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The Prophecy ... Ezekiel 4:4-6


"Then God said to Ezekiel,
'Now lie on your left side for 390 days
to show Israel will be punished for 390 years
by captivity and doom.
Each day you lie there represents
a year of punishment ahead for Israel.
Afterwards, turn over and lay on your right side
for 40 days, to signify the years of Judah's punishment.
Each day will represent one year . . .'"
(Ezekiel 4:4-6)
 Quoting: The Bible


Although a little obscure (and sophisticated) this is one of the most fascinating prophecies found in the Bible.

Here, we find God telling Ezekiel that each day he (Ezekiel) lies on his side will represent one year of punishment for the nation Israel (Israel + Judah) because of their iniquities (sins) against God . . .



So, we have:

390 days - Judgment against the 10 northern tribes 'Israel'
+40 days - Judgment against the 2 southern tribes 'Judah'
--------
=430 years Judgment against the nation of Israel


In 606 B.C. Israel (Judah) was taken into captivity by Babylon for exactly 70 years ...

430 years of judgment determined against nation Israel
- 70 years fulfilled during the Babylonian captivity
----------
= 360 years remaining in judgment against the nation of Israel




The Mystery of 360 Years . . .


There should have been a total of 360 years left in judgment against Israel after their release from Babylonian captivity by the Persian general Cyrus, exactly 70 years after the Babylonian captivity began (just as the prophet Jeremiah had prophesied before the captivity) ... but where was the remaining 360 year judgment in Israel's history??!!

The 7X Factor of God's Judgment . . .



Bible scholars could not find any specific captivity or dispersion that fulfilled these 360 years left in the judgment until a close look in the book of Leviticus revealed a startling prophetic warning ...



"And after all this, if you do not obey Me,

then I (God) will punish you seven times more for your sins."

(Leviticus 26:18)



"Then, if you walk contrary to Me,

and are not willing to obey Me,

I (God) will bring on you seven times more plagues,

according to your sins."

(Leviticus 26:21)



"And after all this,

if you do not obey Me,

but walk contrary to Me,

then I (God) also will walk contrary to you in fury;

and I, even I will chastise you seven times for your sins.:

(Leviticus 26:27-28)



"I (God) will scatter you among the nations

and draw a sword after you;

your Land shall be desolate

and your cities waste."

(Leviticus 26:33)





The 7X factor of God's judgment against nation Israel. God warned Israel if they continued in their disobedience He would multiply their judgment by seven times! Remember, as noted throughout these prophetic studies, God says what He means and He means what He says!

Prophecy Fulfilled . . .




Now, let's apply the 7X factor to the remaining 360 years of judgment against nation Israel in this remarkable mathematical prophecy . . .



360 Remaining years of judgment
x 7 The prophetic '7X' factor
---------
=2,520 Years of judgment remained against nation Israel



God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ...

The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days ...



2,520 years
x 360 days
------------
=907,200 days of judgment remained against nation Israel after the Babylonian captivity


Now, to convert the 907,200 days found in this prophecy into our 365.25 day solar (Julian) years (the .25 adjusts for leap years) . . .

907,200 days ÷ 365.25 days = 2,483.78 years of God's judgment remained.

With this information, let's look at this remarkable prophecy again . . .


606 B.C Israel taken into Babylonian captivity - 70 Years for 70 years
------------
=536 B.C. End of first 70 years of judgment
+ 2483 Years Now add the 2,483 years remaining in this judgment
+1 Year Add 1 year because there is no "0" B.C. or A.D.


= 1948 AD! End of judgment against nation Israel

Israel Back in Her Land as a Nation . . . in 1948!
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He makes some pretty straightforward statements about this as well:

16Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.

17Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.

18And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.

19And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

20That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

21But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.

My comment is that the Jews didn't repent when the Babylonians released them and it still doesn't appear that they, as a nation, are following the statutes of God. So we'll see what happens.
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very interesting. thanks for posting.
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VERY WELL DONE!!!

