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I'm getting a new laptop for schooling purposes. Taking into account that I have $1200 to work with, my questions deal with the processor and RAM.

I'll be attending online college, with multi-tasking being a BIG part of it's use. I'll be having online presentations of classroom lectures to watch, as well as taking notes. I'll be using Word, Power Point, and Excel quite a bit. During the course of my degree, I'm sure I'll also have to make a video when I take speech and perhaps other classes?

My first question is, what processor do I need/which one is the best suited for my needs?

~Intel Core i-3 or i-5
~Triple Core
~Quad Core

- Which is better, Intel or AMD? I've got more experience with Intel, and have not had any significant problems with it. Hubby's desktop runs an AMD 64 Athlon x2, which seems to freeze up even when he's playing his facebook poker.

My second question is, what size RAM do you suggest? I've been thinking about 4GB DDR3...would this be over the top, or ideal?

Third, the hard drive. I'm thinking of 500GB SATA (with 7200rpm vs 5400rpm). Does it REALLY make much difference, considering what it'll be used for? I'd love to go with a solid state, but they are more than I can realistically afford.

I'm thinking I only need an integrated graphics card...the standard?

I'm looking at minimum of a 15" screen, up to an 18". I had a Toshiba laptop (that my son broke on me), which had awesome sound and picture. My other laptop is a Dell Inspiron, which I've been more than pleased with, but when it comes to multi-tasking, it's a bit slow. It takes FOREVER for vids to load, for Office applications to load, etc. Our desktops are Dells, and have had no problems other than hubby's has VISTA and it SUCKS! Also, his freezes up on him. I really don't want to go with HP or Compaq.

I do NOT want face recognition or fingerprint whatever. I don't even care if it has a webcam (I never use a cam, and really don't trust them not being accessible to "outsiders" peeping in unexpectedly).

I'm taking off for a bit, but will check back when we get home. Thank you

Btw, it HAS to be a laptop, because I can rest my wrists right on the platform. I am not able to support my wrists in the air on a desktop. Whatever is wrong with me prohibits my using a desktop due to the strain.
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MacBook Pro 15"...the only computer you'll ever need
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spend a few bucks more and buy Apple...


you will not be disappointed
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for 1,200 you will be able to pick up a beast of a machine if you look around - check slickdeals.net

Intel over AMD - Quad core if you can afford it within budget

4GB DDR3 RAM is standard for $1,200 - expect nothing less

500GB is also standard at that price range

again, you should be able to pick something up with a dedicated nVidia video card paired with Intel or ATI paired with AMD for $1200 and is always recommended over integrated/shared.
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Lenovo IdeaPad Y560 06462BU - Black ,Intel Core i7-720QM Quad-Core 15.6in Laptop (8GB/500GB/Radeon HD5730) $999

[link to www3.slickdeals.net]

I owned a Lenovo and at my last job at a reputable IT Consulting company in SF they were widely sold and liked. Their warranty service from your door to them back is painless and they pay for all S&H - + it was a quick turnaround.
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Scratch this Lenovo - this particular model seems to have know display issues. but if you aren't in a hurry monitor the hot deals section on Slickdeals and go with a hp, toshiba or another lenovo that has good reviews. you can filter the results by clicking on the system icon on the bottom of the hot deals section. happy hunting :)
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read reviews on particular laptops using newegg, amazon and google. gateway and dell are generally the worst imo, hp-compaq/ibm-lenovo/toshiba seem to be pretty solid though it seems that the overall build quality on the sub $500 laptops has greatly declined over the past year or so. i wouldn't be surprised if the same is for the higher end models - cutting corners for more profit!
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Gateway NV5378U Refurbished Notebook PC - AMD Athlon II X2 M300 2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.6" LED, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit



sounds to me like this will do everything you will ever need.. and gee all for 400 bucks.... now go to the mall and get some new shoes....

[link to www.tigerdirect.com]

I have personally bought a few things from them and they are very easy to deal with. Fast shipping. Best prices around usually.

I have a refurbished HP laptop that I got for around 600 from them and its pretty nice. Could be better for games, but not like i spent 1200 on it.
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friend has a gateway that is falling apart and is within a year

not the greatest manufacturer under the sun, look it up for yourself :)
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macbook pro. no doubt about it.
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oh.. and gateway doesnt even really exist anymore. Im pretty sure acer bought the company and the name and has been pumping out shit for the last few years. gateway=acer=crap.
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Buy a cheap one.
Walmart had notebooks with 3 gigs of ram starting at $328 last weekend.
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friend has a gateway that is falling apart and is within a year

not the greatest manufacturer under the sun, look it up for yourself :)
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Gateway was recently purchased entirely by Acer.
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friend has a gateway that is falling apart and is within a year

not the greatest manufacturer under the sun, look it up for yourself :)
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One out of 10 Dell computers arrive DEAD.
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MacBook Pro 15"...the only computer you'll ever need
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This, this, this!

