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2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!

 
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so you admit you know everything about firearms?

im sure hi-points are made from "pot metal" thats a good buisiness model, no way they could get sued for anything.
 Quoting: wolverine


They admit it, retard.

[link to www.shootingtimes.com]

The first thing I noticed was the massive, slab-sided slide with its black, powder coat finish and a rather large ejection port on the right side. These are die cast from an aluminum/zinc alloy with steel inserts reinforcing the entire breech area and other stress points. When I queried Charlie Brown of Hi-Point Firearms about this method of construction, he said: "Blowback firearms are simple and inexpensive to make and will handle a wide spectrum of ammo without problems. In the area of Ohio where we are located, there are many shops that specialize in die casting for the auto industry. We utilize this resource.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The New Jersey Zinc Company developed zamak alloys in 1929. It may be referred to as pot metal or white metal.

Again, thanks for proving that you know jack-shit about firearms.
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08/29/2010 04:42 PM
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 Quoting: wolverine

That's a case failure, idiot.

That means the cartridge wall exploded, not the gun.

That video certainly does NOT show a damaged Glock.
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apparently there are a lot of manufacturers out there using "pot metal" lolz
 Quoting: wolverine

I never said "other guns don't fail, ever", bitch.

I said Hi-Points are made of pot metal, and I'd rather have Carbon steel or stainless steel.
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so you admit you know everything about firearms?

im sure hi-points are made from "pot metal" thats a good buisiness model, no way they could get sued for anything.


They admit it, retard.

[link to www.shootingtimes.com]

The first thing I noticed was the massive, slab-sided slide with its black, powder coat finish and a rather large ejection port on the right side. These are die cast from an aluminum/zinc alloy with steel inserts reinforcing the entire breech area and other stress points. When I queried Charlie Brown of Hi-Point Firearms about this method of construction, he said: "Blowback firearms are simple and inexpensive to make and will handle a wide spectrum of ammo without problems. In the area of Ohio where we are located, there are many shops that specialize in die casting for the auto industry. We utilize this resource.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The New Jersey Zinc Company developed zamak alloys in 1929. It may be referred to as pot metal or white metal.

Again, thanks for proving that you know jack-shit about firearms.
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go look at some pics of broken slides, many are cast not milled. lol your getting sillier by the minute.
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Re: 2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!
Pretty sure I've been shooting longer than you've been breathing (41 years). For the record, I don't have the latest "ninja mall" gun, but a design from 1935.

so you admit you know everything about firearms?
 Quoting: wolverine



I know a scary amount about firearms, have fired about 300 different weapons and owned about 150.
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Pretty sure I've been shooting longer than you've been breathing (41 years). For the record, I don't have the latest "ninja mall" gun, but a design from 1935.

so you admit you know everything about firearms?



I know a scary amount about firearms, have fired about 300 different weapons and owned about 150.
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yeah its scaring me.
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I know a scary amount about firearms, have fired about 300 different weapons and owned about 150.

yeah its scaring me.
 Quoting: wolverine



Well, professional gunsmiths know more and probably a lot of industry writers. But police officers or soldiers? Eh, almost none of them have much interest in the how and why of weapons.

And about 99% of the people on this board know less.

:lamo:
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hi-point haters are know nothing faggots, plain and simple. if hi-points cost $1000 they would praise them up and down.

these are the kids that trade last years"hot new" pistol in for this years "hot new" pistol. every year, to stay "in style" with all the other mall ninjas.

LMAO
What flew up your vagina and died?

Here's your Hi-Point Zamak-3 pot metal.

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See, it's not a matter of Gun snobbery. If that were the point, I wouldn't own a Heritage revolver ($150) or a Kel-Tec 9mm ($250). Along with my Para 1911 ($800).

It's a matter of personal safety. All my cheap guns are made of Carbon or Stainless steel.

Hi-Points are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564424

What a piece of shit!


Holy smokes!
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08/29/2010 05:28 PM
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Re: 2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!
I bought an NEF 22lr 10 shot revolver and put over 12,000 rounds through it. The thing just won't quit. Shoots as well as the day it cam out of the box.
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go look at some pics of broken slides, many are cast not milled. lol your getting sillier by the minute.
 Quoting: wolverine


I never said, other slides are not cast.

So, way to be wrong again Wolverbitch.
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Re: 2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!
Guns and calibers and models and stopping power and tactics are fun to discuss and debate but what I realized around fifteen years ago is that what's really important is

a) convincing someone that a bad outcome is about to commence

b) that outcome can be avoided
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I had thought about getting one of their .45 carbines when they finally started shipping, but those broken slides are making me re-think that. Don't think I want a pot metal receiver shattering inches from my face.

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yeah its scaring me.
 Quoting: wolverine

That's because you are a coward.

Too afraid to face up to what you've said.
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Re: 2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!
my 9mm Baretta jams every 100 rounds or so. My Hi-point 9mm Carbine, Pistol and .45 have never jammed. Very reliable and inexpensive. I sold the Barretta for $450.00-SUCKER!
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I had thought about getting one of their .45 carbines when they finally started shipping, but those broken slides are making me re-think that. Don't think I want a pot metal receiver shattering inches from my face.

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 Quoting: Evil Twin

Yup, the carbines are made of the same stuff.

On the previous page, I posted a video of a front slide fracture of a hi point.

So, it's not just the one hi-point. It's obviously a materials problem.

I hear the 9mm carbines work well, they don't have any real negative reputation. Aside from looking like those ugly-ass guns from Planet of the Apes.
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Re: 2 Years Ago I bought a Hi-Point C9 Comp. Now, I buy every Hi-Point I can afford!
my 9mm Baretta jams every 100 rounds or so. My Hi-point 9mm Carbine, Pistol and .45 have never jammed. Very reliable and inexpensive. I sold the Barretta for $450.00-SUCKER!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1083380

It's only your face, neck, chest, hand and arms right?