EXCELLENT THREAD.
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Thanks for the kudos. Ezekiel was hard core.
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Re-establishment of Israel as a Nation-state by "group of nations" in 1948.....
Israel's true re-establishment will occur, not by a treaty signed by with the United Nations, but by the very hand of the creator.....and He will lead those whom He chooses back home, (and these are not the fake Jews who descend from Khazars)
The descendants of the Kingship of Israel are currently scattered throughout the 4 corners of the world, some with no idea of their lineage. Those of us who are aware of our lineage wait for the treaty and agreement to Disolve, and for the hand of God to move against them.
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whats next? 70 years for each degree in a generation =2018 .This generation will not pass till all is finished? Part of this 70 is the 7 year tribulation= 2010 This fall a war and peace treaty to begin this 7 yr timeline?
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A generation can be longer than 70 years, basically what it says is there will be someone alive, so with the advancement of medical science we may see people live to be 150. so its coming i hope sooner than later.
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The Prophecy ... Ezekiel 4:4-6



"Then God said to Ezekiel,
'Now lie on your left side for 390 days
to show Israel will be punished for 390 years
by captivity and doom.
Each day you lie there represents
a year of punishment ahead for Israel.
Afterwards, turn over and lay on your right side
for 40 days, to signify the years of Judah's punishment.
Each day will represent one year . . .'"
(Ezekiel 4:4-6)


Although a little obscure (and sophisticated) this is one of the most fascinating prophecies found in the Bible.

Here, we find God telling Ezekiel that each day he (Ezekiel) lies on his side will represent one year of punishment for the nation Israel (Israel + Judah) because of their iniquities (sins) against God . . .



So, we have:

390 days - Judgment against the 10 northern tribes 'Israel'
+40 days - Judgment against the 2 southern tribes 'Judah'
--------
=430 years Judgment against the nation of Israel


In 606 B.C. Israel (Judah) was taken into captivity by Babylon for exactly 70 years ...

430 years of judgment determined against nation Israel
- 70 years fulfilled during the Babylonian captivity
----------
= 360 years remaining in judgment against the nation of Israel




The Mystery of 360 Years . . .


There should have been a total of 360 years left in judgment against Israel after their release from Babylonian captivity by the Persian general Cyrus, exactly 70 years after the Babylonian captivity began (just as the prophet Jeremiah had prophesied before the captivity) ... but where was the remaining 360 year judgment in Israel's history??!!

The 7X Factor of God's Judgment . . .



Bible scholars could not find any specific captivity or dispersion that fulfilled these 360 years left in the judgment until a close look in the book of Leviticus revealed a startling prophetic warning ...



"And after all this, if you do not obey Me,

then I (God) will punish you seven times more for your sins."

(Leviticus 26:18)



"Then, if you walk contrary to Me,

and are not willing to obey Me,

I (God) will bring on you seven times more plagues,

according to your sins."

(Leviticus 26:21)



"And after all this,

if you do not obey Me,

but walk contrary to Me,

then I (God) also will walk contrary to you in fury;

and I, even I will chastise you seven times for your sins.:

(Leviticus 26:27-28)



"I (God) will scatter you among the nations

and draw a sword after you;

your Land shall be desolate

and your cities waste."

(Leviticus 26:33)





The 7X factor of God's judgment against nation Israel. God warned Israel if they continued in their disobedience He would multiply their judgment by seven times! Remember, as noted throughout these prophetic studies, God says what He means and He means what He says!

Prophecy Fulfilled . . .




Now, let's apply the 7X factor to the remaining 360 years of judgment against nation Israel in this remarkable mathematical prophecy . . .



360 Remaining years of judgment
x 7 The prophetic '7X' factor
---------
=2,520 Years of judgment remained against nation Israel



God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ...

The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days ...



2,520 years
x 360 days
------------
=907,200 days of judgment remained against nation Israel after the Babylonian captivity


Now, to convert the 907,200 days found in this prophecy into our 365.25 day solar (Julian) years (the .25 adjusts for leap years) . . .

907,200 days ÷ 365.25 days = 2,483.78 years of God's judgment remained.

With this information, let's look at this remarkable prophecy again . . .


