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Do ask what you like about the details of propehecy, but do consider that you first need a fundamental understanding of the scenario of upcoming events.

For rather than haggling about specific verses, all serious prophecy searchers should know the basics.

Starting at Daniel 2, then maybe 7,8, and then the basic 7 year timeline from Daniel 9. For then you would have a viable worling timeline in which to put the events of Daniel 11, and Revelation and all the other prophetic verses and chapters of the Old Testament.

The scenario of events is

Mid East War
Covenant Signing
Sacrificing on the Mount
Rise of AC
Nuclear War - Great Whore falls
AC eneters Temple, Great Trib starts
7 Trumpets - 2 Christian Witnesses
Lord's return
Marriage Supper
7 vials of Wrath
Battle of Armegeddon

With this basic pattern, then all other details and verses can make sense

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PS) I have been a full time independant missionary since graduating from University, and thankfully am not attched to the church system.

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i think the tribulation comes in two parts, there is tribulation and great tribulation. the tribulation begins with the peace treaty after the mid east war, israel gets their sacrifices but God always has prophets when his temple is in play, and the two witnesses prophesy. this will also of course reveal the a/c but many will fall under his disillusionment/spell, save the very elect.

america is in the process of the end times but not how one would think. it will suffer much and the a/c will use americas demise as grounds to prove to the world that scripture has been fulfilled and that he is here for the 1000 year reign. he is given power to make war with the saints, america is the only christian nation, and america is a rebellious lot, full of pride, perhaps to much to bow down to a world leader. you say nwo, and people are likely to pull their hog leg out ready for a fight. because of this, everyone will say peace, peace, yet there will be war. he thinks he must have rule of order and law, as all governing authorities do. and america has to many weapons lying around that can fall into the wrong hands, threats must be dealt with by a new government or regime. as it tends to either make them look bad or threatened.

people through out history have taken it upon themselves to self fulfill prophecy, know what i mean? he doesnt really believe in the bible, but thinks to use it for good and in turn damns himself. like Judas perhaps? trying to force the hand of God? he fulfills the prophetic but only cause he doesnt trully believe and desires to unite the people by any means possible. the boogey man is not the boogeyman he is portrayed to be, he is a humanist who thinks to to good. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it is not the spirit of God leading him but rather a religious entity. in the process he loses himself and thinks of himself as god but unlike his predeccessors, on a world scale. because he is drunken with power.

towards the middle he is fully consumed, he kills the 2 witnesses and then defiles the temple, which brings upon the earth the second half of the trib, the great tribulation. this is where the Fathers anger goes up into his face, this is when men become more precious than gold.

as to a rapture? this is always going to be an arguing point because all three views can be derived. but in my personal view, right before the trumpet blows, john asks who are all of these, and is told, these are the ones taken out of the great tribulation, which would correspond to Jesus saving his people from the Fathers wrath. im thinking they as well as the 2 witnesses are plucked up at the same time, first the dead, and then the living. and i am think there is another gathering as well, in megiddo, where the corrupt kill each other off perhaps?

the meek inherit the earth, and for a thousand years Jesus rules over them.........


well, its all interpretation and speculation, always is. feel free to stab holes in it. stab enough holes and ill go back to the drawing board yet again.

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i think the tribulation comes in two parts, there is tribulation and great tribulation. the tribulation begins with the peace treaty after the mid east war, israel gets their sacrifices but God always has prophets when his temple is in play, and the two witnesses prophesy. this will also of course reveal the a/c but many will fall under his disillusionment/spell, save the very elect.

america is in the process of the end times but not how one would think. it will suffer much and the a/c will use americas demise as grounds to prove to the world that scripture has been fulfilled and that he is here for the 1000 year reign. he is given power to make war with the saints, america is the only christian nation, and america is a rebellious lot, full of pride, perhaps to much to bow down to a world leader. you say nwo, and people are likely to pull their hog leg out ready for a fight. because of this, everyone will say peace, peace, yet there will be war. he thinks he must have rule of order and law, as all governing authorities do. and america has to many weapons lying around that can fall into the wrong hands, threats must be dealt with by a new government or regime. as it tends to either make them look bad or threatened.

