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Anonymous Coward User ID: 773494 United States 08/28/2010 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad he didn't spell out what a hostile act is. Are we talking buying thousands of pounds of TNT when you are holding blueprints for its placement in a government building or are we talking insulting the President here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1082089 Canada 08/28/2010 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too bad he didn't spell out what a hostile act is. Are we talking buying thousands of pounds of TNT when you are holding blueprints for its placement in a government building or are we talking insulting the President here? Quoting: FaithThere was a pinned thread yesturday of someone being arrested for an "impeach obama" sign |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1008531 United States 08/28/2010 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, that would be the same administration whose Homeland Security Secretary has classified veterans, retired law enforcement, Ron Paul supporters, and conservatives as “terrorists.” |
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Resister User ID: 920760 United States 08/28/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his time as a POW that RINO, back stabing, amnesty wanting, traitor to conservatives should know better. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
BROKEN User ID: 1080426 United States 08/28/2010 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your rights will all be stripped away, under the guise of "national security". And you'll all still be distracted by hating everyone around you... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082089and American Idol and the NFL isn't helping anything either..not that I am against these things..but when people care more for these things... than their Rights...we are fucked. Last Edited by BROKEN on 08/28/2010 11:49 AM "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover "Those who make Peaceful Revolution Impossible...Will make Violent Revolution Inevitable" -JFK :minimoran: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073144 United States 08/28/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | senile old illuminatti codger..... give him his meds... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082192give him an extra dose today. hopefully when Obamacare starts McDirtball will be on the list to inform him of his death options. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1008531 United States 08/28/2010 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | senile old illuminatti codger..... give him his meds... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073144give him an extra dose today. hopefully when Obamacare starts McDirtball will be on the list to inform him of his death options. I think they gave him to much already, somehow he still thinks he's republican. |
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fluffyfuzzies.com User ID: 1082109 United States 08/28/2010 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last week, John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1008531The stated purpose of S. 3081 (The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act) reads: “To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.” The bill has nine co-sponsors including Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA). [link to www.examiner.com] Hello, We look at a tree one at a time. We donot look at what is behind that one tree. If you will look at what is behind that one tree at which you are agonizing, you will see behind it there is an all consuming number of trees which make up a vast, dark, ominous forest, and it was (in my time) called "Communism", which is now called NWO (New World Order), which, after the pretty feathers drop off, you will see is slavery plain and simply. Truth will set you free John 8:32 Truth will set you free John 8:32 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081379 United States 08/28/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is also from the article. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1008531Of course, that would be the same administration whose Homeland Security Secretary has classified veterans, retired law enforcement, Ron Paul supporters, and conservatives as “terrorists.” I'm glad I'm not in that group. I'm a member of CODEPINK, we are safe right? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 960776 United States 08/28/2010 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was actually introduced in march. there is an exact duplicate bill in the house, hr.4892. these both could be passed into law at they same time one morning and signed by the president by noon. these were to be the answer to the "underwear bomber" being read his rights within an hour, but lets look at them: PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP - group appointed by president to determine who is an enemy belligerent. FINAL DETERMINATION - done within 48 HRS. determined by attorney general and sec of defense (both appointed by the pres). if they cant decide, president decides. CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES - lists a few official sounding reasons but then lists "Such other matters as the President considers appropriate." DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS - An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent...may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities" Lets review, because of underwear bomber was read his rights to quickly by the presidents DOJ, McCain leads legislation that would give president power to detain anyone with charges and trials. determination is done by people appointed by the president or the president himself. HMMMMMM, that doesnt seem to solve the issue!! Wake up people!! s.3081: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] hr.4892: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1008531 United States 08/28/2010 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was actually introduced in march. there is an exact duplicate bill in the house, hr.4892. these both could be passed into law at they same time one morning and signed by the president by noon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 960776these were to be the answer to the "underwear bomber" being read his rights within an hour, but lets look at them: PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP - group appointed by president to determine who is an enemy belligerent. FINAL DETERMINATION - done within 48 HRS. determined by attorney general and sec of defense (both appointed by the pres). if they cant decide, president decides. CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES - lists a few official sounding reasons but then lists "Such other matters as the President considers appropriate." DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS - An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent...may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities" Lets review, because of underwear bomber was read his rights to quickly by the presidents DOJ, McCain leads legislation that would give president power to detain anyone with charges and trials. determination is done by people appointed by the president or the president himself. HMMMMMM, that doesnt seem to solve the issue!! Wake up people!! s.3081: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] hr.4892: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] Have these been voted on yet? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001177 United States 08/28/2010 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his time as a POW that RINO, back stabing, amnesty wanting, traitor to conservatives should know better. Quoting: ResisterThis just proves to me my theory that he was never a POW at all, I wonder if he was on some top secret lizard mission. |
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ZOSIME User ID: 700640 United States 08/28/2010 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last week, John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1008531The stated purpose of S. 3081 (The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act) reads: “To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.” The bill has nine co-sponsors including Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA). [link to www.examiner.com] I'll read the bill I have a feeling they might be trying to do the right thing but it would back fire and be used against us later. I'll read the entire bill |
BROKEN User ID: 1080426 United States 08/28/2010 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After his time as a POW that RINO, back stabing, amnesty wanting, traitor to conservatives should know better. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001177This just proves to me my theory that he was never a POW at all, I wonder if he was on some top secret lizard mission. Don't forget..The Supreme Court ruled the other day..You can now lie about receiving Medals of Honour/Valor. And it is protected under the First Amendment. Free Speech. "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover "Those who make Peaceful Revolution Impossible...Will make Violent Revolution Inevitable" -JFK :minimoran: |
TeamReaper User ID: 960776 United States 08/28/2010 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was actually introduced in march. there is an exact duplicate bill in the house, hr.4892. these both could be passed into law at they same time one morning and signed by the president by noon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1008531these were to be the answer to the "underwear bomber" being read his rights within an hour, but lets look at them: PRELIMINARY DETERMINATION BY HIGH-VALUE DETAINEE INTERROGATION GROUP - group appointed by president to determine who is an enemy belligerent. FINAL DETERMINATION - done within 48 HRS. determined by attorney general and sec of defense (both appointed by the pres). if they cant decide, president decides. CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES - lists a few official sounding reasons but then lists "Such other matters as the President considers appropriate." DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS - An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent...may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities" Lets review, because of underwear bomber was read his rights to quickly by the presidents DOJ, McCain leads legislation that would give president power to detain anyone with charges and trials. determination is done by people appointed by the president or the president himself. HMMMMMM, that doesnt seem to solve the issue!! Wake up people!! s.3081: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] hr.4892: [link to frwebgate.access.gpo.gov] Have these been voted on yet? not yet, it has been referred to committee: [link to www.govtrack.us] Specifically, Senate Committee on the Judiciary: [link to www.govtrack.us] hr.4892: Has made more progress, need to get it through before they lose seats in the election... if there is one! [link to www.govtrack.us] been referred to the following: House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence [link to www.govtrack.us] House Committee on Armed Services [link to www.govtrack.us] House Committee on the Judiciary [link to www.govtrack.us] In every operation, whether planning it or executing it, you can never count on luck; but you have to accept it, and recognize it when it’s there. -Major ******, U-2 Pilot/Instructor/Flight Commander |
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fillantpre User ID: 628803 United States 08/28/2010 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last week, John McCain introduced a bill into the U.S. Senate which, if passed, would actually allow U.S. citizens to be arrested and detained indefinitely, all without Miranda rights or ever being charged with a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1008531The stated purpose of S. 3081 (The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act) reads: “To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.” The bill has nine co-sponsors including Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA). [link to www.examiner.com] there is a very thin, if not invisible line between the people and so called "terrorists"..........first came domestic terrorists...........such as people who are compassionate enough to break the law to help animals in factory farms and laboratories..........who are suffering hellish nightmares under the guise of "we are working towards a cure for this or that--GREAT WHERE THE HELL IS IT, IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS.............Now we are getting labeled "belligerent and hostile"...........WTH? I'M BELLIGERENT AND HOSTILE SOMETIMES...........and especially when I don't agree with something........ |
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