BOEING GUY

Large house, acreage, well, pool, etc....
Got a good deal with the low house market...
With power Co. rebate and tax rebate..we only paid for 47%..

We figured when SHTF our large family will need a place to be.

Everything costs more in Cali...especially power!!

My goal is not to derail your threads or distort what you say. I do tend to come with specific targeted criticisms of things that I know are wrong. Sometimes even a single criticism unquestionably should impact the direction of the entire thread (ie, sun angles on shuttle thread), sometimes it is simply intended to raise questions about whether a particular source is credible or not, as in this case. I didn't want half this thread to become all about me or my one question, but the subject of the thread is supposed to be about boeing guy specifically, is it not? If you want to try to draw connections between stories to paint the picture of a nasty solar max with doomy implications in the offing, I try not to interfere in your interpretation or opinion of that whether I agree or not. But when I see a guy claiming to have inside info and confirmation but I see a glaring lie mixed into it I can't help but point that out. Everything else he offers may or may not be true, but its weight really depends on his personal credibility.

If I said I had seen an asteroid that was going to strike the earth tomorrow but for whatever reason I was unable to present direct proof people would have to evaluate my statement based on how credible they see me. They might point to circumstantial facts like the recent impacts on jupiter or the infamous spy satellite data classification, but ultimately the claim would rest on my credibility, so if I said something that was clearly wrong mixed in with the story you should rightly question that credibility. Now in this case the claimed outcome is uncertain, and even boeing guy's story is basically that the experts don't know anything for sure, and his information is partial, so it's not as cut and dry as either an asteroid hitting us or not hitting us. I simply pointed out what I see as a red flag that he's being less than honest about what he's heard. If you choose to give him the benefit of a doubt, that's perfectly understandable, to each his own, but what I told you is the truth. If people had simply accepted that fact instead of claiming I was lying and a shill it wouldn't have derailed the thread.

I wouldn't be so optimistic in that whole, power back on-line thingy...

Alrighty...FINE! :)

Basically, from what I can gleam...Astronut ONLY has issue with the one singular thing. OTHER than that, Astronut has stated that BG is free to believe whatever he wants. So far as I can tell, the ONLY thing Astro has commented on negatively (more like an attempt to set the record straight) IS THE NEO. :)

I know...I know...sometimes it's hard to read 12 pages of tirades, a$$ ki$$ing, venting, ranting, info sharing and general congeniality to get to the meat...

BUT IT'S SO MUCH FUN!

No he has not. LEAVE OUT THE NEO and tell me what is not credible in what he has said.

Who is the "we" you refer to? And why can't you fully divulge? If it is the best interest for people to know so they can prepare i would think your conscience would be in conflict with this. Do you not think we will all be accountable at some point for our deeds?

Maybe just tell your kids stories about the time that there were lights everywhere and that maybe one day if they are good the lights will come back on when they grow up.

thank you.

Can you tell me what's my favorite beer? Not BUUTLight either.

no worries...I think, that to point out one thing said into the entire context of what was brought up, is fallacy itself, as nothing can be perfected in writing, on a forum, especially one as this...

In truth, I don't understand why people get so caught up as to whether the Boeing guy really is from Boeing...I don't know why YOU would care...but, to each his own.

He provided direction, I provided research...there are many things that I have experienced that you would say cannot exist. What is it for you to say that I have not experienced something because I don't provide information to you that would PROVE that it is truth.

Hell, I am done arguing with you rAstro...as I am sure you are with me...

I'm getting to that. Boeing guy's statements are largely just based on his word that he's heard this or that. If I said that I know that an asteroid was about to hit us based on what an astronomer told me, but my word is all I have to offer you, you'd have to evaluate my statement based on how credible you think I am. Now if I said I know that an asteroid was about to hit us based on what an astronomer told me, and he also said he was surprised when they banned NEO information, then you shouldn't trust any of my statement. You're asking me to evaluate his credibility after omitting a statement known to be factually false leaving only mildly cryptic and ambiguous statements that can neither be proven nor falsified.

