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Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?

 
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Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
To make the those with disadvantages in life suffer more.
To kill off those, slowly, who were not born into wealth?
Organic=less pesticde=less money/(you would think)less energy.

Commercially Grown=More energy overall-least nutritious.

Why? Why would you do this to other people. Because they are the OTHERS?
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because they make most people believe that certain foods are healthy and certain ones not. the human body knows no difference but the mind will control it and what is put in the mind but repetition. it is called merchandizing humans for gain.
If you don't have control of your mind.....someone else will!
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
It's not just the food, try buying deodorants, shampoos and cleaning supplies without harmful chemicals--3x the price!

Seems the more chemicals they cram into it, the cheaper it is.

If your living on a serious budget, your almost forced to buy the harmful crap.
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I'm finding this to not be true. The wife and I have started eating a lot better. More fresh veggies, grain fed poultry, locally grown shit when we can get it, all that. I've found our grocery bill has actually gone down in the last few months. I've always heard that eating well and healthier is more expensive, but that is not what I have experienced.

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The trick is to avoid "health food" stores that are just trying to make you feel trendy and then charge you more.

There is a little market near our house, we can buy 9 bags of locally-grown/produced groceries for about $11. Independently-owned.

Search around, these places do exist.
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
Our stomaches aren't a hole to just throw things into and call that stuff "food".

If you eat healthfully, you don't spend as much.

Why?

Because the reason people SHOULD HUNGER, is for NUTRITION. Fulfill that nutrition with healhful foods, and your body doesn't ask you to feed it NUTRITION.

The more junk you throw in, the more your body craves, because it is nutritionally starved.
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Our stomaches aren't a hole to just throw things into and call that stuff "food".

If you eat healthfully, you don't spend as much.

Why?

Because the reason people SHOULD HUNGER, is for NUTRITION. Fulfill that nutrition with healhful foods, and your body doesn't ask you to feed it NUTRITION.

The more junk you throw in, the more your body craves, because it is nutritionally starved.
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Good post. I think fat people are starving for micro-nutrients.
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so what's the reason many have lived and been healthy unto their late 90's? oh yeah the deception that is genetic? lol it is all mind play and always has been.
If you don't have control of your mind.....someone else will!
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It's the trans fat and sugar.

I switched to fresh local produce, fish and meat. No processed foods and free well water.

NEVER EAT BETTER OR CHEAPER IN MY LIFE.
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Studies have shown that there is no significant advantage to buying "organic":

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

I am of the mind that places like Whole Foods and other purveyors are there simply to fleece the pockets of people with more money than brains.

If it were not for GMOs and modern agriculture technology ALL food would cost far more than it does now, BTW.
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Higher prices are due to more expensive farming practices, tighter government regulations and lower crop yields. Organic farmers use methods to control weeds and pests that are labor intensive and more expensive than herbicides or pesticides, and that can drive up cost.


[link to www.latimes.com]

Besides that, soylent green is cheap, because it's beeple, soylent green is beeple
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
To make the those with disadvantages in life suffer more.
To kill off those, slowly, who were not born into wealth?
Organic=less pesticde=less money/(you would think)less energy.

Commercially Grown=More energy overall-least nutritious.

Why? Why would you do this to other people. Because they are the OTHERS?
 Quoting: >esper


All commercial food is poison. It keeps the masses drugged , dumbed down within low energy levels.

I'm not very far from achieving a breatharian state (non eating) and I can assure you that I've become sensible enough to instantly feel my vibration going down the moment I ingest something. Last time I ate fish (a few months ago) I got bed ridden with god knows what. All food causes some sort of intoxication on your body the moment you swallow it.. It is only a matter of time and of sensibility. The problem is that most people are simply too "comfortably numb" to feel anything and correlate the symptoms they get to what they eat. They think that diseases are a product of abstract forces of nature... and it has nothing to do with their daily habits.

This is why "healthier" (less processed) food is harder to find. Healthier food is actually less food in terms of energetic density (how much "heavy" the energies from the food are -> metaphysics). When you eat a portion of healthy food, you are actually eating less that you normally do.

From a strict spiritual perspective, all food is poison, even fruits.

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99% of all health problems are caused by food. 99% of all societal problems involve food directly or indirectly. Food is the greatest drug in humanity's history. It plays a key role in keeping humanity down in terms of consciousness development. I can assure that all of your life problems have to do with what you eat. Your problems ARE what you eat.
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because they make most people believe that certain foods are healthy and certain ones not. the human body knows no difference but the mind will control it and what is put in the mind but repetition. it is called merchandizing humans for gain.
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Beautiful point!:)
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The old bait and switch...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
To make the those with disadvantages in life suffer more.
To kill off those, slowly, who were not born into wealth?
Organic=less pesticde=less money/(you would think)less energy.

Commercially Grown=More energy overall-least nutritious.

Why? Why would you do this to other people. Because they are the OTHERS?
 Quoting: >esper

more pesticide, less work
less pesticide, more work

you got it backward bubb and you should probably do some more research before you complain about the price of organic food

it is more labor intensive to grow organically because then you have more hours of manual pest removal instead of just spraying shit all over it
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
The trick is to avoid "health food" stores that are just trying to make you feel trendy and then charge you more.

There is a little market near our house, we can buy 9 bags of locally-grown/produced groceries for about $11. Independently-owned.

