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Apple 'traitorware' takes your photo, shuts down your jailbroken device.

 
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Apple 'traitorware' takes your photo, shuts down your jailbroken device.
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Apple 'traitorware' can take your photo and shut down your jailbroken iPhone, iPad

APPLE has been accused of creating "traitorware" for trying to patent security software that tracks down people who jailbreak their iPhones and iPads and locks them out of their devices.

Jailbreaking allows users to access software and features for their devices that have not been sanctioned by Apple.

The process was declared legitimate by a US court earlier this month, but Apple said any such interference in their device will void its warranty.

Apple's patent, which went before the US Patent and Trademark Office earlier this week, is for "systems and methods for identifying unauthorised users of an electronic device".

Using the software, Apple can remotely access your sensitive information and data, ostensibly to determine if you are an “authorised user”.

Among the information they can access, the system can take a flashless, undetectable photo of the users' face (with the iPhone 4's front-facing camera) and multiple photos of the surrounding location.

It can also record the users' voice regardless of whether they are making a phone call, monitor their internet usage and record the heartbeat and “vibration signature” of the user.

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What they can do and what they are or will do can be two entirely different things.

What value is it to them to have this info on someone that jailbreaks their iPhone/iPod/iPad?

Last Edited by Iteration on 08/27/2010 08:16 PM
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What they can do and what they are or will do can be two entirely different things.

What value is it to them to have this info on someone that jailbreaks their iPhone/iPod/iPad?
 Quoting: Iteration


1) US courts ruled that you are allowed to jailbreak devices like the iPhone, iPad, iWhatever.

2) Apple will use this software to monitor people who use their phones.

3) Even if you own the phone legally, and have legally jailbroken it, they can shut it down without your permission.

4) They can use this software to collect your personal, and biometric data.

5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission.
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08/27/2010 08:22 PM
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just another reason to boycott apple
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I have never bought an Apple product and never will.
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Apple, paving the way of the future.
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?

The tech is their patented, secure device the use of which they lease to you when you buy. Consider your contract a least-purchase agreement, on their terms.

They'll take of picture of you with their equipment if they want to. Good luck.



What they can do and what they are or will do can be two entirely different things.

What value is it to them to have this info on someone that jailbreaks their iPhone/iPod/iPad?


1) US courts ruled that you are allowed to jailbreak devices like the iPhone, iPad, iWhatever.

2) Apple will use this software to monitor people who use their phones.

3) Even if you own the phone legally, and have legally jailbroken it, they can shut it down without your permission.

4) They can use this software to collect your personal, and biometric data.

5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission.
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Wow!

A vibration pattern recorder.

Genius.

They know it was you walking with the phone

by the length of your gait.

:)
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08/27/2010 08:30 PM
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If I had known it did all that I would never have given up an old clunker from years ago. I wonder if my blackberry (not from Apple) does things like that--if not, I won't ever be upgrading my phones anymore.
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i have never taken a photo of myself with my mobile, i cover up the front facing cam on my mobile (same on laptop), i never use my real name or address when registering stuff either.
What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.

We're all gonna die. The only question is when & how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your knees... begging?! I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing!
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lol @ people shelling out $500 for a device they don't even own.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?

The tech is their patented, secure device the use of which they lease to you when you buy. Consider your contract a least-purchase agreement, on their terms.

They'll take of picture of you with their equipment if they want to. Good luck.
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Are you actually saying, that people don't have the right to determine how their property is used?

Also, 9th amendment.
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08/27/2010 08:37 PM
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?

The tech is their patented, secure device the use of which they lease to you when you buy. Consider your contract a least-purchase agreement, on their terms.

They'll take of picture of you with their equipment if they want to. Good luck.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081673


So when I buy something, with my own money (which is inherently my intellectual property) and I choose to use the money to buy THEIR intellectual property, wouldnt it become MY property after?

Or are you just trying to troll people?

Fuck Apple. Fuck Zune. Fuck anyone who pays for shit like that, while people starve in foreign countries waiting desperately to one day come to our "free" nations we call home.

All this spying shit is just more info to add to the Data Mine. They dont give a fuck if you jailbreak your phone, and I'm sure they've added surveillance measures that work in sync with Alphabet agencies.

"Land of the Free" my ass.
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Re: Apple 'traitorware' takes your photo, shuts down your jailbroken device.
[link to www.news.com.au]

Apple 'traitorware' can take your photo and shut down your jailbroken iPhone, iPad

APPLE has been accused of creating "traitorware" for trying to patent security software that tracks down people who jailbreak their iPhones and iPads and locks them out of their devices.

Jailbreaking allows users to access software and features for their devices that have not been sanctioned by Apple.

The process was declared legitimate by a US court earlier this month, but Apple said any such interference in their device will void its warranty.

Apple's patent, which went before the US Patent and Trademark Office earlier this week, is for "systems and methods for identifying unauthorised users of an electronic device".

Using the software, Apple can remotely access your sensitive information and data, ostensibly to determine if you are an “authorised user”.

Among the information they can access, the system can take a flashless, undetectable photo of the users' face (with the iPhone 4's front-facing camera) and multiple photos of the surrounding location.

It can also record the users' voice regardless of whether they are making a phone call, monitor their internet usage and record the heartbeat and “vibration signature” of the user.