people through out history have taken it upon themselves to self fulfill prophecy, know what i mean? he doesnt really believe in the bible, but thinks to use it for good and in turn damns himself. like Judas perhaps? trying to force the hand of God? he fulfills the prophetic but only cause he doesnt trully believe and desires to unite the people by any means possible. the boogey man is not the boogeyman he is portrayed to be, he is a humanist who thinks to to good. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it is not the spirit of God leading him but rather a religious entity. in the process he loses himself and thinks of himself as god but unlike his predeccessors, on a world scale. because he is drunken with power.

towards the middle he is fully consumed, he kills the 2 witnesses and then defiles the temple, which brings upon the earth the second half of the trib, the great tribulation. this is where the Fathers anger goes up into his face, this is when men become more precious than gold.

as to a rapture? this is always going to be an arguing point because all three views can be derived. but in my personal view, right before the trumpet blows, john asks who are all of these, and is told, these are the ones taken out of the great tribulation, which would correspond to Jesus saving his people from the Fathers wrath. im thinking they as well as the 2 witnesses are plucked up at the same time, first the dead, and then the living. and i am think there is another gathering as well, in megiddo, where the corrupt kill each other off perhaps?

the meek inherit the earth, and for a thousand years Jesus rules over them.........


well, its all interpretation and speculation, always is. feel free to stab holes in it. stab enough holes and ill go back to the drawing board yet again.

Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Whoa, amazing a humble Christian, working honorably on prophecy.

Well done Gideon, and great great Name

And no you are pretty well grounded, just a few errors in my opinion...... that you can check out discern and pray about.

Lets start... two tribulations..OK but it is semantics.

Some say the last 3.5 years is the Tribulation and the first part the Plastic Peace.... some say as you do it is diviided and named trib then Great Trib.

Either way as long as brethren understand the scenario of events.

So then you wrote that the AC killed the 2 Witnesses at the start of the great Tribulation...... NOT SO< that is easy to comprehend because our 2 Christian leaders, our Boaz and Joachin die on the steps of the Temple and lie there for 3.5 DAYS and then they are resurrected.... the Resurrection comes at the END of the Great Tribulation at the End of the LAST 7 years...

OH NO< this might mean you have got your rapture wrong....lets check
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america is in the process of the end times but not how one would think. it will suffer much and the a/c will use americas demise as grounds to prove to the world that scripture has been fulfilled and that he is here for the 1000 year reign. he is given power to make war with the saints, america is the only christian nation, America is as vile as hell and the cage of every foul bird and devil..she is the whore, and she is destroyed before the Great Tribulation so that the AC can march to Jerusalem and set up his MARK for the GT) and america is a rebellious lot, full of pride, perhaps to much to bow down to a world leader. you say nwo, and people are likely to pull their hog leg out ready for a fight. because of this, everyone will say peace, peace, yet there will be war. he thinks he must have rule of order and law, as all governing authorities do. and america has to many weapons lying around that can fall into the wrong hands, threats must be dealt with by a new government or regime. as it tends to either make them look bad or threatened.(NO, America is nuked before the GT. Rev 17,18, she is no more, and is not mentined further and goes into chaos as she has lead countries into war and chaos)

people through out history have taken it upon themselves to self fulfill prophecy, know what i mean? he doesnt really believe in the bible, but thinks to use it for good and in turn damns himself. like Judas perhaps? trying to force the hand of God? he fulfills the prophetic but only cause he doesnt trully believe and desires to unite the people by any means possible. the boogey man is not the boogeyman he is portrayed to be, he is a humanist who thinks to to good. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it is not the spirit of God leading him but rather a religious entity. in the process he loses himself and thinks of himself as god but unlike his predeccessors, on a world scale. because he is drunken with power.