LMAO, truth be told though. I would never own a Beretta anyways.

I can't stand slide mounted controls, and it's their goto system.
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I had thought about getting one of their .45 carbines when they finally started shipping, but those broken slides are making me re-think that. Don't think I want a pot metal receiver shattering inches from my face.

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 Quoting: Evil Twin

rifles have slides?
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rifles have slides?
 Quoting: wolverine


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.
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zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.

zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead
 Quoting: wolverine

A standard .40 S&W cartridge generates about 35,000 psi in chamber pressure.

Not much margin for error.
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.

zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead

A standard .40 S&W cartridge generates about 35,000 psi in chamber pressure.

Not much margin for error.
 Quoting: Evil Twin

the slide doesnt see those presures, the barrel does.
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.

zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead
 Quoting: wolverine

You don't even know what that means. Also, Carbon and Stainless steel have more or less double the tensile strength.

You didn't know what Hi-points were made of.
You didn't Zamak-3 is pot metal.
And now you're acting like an expert on it?

LMAO, you fail loser.
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the slide doesnt see those presures, the barrel does.
 Quoting: wolverine

You obviously don't understand how blowback firearms work.
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.

zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead

A standard .40 S&W cartridge generates about 35,000 psi in chamber pressure.

Not much margin for error.

the slide doesnt see those presures, the barrel does.
 Quoting: wolverine

What supports the rear of the cartridge and holds it in the barrel?

The slide, or bolt, which is supported by the pot metal receiver.
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rifles have slides?


Nope, but they have receivers and bolts. Both made of the Zamak-3 pot metal.

zamak 3 has a tensile strength of 40,000 lbs you snapperhead

You don't even know what that means. Also, Carbon and Stainless steel have more or less double the tensile strength.

You didn't know what Hi-points were made of.
You didn't Zamak-3 is pot metal.
And now you're acting like an expert on it?

LMAO, you fail loser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564424

who said i didnt know? maybe i wanted to give you enough rope to hang yourself with bitch-tits.

you use the term "pot metal" to get people to think of cast iron toys or pots that break when dropped on the floor.

you couldnt be more wrong, also hi-points are reinforced in vital areas.

does anybody really think that a company is gonna sell guns that they think will explode in your hands???!!! and give a lifetime warranty too???!!!!

c'mon think. its just "cool" with the mall ninja crowd to poke fun at and quote bullshit statistics about hi-points. end of story.

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who said i didnt know? maybe i wanted to give you enough rope to hang yourself with bitch-tits.

you use the term "pot metal" to get people to think of cast iron toys or pots that break when dropped on the floor.

you couldnt be more wrong, also hi-points are reinforced in vital areas.

does anybody really think that a company is gonna sell guns that they think will explode in your hands???!!! and give a lifetime warranty too???!!!!

c'mon think. its just "cool" with the mall ninja crowd to poke fun at and quote bullshit statistics about hi-points. end of story.
 Quoting: wolverine


I'm the one saying you don't know. Because you have demonstrated ignorance of what Hi-Points are made of, and demonstrated an ignorance of what Zamak-3 is known as.

You claim I am making Zamak-3 sound cheap "pot metal", when the truth is that you just didn't know pot metal was really called Zamak.

BTW, cast iron is not pot metal.

The fact is that Hi-points ARE made of Zamak-3, also known as pot metal. You can try to dispute that all you want, but the company themselves admit it. I am not wrong, I posted the interview where the company itself admits it. You obviously skipped that one up.

Yes, Hi-Point slides do have steel reinforcements. Now go find me a Carbon Steel or Stainless Steel, that needs the same reinforcement. You won't find it, because Zamak-3 is only half as strong as Carbon or Stainless Steel.

I haven't quoted any bullshit statistics. I've shown two different Hi-Points. One in pictures, one on video. Both with slide cracks at different places. And quoted the company themselves.

If proof is bullshit, then so be it. You think proof is bullshit...congratulations.
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The dude's name was Charles Brown? good grief...
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who said i didnt know? maybe i wanted to give you enough rope to hang yourself with bitch-tits.

you use the term "pot metal" to get people to think of cast iron toys or pots that break when dropped on the floor.

you couldnt be more wrong, also hi-points are reinforced in vital areas.

does anybody really think that a company is gonna sell guns that they think will explode in your hands???!!! and give a lifetime warranty too???!!!!

c'mon think. its just "cool" with the mall ninja crowd to poke fun at and quote bullshit statistics about hi-points. end of story.


I'm the one saying you don't know. Because you have demonstrated ignorance of what Hi-Points are made of, and demonstrated an ignorance of what Zamak-3 is known as.

You claim I am making Zamak-3 sound cheap "pot metal", when the truth is that you just didn't know pot metal was really called Zamak.

BTW, cast iron is not pot metal.

The fact is that Hi-points ARE made of Zamak-3, also known as pot metal. You can try to dispute that all you want, but the company themselves admit it. I am not wrong, I posted the interview where the company itself admits it. You obviously skipped that one up.

Yes, Hi-Point slides do have steel reinforcements. Now go find me a Carbon Steel or Stainless Steel, that needs the same reinforcement. You won't find it, because Zamak-3 is only half as strong as Carbon or Stainless Steel.

I haven't quoted any bullshit statistics. I've shown two different Hi-Points. One in pictures, one on video. Both with slide cracks at different places. And quoted the company themselves.

If proof is bullshit, then so be it. You think proof is bullshit...congratulations.
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i accept your surrender.
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What surrender? Bitch.
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i accept your surrender.


What surrender? Bitch.
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your surrender junior! i accept it although i cant say i wont think less of you for it.
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