606 B.C Israel taken into Babylonian captivity - 70 Years for 70 years
------------
=536 B.C. End of first 70 years of judgment
+ 2483 Years Now add the 2,483 years remaining in this judgment
+1 Year Add 1 year because there is no "0" B.C. or A.D.


= 1948 AD! End of judgment against nation Israel

Israel Back in Her Land as a Nation . . . in 1948!
 Quoting: GUANO



Very exciting!

Here is another one for you.

The Jewish observance of Purim celebrates Queen Esther's courageous act to spare the Jewish people from genocide perpetrated by the evil Haman. Words cannot describe how profound was her deed and its effect on world history, and eternity. It is about how Esther's prophecy about the ten sons of Haman pointed to 1946, when ten Nazi war criminals were hanged! [link to users.aristotle.net]

Book of ESTHER, Chapter 9

11/ On that day the number of those who were killed in Shushan the citadel was brought to the king.
12/ And the king said to Queen Esther, "The Jews have killed and destroyed five hundred men in Shushan the citadel, and the ten sons of Haman. What have they done in the rest of the king's provinces? Now what is your petition? It shall be granted to you. Or what is your further request? It shall be done."
13/ Then Esther said, "If it pleases the king, let it be granted to the Jews who are in Shushan to do again tomorrow according to today's decree, and let Haman's ten sons be hanged on the gallows."
14/ So the king commanded this to be done; the decree was issued in Shushan, and they hanged Haman's ten sons.

In memory of this great Jewish victory over their enemies, the Jews have celebrated the feast of Purim annually for over 2,000 years.

Esther's request to have the ten sons of Haman hanged seems rather unusual, seeing that Haman's sons had already been killed. Dr. Moshe Katz addresses this request in his book, Computorah: . . . The ten sons of Haman had already been killed, why bother to hang them?

In the writings of the Sages and the commentators, we find several ideas that could clarify this: On the word "tomorrow," in Esther's request, the Sages comment: "There is a tomorrow that is now, and a tomorrow which is later."

In other words, Esther was asking that the hanging of Haman's ten sons not remain an isolated episode in history, but should recur in the future, as well. Yet, if this is the case, surely King Ahasverus was in no position to acceed to such a request. Only G-d could make and keep such a promise.

An examination of the sources solves this problem, too. According to the Sages, every time King Ahasverus is mentioned by name in the Book of Esther, the reference is to him; when the word [hey-mem-lamed-kaph] - the King, appears on its own, it refers to G-d.

Esther was therefore not addressing her request to Ahasverus, but to G-d - who granted her request: "And the King commanded it be done." (Esther 9:14) (Computorah, pp. 99-100)

If this request was for the future as well as for that time, has this prophecy of Esther been fulfilled? Does history record 10 additional "sons of Haman" who were hanged after trying to exterminate the Jewish people?
Yes, both history and the Bible codes verify the fufillment of this incredible prophecy!

In Esther 3:1, we are told that Haman is an Agagite. Agag was the king of Amalek (1 Sam. 15:8). Therefore, Haman and his sons were Amalekites. Rabbi Elijah Solomon, a prominent Lithuanian rabbi [Vilna Gaon] of the 18th century known as "the great one of Vilna," held the tradition that the German nation was descended from Amalek.

During World War II, the Nazis in Germany tried to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth. Six million Jews were killed by the Germans. After the end of the war, the surviving Nazi leaders were tried at Nuremburg for this and other war crimes. These trials began on November 20, 1945, for 22 German Nazi leaders.

On October 1, 1946, 12 of the German defendants were sentenced to death by hanging for their part in the atrocities committed against the Jews and others. One of those convicted was Martin Bormann, who was sentenced in absentia. A second was Hermann Goering, who committed suicide in his cell just hours before the executions by taking cyanide poison. The remaining 10 Germans were hanged to death on October 16, 1946.

Dr. Moshe Katz reveals some incredible information about this event: . . . Since the trial was conducted by a military tribunal, the sentence handed down should have been death by firing squad, or by electric chair as practiced in the USA. However, the court specifically prescribed hanging, exactly as in Esther's original request: ". . . let Haman's ten sons be hanged."

