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AGENDA 21..update: Al Gore Comes Unhinged During Climate Change Speech!

 
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Most of the major bills that have passed in the last 7-8 years have control and tax provisions in them."patriot act.health care,etc" all are for the control and taxation,depopulation.
For agenda 21 to implement they have to have the money and laws and control grids in place to take peoples property.

Forcible vaccinations yes in the heath care bill.
Tax on any transaction over 600$, healthcare bill.

You also know the control grid they have set up for terroist?

Well the laws are put into place for you.when they come to take your property and vaccinate you.

You see there is no personal property in agenda 21.
So you live where they tell you,work were they tell you.
Take whatever vaccinations they tell you too.
And eat whatever gmo garbage they give you.

It is all on their un agenda 21 website.
[link to www.un.org]

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They can't force vaccinations as long as religious exemptions are available. And the only way religious exemptions would not be available is only if religious freedom was taken away. That would also mean freedom of speech would be taken away as well. The United States would no longer exist as we know it. Know your rights.
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AGENDA 21


Chris Gerner was the first one that I heard to talk about AGENDA 21

The guy was a Prophet. It's too bad that he couldn't stay on the air.
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Most of the major bills that have passed in the last 7-8 years have control and tax provisions in them."patriot act.health care,etc" all are for the control and taxation,depopulation.
For agenda 21 to implement they have to have the money and laws and control grids in place to take peoples property.

Forcible vaccinations yes in the heath care bill.
Tax on any transaction over 600$, healthcare bill.

You also know the control grid they have set up for terroist?

Well the laws are put into place for you.when they come to take your property and vaccinate you.

You see there is no personal property in agenda 21.
So you live where they tell you,work were they tell you.
Take whatever vaccinations they tell you too.
And eat whatever gmo garbage they give you.

It is all on their un agenda 21 website.
[link to www.un.org]

[link to video.google.com]



They can't force vaccinations as long as religious exemptions are available. And the only way religious exemptions would not be available is only if religious freedom was taken away. That would also mean freedom of speech would be taken away as well. The United States would no longer exist as we know it. Know your rights.
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One more terror flase flag and it's martial law time. The only thing that could stop it os a 7th day of May style Coup de etat
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The Clear Act claims control of the oceans, Great Lakes and by extension many other waterways and freshwater resources, mineral mining, solar, geo-thermal, and gas and oil conducted on land or in the oceans, in, on or near the continental United States.



Does this include Canada and Mexico too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1078124


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Ontario and Quebec are convinced that a cap and trade system will be introduced soon in North America, and the two provinces are determined to prepare for what they consider to be the inevitable.

“Cap and trade is coming to North America. It’s not whether; the only question is when,” said Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty, who was in Quebec City for the third joint cabinet meeting between the two provinces.

Even though Ottawa has expressed little interest in setting up a cap and trade system in Canada, the two provinces along with Manitoba and British Columbia intend to move forward with their proposal to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. They are working with a number of U.S. states as members of the Western Climate Initiative to set up a cap and trade system....."

"...Quebec Premier Jean Charest predicted that the oil spill in the United States, which has focused public attention back on the environment after undergoing a recession, will once again draw attention on the need to fight climate change.

“It would be a mistake to think that cap and trade is off the agenda,” Premier Charest said during a joint news conference on Tuesday. He noted that the American Power Act currently before U.S. legislators has sections in it that provide for a cap and trade system for certain industrial sectors and the energy sector...."

American Power act discussed here..

Thread: EPA conclusion...cap and trade is affordable
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WTF....I thought all you people wanted a SOCIALIST COUNTRY...

Quit bitchin.....you voted for it....



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are you a joke? go back to school to learn a difference between socialism and corporate fascim (socializing losses and privatizing profits)


ARE YOU A JOKE?? WHY DONT YOU STFU, YOUR LITTLE SHIITY COUNTRY DOES THE SAME SHIT YOU DUMB FUCK CANUCK
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potty mouth
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HR.3534, Consolidated Land, Energy, and Aquatic Resources Act of 2010 (Reported in House – RH) will effectively render a greater amount of land as owned and/or controlled for profit, by the federal government along with minerals and water rights to now be controlled by the federal government and enforced through the BLM.