And the display is gorgeous. I know because I own one :-)
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7200rpm vs 5400rpm will make a huge difference to battery life.
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MacBook Pro 15"...the only computer you'll ever need


This, this, this!

And the display is gorgeous. I know because I own one :-)
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I should add, once you get your student ID you'll get a good discount at the bookstore--which is where I got mine.
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Acer is the largest manufacturer of computers on Earth.
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I'm getting a new laptop for schooling purposes. Taking into account that I have $1200 to work with, my questions deal with the processor and RAM.

I'll be attending online college, with multi-tasking being a BIG part of it's use. I'll be having online presentations of classroom lectures to watch, as well as taking notes. I'll be using Word, Power Point, and Excel quite a bit. During the course of my degree, I'm sure I'll also have to make a video when I take speech and perhaps other classes?

My first question is, what processor do I need/which one is the best suited for my needs?

~Intel Core i-3 or i-5
~Triple Core
~Quad Core

- Which is better, Intel or AMD? I've got more experience with Intel, and have not had any significant problems with it. Hubby's desktop runs an AMD 64 Athlon x2, which seems to freeze up even when he's playing his facebook poker.

My second question is, what size RAM do you suggest? I've been thinking about 4GB DDR3...would this be over the top, or ideal?

Third, the hard drive. I'm thinking of 500GB SATA (with 7200rpm vs 5400rpm). Does it REALLY make much difference, considering what it'll be used for? I'd love to go with a solid state, but they are more than I can realistically afford.

I'm thinking I only need an integrated graphics card...the standard?

I'm looking at minimum of a 15" screen, up to an 18". I had a Toshiba laptop (that my son broke on me), which had awesome sound and picture. My other laptop is a Dell Inspiron, which I've been more than pleased with, but when it comes to multi-tasking, it's a bit slow. It takes FOREVER for vids to load, for Office applications to load, etc. Our desktops are Dells, and have had no problems other than hubby's has VISTA and it SUCKS! Also, his freezes up on him. I really don't want to go with HP or Compaq.

I do NOT want face recognition or fingerprint whatever. I don't even care if it has a webcam (I never use a cam, and really don't trust them not being accessible to "outsiders" peeping in unexpectedly).

I'm taking off for a bit, but will check back when we get home. Thank you

Btw, it HAS to be a laptop, because I can rest my wrists right on the platform. I am not able to support my wrists in the air on a desktop. Whatever is wrong with me prohibits my using a desktop due to the strain.
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You are shooting too high and too expensive.
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Skip college. You'll never get a job in this market and it's only going to get worse. Take your money and buy weapons, ammo and food.
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I also have a acer, bout a year an a half old. thing has fallen off the couch, had shit spilled on it. its beat to hell and still runs pretty decent. could use more memory.

also have a toshiba that gets taken care of other than light spills, it hasnt had it to rough.


Electronics are mass produced, with a very high acceptable failure rate. It is cheaper to send out a few new ones then to use better components. A cheap capacitor can cost .05, a high quality can cost .50 or more(just an example). Thats not a big deal when you build a couple of one off pieces, but when you need to buy a million or two thats a huge difference. Now multiply that by the number of components, and you can see how a typical laptop of exacting standards, could cost 3500.00 or more. if you look online, you can find them.


Now we are back to buying a cheap Lapytop that will do what you need for a while. and the difference between a $1200 laptop and a $4-600.00 is not that big a deal. especially considering the OP is asking on GLP for Puter advice...
That tells me they are not exactly a power user...

So OP take it for what its worth. 5 or 6 years ago you would have dropped a 1200 any laptop that would check email.
Dont even bother trying to get the latest greatest laptop, it really wont matter. If you cant keep it running right, youll end up with a 1200 paper weight.
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Oh yeah, you wont even notice the difference between, Intel/AMD, Nvidea/ATI, or high priced sound cards. Its a laptop.

I do suggest getting the BEST GRAPHICS CARD YOU CAN AFFORD. and the MOST MEMORY you can afford. those are by far, the best 2 quality's to look for.

read internet revies, but dont get bogged down by them. just look for any major issues with the model your looking at.

dont worry about someone saying "when i stand on my head, the monitor looks fuzzy". some people are just to critical. they should go into politics, theyll never get anything done worth while...
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MacBook Pro 15"...the only computer you'll ever need
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Wish I could afford one of those, but I can't. My limit is $1200, which MUST include a minimum of a 3 year, all service warranty.