towards the middle he is fully consumed, he kills the 2 witnesses and then defiles the temple, (NO the 2 prophets lead the Lord's people away from Jerusalem to Petra as the Lord said..They return to deliever the trumpets and then get killed on their seventh return)

which brings upon the earth the second half of the trib, the great tribulation. this is where the Fathers anger goes up into his face, this is when men become more precious than gold.Say Jesus not the Father..... as the lord leads us and Jesus and the father are one. And no we are not scatterred but gathered, we are the 144,000, the Bride of Christ)

as to a rapture? this is always going to be an arguing point because all three views can be derived. but in my personal view, right before the trumpet blows, john asks who are all of these, and is told, these are the ones taken out of the great tribulation, which would correspond to Jesus saving his people from the Fathers wrath. im thinking they as well as the 2 witnesses are plucked up at the same time, first the dead, and then the living. and i am think there is another gathering as well, in megiddo, where the corrupt kill each other off perhaps? (SEE your error now you are sying that the 2 die now at the end, which is correct before you said at the start.... We fight and serve the Lord all the way through the GT, its the most inspiring time of all times, the time when all wanted to live.

[link to davidjayjordan.com]

the meek inherit the earth, and for a thousand years Jesus rules over them.........


well, its all interpretation and speculation, always is. feel free to stab holes in it. stab enough holes and ill go back to the drawing board yet again. (Just realise that the Wrath of God is different than the GT. Wrath is 45 days, the GT preceeds it and is 1260 Dyas, The GT has seven trumpets that are different than the seven vials... the last trumpet being Jesus in the clouds the last vial being Armeggeddon, Jesus coming down from the clouds
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i think the tribulation comes in two parts, there is tribulation and great tribulation. the tribulation begins with the peace treaty after the mid east war, israel gets their sacrifices but God always has prophets when his temple is in play, and the two witnesses prophesy. this will also of course reveal the a/c but many will fall under his disillusionment/spell, save the very elect.

america is in the process of the end times but not how one would think. it will suffer much and the a/c will use americas demise as grounds to prove to the world that scripture has been fulfilled and that he is here for the 1000 year reign. he is given power to make war with the saints, america is the only christian nation, and america is a rebellious lot, full of pride, perhaps to much to bow down to a world leader. you say nwo, and people are likely to pull their hog leg out ready for a fight. because of this, everyone will say peace, peace, yet there will be war. he thinks he must have rule of order and law, as all governing authorities do. and america has to many weapons lying around that can fall into the wrong hands, threats must be dealt with by a new government or regime. as it tends to either make them look bad or threatened.

people through out history have taken it upon themselves to self fulfill prophecy, know what i mean? he doesnt really believe in the bible, but thinks to use it for good and in turn damns himself. like Judas perhaps? trying to force the hand of God? he fulfills the prophetic but only cause he doesnt trully believe and desires to unite the people by any means possible. the boogey man is not the boogeyman he is portrayed to be, he is a humanist who thinks to to good. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it is not the spirit of God leading him but rather a religious entity. in the process he loses himself and thinks of himself as god but unlike his predeccessors, on a world scale. because he is drunken with power.

towards the middle he is fully consumed, he kills the 2 witnesses and then defiles the temple, which brings upon the earth the second half of the trib, the great tribulation. this is where the Fathers anger goes up into his face, this is when men become more precious than gold.

as to a rapture? this is always going to be an arguing point because all three views can be derived. but in my personal view, right before the trumpet blows, john asks who are all of these, and is told, these are the ones taken out of the great tribulation, which would correspond to Jesus saving his people from the Fathers wrath. im thinking they as well as the 2 witnesses are plucked up at the same time, first the dead, and then the living. and i am think there is another gathering as well, in megiddo, where the corrupt kill each other off perhaps?

the meek inherit the earth, and for a thousand years Jesus rules over them.........


well, its all interpretation and speculation, always is. feel free to stab holes in it. stab enough holes and ill go back to the drawing board yet again.

Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Whoa, amazing a humble Christian, working honorably on prophecy.

Well done Gideon, and great great Name

And no you are pretty well grounded, just a few errors in my opinion...... that you can check out discern and pray about.

Lets start... two tribulations..OK but it is semantics.

Some say the last 3.5 years is the Tribulation and the first part the Plastic Peace.... some say as you do it is diviided and named trib then Great Trib.

Either way as long as brethren understand the scenario of events.