The Clear Act claims control of the oceans, Great Lakes and by extension many other waterways and freshwater resources, mineral mining, solar, geo-thermal, and gas and oil conducted on land or in the oceans, in, on or near the continental United States. This bill passed the House on August 4, 2010. All of this as a result of the BP Oil gusher; like we didn’t already have thousands of unused laws on the books to deal with this.

<snip>

(I smell Jim Oberstar’s (D) MN, great stinking mess called the Water Restoration Act, which would seize all water from any source whatsoever, including dried up lake beds and the rain off your roof, and claim it as owned by the federal government.)

<snip>

The CLEAR Act would establish a monthly auction in which fuel producers would bid for “carbon shares”.

And this is how you pass Cap & Trade without calling it Cap & Trade. Even our recent research into the invasive species of Kiri trees slated to be planted across northern Nevada, revealed the added caveat of claimed “carbon credits”.

The Cap & Trade Act would do nothing to curb pollution and instead would simply allow polluters to buy access to increase pollution. It’s a cash cow and one that will adversely affect every household in the country. Higher energy costs that would be totally unregulated would force many families out of their homes; there would be no “credits” for individuals. Just for corporations! And thanks to the CLEAR act, we now have a back door “cap & Trade” .

<snip>

Every U.S. citizen would receive a monthly check from the government. A household family of four would receive a rebate from the government totaling an average of $1,100 per year, or $21,000 between 2012 and 2030.

Nothing like throwing in some cash incentives to get the American public to go along with this theft of states rights and the overwhelming control of land, ocean and waterways to be performed under new bureaucracies whose main functions would be to abrogate individual and states rights. And just so you know: If you cash the check…..you have agreed to the contract stipulated in the CLEAR Act: the right of the federal government to seize your states assets and sell them for profit even if it causes you harm.

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All of this just sounds like some supervillain plot to takeover the Earth, only there is no big hero to save the people from it. There's nothing we can do. Enjoy your time here folks go visit the places you've never been, do the things you've always wanted to do, fuck the debt you accumulate, and when the police come to take your guns or your freedoms away, you give them hell and go out with a bang.

It's over people. We're fucked. They know it. We know it. We just refuse to face the facts, and hold onto an idiotic faith that we can somehow change the opinions of millions of people within the amount of time it will be needed to stop them.

I've tried educating people about this. They tell me that it's interesting but then they don't think of it ever again. The main populace is completely retarded and will not deal with something like this. So they call us crazy and delusional, on issues they know nothing about, but somehow have an opinion.

I wish I was a shill, I'm the furthest from those emo assholes IRL, but when reading shit like this, it just reinforces the total hopelessness we have for taking control back from these evil demons in power.
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if you're not nocturnal, you'll go like your whore
I hope you pigs know this shit means war
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Am I to understand that "the right to pollute" has now become a commercialized commodity? something that can be bought and sold if the price is right?

Whereby the elite who have looted all the wealth through insider trading, fraudulent banking practices and horizontalizing of free energy inventors will be the only ones who can afford those carbon taxes in any sizable amount?

That way the same forces of darkness that have plagued mankind since the dawn of time will be ensured of their continued dominance of all the big industries and markets of the world, I get it..

We are truly being ruled by the very vilest of creatures indeed aren't we?

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excellent post, pimp_my_planet.


and 5 stars for this thread, Cypher!
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Its all designed to keep people down and dependent upon an ancient dark cabal of elite overlords who will stop at nothing to stay on top of the heap..

Don't blame them, they practice a religion that basically dictates that all is fair in love and war.

They are raised and educated with a heavy dose of mind control from which there is practically no escape.

It's up to us to do whatever it takes to spread the word far and white about the horrendous matrix in which we are all being kept as prisoners.

Some say the elite of this world have effectively blocked the spiritual evolution of all of mankind for at least a century possibly more.