Though doubts may linger about the connection between the Book of Esther and the Nazi war criminals, the condemned Julius Streicher, known as the "Beast of Franco", certainly had none.

Through some insight, Streicher appears to have grasped this link to Purim, as revealed by his final shout, with the noose about his neck, mere seconds before he was hanged. . . . With burning hatred in his eyes, Streicher looked down at the witnesses and shouted: "Purim Fest 1946!" (Computorah, pp. 104-106)

These hangings took place on October 16, 1946. On the Jewish calendar, October 16, 1946, corresponded to 21 Tishri, 5707. This date was the seventh day of the Jewish feast of Sukkot, the day called Hoshana Rabba. The Jews believe that this day represents the coming time when God's verdicts of judgment will be sealed.

In the very passage of Scripture where Esther's prophetic request is recorded, we can find the future execution date of these descendants of Haman, both in the surface text and encoded within it. First, let's look at how the date can be found in the surface text.

Jewish sages have long believed and taught that every variation of the surface text, whether it be the size of the letters themselves or a variant spelling of a word, has specific meaning. In some cases, that meaning remains a mystery. But in the case of Esther's prophecy regarding the hanging of Haman's ten sons, history has finally unveiled what was plainly there to see for 2,300 years.

In Esther 9:7-9, we find a list of the ten sons of Haman who were killed by the Jews. Below is the Hebrew text of these verses as it appears in the Tanakh. Remember, Hebrew reads from right to left.
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bible mentions 70 yrs! 72 yrs in a degree movement in the constellations. All I know is the psalms 110-118 are the hallel psalms.Chapter 111 112 113 begin with the same words Praise the Lord and then the last end with Praise the Lord. The middle chapter114 sound like a pole shift to me! Water moving away ect. Who knows! All I know is the end of the nephillim blood line is at hand!
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bible mentions 70 yrs! 72 yrs in a degree movement in the constellations. All I know is the psalms 110-118 are the hallel psalms.Chapter 111 112 113 begin with the same words Praise the Lord and then the last end with Praise the Lord. The middle chapter114 sound like a pole shift to me! Water moving away ect. Who knows! All I know is the end of the nephillim blood line is at hand!
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I forgot to line up 2011 to psalms 111 2012 112 ect to year 2018.
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You have many interesting dates and factors.

But, Judgment against Israel didn't end in 1948 and it wont end until the accept their Messiah Jesus Christ

There's no other way
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Hey, but people here argue, the book is just a man made up story and its all bullshit.

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Matthew12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

13For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.



Already fulfilled.
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As long as you are talking '2520' in relation to Israel timelines, see [link to www.2010rapture.org]
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whats next? 70 years for each degree in a generation =2018 .This generation will not pass till all is finished? Part of this 70 is the 7 year tribulation= 2010 This fall a war and peace treaty to begin this 7 yr timeline?
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I've heard many, many details of this and perhaps 2018 may indeed be the year, even on the day of the Feast of Trumpets as a few theologians have added. Personally I will not choose a day because many people get into trouble over picking dates; also I find 2 or 3 different theories to have some Biblical relevance.

What I know for sure is that the Mysteries are being revealed right now as we speak and it has been revealed to me that He will not come until the prophecies are revealed to the elect, and even at that very moment, the moment that it is revealed unto the elect will be the moment of His great and terrible coming... I have a feeling these next few years will drag on and on; and once things start kicking off life is going to get really tough.

The pieces are indeed falling into place; the next 2 signs that I'm awaiting are the destruction of Damascus and the rebuilding of the Temple.
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Very exciting!

Here is another one for you.

