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Why do they send ruffians to do the job meant for a negotiator?
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Again with the retarded triggerhappy cops. Nuke the damned country and get rid of all stupid cops at once!
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Fortunately the guy is suing and should win a nice sum. Legally he is in the right and the cops were wrong. A good lawyer will have a field day with this.

Hopefully the idiot cop who kept knowingly tazing a man with a heart problem IN THE HEART will be shown on the news media. He shouldn't be a cop with judgement that poor. Idiot.
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if you get shot with a taser you've got about half a second to pull the barbs out before the shock comes

also if you do get tased it lasts about 15 seconds or so and then they have to pull the trigger again

so if you can maintain presence of mind and constantly be trying to move your hand to the barbs or wires and pull them out you might get a chance to yank them before they can hit you with another blast
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Well, with the way these WHIMPY cops operate nowadays, the next blast would come from one of their sidearms.

What ever happened to simply grabbing a 67 year unarmed man, flipping him over and cuffing him??

What the hell is going on with cops tasering people, when it clearly isn't NECESSARY. I can understand if a cops life is in danger, or a suspect is wildly flailing and trying to injure people... But THIS???
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probably took 10 years right of his life span, those tasers damages your heart.
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Thanks for the pin. I really don't think the guy was 'resisting'. I think his body was reacting to pain.
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And what was amazing, is that when the guy would get belligerent and call the cop a SOB, the cop blasted him again, and kept saying "Quit resisting... Quit resisting", even though the guy was only reacting to the pain of the taser!

These cops are almost like mindless robots.
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Fortunately the guy is suing and should win a nice sum. Legally he is in the right and the cops were wrong. A good lawyer will have a field day with this.

Hopefully the idiot cop who kept knowingly tazing a man with a heart problem IN THE HEART will be shown on the news media. He shouldn't be a cop with judgement that poor. Idiot.
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Absolutely... He could have VERY easily killed that guy.
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These cops are almost like mindless robots.
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Almost ? Actually I think my fridge is more human than any cop.
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I doubt I would be quick enough to pull them out before the shock came, and after that probably not able. But good advice, and worth a try. Of course then they would probably shoot the person.
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It would be hard to get the barbs out quick enough, but if you can even just get one, you would keep from being shocked.

Of course, if there's another goose-stepper there, they just nail you with another.
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Next the heat ray gun..

Many of you will face it too!

This video is outrageous and the police should all be behind bars.

No civil liberties at all , not even in your own home.
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The REAL problem in this country (with the cops becoming more and more abusive) is, whenever someone successfully SUES the police, the legislators go right to work, to change the laws, enabling the police to get away with more and more abuses, and making it more and more difficult to sue them and win.

Notice that it is now illegal in many places to even video the police when they are "working". That is because of the exact reason that I outlined above. The excuse the police used (to get the legislature to pass the laws) was that they "couldn't effectively do their job, knowing that they are on video". Which REALLY translates into, they cannot effectively VIOLATE your rights, knowing that they are on video. And what about when the police are UNAWARE that they are on video? How could POSSIBLY "hinder" their ability to "do their job"?? And yet THAT is ALSO illegal.
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He was in his own home. he had said he wanted to kill himself but he did not, so possibly could have been a danger to himself, more than likely no one else, he did not have a weapon, I think he was drunk, big deal, in his own home, so what? No weapon, no threat to anyone, how does this constitue being tasered IN YOUR OWN HOME wtf?
I dont get it! I smell law suit!
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Thanks for the pin. I really don't think the guy was 'resisting'. I think his body was reacting to pain.




And what was amazing, is that when the guy would get belligerent and call the cop a SOB, the cop blasted him again, and kept saying "Quit resisting... Quit resisting", even though the guy was only reacting to the pain of the taser!

These cops are almost like mindless robots.
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They are trying to weaken your will, so you'll be passive and not resist tyranny. They are trying to kill peoples spirits, to extinguish the flame of resistance!
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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That's all you got? A BS flag?
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It lasts for 5 seconds, not 15.

Most cops who carry Tasers have in fact been Tased during training. It hurts like a sumbitch but I would rather have 5 second of incapacitation than weeks of healing or broken bones from a Hickory Stick Shampoo or a collapsible baton.

