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DEMANDS, AS THE GREAT MAGICIAN HAS WRITTEN: MAGICIAN IS ALL OF US

 
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First I have to admit there are two Michaels in that reality, Christ Michael and Archangel Michael. However according to tales of the elohims, their magicians have tried to get rid of the great deceiver or master of lies but they all died, thus the great deceiver has an uncontested power. The Great Magician comes out of a tale of the Elohim, opposite of the Annunakis. Thus if there were a fight of the Great Magician against religion or NWO, it would be the boss of the Elohim against the boss of the Annunakis. Would be great but I would not hold on my breath.

The name "Michael" IS a role, anyway, a function, not the name of an entity.
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Hi, my name is Christopher Michael and I'm VERY VERY interested in what you said about the name "Michael" being a 'role' because I've always felt that our names play a very crucial part in our purpose and destiny here on this planet. After a dream that I had when I was about 12yrs old I decided to start going by "Michael" because that is what I was "told" to do and even though to this day I can't explain it I always felt like Jacob being given the name Israel or Abram being given the name Abraham.

From that day I was not Chris anymore, I was Michael and that is who I am to this day. Although, I feel that having the name Christopher as my first name is a reminder to put Christ first in my life and to always remember that I am a vessel, a Christ-bearer. I know "Michael" commonly means "who is like God" but what else do you know about this name? And please elaborate on the differences between Christ Michael and Archangel Michael.

I remember before I even began to search for the truth; I had just suffered a major drug overdose and I died for a brief period of time before I was resuscitated and that night when I came home from the hospital I was praying and asking God to please give me some kind of purpose..something to give my life meaning and value..to please reveal what I'm supposed to do and His plan for my life. Right as I was praying to Him I heard a loud thump in the living room and I came out and saw that my bible that had been neatly placed on the bookshelf had mysteriously fallen off and landed face down on the floor..and when I picked it up it had fallen right on Daniel 12 and I read;

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12 but when I read it I felt so comforted and so assured and never before had I felt so positive that God had just given me my answer. I knew that God's plan for me was to help those who are asleep in the dust of the earth to wake up! To this day I keep that verse to myself as it gives me so much strength and determination and encouragement to know that God intends for me to do great things and to make a difference in this life, and in the world to come.

Anyway, I've rambled on long enough but I am very curious about what you said. I'll be looking forward to your response.
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how can the Anunnaki be opposite of the Elohims?


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perception....

look up at any ceiling fan....if it is turning clockwise, then that same motion would appear as counter-clockwise if you were above the same fan looking down at it....
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First I have to admit there are two Michaels in that reality, Christ Michael and Archangel Michael. However according to tales of the elohims, their magicians have tried to get rid of the great deceiver or master of lies but they all died, thus the great deceiver has an uncontested power. The Great Magician comes out of a tale of the Elohim, opposite of the Annunakis. Thus if there were a fight of the Great Magician against religion or NWO, it would be the boss of the Elohim against the boss of the Annunakis. Would be great but I would not hold on my breath.

The name "Michael" IS a role, anyway, a function, not the name of an entity.


Hi, my name is Christopher Michael and I'm VERY VERY interested in what you said about the name "Michael" being a 'role' because I've always felt that our names play a very crucial part in our purpose and destiny here on this planet. After a dream that I had when I was about 12yrs old I decided to start going by "Michael" because that is what I was "told" to do and even though to this day I can't explain it I always felt like Jacob being given the name Israel or Abram being given the name Abraham.

From that day I was not Chris anymore, I was Michael and that is who I am to this day. Although, I feel that having the name Christopher as my first name is a reminder to put Christ first in my life and to always remember that I am a vessel, a Christ-bearer. I know "Michael" commonly means "who is like God" but what else do you know about this name? And please elaborate on the differences between Christ Michael and Archangel Michael.

I remember before I even began to search for the truth; I had just suffered a major drug overdose and I died for a brief period of time before I was resuscitated and that night when I came home from the hospital I was praying and asking God to please give me some kind of purpose..something to give my life meaning and value..to please reveal what I'm supposed to do and His plan for my life. Right as I was praying to Him I heard a loud thump in the living room and I came out and saw that my bible that had been neatly placed on the bookshelf had mysteriously fallen off and landed face down on the floor..and when I picked it up it had fallen right on Daniel 12 and I read;

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12 but when I read it I felt so comforted and so assured and never before had I felt so positive that God had just given me my answer. I knew that God's plan for me was to help those who are asleep in the dust of the earth to wake up! To this day I keep that verse to myself as it gives me so much strength and determination and encouragement to know that God intends for me to do great things and to make a difference in this life, and in the world to come.