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Simple answer,dont buy one bsflag
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i have never taken a photo of myself with my mobile, i cover up the front facing cam on my mobile (same on laptop), i never use my real name or address when registering stuff either.
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lol genius, your NAME and address are attached to the bill your INTERNET "SERVICE" provider sends you.

dont think for a minute some bozo working for CIAda cant track you down within seconds.
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08/27/2010 08:40 PM
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?





 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081673

Ammendment IV

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons,and effects, against unreasonable search and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrents shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the person or things to be siezed"

considering the sanctity of contracts in Article VI, will make for an interesting court case
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what *IF* people take to the streets in protest and carry torches axes and pitch forks along with weapons dangerous ones automatics semi autos and bombs and grenades and just destroy apple main head quarters along with all apple stores? if this happen would it go down in history as apple terrorism? will obama release obamaware fartware doomware and other forms of wareisms ?
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08/27/2010 08:48 PM
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And yet people flock to Apple like its the greatest thing ever. No thanks I will stick with my "uncool" PC Mr. Jobs lol.
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[link to www.news.com.au]

Apple 'traitorware' can take your photo and shut down your jailbroken iPhone, iPad

APPLE has been accused of creating "traitorware" for trying to patent security software that tracks down people who jailbreak their iPhones and iPads and locks them out of their devices.

Jailbreaking allows users to access software and features for their devices that have not been sanctioned by Apple.

The process was declared legitimate by a US court earlier this month, but Apple said any such interference in their device will void its warranty.

Apple's patent, which went before the US Patent and Trademark Office earlier this week, is for "systems and methods for identifying unauthorised users of an electronic device".

Using the software, Apple can remotely access your sensitive information and data, ostensibly to determine if you are an “authorised user”.

Among the information they can access, the system can take a flashless, undetectable photo of the users' face (with the iPhone 4's front-facing camera) and multiple photos of the surrounding location.

It can also record the users' voice regardless of whether they are making a phone call, monitor their internet usage and record the heartbeat and “vibration signature” of the user.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564424


Suggestion for all the APPLE SHEEP out there....

DON'T LIKE IT???
STOP BUYING APPLE Ipad and Iphone PRODUCTS.


You hit them where it hurts....IN THE WALLET.






Idol1 agent
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08/27/2010 08:51 PM
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Well then we should have the right to access this program too.

I can't wait for this to be hacked, it will be the end of Apple.

Just think, users accessing others users phone-iPods-iPads ect with a program written and installed by Apple.

SWEET....... 5a
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Mass migration from Iphone. I predict therefore.
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i have never taken a photo of myself with my mobile, i cover up the front facing cam on my mobile (same on laptop), i never use my real name or address when registering stuff either.


lol genius, your NAME and address are attached to the bill your INTERNET "SERVICE" provider sends you.

dont think for a minute some bozo working for CIAda cant track you down within seconds.
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She said she doesn't register in her real name.

My ISP account isn't in my real name either, so shut up man,
don't think that everything is under the thumb of control.
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and so it begins...
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Mass migration from Iphone. I predict therefore.
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...as long as the SHEEP don't migrate to Droid based phones.

They would then go from being PW3ND by APPLE to PW3ND by Google and the CIA.

rrmrpdpk sheepchew
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i have never taken a photo of myself with my mobile, i cover up the front facing cam on my mobile (same on laptop), i never use my real name or address when registering stuff either.


lol genius, your NAME and address are attached to the bill your INTERNET "SERVICE" provider sends you.

dont think for a minute some bozo working for CIAda cant track you down within seconds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 995546



no it isn't, i don't pay the bill & my mobile isn't a contract one so when i set up the phone & had to phone them i gave a real name & address that was in the phonebook & not my own.
What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.

We're all gonna die. The only question is when & how you check out. Do you want it on your feet? Or on your knees... begging?! I ain't much for begging! Nobody ever gave me nothing!
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Imagine Apple updates:

Secret Spy Program 2.2 - Fixes security issues with unauthorized hackers hacking into earlier releases of Apples Secret Spying Software.
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I own an iPhone and I was paranoid about this at first, but I think this is so the can make push into the enterprise. Blackberry who owns corporate America can do all those this except take photos. Blackberrys Enterprise Server, you can wipe it, push software, delete software, control who logs in etc. More iPhones are coming into corporate America and Apple needs to be able to have those features in order to compete. I am sure when Windows 7 devices come out, they will do the same stuff and I am sure Google has something similar. So right now I am taking a wait and see about this, I don't think they will wipe everyone's devices that have been jailbroken. I think there is really nothing here to see, so far.
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?

The tech is their patented, secure device the use of which they lease to you when you buy. Consider your contract a least-purchase agreement, on their terms.

They'll take of picture of you with their equipment if they want to. Good luck.





What they can do and what they are or will do can be two entirely different things.

What value is it to them to have this info on someone that jailbreaks their iPhone/iPod/iPad?


1) US courts ruled that you are allowed to jailbreak devices like the iPhone, iPad, iWhatever.

2) Apple will use this software to monitor people who use their phones.

3) Even if you own the phone legally, and have legally jailbroken it, they can shut it down without your permission.

4) They can use this software to collect your personal, and biometric data.

5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission.

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its eavesdropping and its illegal
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They license the software that runs on the hardware you buy. Yes you own the hardware, but you license the software that they own.
When you install Windows it asks you to agree or disagree with the software license, which you do not own, same with OSX. You do not own the software, they do. You only own the hardware that the software runs on.
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"5) People have a right to not be recorded by their own property, without their permission."

Where do I find that in the Constitution?





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See the Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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