There are better ways to make a point. Really, there are.

The text, in the context of this thread, lays it out quite clearly. Ya jussa gotta read it with eyes open.

I, for one, would never minimize what a person says based on a singular incongruity. There's a lot to be learned about a person and the world in general by discerning the truth and identifying the lies.

Here's another twist on it...

To sell a lie, tell a big truth with a little lie. Need to sell a bigger lie? Tell a bigger truth! Perception.

Face it...we are lied to all the time. It's up to each of us to individually determine what we are willing to accept.

But isn't the opposite also true? A single lie/misdirection within a larger truth can sometimes derail the truth. How so? Because we focus on what we perceive as the lie.

Interesting, no?

Does BG's mistake about the NEO negate the rest of what he's saying? What IS HE SAYING? Hmmmm...THAT is the question. Rhetorical for me, of course.

As with all things, we can take it or leave it.

I, for one...am watching and learning.

Because his statements rest on his own credibility. If he's lying then there's not much point to anything he's said. He may as well have been you just connecting various stories about local fluff and bad solar storms coming our way. In fact, the latter would be much better because at least you strive to be honest as far as I can tell. Even if I do think you post deceptively once in a while, I will concede that you try to keep things above board for the most part and I give you credit for that.

I believe the person was commenting on the CONCEPT being B.S. not the emails.

But, hey if you want to strike fear and such have at it. I realize you folks hear enjoy watching the sheep frolick around in 360 different directions. lol

Who knows when and if, and yes it's better to be prepared for certain things. However, if all one does is prepare for ill times they forget to enjoy life and that's what we are here for.

Not to run around scared. Plenty of time for that when it comes. Nicely put together threads though!

but as you pointed out people did due diligence and researched what he was saying and found it to have merit. No one just took his word for it. Did you read the thread to see how we have arrived at the conclusions we reached. I think not or you would not have used the approached you used in your attack on the Boeing guy. I for one, read what was researched and made a decision based on that rather than just the word of BG. Take a step back and look at your attitude you approached the threads you are posting on. peace. rken

Last Edited by rken on 08/27/2010 02:52 PM

Wow, you keep a list? Man, and you accuse me of being aggressive.

When the grids go down, TPTB will certainly try to pass off the pole shift as a CME attack on earth, via NASA

They will pretend for as long as possible that they can restore power eventually (2 years?) This promise is their only fall back position to retain control of the masses that
survive the pole shift.

The simple fact is that if CME were the real problem, there would not be a global power outage.

Boeing guy sounds nearly as vague as the 'I know something you don't but can't tell' threads. Not quite. Almost.

Sickscent, you are indefatigable and lovable but deeply into
new age trancendentalism/ascendency which is nothing but
voodoo.

There is something on the level of atoms that must be considered.

The copper atom, the gold atom, the aluminum atom, and all the other conductive material atoms, have a free electron that hops back and forth from one nucleus to another in an energized state.

The function of atoms is the byproduct of interplanetary
gravitational forces. The energy of the movement of the planets that orbit around the sun, is the fuel of atomic
behaviors.

The pole shift will flip the electromagnetic field.
At first glance one might think, no problem, the forces are the same and we can just start calling Antarctica the
north pole. Everything will be the same. Lets reboot the grid.

This is not quite accurate. When the poles shift, the earth will be in opposite spin on it's axis, and in the same rotational orbit around the sun.

This change in gravitational forces, which is the result of
spin on axis and direction, speed, mass of the sun, mass of the earth, between the two, position of the moon, other planets (especially the big ones), their spin and direction on axis, distance, etc., also factors in the gravitational power equation, even when calculated, if it were possible,
results in an unknown impact on the behavior of atoms.

It is possible that the earth may no longer be a negatively charged environment. It is possible that energy rules will be inside out. It is equally possible that everything we
ever knew in the present atomic state, will be different.