But thanks for the suggestion anyways.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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Run Linux, its much better than Microscrap.
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for 1,200 you will be able to pick up a beast of a machine if you look around - check slickdeals.net

Intel over AMD - Quad core if you can afford it within budget

4GB DDR3 RAM is standard for $1,200 - expect nothing less

500GB is also standard at that price range

again, you should be able to pick something up with a dedicated nVidia video card paired with Intel or ATI paired with AMD for $1200 and is always recommended over integrated/shared.
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Thanks much.

When I got this laptop (a bday present from my dad), it was considered top of the line. But that was many years ago. It's a Dell w/ Intel Core2 Duo, T5250 @ 1.50GHz, 986MHz, with 0.99 GB of Ram. I really like this laptop, and have had ZERO problems with it, other than with the multi-tasking I'm going to be doing, it'll be a bit too slow.

Thanks again!
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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read reviews on particular laptops using newegg, amazon and google. gateway and dell are generally the worst imo, hp-compaq/ibm-lenovo/toshiba seem to be pretty solid though it seems that the overall build quality on the sub $500 laptops has greatly declined over the past year or so. i wouldn't be surprised if the same is for the higher end models - cutting corners for more profit!
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Thanks, I'll keep an eye out on Slick Deals. I'm not in a great big hurry...as for the 1st semester, my classes aren't too demanding.

I really have been pleased with our Dells, seems I got lucky with some good machines?

My one Toshiba laptop I had I really, really liked. I was looking at a couple of their laptops, and found some I liked. That new Qosmio is a sleek looking powerhouse, or so it seems?

Thanks again.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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Gateway NV5378U Refurbished Notebook PC - AMD Athlon II X2 M300 2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 500GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.6" LED, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit



sounds to me like this will do everything you will ever need.. and gee all for 400 bucks.... now go to the mall and get some new shoes....

[link to www.tigerdirect.com]

I have personally bought a few things from them and they are very easy to deal with. Fast shipping. Best prices around usually.

I have a refurbished HP laptop that I got for around 600 from them and its pretty nice. Could be better for games, but not like i spent 1200 on it.
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I would never get a Gateway again. We had a desktop (back in 1999) and was pleased with it, until about 3 weeks before the warranty was up. I brought my computer in to be fixed (over 40 miles away), as the fan stopped working, and it was really doing some weird stuff (shutting down while in the middle of doing something). They called about 12 days later, and I went to pick it up. I got the computer home, but didn't have the time to hook it up and try it, as we leaving on a long-time planned trip for 6 days. When we got home, the next day I hooked it up, and ran it, it still kept shutting down when doing something. I called the repair facility, and they told me to bring it back. At this point, we just had a couple days left under warrant. After I got up there, they told me it would take them 5 days before they could even look at it, which would put us OUT of our warranty time. I told them I brought it to them BEFORE warranty was up...they just shrugged. I asked what it was going to cost...since they SAID they fixed it the time before, and they said it would probably be around the $500 mark.

Needless to say, I took my computer back home and told them to FO! I also called Gateway Customer Service, and told them I would NEVER buy anything from them again...and I meant it.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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friend has a gateway that is falling apart and is within a year

not the greatest manufacturer under the sun, look it up for yourself :)


One out of 10 Dell computers arrive DEAD.
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My hubby's Dell only had one issue...it kept going to blue screen, so I called them. All that was the problem was that I had to take the side panel off, and pop out the memory cards, then reset them into place. Seems that during shipping, the memory cards can come loose (not locked in all the way). It was no big deal.

Otherwise, with 3 computers from them, we've never had a problem (other than the one with Vista and AMD...which I hope to get to upgrade it to Windows 7). I don't think the problems are so much as Dell manufacturer related, but rather, with Vista and AMD itself.

And I've read elsewhere that regardless of manufacturer, it's a known given that 10% of ALL computers are lemons?
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH YOU LAZY SACK OF CRAP!
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Wish I could afford one of those, but I can't. My limit is $1200, which MUST include a minimum of a 3 year, all service warranty.

But thanks for the suggestion anyways.
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Understood. If you were one of the students I work with I would suggest a Dell. The 3 year warranty is worth it. All of our PC stuff is Dell because I insist (I'm the SysAdmin) on having a good (in my case four-hour response) warranty service. I would also suggest you figure in a backup drive. USB2 is fine and they are cheap.

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