We could very well all be at the mercy of these lizards and destined to roam these hellish earthly plains for ever and ever

That's if this fucking spell they have cast over us isn't effectively penetrated for all the world to see and witness

I would be really interested to hear about any new ideas that people may have about how to go about doing that.

In the mean time we can only pray that GOD still has a few surprises in store for us because our enemy is too evil for us mere mortals to deal with.

Fascism is a religion. The twentieth century will be known in history as the century of Fascism. - Benito Mussolini




Excellent post

Just keep on spreading the word as you have in this post. Damn, print this post and little the countryside with it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1078145



Thanks, I think all our problems stem from not communicating enough as humanity about just that...

Its not only a problem of education or lack of motivation why people don't make a stand against the oppression

Its the problem of coming face to face with a conspiracy so horrendous and insanely criminal that its just way too much evil for most people to handle

I think the latter is certainly a part of their strategy, in fact its an integral part of their overall scheme

Otherwise known as psychological warfare..

The people that Obama works for are hard at work 24/7 waging a semi-visible, semi-invisible war against all mankind for profit and power

The majority that don't get it go about their daily routines like always.

The ones that do get it will have some serious psychological challenges to face having to do with overcoming the problem of fear and anxiety in the face of this absurd evil matrix that seems to be speeding towards us like a freight train

bump

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Am I to understand that "the right to pollute" has now become a commercialized commodity? something that can be bought and sold if the price is right?

Whereby the elite who have looted all the wealth through insider trading, fraudulent banking practices and horizontalizing of free energy inventors will be the only ones who can afford those carbon taxes in any sizable amount?
 Quoting: pimp_my_planet

No thats not how it is ill explain it.
A power generation company which emits massive amounts of carbon dioxide(which doesn't harm anything).
They will get a limit that they will have to either stop polluting or buy credits to pollute more.
So what they do is, setup other companies, which dont pollute, which get given carbon credits for FREE by the government from tax victims money.
And they buy the credits off those companies they control, but are not in their names.
They essentially take money from themselves, and give it back to themselves.
Then of course, they say they had the expense of buying these credits.
They then tack the cost of buying them onto the everyday people who pay for electricity.
Making a profit for themselves at the expense of people using electricity.
They can do this infinitely, and eventually when the cost of the credits get so high, electricity will be $900 a week for a regular home.
$900 most people cant afford or don't even have, so they will have no power no fridge no heating cooling cooking lights etc.
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There couldn't be enough said right now to help expose Agenda 21.

I personally try to spread the word to everyone I know about this because the subject is ignored all too often.

I see Agenda 21 being implemented here on a local level (which is the goal) in Indianapolis and not anybody seems to notice.

The same with all the PRIVATIZING happening with public utilities and roads around the country. They present the change as a benefit, but it somehow fits right into the UN;s plan (agenda 21) to enventually abolish private property, and personal liberty's.

And I particulary see the connections with the "UN;s Biodeversity Map"...(Future US) coming together with the land and water grabs, not to mention the disaster in the GOM.
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From the USA version of Agenda 21 under the Clinton administration.
The US does not have an official population policy, in part because population density is low in the United States and large regions of the country are sparsely populated. (The US also has no specific policies to modify the spatial distribution of the population.) In addition, there is little public consensus about either the need for population-based policies, or their nature. According to the US National Report to the International Conference on Population and Development (April 1994), much of the need for family planning in the United States can be met with current contraceptive methods. However, the development of new methods will expand individuals' choices and improve options for families
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WTF....I thought all you people wanted a SOCIALIST COUNTRY...

Quit bitchin.....you voted for it....



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are you a joke? go back to school to learn a difference between socialism and corporate fascim (socializing losses and privatizing profits)
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Hairsplitting. They're ALL (socialism, communism, fascism) TENTACLES OF THE SAME OCTOPUS.

Look at Mussolini. He allowed the companies to still be privately owned, but government-controlled! That was his "compromise," and that was hairsplitting too. If you're controlling something you HAVE DE FACTO OWNERSHIP!!

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WTF....I thought all you people wanted a SOCIALIST COUNTRY...

Quit bitchin.....you voted for it....



