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VA Killing Veterans With Dangerous PTSD Drug

 
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Andrew White returned from a nine-month tour in Iraq beset with signs of post-traumatic stress disorder: insomnia, nightmares, constant restlessness. Doctors tried to ease his symptoms using three psychiatric drugs, including a potent anti-psychotic called Seroquel.

Thousands of soldiers suffering from PTSD have received the same medication over the last nine years, helping to make Seroquel one of the Veteran Affairs Department's top drug expenditures and the No. 5 best-selling drug in the nation.

Several soldiers and veterans have died while taking the pills, raising concerns among some military families that the government is not being up front about the drug's risks. They want Congress to investigate.

In White's case, the nightmares persisted. So doctors recommended progressively larger doses of Seroquel. At one point, the 23-year-old Marine corporal was prescribed more than 1,600 milligrams per day - more than double the maximum dose recommended for schizophrenia patients.

A short time later, White died in his sleep.

"He was told if he had trouble sleeping he could take another (Seroquel) pill," said his father, Stan White, a retired high school principal.

An investigation by the Veterans Affairs Department concluded that White died from a rare drug interaction. He was also taking an antidepressant and an anti-anxiety pill, as well as a painkiller for which he did not have a prescription. Inspectors concluded he received the "standard of care" for his condition.

It's unclear how many soldiers have died while taking Seroquel, or if the drug definitely contributed to the deaths. White has confirmed at least a half-dozen deaths among soldiers on Seroquel, and he believes there may be many others.

Spending for Seroquel by the government's military medical systems has increased more than sevenfold since the start of the war in Afghanistan in 2001, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act. That by far outpaces the growth in personnel who have gone through the system in that time.

Seroquel is approved to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression, but it has not been endorsed by the Food and Drug Administration as a treatment for insomnia. However, psychiatrists are permitted to prescribe approved drugs for other uses in a common practice known as "off-label" prescribing.

But the drug's potential side effects, including diabetes, weight gain and uncontrollable muscle spasms, have resulted in thousands of lawsuits. While on Seroquel, White gained 40 pounds and experienced slurred speech, disorientation and tremors - all known side effects.

Last year, researchers at Vanderbilt University published a study suggesting a new risk: sudden heart failure.

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08/30/2010 07:36 PM
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While simultaneously ignoring drugs that actually work like mushrooms and MDMA.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.
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Cocaine works best for insomnia. If you can't sleep, might as well party.
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08/30/2010 07:42 PM
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pharma is bad for you and you know it vets

be smarter now dump the pills

do not take any hallucinogenic drugs either we do not want to have to babysit you all and you will need it


if they cannot help you without drugs then they do not know how to help you, make them help you find alternative ways to cope only please
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do not take any hallucinogenic drugs either we do not want to have to babysit you all and you will need it
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If would have to be in good set and setting with someone guiding them through the experience.

Every time an illegal drug gets spoken of on this forum, misinformation spews like crazy, it's pretty funny. Actually that happens everywhere but I would think more people on a conspiracy site would be open minded.
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08/30/2010 08:01 PM
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For insomnia:

melatonin up to 3 mg (natural hormone)
calcium (mineral)
OTC Benadryl
GABA 750 mg (amino acid)

This combo is much safer than any Seroquel toxic pharma crap!

Last Edited by SmartestOne on 08/30/2010 08:01 PM
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For insomnia:

melatonin up to 3 mg (natural hormone)
calcium (mineral)
OTC Benadryl
GABA 750 mg (amino acid)

This combo is much safer than any Seroquel toxic pharma crap!
 Quoting: SmartestOne

you forgot magnesium with the calcium
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.
 Quoting: Mothball

dude, that's a lot of meds.............omg

I only take a 1/2 celexa one day on, and a whole one day on, and a half a unisom--valium, only when I am manic and going to start blasting off to the moon........other than that, I just take liquid cal-mag, Vit D3, evening primrose oil, CoQ10 (100 mg.) with hawthorn berry, probiotics, L-Carnitine and a vitamin with greens in it..........and dyazide to keep my blood pressure in order and nasonex for my crappy sinuses......and an inhaler only when I cannot breathe.........which is usually when I am freaked out or have a bad cold...........but, I keep the psych meds down to a dull roar...........
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.