So then you wrote that the AC killed the 2 Witnesses at the start of the great Tribulation...... NOT SO< that is easy to comprehend because our 2 Christian leaders, our Boaz and Joachin die on the steps of the Temple and lie there for 3.5 DAYS and then they are resurrected.... the Resurrection comes at the END of the Great Tribulation at the End of the LAST 7 years...

OH NO< this might mean you have got your rapture wrong....lets check
kin

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ok, now let me try to reason and hope it makes sense, the 2 witnesses die around mid-trib. Israel gets their temple and sacrifices are began at the start of the trib. but the 2 witnesses begin their "ministry?" at the same time, Gods temple always has prophets. and heres my reasoning.

after the temple is defiled, its no longer Gods temple and therefore will have no prophets.

another reason, the witnesses are killed 3 1/2 days before the "rapture" this is important, because the inhabitants of the earth will rejoice and give each other presents and such celibrations marrying and giving in marriage, the whole days of noah theme is played out, they will say peace peace and their destruction comes quickly.

for another, after the quake of the Lamb, the skies are darkened, the sun as sackcloth and moon as blood. this is important too. the darkening is a sign of judgement for one, but theres another reason. people will disappear.

God never does anything in the open, He wants men to come to him because they believe, not because they saw a miracle.

during that dark period, people will disappear, but after the darkness passes, there wont be alot of time to find those people, as the trumpets will start blowing. the people will be assumed either burried under rubble from the quake, or wondered off in the darkness, and in lieu of the trumpets, there wont be alot of time to search for them as people will have their hands full of trying to stay alive or realizing they have been mislead and are out to kill the a/c.

the 144,000 come into play around mid trib as well.

it will be a terrible time to be alive. but theres still the arguement about those who endure till the end as well, but i think those are the meek/converts from the work of the 144,000? and will be ruled over in the 1000 year reign.

The Roman Catholic Church is a wolf parading around in the skins of saints they killed in a hope to fool the sheep, seeking whomever they may devour. ~me~

Satans first miracle, he doesn't exist. his next miracle? Hell doesn't exist.
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america is in the process of the end times but not how one would think. it will suffer much and the a/c will use americas demise as grounds to prove to the world that scripture has been fulfilled and that he is here for the 1000 year reign. he is given power to make war with the saints, america is the only christian nation, America is as vile as hell and the cage of every foul bird and devil..she is the whore, and she is destroyed before the Great Tribulation so that the AC can march to Jerusalem and set up his MARK for the GT) and america is a rebellious lot, full of pride, perhaps to much to bow down to a world leader. you say nwo, and people are likely to pull their hog leg out ready for a fight. because of this, everyone will say peace, peace, yet there will be war. he thinks he must have rule of order and law, as all governing authorities do. and america has to many weapons lying around that can fall into the wrong hands, threats must be dealt with by a new government or regime. as it tends to either make them look bad or threatened.(NO, America is nuked before the GT. Rev 17,18, she is no more, and is not mentined further and goes into chaos as she has lead countries into war and chaos)

people through out history have taken it upon themselves to self fulfill prophecy, know what i mean? he doesnt really believe in the bible, but thinks to use it for good and in turn damns himself. like Judas perhaps? trying to force the hand of God? he fulfills the prophetic but only cause he doesnt trully believe and desires to unite the people by any means possible. the boogey man is not the boogeyman he is portrayed to be, he is a humanist who thinks to to good. but the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and it is not the spirit of God leading him but rather a religious entity. in the process he loses himself and thinks of himself as god but unlike his predeccessors, on a world scale. because he is drunken with power.

towards the middle he is fully consumed, he kills the 2 witnesses and then defiles the temple, (NO the 2 prophets lead the Lord's people away from Jerusalem to Petra as the Lord said..They return to deliever the trumpets and then get killed on their seventh return)

which brings upon the earth the second half of the trib, the great tribulation. this is where the Fathers anger goes up into his face, this is when men become more precious than gold.Say Jesus not the Father..... as the lord leads us and Jesus and the father are one. And no we are not scatterred but gathered, we are the 144,000, the Bride of Christ)

as to a rapture? this is always going to be an arguing point because all three views can be derived. but in my personal view, right before the trumpet blows, john asks who are all of these, and is told, these are the ones taken out of the great tribulation, which would correspond to Jesus saving his people from the Fathers wrath. im thinking they as well as the 2 witnesses are plucked up at the same time, first the dead, and then the living. and i am think there is another gathering as well, in megiddo, where the corrupt kill each other off perhaps? (SEE your error now you are sying that the 2 die now at the end, which is correct before you said at the start.... We fight and serve the Lord all the way through the GT, its the most inspiring time of all times, the time when all wanted to live.