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are you a joke? go back to school to learn a difference between socialism and corporate fascim (socializing losses and privatizing profits)



Hairsplitting. They're ALL (socialism, communism, fascism) TENTACLES OF THE SAME OCTOPUS.

Look at Mussolini. He allowed the companies to still be privately owned, but government-controlled! That was his "compromise," and that was hairsplitting too. If you're controlling something you HAVE DE FACTO OWNERSHIP!!

"The goal of socialism is communism." Lenin
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All the ism-s are mind control gimmicks dreamt up by our profoundly deranged overlords to keep us all enslaved

just thought I'd mention that hf
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There couldn't be enough said right now to help expose Agenda 21.

I personally try to spread the word to everyone I know about this because the subject is ignored all too often.

I see Agenda 21 being implemented here on a local level (which is the goal) in Indianapolis and not anybody seems to notice.

The same with all the PRIVATIZING happening with public utilities and roads around the country. They present the change as a benefit, but it somehow fits right into the UN;s plan (agenda 21) to enventually abolish private property, and personal liberty's.

And I particulary see the connections with the "UN;s Biodeversity Map"...(Future US) coming together with the land and water grabs, not to mention the disaster in the GOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077987


[link to www.crossroad.to]

Chapter 28 of Agenda 21 specifically calls for each community to formulate its own Local Agenda 21:

"Each local authority should enter into a dialogue with its citizens, local organizations, and private enterprises and adopt 'a local Agenda 21.' Through consultation and consensus-building, local authorities would learn from citizens and from local, civic, community, business and industrial organizations and acquire the information needed for formulating the best strategies." (Agenda 21, Chapter 28, sec 1,3.)

This tactic may sound reasonable until you realize that the dedicated "Stakeholder Group' that organizes and oversees local transformation is not elected by the public. And the people selected to represent the 'citizens' in your community will not present your interests. The chosen 'partners', professional staff, and working groups are implementing a new system of governance without asking your opinion.
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LOL, lets see them enforce that.

They can't even do an oil spill right.
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And I particulary see the connections with the "UN;s Biodeversity Map"...(Future US) coming together with the land and water grabs, not to mention the disaster in the GOM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077987



I so agree with you!

Intentional::: Kill everything and everyone and your NAFTA superhighway land is relatively unencumbered, ready for the taking, no need even to implement imminent domain...
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From the USA version of Agenda 21 under the Clinton administration.
The US does not have an official population policy, in part because population density is low in the United States and large regions of the country are sparsely populated. (The US also has no specific policies to modify the spatial distribution of the population.) In addition, there is little public consensus about either the need for population-based policies, or their nature. According to the US National Report to the International Conference on Population and Development (April 1994), much of the need for family planning in the United States can be met with current contraceptive methods. However, the development of new methods will expand individuals' choices and improve options for families
 Quoting: pops 1078169



Duh...shill much?......What do you think is going to happen when they take everyone's property. and force vaccinations.Forced resettlements.


They are bankrupting the country by design and when it collapses.They will act like the savorier for the mess they created then do what is called a debt for land swap.

Which they will take possession of everyones property for the supposed debt.

Get the picture, there are no winners in this other than the elites and their puppet politicians.

You can delude yourself but if it continues they want depopulation.

No question .
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Am I to understand that "the right to pollute" has now become a commercialized commodity? something that can be bought and sold if the price is right?

Whereby the elite who have looted all the wealth through insider trading, fraudulent banking practices and horizontalizing of free energy inventors will be the only ones who can afford those carbon taxes in any sizable amount?

No thats not how it is ill explain it.
A power generation company which emits massive amounts of carbon dioxide(which doesn't harm anything).
They will get a limit that they will have to either stop polluting or buy credits to pollute more.
So what they do is, setup other companies, which dont pollute, which get given carbon credits for FREE by the government from tax victims money.
And they buy the credits off those companies they control, but are not in their names.
They essentially take money from themselves, and give it back to themselves.
Then of course, they say they had the expense of buying these credits.
They then tack the cost of buying them onto the everyday people who pay for electricity.
Making a profit for themselves at the expense of people using electricity.
They can do this infinitely, and eventually when the cost of the credits get so high, electricity will be $900 a week for a regular home.
$900 most people cant afford or don't even have, so they will have no power no fridge no heating cooling cooking lights etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070511



We can always keep in mind that our grandparents or great grandparents didn't have all the luxuries that we have become accustomed to.