Search around, these places do exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976618


There are few locally grown groceries nearby. This makes it difficult. I live right down the street from a Cental Market (it is an offshoot of HEB that went independant) It is somewhat like Wholefoods. These two store are very competitive, especially since they are both native to this region.
I believe the proximity of the two stores,(they are both within a two mile radius) enables them to price gouge consumers.
I have to fluctuate between them both on a nearly daily basis since I like my food fresh. Wholefoods for deionized water,GradeB maple syrup,---that's it. And Central Market for just about everything else.
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
The trick is to avoid "health food" stores that are just trying to make you feel trendy and then charge you more.

There is a little market near our house, we can buy 9 bags of locally-grown/produced groceries for about $11. Independently-owned.

Search around, these places do exist.


There are few locally grown groceries nearby. This makes it difficult. I live right down the street from a Cental Market (it is an offshoot of HEB that went independant) It is somewhat like Wholefoods. These two store are very competitive, especially since they are both native to this region.
I believe the proximity of the two stores,(they are both within a two mile radius) enables them to price gouge consumers.
I have to fluctuate between them both on a nearly daily basis since I like my food fresh. Wholefoods for deionized water,GradeB maple syrup,---that's it. And Central Market for just about everything else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067223


Yeah.... Central market gets a great majority of their stuff from the same suppliers as HEB, so in essence the yups are just paying more due to the marketing.

But hey if you feel like you are eating more "healthy" because you shop where a higher social economic group shops (Thats what it is really about) thats cool.
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The trick is to avoid "health food" stores that are just trying to make you feel trendy and then charge you more.

There is a little market near our house, we can buy 9 bags of locally-grown/produced groceries for about $11. Independently-owned.

Search around, these places do exist.


There are few locally grown groceries nearby. This makes it difficult. I live right down the street from a Cental Market (it is an offshoot of HEB that went independant) It is somewhat like Wholefoods. These two store are very competitive, especially since they are both native to this region.
I believe the proximity of the two stores,(they are both within a two mile radius) enables them to price gouge consumers.
I have to fluctuate between them both on a nearly daily basis since I like my food fresh. Wholefoods for deionized water,GradeB maple syrup,---that's it. And Central Market for just about everything else.


Yeah.... Central market gets a great majority of their stuff from the same suppliers as HEB, so in essence the yups are just paying more due to the marketing.

But hey if you feel like you are eating more "healthy" because you shop where a higher social economic group shops (Thats what it is really about) thats cool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1075409

That is not my argument, but I can see your point.
When it comes to vegetables and certain meats they are similar. The advantage of, as you say, 'yuppy' shopping
is they Central Market offers merchandize that HEB could never sell to the mainstream. Earcandles. Organic this and that. Fresk baked no preservative breads. Cool beers and wines..etc. etc.
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Re: Why Should We have to Spend More Money For Healthier Food?
To make the those with disadvantages in life suffer more.
To kill off those, slowly, who were not born into wealth?
Organic=less pesticde=less money/(you would think)less energy.

Commercially Grown=More energy overall-least nutritious.

Why? Why would you do this to other people. Because they are the OTHERS?

more pesticide, less work
less pesticide, more work

you got it backward bubb and you should probably do some more research before you complain about the price of organic food

it is more labor intensive to grow organically because then you have more hours of manual pest removal instead of just spraying shit all over it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1075699



Ha! A good IPM schedule does NOT mean "manual pest removal"
spraying is NOT the sole management of ANY farming practices
We'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.
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I agree with (op). how can you charge more for what you DON'T put in?!
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.
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I'm confused - how is pulling weeds or watering deemed to be non- organic?
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That's life in the big, my dear.

The way it's always been, here in the 3rd dimension reality of earth.
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It's the trans fat and sugar.

I switched to fresh local produce, fish and meat. No processed foods and free well water.

NEVER EAT BETTER OR CHEAPER IN MY LIFE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1075286

Only if more people did this...
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We have to pay for all that bisphenol A they are lineing our food and drink containers with. Lots more expensive than tin, you know. Besides we even have to support the drinkers, as they have to line all the aluminum beer cans with the stuff to get full coverage of the population.
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.
 Quoting: Faith

It seems you are always on my case. ?. I have done it all!
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.



I'm confused - how is pulling weeds or watering deemed to be non- organic?
 Quoting: Transmundane


Farmers often use herbicides as well as pesticides. So, if you are not using chemicals, you are pulling weeds. Watering is a fine line...if a farmer pulls a lot of water out of the Ogallala Aquifer, for instance (which is being depleted and is not sustainable for heavy long-term irrigation), is he being a good steward of the land? Would you eat food which you knew was being watered through such measures? Of course, he could pull it from the nearest river and risk fecal contamination...
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.

It seems you are always on my case. ?. I have done it all!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1067223



I'm on your case? Ooops, sorry. hf
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LOL

OP, why don't you go out and hand-spade a plot of ground, plant some seeds, and try to grow them without pesticides, a fence, pulling weeds, or watering your crop and see what you end up with.
 Quoting: Faith


LOL

Faith, your stomach IS outright flabby. It is a troll even in the sense-oriented world, so limit yourself accordingly. Please.
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Very loical obesrvation on the part of OP.

Realizing that common sense is not common anymore, I want to bring YOUR attention once more to the logic of the post. At hand.

Why would you need to pay more for the healthier, NATURAL type of nutrition? If you dont get it you must hold US type of passport, first thing that comes to mind, or are on similar intellectual level of development I guess, because it really baffles me. Think again, do you need to pay more for the most natural source of things you eat? It naturality, it would create the economic environment that is at present replaced by the GMO commercial agriculture econmy, that would create much more good to humanity (as some would like to term society) that in term would be as cost effective as some argue the present GMO industry stimulated market does.

Just think for yourself, I know the more pressure the more resistance, but why resist common sense?

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