[link to davidjayjordan.com]

the meek inherit the earth, and for a thousand years Jesus rules over them.........


well, its all interpretation and speculation, always is. feel free to stab holes in it. stab enough holes and ill go back to the drawing board yet again. (Just realise that the Wrath of God is different than the GT. Wrath is 45 days, the GT preceeds it and is 1260 Dyas, The GT has seven trumpets that are different than the seven vials... the last trumpet being Jesus in the clouds the last vial being Armeggeddon, Jesus coming down from the clouds
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what i am proposing is a jagged pill to swallow. but a great deception is about to transpire.

a literal fulfillment of scripture to mislead many, and many will follow cause it is plausible.

but remember, the beast gets its power from its image.

america is the fall guy, the scriptures will seem to be fulfilled with americas downfall. and the world will believe it. if anybody was to question, they will be able to say that you misinterpreted the scriptures. after all the false prophet will be the assumed authority of scriptures. much like a pope. the beast that was, then wasnt, but still is.

why would the rcc play this role? america was founded by those who wouldnt bow to her authority. and still dont.

europe already divided up the world into 10 parts, and rome is still in power, they just need yet another ruler to groom into doing their purpose.

the rcc is a total contradiction to what Jesus said, period.

they claim that peter is its founder, citing peter is the rock that Jesus would build his church on, but they are wrong. Peter had faith, and knew that Jesus was Lord, Jesus said that this rock he would build his church upon, he was referring to faith, not peter.

we are warned about men who wear white robes and not to call anybody father, for our Father is in heaven.

the apostles warned us that the mystery of inequity does already work.

they was warning us of the church in rome.

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ok, now let me try to reason and hope it makes sense, the 2 witnesses die around mid-trib. Israel gets their temple and sacrifices are began at the start of the trib. but the 2 witnesses begin their "ministry?" at the same time, Gods temple always has prophets. and heres my reasoning.

after the temple is defiled, its no longer Gods temple and therefore will have no prophets.

another reason, the witnesses are killed 3 1/2 days before the "rapture" this is important, because the inhabitants of the earth will rejoice and give each other presents and such celibrations marrying and giving in marriage, the whole days of noah theme is played out, they will say peace peace and their destruction comes quickly.

for another, after the quake of the Lamb, the skies are darkened, the sun as sackcloth and moon as blood. this is important too. the darkening is a sign of judgement for one, but theres another reason. people will disappear.

God never does anything in the open, He wants men to come to him because they believe, not because they saw a miracle.

during that dark period, people will disappear, but after the darkness passes, there wont be alot of time to find those people, as the trumpets will start blowing. the people will be assumed either burried under rubble from the quake, or wondered off in the darkness, and in lieu of the trumpets, there wont be alot of time to search for them as people will have their hands full of trying to stay alive or realizing they have been mislead and are out to kill the a/c.

the 144,000 come into play around mid trib as well.

it will be a terrible time to be alive. but theres still the arguement about those who endure till the end as well, but i think those are the meek/converts from the work of the 144,000? and will be ruled over in the 1000 year reign.

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Bro you have the 2 witnesses dying in mid term, and starting their ministry at mid term..... impossible, death means death and the cessation of life and ministries.

Ha bring them back to life in your mind and see that they are our leaders as we fight to the death til the End. As it states clearly that the AC almost totally wipes us out at Petra.... those Christians in the world who rejected the Mark only las a few months before they are killed, some of us last til the end because we obeyed the Lord and wanted to serve the Lord.

Don;t kill the 2 prophets at the beginnig of their major ministry and you can piece things together

IHS.