However we are in a more favorable position, if you really put your mind to it most people could live off the grid and be self sufficient for almost all your energy needs

You'd have to play around with solar panels a bit and spend the money a bit to start you off

B.t.w. the wind has been blowing so hard here for the past 2 days that if it were converted into energy it could keep a household running for a year easy, been getting fckn hammered here!

Hopefully a generation of energy hackers will emerge to free us from the slimy lizards

5a

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There couldn't be enough said right now to help expose Agenda 21.

I personally try to spread the word to everyone I know about this because the subject is ignored all too often.

I see Agenda 21 being implemented here on a local level (which is the goal) in Indianapolis and not anybody seems to notice.

The same with all the PRIVATIZING happening with public utilities and roads around the country. They present the change as a benefit, but it somehow fits right into the UN;s plan (agenda 21) to enventually abolish private property, and personal liberty's.

And I particulary see the connections with the "UN;s Biodeversity Map"...(Future US) coming together with the land and water grabs, not to mention the disaster in the GOM.


[link to www.crossroad.to]

Chapter 28 of Agenda 21 specifically calls for each community to formulate its own Local Agenda 21:

"Each local authority should enter into a dialogue with its citizens, local organizations, and private enterprises and adopt 'a local Agenda 21.' Through consultation and consensus-building, local authorities would learn from citizens and from local, civic, community, business and industrial organizations and acquire the information needed for formulating the best strategies." (Agenda 21, Chapter 28, sec 1,3.)

This tactic may sound reasonable until you realize that the dedicated "Stakeholder Group' that organizes and oversees local transformation is not elected by the public. And the people selected to represent the 'citizens' in your community will not present your interests. The chosen 'partners', professional staff, and working groups are implementing a new system of governance without asking your opinion.
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It makes sense. I have been periodically checking the membership page for US cities to find indianapolis, but we are not a member and our major is not on the "cool major" list as of yet. Though one of the first things he did when he took office is create "sustainindy"..

Heres the link for the ICLEI Membership List:

[link to www.icleiusa.org]
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There couldn't be enough said right now to help expose Agenda 21.

I personally try to spread the word to everyone I know about this because the subject is ignored all too often.

I see Agenda 21 being implemented here on a local level (which is the goal) in Indianapolis and not anybody seems to notice.

The same with all the PRIVATIZING happening with public utilities and roads around the country. They present the change as a benefit, but it somehow fits right into the UN;s plan (agenda 21) to enventually abolish private property, and personal liberty's.

And I particulary see the connections with the "UN;s Biodeversity Map"...(Future US) coming together with the land and water grabs, not to mention the disaster in the GOM.


[link to www.crossroad.to]

Chapter 28 of Agenda 21 specifically calls for each community to formulate its own Local Agenda 21:

"Each local authority should enter into a dialogue with its citizens, local organizations, and private enterprises and adopt 'a local Agenda 21.' Through consultation and consensus-building, local authorities would learn from citizens and from local, civic, community, business and industrial organizations and acquire the information needed for formulating the best strategies." (Agenda 21, Chapter 28, sec 1,3.)

This tactic may sound reasonable until you realize that the dedicated "Stakeholder Group' that organizes and oversees local transformation is not elected by the public. And the people selected to represent the 'citizens' in your community will not present your interests. The chosen 'partners', professional staff, and working groups are implementing a new system of governance without asking your opinion.



It makes sense. I have been periodically checking the membership page for US cities to find indianapolis, but we are not a member and our major is not on the "cool major" list as of yet. Though one of the first things he did when he took office is create "sustainindy"..