The Jewish observance of Purim celebrates Queen Esther's courageous act to spare the Jewish people from genocide perpetrated by the evil Haman. Words cannot describe how profound was her deed and its effect on world history, and eternity. It is about how Esther's prophecy about the ten sons of Haman pointed to 1946, when ten Nazi war criminals were hanged! [link to users.aristotle.net]

Book of ESTHER, Chapter 9

11/ On that day the number of those who were killed in Shushan the citadel was brought to the king.
12/ And the king said to Queen Esther, "The Jews have killed and destroyed five hundred men in Shushan the citadel, and the ten sons of Haman. What have they done in the rest of the king's provinces? Now what is your petition? It shall be granted to you. Or what is your further request? It shall be done."
13/ Then Esther said, "If it pleases the king, let it be granted to the Jews who are in Shushan to do again tomorrow according to today's decree, and let Haman's ten sons be hanged on the gallows."
14/ So the king commanded this to be done; the decree was issued in Shushan, and they hanged Haman's ten sons.

In memory of this great Jewish victory over their enemies, the Jews have celebrated the feast of Purim annually for over 2,000 years.

Esther's request to have the ten sons of Haman hanged seems rather unusual, seeing that Haman's sons had already been killed. Dr. Moshe Katz addresses this request in his book, Computorah: . . . The ten sons of Haman had already been killed, why bother to hang them?

In the writings of the Sages and the commentators, we find several ideas that could clarify this: On the word "tomorrow," in Esther's request, the Sages comment: "There is a tomorrow that is now, and a tomorrow which is later."

In other words, Esther was asking that the hanging of Haman's ten sons not remain an isolated episode in history, but should recur in the future, as well. Yet, if this is the case, surely King Ahasverus was in no position to acceed to such a request. Only G-d could make and keep such a promise.

An examination of the sources solves this problem, too. According to the Sages, every time King Ahasverus is mentioned by name in the Book of Esther, the reference is to him; when the word [hey-mem-lamed-kaph] - the King, appears on its own, it refers to G-d.

Esther was therefore not addressing her request to Ahasverus, but to G-d - who granted her request: "And the King commanded it be done." (Esther 9:14) (Computorah, pp. 99-100)

If this request was for the future as well as for that time, has this prophecy of Esther been fulfilled? Does history record 10 additional "sons of Haman" who were hanged after trying to exterminate the Jewish people?
Yes, both history and the Bible codes verify the fufillment of this incredible prophecy!

In Esther 3:1, we are told that Haman is an Agagite. Agag was the king of Amalek (1 Sam. 15:8). Therefore, Haman and his sons were Amalekites. Rabbi Elijah Solomon, a prominent Lithuanian rabbi [Vilna Gaon] of the 18th century known as "the great one of Vilna," held the tradition that the German nation was descended from Amalek.

During World War II, the Nazis in Germany tried to wipe the Jewish race from the face of the earth. Six million Jews were killed by the Germans. After the end of the war, the surviving Nazi leaders were tried at Nuremburg for this and other war crimes. These trials began on November 20, 1945, for 22 German Nazi leaders.

On October 1, 1946, 12 of the German defendants were sentenced to death by hanging for their part in the atrocities committed against the Jews and others. One of those convicted was Martin Bormann, who was sentenced in absentia. A second was Hermann Goering, who committed suicide in his cell just hours before the executions by taking cyanide poison. The remaining 10 Germans were hanged to death on October 16, 1946.

Dr. Moshe Katz reveals some incredible information about this event: . . . Since the trial was conducted by a military tribunal, the sentence handed down should have been death by firing squad, or by electric chair as practiced in the USA. However, the court specifically prescribed hanging, exactly as in Esther's original request: ". . . let Haman's ten sons be hanged."

Though doubts may linger about the connection between the Book of Esther and the Nazi war criminals, the condemned Julius Streicher, known as the "Beast of Franco", certainly had none.

Through some insight, Streicher appears to have grasped this link to Purim, as revealed by his final shout, with the noose about his neck, mere seconds before he was hanged. . . . With burning hatred in his eyes, Streicher looked down at the witnesses and shouted: "Purim Fest 1946!" (Computorah, pp. 104-106)

These hangings took place on October 16, 1946. On the Jewish calendar, October 16, 1946, corresponded to 21 Tishri, 5707. This date was the seventh day of the Jewish feast of Sukkot, the day called Hoshana Rabba. The Jews believe that this day represents the coming time when God's verdicts of judgment will be sealed.