Anyway, I've rambled on long enough but I am very curious about what you said. I'll be looking forward to your response.
 Quoting: wiseserpentgentledove


This thread is getting very interesting to say the least.
I, personally, felt that God has something much more planned for me. I can't explain it, I can just feel it. However, I have not had any signs like yourself. Keep your eyes and heart open and God bless.
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Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12
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My name is Daniel....

The book of Daniel has always been 'personal' to me....
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i don't know much about the lion being, can you explain more what that, or those, being represent?
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The Griffin....

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Enuma ilu aweluma

Ardu Shamash apkallu baru

Nergal ina ramanisu

Annu ki-utu kam ilu......

Parak simati

Muballit mitte

Nergal allatu mellamu mesaru

La tapallah Annuaki.......
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Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12


My name is Daniel....

The book of Daniel has always been 'personal' to me....
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Hi Daniel! It's very nice to meet you! I've been lurking on GLP for quite some time but only until recently have I been actively making posts and replies and such. It's been a while since I've had steady access to the computer to have time for such things.

I'm very, very intrigued..would you please be so kind as to elaborate on how the book of Daniel has been 'personal' to you; what experiences, dreams, visions and such have you had that makes you resonate so strongly with what was written.

I'm not going to lie, I've always struggled so much in my faith and in prayer because I feel that God has a big plan for me but I've been wavering so much and falling so far from the heavenly standards He has set for me and I'm scared that He will give up on me because there's been so many times I so foolishly blamed Him for the disappointments and tragedies in my life that I deliberately chose to, for a time, to give up on Him.

But it breaks my heart almost to the point of tears to know that I have done that and I pray and seek forgiveness for my many sins that are piled up so high they reach the stars. And all I want is to hear His voice again; to have him point me in the right direction, to take this crazy mixed up mess of a life I've made for myself and help me to make sense of it all and to help me to Love more and to Forgive more and to give me the power to break free from my additions and all that which has me bound.

I'm so happy to have met someone who, I feel, shares sort of the same convictions and maybe we may have answers for each other or something to teach one another; perhaps a Word or two, who knows? I will pray and be looking forward to hearing back from you as I must be going now. Thank you for the reply!

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Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12


My name is Daniel....

The book of Daniel has always been 'personal' to me....


Hi Daniel! It's very nice to meet you! I've been lurking on GLP for quite some time but only until recently have I been actively making posts and replies and such. It's been a while since I've had steady access to the computer to have time for such things.

I'm very, very intrigued..would you please be so kind as to elaborate on how the book of Daniel has been 'personal' to you; what experiences, dreams, visions and such have you had that makes you resonate so strongly with what was written.

I'm not going to lie, I've always struggled so much in my faith and in prayer because I feel that God has a big plan for me but I've been wavering so much and falling so far from the heavenly standards He has set for me and I'm scared that He will give up on me because there's been so many times I so foolishly blamed Him for the disappointments and tragedies in my life that I deliberately chose to, for a time, to give up on Him.

But it breaks my heart almost to the point of tears to know that I have done that and I pray and seek forgiveness for my many sins that are piled up so high they reach the stars. And all I want is to hear His voice again; to have him point me in the right direction, to take this crazy mixed up mess of a life I've made for myself and help me to make sense of it all and to help me to Love more and to Forgive more and to give me the power to break free from my additions and all that which has me bound.

I'm so happy to have met someone who, I feel, shares sort of the same convictions and maybe we may have answers for each other or something to teach one another; perhaps a Word or two, who knows? I will pray and be looking forward to hearing back from you as I must be going now. Thank you for the reply!

Michael
 Quoting: wiseserpentgentledove


hello Michael....

Daniel is a tale of harmony....when God could be found in all things....

Yet God never 'speaks'....

Daniel isn't considered a profit like others in the Bible, becasue God never directlty spoke to Daniel....

Yet Daniel may have had more contact with God than most of them....

Daniel's true gift was language....
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As far as Michael....

he is an archangel....

He is to help Garbriel....

an archangel....

According to Daniel....




and archangel is ark angel....

when you blow the horn....
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And when Gabriel becomes Jibriel....then the barrier will move....

Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move."
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And when Gabriel becomes Jibriel....then the barrier will move....

Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move."
 Quoting: Sugarelf


THANK YOU! And hello! :) :peace:

Can you please explain this more? When Gabriel becomes Jibriel then the barrier will move; what barrier? And what is the significance of Gabriel becoming Jibriel. When does this take place? And what is Michael's role? Does Michael have any relation to Mishael in Daniel also? Or is Michael the fourth, that looked like the son of the gods? I know it says Michael will go to war with the Dragon in the final days; what do you know about this war? Get me up to speed! ;)

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Daniel is a tale of harmony....when God could be found in all things....

Yet God never 'speaks'....

Daniel isn't considered a profit like others in the Bible, becasue God never directlty spoke to Daniel....

Yet Daniel may have had more contact with God than most of them....

Daniel's true gift was language....
 Quoting: Sugarelf



WOW, I understand this so much clearer now and I've been reading through Daniel again and the flood gates are opening up and the wisdom and insight is coming in as if I'd read it for the very first time! I'm only to the part about the Writing on the Wall..will be done with it by the end of the night but have to go pick a relative up from work so I am in a hurry but wanted to reply to you to keep the conversation alive! I relate so much to what you said because I yearn for that world where God COULD befound in all things..so much it makes me homesick. And it's not that I despise God's creation but man has corrupted it so much that at times it becomes almost unbearable. But then I'm reminded that Yahshua said those who love their lives and try to save it will lose them but those who lose their lives for the sake of the Kingdom will gain it and more abundantly and for eternity. I just want the truth. The veil is so thick and it's so difficult but at times I've been able to peer through and what I've seen and what I've heard and what I've experienced is so incredible and overwhelming and I can't wait for the day that the Sons and Daughters of God will finally be revealed and that the Dragon will be defeated once and for all. Some day. Maybe not in my lifetime, but who knows? No man knows the day nor the hour right? All we know is it is coming soon! ;) Praise God!
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And when Gabriel becomes Jibriel....then the barrier will move....

Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move."


THANK YOU! And hello! :) :peace:

Can you please explain this more? When Gabriel becomes Jibriel then the barrier will move; what barrier? And what is the significance of Gabriel becoming Jibriel. When does this take place? And what is Michael's role? Does Michael have any relation to Mishael in Daniel also? Or is Michael the fourth, that looked like the son of the gods? I know it says Michael will go to war with the Dragon in the final days; what do you know about this war? Get me up to speed! ;)

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Daniel tells of a time when two great souls came together....the soul of two nations....came together as one....

When El was Deus....And Deus is Duece....

it was a magical time....when men could hear with their eyes and see with there ears....when man could speak to man....

When Gabriel could speak to Jibirel....

the magic of the speech is in the spells....

spells....spe ells....speak els....


as any magician knows....all about the spells....


there is magic in the book of Daniel....especially when you see the bridge to Luke 2:2....
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Star in the East....

Star East....

East Star....

Easter....


Gift of the Magi....

The magical sound of the 'g' in Magi....
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....MAGICIAN IS ALL OF US
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so yes....magician is a ll of us....an eleven of us....11 of SU....

SU = Shu

the letter h is a magical letter in itself....and I'm sHure about that....

Papyrus....Egypt....the papyrus....


....Despite being a god of sunlight, Shu was not considered to be a solar deity. He was, though, connected to the sun god as one who was thought to bring Ra (and the pharaoh) to life each morning, raising the sun into the sky.

During his travels through the underworld, he protected Ra from the snake-demon Apep, with spells to counteract the serpent and his followers....



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I know it says Michael will go to war with the Dragon in the final days; what do you know about this war? Get me up to speed! ;)
 Quoting: wiseserpentgentledove


Dragon....D ra gon....4 Ra go....For Ra go....

The dragon's breath....that is what the fight is about....and the power of the tongue....
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the magician has died
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we don't fear death. death is not a threat.
I overcome my shyness with rudeness and belligerence.

my grandmother said
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"MAGICIAN IS ALL OF US"

to be more precise : the Magician Operates through us
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the magician has died

we don't fear death. death is not a threat.
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it is that f ear that holds one back....those with f in their ears....



'the' always dies....'a' lives forever....
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the magician has died

we don't fear death. death is not a threat.


it is that f ear that holds one back....those with f in their ears....

'the' always dies....'a' lives forever....
 Quoting: Sugarelf


death isnt a threat and shouldnt be. too bad but brains wash easy that way. the truth is heard but not followed yes as so many do not hear. blink

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"MAGICIAN IS ALL OF US"

to be more precise : the Magician Operates through us
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interesting spell you cast there....

operates....yea what are the opra rates ??


Operate....the O is special....the ring....weddings....always....

O = always

Operate....O per ate....Always per 8


And machines operate....computers operate....they are always per the eight....


