Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition And ´Inside Job´ | |
Wul (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its like a bursting dam, a trickle will get through first, then slowly it will speed up till the whole thing bursts... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That´s right WUL, and then, my greatest hope, the guilty ones swinging from tall trees in the breeze. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Wul (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With a bit of luck Americans will restore sanity in your countries government and become friends with the world again! Dump the fascist Israeli´s and let them fend for themselves instead of controlling the USA as of now... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Dino1 (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow if this is the truth,Bush will be hung Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
flatbed (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has to come to light sooner or later. There are so many grey areas and scientific facts being overlooked. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with this viewpoint is the 911 event is governed by pretty well established physics, and it is difficult to fool smart people for long and consistantly. I know many people that have a serious problem with the governments story, ranging across at least a hundred issues with the various events that occurred. One of them has got to fly sometime.... This one will come out in the wash, almost sure of it, albiet may take some time. Also consider many foreign governments believe it was an inside job, and it is to their advantage to keep promoting this and their own agenda. This one has legs folks... Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess tha gables didnt count on a live TV camera crew broadcasting to the world being on the scene for all to see at the time of the demolition. Funny this particular footage was always cut short if repeated on TV since the event. |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right 9746. Can´t have people analyizing the video, especially the hit on the second tower. Looks to me like whoever or whatever was flying that plane exceeded the flight control parameters that are LOCKED OUT of the avionics package, to prevent a pilot from performing a 6g turn at 500 knots! Have seen posts on avionics boards from commercial airpline pilots stating the same... FWIW. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That sounds like an Israeli name, Mosear Caned. 911 Bogus Suspect List - Hani Hanjour Replaced ´Mosear Caned´ From Nico Haupt [email protected] 6-13-5 Kudos for this finding to ´RedSox´ aka Allan Wood, former research partner of Paul Thompson, who found this transcript today. --Nico On the morning of September 14, 2001, at about 10:11 am according to this CNN transcript, the official list of 18 hjackers was released. This list already proved, that they made up their suspects. Later it turned into 19, but the allgeded hijackers never showed up on any flight passenger list anyway. There is also another problem. Flight 77, which officially wasn´t listed in the BTS database, was linked to 5 suspects. However on Sep14th, the official hijacker pilot wasn´t Hani Hanjour, but someone named Mosear Caned (phonetic) . As Allan Wood pointed out today, "the phoentic spellings in the CNN transcript are a bit rough -- but they do match what was later released -- except "Mosear Caned" does not sound anything like "Hani Hanjour" !! Why was this "Caned" guy replaced by Hanjour? [link to www.team8plus.org] MainPage [link to www.rense.com] |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9746, yep. Mossad operation all the way with the standown of Norad run by the neocons. There was a highjacking simulation being run by Norad that day. I can see it now, Norad calls the whitehouse and says "WTF is going on?" (preimpact). The white house says "It´s part of the simulation! Now think about this. Don´t you think there are some pretty high up officers in Norad that are madder than a wet hen that they were duped? Bank on it. These guys have all the bombs. Food for thought. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right 1500. The next one will be a nuke or biological. The US gov talks long shit about terrorists everywhere, yet keeps our borders wide open for illegal immigration. How can we reconcile that? Where are all these bad ass SOB´s? I don´t see any! Me thinks we have been bamboozled. Must have another attack, so the sheeple buy more Chinese made american flags for " Operation Patriotism II". What a frickin´ joke. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
Unsure(c) Unplugged (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some facts demonstrating the flaws in the government jet fuel theory include: -- Photos showing people walking around in the hole in the North Tower where 10,000 gallons of jet fuel supposedly was burning.. ************************************************* Poor definition looks like people or drapes/blinds --When the South Tower was hit, most of the North Tower´s flames had already vanished, burning for only 16 minutes, making it relatively easy to contain and control without a total collapse. ************************************************* Eh? South/North and the fire is out after 16 minutes - brilliant safety design, did they use Halon or magic ? --The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating, indicating without added explosive devices the firs could have been easily controlled. ************************************************* Wow !! an office building with no paper, no wood, no floor coverings, no plastics, no paneling - no carbon based substances that would ignite given the other two of three required factors ie heat(flame or friction) and oxygen(never mind that there´s no glass left inthe windows or some of the wall is missing) --FDNY fire fighters still remain under a tight government gag order to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a similar 9/11 gag order. ************************************************ IF and a BIG IF, this is so, then how do you know this fact ??? --Even the flawed 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges that "none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible." ************************************************ Possibly true, but i bet they also never believed both towers would be struck by commercial jet planes either -- Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11. ************************************************ Don´t recall any other jet plane strikes since and the design of towers quite unique so not really plausible - oh and wtc7 back up generators fuel tanks never existed or leaked ok -- The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were relatively small. ************************************************ By what standard a bush fire ??? also now it´s the south tower with the alleged small fire where previously it was the north -- WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds. ************************************************ Yes but dirty great bits of a neighbouring burning tower or two happened to fall through it !!!!!!! -- WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams. ************************************************ How did they catch fire in first place ? maybe only small falling bits from the "relatively small" fires elsewhere -- In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder, told the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 that. "may be the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it. ************************************************ Talking about the fire crew trying to fight the " minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors" and not wishing to risk any further lives for the sake of property. -- It´s difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting. ************************************************ Red herring alert !!!!! the structure and design of the WTC towers did nnot require ANY melting steel to occur. Simple heating of metal to level where the load bearing properties were compromised led to the collapse. Oh and i forgot that the ONLY thing burning was the jet fuel no other inflamible substances were available. ( Unlike the Madrid tower block which only partly collapsed due to BENDING steel effected by office furniture etc - oh and wasn´t hit by a plane - oh and wasn´t the mass tonnage of the wtc - oh and had differant design....... Why doesn´t anyone go trace the wreckage ?? not all the steel will be melted down yet - the fabric will be landfill so go take samples, find the blast residue of the (fill in your own fantsy number of remote control devices) of explosives used in the 1,2 or three buildings. This isn´t a woo woo subject but a weeping sore that the Bushco haters will return to in 10 or 20 years time with the same misquotes and halve-truths still believing the conspiracy than what people reported. Sad thing is these people doon´t realise that when the shrub is gone and Arnie or Hillary are sitting in the whitehouse that the very same staff will be there, as will all the agents, the supervisors and the cleaners and clerks that are the actual American gov. - will they still be bad guys or suddenly goodies ??? Unsure(c) why ? Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahh, an ankle biting debunker. Welcome. Just a few questions if I may sir: Please explain the sequence of events that led to WTC7 collapsing. What, sympathetic siesmic waves from the towers collapsing that shook the building apart? Come now, I am all ears! Please explain how you get a commercial jet liner all the way on the inside to impact the Pentagon? I personnally know fighter pilots (retired from flying, one is a General in the Air Force). You can´t fly your pet homing pigeon in that airspace, and you expect me to believe someone got a jet all the way on the inside that just happens to hit the part of the Pentagon that was UNDER CONSTRUCTION? Seems to me if I wanted to crash a plane in the Pentagon I would go for the inner rings, that´s where all the high ranking brass are, and this info is in the public domain. Come now debunker, please reconcile these rather troubling events. Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |
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Omega (OP) 12/08/2005 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone PM Doc P to this thread. Lets get this party rolling! Come on Doc P-time to square up! Omega Handguns are a skill; shotguns an art; rifles a science. _____________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner. Disarmament is the precursor to Genocide. Better to take action now rather than chances later. Your choice. |