Cocaine works best for insomnia. If you can't sleep, might as well party.
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I certainly hope he is kidding about all those psych meds........they all interact with each other.....and I hope you are kidding about the coke.
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Much ado about nothing !

Just think of how much money the government SAVES, now that he and others are dead !

Also, cuts down on the number of psychos needed to treat them. MORE savings, so Obammy and the Demoturds can SPEND MORE
and hire MORE Zars, pay off ACORN guys to pimp white, teen girls.
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For insomnia:

melatonin up to 3 mg (natural hormone)
calcium (mineral)
OTC Benadryl
GABA 750 mg (amino acid)

This combo is much safer than any Seroquel toxic pharma crap!
 Quoting: SmartestOne

i take 3 melatonins a nite, works like a charm.
they are also a powerful antioxidant.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.


Cocaine works best for insomnia. If you can't sleep, might as well party.

I certainly hope he is kidding about all those psych meds........they all interact with each other.....and I hope you are kidding about the coke.
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There are 2 things I never joke about and cocaine is one of them.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.

dude, that's a lot of meds.............omg

I only take a 1/2 celexa one day on, and a whole one day on, and a half a unisom--valium, only when I am manic and going to start blasting off to the moon........other than that, I just take liquid cal-mag, Vit D3, evening primrose oil, CoQ10 (100 mg.) with hawthorn berry, probiotics, L-Carnitine and a vitamin with greens in it..........and dyazide to keep my blood pressure in order and nasonex for my crappy sinuses......and an inhaler only when I cannot breathe.........which is usually when I am freaked out or have a bad cold...........but, I keep the psych meds down to a dull roar...........

 Quoting: fillantpre 1084522



YOu people are killing yourselves with drugs and your doctors are complacent in your murder. Your poor body's are under assault.

Dump the phama drugs and go to an herbalist,naturalist,nutritionist and or someone who practices chinese medicine.

How much more in your face will it take for you to understand that pharma drugs CAUSE the very things they allege to cure.

Flush all our pharma drugs down the toilet.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.


Cocaine works best for insomnia. If you can't sleep, might as well party.

I certainly hope he is kidding about all those psych meds........they all interact with each other.....and I hope you are kidding about the coke.


There are 2 things I never joke about and cocaine is one of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1080876

I'm not kidding about the meds. 9mg invega,1200mg lithium,forget how much prozac or seroquel. That is what I've been prescribed for years. I've been on most every anti psychotic,anti depressant and mood stablizer. The only one that I think really helps is the lithium but I take them all to be sure. Without the meds I'm hosed.
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I take lithium,invega,prozac and seroquel. Have never had problems with the seroquel health wise but it leaves me feeling like a veg and very tired for days after taking it. I'm only given it to help with insomnia but usually skip it as the insomnia is better than feeling sedated.

dude, that's a lot of meds.............omg

I only take a 1/2 celexa one day on, and a whole one day on, and a half a unisom--valium, only when I am manic and going to start blasting off to the moon........other than that, I just take liquid cal-mag, Vit D3, evening primrose oil, CoQ10 (100 mg.) with hawthorn berry, probiotics, L-Carnitine and a vitamin with greens in it..........and dyazide to keep my blood pressure in order and nasonex for my crappy sinuses......and an inhaler only when I cannot breathe.........which is usually when I am freaked out or have a bad cold...........but, I keep the psych meds down to a dull roar...........




YOu people are killing yourselves with drugs and your doctors are complacent in your murder. Your poor body's are under assault.

Dump the phama drugs and go to an herbalist,naturalist,nutritionist and or someone who practices chinese medicine.

How much more in your face will it take for you to understand that pharma drugs CAUSE the very things they allege to cure.

Flush all our pharma drugs down the toilet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1065060

The drugs are no doubt destroying my body for sure and I would bet they have taken years off my lifespan. But without them I'd find myself back in a psychiatric facility pretty quick.
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