to put together responses to someone else’s post that I thought really required serious focus and prayer.

I am a watcher of sorts.
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Not sure why you need to tell us about your prayers. It may help if you keep these to yourself...

1"Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
... Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Prayer
5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men.
(Matthew 6)

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