Underground facilities will be toast during this event.
They are already running on electromagnetically harvested
power, based on a negatively charged function.

Loss of comms will be far more difficult for survivors than loss of branch circuits in homes and offices.

Learn to build cookfires. Learn to cook on them.

seeds, water filters, food storage.. (ammo\weapons\hope u do not have to use them) for starters

I have acquired 10 acres worth of heirloom seeds..seeds are number one item to have on hand, and food till u get something out of the garden, 3 months to 1+ years worth.


Keep ur camping eq up and build a relationship with ur like minded neighbors.

Community is where it is at....

I had visions since I was 5 of the coming disasters, I believe it will start in fall of 2010. am all tooled up now. and ready to bring in a better world for our children.

good luck to all.

Exactly correct. We all interpret information/data differently and connect our dots in different patterns. Whatever happens and how ever it happens will surprise everybody and I'm betting dollars to donuts, in-spite of the best information available, the Universe has the last word and it will be quite different than any of us can imagine... or prepare for. It's is going to be interesting living and observing this change.

Astronut,

They ARE classified! I posted the link earlier, maybe you missed it.

Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified


By Leonard David
SPACE.com's Space Insider Columnist
posted: 10 June 2009
05:35 pm ET

For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere – but no longer.

A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned.


[link to www.space.com]

I find it very interesting how people can get caught up in semantics. It seems that there are individuals that troll this site that will do anything and everything to decry or denounce someone's post. I've read SS's blog and admittedly did not understand 100% of the information being given, but SS included enough links so that I was able to trace stuff back to the original source and eventually got what he was saying. But there are those that get caught up on little things and fail to see the forest for the trees. Ok, so the blog and original thread mentioned that "The Boeing Guy" was going to ground by June because HE (not SS) felt that things would start to happen around then. Even then, Boeing Guy indicated that he was not sure of an exact date. Yet, because June has come and gone, people want to discount the entire thread. And then there is the near Earth object. How many of those things have actually come darned close to hitting us and TPTB didn't bother to mention it 'til days afterward? SS has provided us with a wealth of great information, but never claims to know exactly when or how the SHTF.

And seriously? Your going to take the time to blast someone on they're grammer? If you didn't figure it out, that last sentence was incorrect on purpose. Even the best of us make a typographical error occasionally, so what, doesn't mean that the information being imparted is any less valuable. I personally don't find it necessary to take the extra time to go in and edit a post to fix something so insignificant in relation to rest of it.

I'm likely wasting my breath here, because there will always be shills and trolls and just plain a$$holes that muck up the good work that people like SS put up for the rest of us to learn from and enjoy. Thanks SS

And I'm giving you my research into his statements. Most of it can be circumstantially "supported" with confirmation bias with warnings from NASA about solar storms and all the rest, but it is very difficult to directly prove or refute anything he's said. This is one of the few things that can be directly addressed and it calls the whole story into question for me.

I have no regrets about how I approached the thread. It didn't take long for the accusations of "shillery" to fly at me when people could have simply accepted what I said and chosen to give the guy the benefit of a doubt anyway.

I just don't get why it matters to you?

It was meant to be a joke.

But now you are just trying to justify your position. Easier just to say your sorry. If you desire to continue your behavior I will be more than happy to accommodate you.

Yo, Nevenshyn,I would be interested in reading your notes/blog... care to share? steer me in the right direction

You really don't get it. Read the article, it's about spy satellite data of fireballs from meteors already in the atmosphere, it has nothing to do with NEOs. I directly linked to that article right out of the box.

because you are a paid shill. The real list is one that has a list of name of those known posters that are on the government payroll. get it.

But I'm not sorry, you effectively accused me of being a shill right out of the box.

Last Edited by Astromut on 08/27/2010 02:58 PM

So much for it being a "joke." I'm not a paid shill and unless you can prove that accusation you're guilty of defamation.