Heres the link for the ICLEI Membership List:

[link to www.icleiusa.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077987


Thanks for the link to the members list.I always wanted to know which towns are a part of it.
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I love Agenda 21, heres more from the USA version.
According to the President's Council for Sustainable Development (PCSD) Task Force on Public Linkage, Dialogue and Education "an educated public is our most powerful resource to meet the challenges created by increasing environmental, economic and social demands." Recognizing the importance of education, the Council created this Task Force to serve as the vehicle through which the work of the Council is accessible to the public for information, review and comment. In addition to information dissemination on sustainable development, the PCSD and its activities, the Public Linkage Task Force promotes dialogue and outreach between the PCSD and community networks. Through its efforts, the Task Force hopes to foster national understanding of sustainable development.

The EPA encourages partnerships, mobilizes resources, provides information and assesses the needs of different population groups. It also works with United Nations agencies and organizations to provide guidance on policy development and technical assistance to benefit developing countries
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WTF....I thought all you people wanted a SOCIALIST COUNTRY...

Quit bitchin.....you voted for it....



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exactly! suddenly its cool for the left to bash obama! we voted for them this is what we get. We allowed ourselves top take the most perfect form of government ever and pervert it into something terrible. Reap what you sow! i believe nothing will prevent the collapse of the US and the chaos that will follow... i no longer have faith in RAP, anti-war ppl, the tea party, the alternative media, or anything for that matter, the next stop, mob rule, starvation, plague and good old fashioned war via invasion, civil, or revolution. Violence is the final authority and it will be used on us
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Federal policy on housing is based on programmes enacted by the Congress and administered by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). However, virtually the entire housing development process land acquisition, construction, sale and financing is market driven. Typically, zoning regulations for housing are developed and administered at local levels, with little or no federal involvement.

The US has no specific policies to modify the spatial distribution of the population.
From social aspects in the USA version of Agenda 21. God bless the USA and God bless the UN for their helpful guidence in solving the worlds problems.
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The US played an active role in Habitat II. USAID's urban programming approaches promote the principles of sustainable human settlements development agreed to at Habitat II. These principles include:

decentralization and empowerment of local governments to enable them to carry out local environmental improvements;
creation of enabling financial and institutional/legal frameworks and environments which foster autonomy of local governments and increase participation of the private sector in the financing and delivery of urban services, housing and improved environmental management; and,
increasing citizen participation in the decision-making of local governments in urban services delivery
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Chapter 28 of Agenda 21 specifically calls for each community to formulate its own Local Agenda 21:

"Each local authority should enter into a dialogue with its citizens, local organizations, and private enterprises and adopt 'a local Agenda 21.' Through consultation and consensus-building, local authorities would learn from citizens and from local, civic, community, business and industrial organizations and acquire the information needed for formulating the best strategies." (Agenda 21, Chapter 28, sec 1,3.)

This tactic may sound reasonable until you realize that the dedicated "Stakeholder Group' that organizes and oversees local transformation is not elected by the public. And the people selected to represent the 'citizens' in your community will not present your interests. The chosen 'partners', professional staff, and working groups are implementing a new system of governance without asking your opinion.
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kitty That;s the thing which I found out the hard way, back when I was more involved with politics. They are always quick with the "inclusive" words, but just you try disagreeing with them and see what happens.

And they never use one word, when ten will do.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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All of this craziness could come to an end in a heartbeat if only the military would wake the fuck up, stop defending the elite and get their asses home and clean up the mess over here.

But I won't hold my breath.
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE
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What did you think would happen since they got away with 911? You did and do nothing? Of course the behavior continues.
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A cap-and-dividend way to a cleaner nation and more jobs

By Maria Cantwell and Susan Collins
Friday, June 18, 2010

There has been much talk recently about whether Republicans and Democrats in Washington can produce a bipartisan clean-energy and jobs bill. The answer is: We already have. We are leading a bipartisan effort to put a lid on carbon pollution and in so doing unleash a massive investment in clean-energy technology. If we can tackle this issue in a predictable, transparent and free-market way, we can create millions of high-paying jobs while limiting the worst effects of climate change and reducing both our dependence on foreign oil and the risk of another oil spill.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

[link to cantwell.senate.gov]

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[link to www.capanddividend.org]

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