A magician who operates will never die....and will never live....
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Go for it Magician, I'm with ya happydance
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the magician has died

we don't fear death. death is not a threat.


it is that f ear that holds one back....those with f in their ears....

'the' always dies....'a' lives forever....


death isnt a threat and shouldnt be. too bad but brains wash easy that way. the truth is heard but not followed yes as so many do not hear. blink
 Quoting: MYoMY

Death is no escape.
It is just a reset.
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First I have to admit there are two Michaels in that reality, Christ Michael and Archangel Michael. However according to tales of the elohims, their magicians have tried to get rid of the great deceiver or master of lies but they all died, thus the great deceiver has an uncontested power. The Great Magician comes out of a tale of the Elohim, opposite of the Annunakis. Thus if there were a fight of the Great Magician against religion or NWO, it would be the boss of the Elohim against the boss of the Annunakis. Would be great but I would not hold on my breath.

The name "Michael" IS a role, anyway, a function, not the name of an entity.


Hi, my name is Christopher Michael and I'm VERY VERY interested in what you said about the name "Michael" being a 'role' because I've always felt that our names play a very crucial part in our purpose and destiny here on this planet. After a dream that I had when I was about 12yrs old I decided to start going by "Michael" because that is what I was "told" to do and even though to this day I can't explain it I always felt like Jacob being given the name Israel or Abram being given the name Abraham.

From that day I was not Chris anymore, I was Michael and that is who I am to this day. Although, I feel that having the name Christopher as my first name is a reminder to put Christ first in my life and to always remember that I am a vessel, a Christ-bearer. I know "Michael" commonly means "who is like God" but what else do you know about this name? And please elaborate on the differences between Christ Michael and Archangel Michael.

I remember before I even began to search for the truth; I had just suffered a major drug overdose and I died for a brief period of time before I was resuscitated and that night when I came home from the hospital I was praying and asking God to please give me some kind of purpose..something to give my life meaning and value..to please reveal what I'm supposed to do and His plan for my life. Right as I was praying to Him I heard a loud thump in the living room and I came out and saw that my bible that had been neatly placed on the bookshelf had mysteriously fallen off and landed face down on the floor..and when I picked it up it had fallen right on Daniel 12 and I read;

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

Now, I'm not some egotistical, messianic maniac that thinks I am THE Michael mentioned in Daniel 12 but when I read it I felt so comforted and so assured and never before had I felt so positive that God had just given me my answer. I knew that God's plan for me was to help those who are asleep in the dust of the earth to wake up! To this day I keep that verse to myself as it gives me so much strength and determination and encouragement to know that God intends for me to do great things and to make a difference in this life, and in the world to come.

Anyway, I've rambled on long enough but I am very curious about what you said. I'll be looking forward to your response.
 Quoting: wiseserpentgentledove


I can't tell your path for you, thus I should not advise you that way. My path may not be the same as the mainstream Christian path. Just take care when you see the name Michael, one of both is the false angel of light at best. God does not intend anything from you. If you think God will command you to do anything, you are still on the wide path to destruction. God advises through his messengers at the best. If there is something that has to be, the whole thread of circumstances will be changed to bring you where you out to be, according to your freewill. You are free to decide which path you want to take. You are not free to decide what happens next and God has always the last word.
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Just take care when you see the name Michael, one of both is the false angel of light at best.

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always take care....take c are....

there is no care in 1 = 1


false means opposite more than it means wrong....

If al seE.... 2 = 1
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the magician has died

we don't fear death. death is not a threat.


it is that f ear that holds one back....those with f in their ears....

'the' always dies....'a' lives forever....


death isnt a threat and shouldnt be. too bad but brains wash easy that way. the truth is heard but not followed yes as so many do not hear. blink
 Quoting: MYoMY


to hear requires a heart....

hear = hearT
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Magician is the Magician card in Tarot, he is Mercurius of the Great Work, the Hermaphrodite who has mastered the Above and the Below of the Great Work and achieves immortality,

THis teaching has been passed down for thousands of years,

All Mystics and Pagans know this story. Youre on a conspiracy site so you probaly havent heard of it.

Where have you been, cave?.

Yes, Mercury is now in Virgo. So lets see what is birthed,

The Magician is also Christ.
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09/03/2010 02:01 AM
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And No, lol. A wise one doesnt fight the New World Order or anyone, He fights himself . the Fight is Within.

As Jesus said, "No man is good, not one. " And he asked us to look in the Mirror,

To be a True Magician is changing yourself over.
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To be a True Magician is changing yourself over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938842


only true to one that way....


True Magician is changing ourselfs over....

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