I haven't watched this video but the Taser is a good tool. Yes occasionally people die from it but they also die from being taken into custody the old fashioned way as well. If people complied with an officers lawful orders and then sort the problem out afterwards, there wouldn't be these problems.
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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Oh bullshit, your a freaking cop! So yeah, of course you would justify this bs!

Sorry, but it's because of the mentality of YOUR kind that this shit happens!

Officers Mack and Cooke NEVER would have done this! Instead, they would have talked to the man, getting hold of the situation, and NOT gotten the man so angry.

It use to be that cops had to have at minimum an Associates Degree to even take the exam. Why was that? Because in getting that associates degree, in ensure that cops were knowledgeable in sociology, psychology, and even physiology! Cops were required to take certain courses, so they were knowledgeable in how to deal with PEOPLE, of ALL stripes and backgrounds! They knew how to use psychological techniques to calm a situation, or even how to talk to hostage takers or armed gunmen in general. Today, rather than using psychological techniques, they just use FEAR TACTICS and BRUTALITY!!

You do a major disservice to veteran cops! But that's the mentality we have running the "order in our streets" today. Rather than seeing civilians as their equals, or even as their employers, the cops see civilians as nothing but chattle to be ran down, bullied, and put into submission at ANY cost! Much like modern day cattle ranchers who, rather than using horses (the natural way) for rounding up cattle, they run them down with loud, threatening ATVs and trucks. Then they wonder why even cattle have become so dangerous as to charge them when they are trying to inoculate the calves!

There will come a day, in the not too distant future, where YOU will have to choose the side you're on. By the looks of it, you've chosen the wrong side...that of tyranny and oppression...what a good SS brownshirt you've become.
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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I have a good sense that you did NOT watch the entire video. The man was tasered MULTIPLE times on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS! Passive resistance or not the officers were cowards. Even if the man's comments gave them a 'right' or 'obligation' does not excuse their clear abuse and torture.

If you psychoanalyze the officer's speech and tone, it is reflective of a person ailing from 'Sadistic personality disorder'. People with such mental disorders should not be officers of the law. Rather it should have been him escorted to the mental institution.
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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Your comments above personify you as a psychopath. Hitler used your type in his rise to power. Unfortunately, slime like you come out of the woodwork to fill positions where they can self righteously indulge in brutal authority, with little if any compassion for another human being. You can actually persecute and torture another human being and BLAME THE VICTIM FOR IT, and then superciliously camouflage your warped morals with indignation.

I hope you end up under somebody's thumb someday, a day when your depressed and in pain, and I hope that somebody is JUST LIKE YOU. Then maybe, as you writhe, something will click in your heartless soul.
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You cannot commit a crime in your house.
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That's some good news...So, I can invite someone in, kill them and it's not a crime?
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

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Ok, I'm not going to watch the whole thing, I stopped at about the fifth time the cop told him to put his hands behind his head and the guy refused...hell, the cop even told the dude he was going to tase him...


He was not legally obliged to follow their orders. Jack ass.


Really, so your house is like a law free zone? You can grow crack and snort Marijuana all you want in your house and not be subject to the law?


You cannot commit a crime in your house. The charge was resisting arrest, which was later dismissed. The only charge brought against him was dismissed. That means he didn't commit a crime. That means the cops didn't have a leg to stand on. That means you're retarded. It also means that your reading comprehension is horrid.

If you haven't committed a crime, then you have the right to tell the police to leave.
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If your reading comprehension is so astute then you would recall me saying that I only watched the first few minutes of the guy refusing to put his hands behind his head...I realize that is confusing to you so next time try to pay attention...

My point isn't that he committed a crime...my point is to intelligently avoid an ass kicking...

Last Edited by BRIEF AND TO THE POINT on 09/02/2010 09:22 PM
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

:Brieffromnativea:
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Your comments above personify you as a psychopath. Hitler used your type in his rise to power. Unfortunately, slime like you come out of the woodwork to fill positions where they can self righteously indulge in brutal authority, with little if any compassion for another human being. You can actually persecute and torture another human being and BLAME THE VICTIM FOR IT, and then superciliously camouflage your warped morals with indignation.