Ha let them live..they got 42 months, 1260 days to fulfill their earthly mission of leading us from Petra against the devil and against His evl worshipping Temple

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The US is not Christian and never has been.

The RC church is just as vile as the Protestant Church. No difference. Church systems develop churchies that are pro war, pro business, pro Whore,, pro materialism, pro patriotism, pro killing, pro scribe and [pharisees, they are dangerous and killers.

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ok, now let me try to reason and hope it makes sense, the 2 witnesses die around mid-trib. Israel gets their temple and sacrifices are began at the start of the trib. but the 2 witnesses begin their "ministry?" at the same time, Gods temple always has prophets. and heres my reasoning.

after the temple is defiled, its no longer Gods temple and therefore will have no prophets.

another reason, the witnesses are killed 3 1/2 days before the "rapture" this is important, because the inhabitants of the earth will rejoice and give each other presents and such celibrations marrying and giving in marriage, the whole days of noah theme is played out, they will say peace peace and their destruction comes quickly.

for another, after the quake of the Lamb, the skies are darkened, the sun as sackcloth and moon as blood. this is important too. the darkening is a sign of judgement for one, but theres another reason. people will disappear.

God never does anything in the open, He wants men to come to him because they believe, not because they saw a miracle.

during that dark period, people will disappear, but after the darkness passes, there wont be alot of time to find those people, as the trumpets will start blowing. the people will be assumed either burried under rubble from the quake, or wondered off in the darkness, and in lieu of the trumpets, there wont be alot of time to search for them as people will have their hands full of trying to stay alive or realizing they have been mislead and are out to kill the a/c.

the 144,000 come into play around mid trib as well.

it will be a terrible time to be alive. but theres still the arguement about those who endure till the end as well, but i think those are the meek/converts from the work of the 144,000? and will be ruled over in the 1000 year reign.

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Bro you have the 2 witnesses dying in mid term, and starting their ministry at mid term..... impossible, death means death and the cessation of life and ministries.

Ha bring them back to life in your mind and see that they are our leaders as we fight to the death til the End. As it states clearly that the AC almost totally wipes us out at Petra.... those Christians in the world who rejected the Mark only las a few months before they are killed, some of us last til the end because we obeyed the Lord and wanted to serve the Lord.

Don;t kill the 2 prophets at the beginnig of their major ministry and you can piece things together

IHS.

Ha let them live..they got 42 months, 1260 days to fulfill their earthly mission of leading us from Petra against the devil and against His evl worshipping Temple

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ok, its apparent you are not understanding the trib, great trib concept. the witnesses come forth at the beginning of the tribulation and die mid-tribulation. at mid- trib their work is done, the temple is defiled. the 144,000 pick up and carry on, they have by that time accepted the Lord and are no doubt saying "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord....."

it isnt us who will be fighting the beast, it will be those whom the beast has mislead, they will turn on him when they are unblinded and see him for what he is.

if you right hand offends thee, cut it off. and if thy eye offends thee, pluck it out. for it is better to enter heaven maimed than it is to go to hell with all your members. paraphrasing.

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No the Lord gives us His 2 leaders during the Great Trib.

As mentioned any foolish dumb disobedient Christians who miss the GATHERING will be hunted down and killed within weeks or months after the AC has taken over the temple. The Good citizens of the NWO will be praising and loving and trusting and thanking the AC til the end of the GT.

Its not a little picnic of little Christians runnig around leaderless for three and a half years.

But if that is what you believe so be it. Go t alone in your doctrine. But you do have time to rethink your isolation

Sword0fGideon
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5/5/2011 3:03 PM


so, in truth, your not looking for honest discussion, but rather are looking for yes men and women who either believe the way you do, or better yet, you can teach to believe the way you do.

and how is this different than the churches that you so adamantly disapprove of?

i was under the impression that you, like me, not being of a church would be open to discussion and honest debate. but you have showed me otherwise, and so i will be on my way.

The Roman Catholic Church is a wolf parading around in the skins of saints they killed in a hope to fool the sheep, seeking whomever they may devour. ~me~

Satans first miracle, he doesn't exist. his next miracle? Hell doesn't exist.
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