I hope you end up under somebody's thumb someday, a day when your depressed and in pain, and I hope that somebody is JUST LIKE YOU. Then maybe, as you writhe, something will click in your heartless soul.
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You may hate people like me, but you need us. I don't expect you to admit it, but we both know the truth.
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Your comments above personify you as a psychopath. Hitler used your type in his rise to power. Unfortunately, slime like you come out of the woodwork to fill positions where they can self righteously indulge in brutal authority, with little if any compassion for another human being. You can actually persecute and torture another human being and BLAME THE VICTIM FOR IT, and then superciliously camouflage your warped morals with indignation.

I hope you end up under somebody's thumb someday, a day when your depressed and in pain, and I hope that somebody is JUST LIKE YOU. Then maybe, as you writhe, something will click in your heartless soul.


You may hate people like me, but you need us. I don't expect you to admit it, but we both know the truth.
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The only society that needs people like you are oppressive dictatorships. Your comment that you believe you're "needed" validates my claim that you're a psychopath. No decent functional society has a "need" for someone who thinks like you.
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It's called an Involuntary Commitment and it exists for the exact reasons listed above by many posters. If the cops shrugged his threat of suicide attempt off and he did it after they left, every govt. agency involved would be on the hook for liability.

Police, Fire, EMT's, everyone that is involved from the point the 911 call was made. If the man made the comment that he was suicidal, they are legally obligated to commit this man.

The guy chose to be a dipshit resisting after he made this comment so yeah, the police had to do something to get him in cuffs. Him sitting on the chair and refusing to get up is in fact passive resistance, and the officers are within their boundaries to use force to get him to comply. Would I have Tased him? Probably not, but I wasn't there. Would I have got this guy in cuffs one way or another? Yes. Unfortunately at that point, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they beat his ass to get him in cuffs, he might have a heart attack, stroke out, or end up with serious traumatic injuries like broken bones, heavy contusions, etc.

They really can't win. People keep harping on these cops about how they aren't like the cops of old days, well times have changed and they have to change with them in order to be effective at their job. If people don't like being handled by police, then don't do shit to get them involved in your life. If you get caught, then step up and own your fuckup. Instead nowadays you got idiots who get off scott free on murders where they are found over the top of a body with a machete in their hands due to shitbag defense attorneys who attack the Officers credibility and free these guys on technicalities.

The system is twisted up and until it changes, it will be business as usual for these cops. Don't like it? Live right then.
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The only society that needs people like you are oppressive dictatorships. Your comment that you believe you're "needed" validates my claim that you're a psychopath. No decent functional society has a "need" for someone who thinks like you.
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Is that what you think we live in? A decent functional society? Hah! That's a laugh. Thank you for proving my point. You are truly delusional and have no idea of the filth that is out there that the cops protect you from daily. Please continue enjoying living in your fantasy world while those of us who live in reality will keep protecting you from the filth you so vehemently defend.
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His wife is really sorry she called the police now....problem is these older folks still think that these LEO's are there to help them and they can look to them for help.....HAHAHAHAHa.
Maybe she knows better now the stupid bitch.
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Not laughing at the situation, which is deplorable.
Just the stupid wife.
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09/02/2010 10:08 PM
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Re: Police taser 64 year old man in his own home.
His wife is really sorry she called the police now....problem is these older folks still think that these LEO's are there to help them and they can look to them for help.....HAHAHAHAHa.
Maybe she knows better now the stupid bitch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087738

Like the woman that called because her mental son wouldn't take his crazy pills. Cops came, in under a minute he was dead. Pulled a knife, they say. She learned a hard lesson that day.
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09/02/2010 10:09 PM
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Re: Police taser 64 year old man in his own home.
His wife is really sorry she called the police now....problem is these older folks still think that these LEO's are there to help them and they can look to them for help.....HAHAHAHAHa.
Maybe she knows better now the stupid bitch.

Like the woman that called because her mental son wouldn't take his crazy pills. Cops came, in under a minute he was dead. Pulled a knife, they say. She learned a hard lesson that day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087752

Maybe this is what it takes to wake people up to their plight.
Sad, isn't it.

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