In the very passage of Scripture where Esther's prophetic request is recorded, we can find the future execution date of these descendants of Haman, both in the surface text and encoded within it. First, let's look at how the date can be found in the surface text.

Jewish sages have long believed and taught that every variation of the surface text, whether it be the size of the letters themselves or a variant spelling of a word, has specific meaning. In some cases, that meaning remains a mystery. But in the case of Esther's prophecy regarding the hanging of Haman's ten sons, history has finally unveiled what was plainly there to see for 2,300 years.

In Esther 9:7-9, we find a list of the ten sons of Haman who were killed by the Jews. Below is the Hebrew text of these verses as it appears in the Tanakh. Remember, Hebrew reads from right to left.
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Very interesting; I have not heard this one--but it does fall in line with just about every other prophetic methodology God seems to use. The spirit of Prophecy is a very wondrous one indeed!

It's so crazy how the prophets themselves had NO IDEA what they were prophesying about unless an angel specifically told them. This just goes to prove the it has nothing to do with the prophet and EVERYTHING to do with GOD.

And it just goes to show who is control of the entire workings of the cosmos and how important what goes on inside vs. what goes on on the outside.
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You have many interesting dates and factors.

But, Judgment against Israel didn't end in 1948 and it wont end until the accept their Messiah Jesus Christ

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Judgment never will not "end" or "cease" until God changes the heavenly hierarchy. This topic is about the judgments in certain portions of the book of Ezekiel.
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Today's Israel are not the true collection and inheritors of the Holy Land, they are in the words of Jesus the synagogue of Satan.

Prophecy was fulfilled when the Jews were scattered around the Earth.


Leviticus
Chapter 26
31 -- I will lay waste your cities and devastate your sanctuaries, refusing to accept your sweet-smelling offerings.

32 -- So devastated will I leave the land that your very enemies who come to live there will stand aghast at the sight of it.

33 -- You yourselves I will scatter among the nations at the point of my drawn sword, leaving your countryside desolate and your cities deserted.
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The Bible goes on to say that although the Jews are scattered GOD will protect some. [45] "I will remember them because of the covenant I made with their forefathers, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt under the very eyes of the Gentiles, that I, the LORD, might be their GOD"

Prophecy for reunification was not fulfilled whereby the scattered Jews are collected and brought back to the Holy Land.


Ezekiel
Chapter 20

34 -- With a mighty hand and outstretched arm, with poured-out wrath, I will bring you out from the nations and gather you from the countries over which you are scattered;

35 -- then I will lead you to the desert of the peoples, where I will enter into judgment with you face to face.

36 -- Just as I entered into judgment with your fathers in the desert of the land of Egypt, so will I enter into judgment with you, says the Lord GOD.

37 -- I will count you with the staff and bring back but a small number.

38 -- I will separate from you those who have rebelled and transgressed against me; from the land where they sojourned as aliens I will bring them out, but they shall not return to the land of Israel. Thus you shall know that I am the LORD.
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34 -- GOD will bring them out.

35 -- Into a desert the Jews shall once again enter.

36 -- Just like with Moses.

37 -- Many will die in that desert.

38 -- THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN ISRAEL WAS CREATED IN 1946

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Hey, but people here argue, the book is just a man made up story and its all bullshit.

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Pray for them--and forgive them--and let them continue on their way. You have the power to forgive sins and that power is transubstantiatial. Forgive EVERYONE for everything.

People who sin directly against us will have to answer to the Great Judge, and just like here on earth, we have the power to "drop the charges" so to speak... Then that leaves it between them and God alone; I will condemn no one.
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Today's Israel are not the true collection and inheritors of the Holy Land, they are in the words of Jesus the synagogue of Satan.

Prophecy was fulfilled when the Jews were scattered around the Earth.


Leviticus
Chapter 26
31 -- I will lay waste your cities and devastate your sanctuaries, refusing to accept your sweet-smelling offerings.

32 -- So devastated will I leave the land that your very enemies who come to live there will stand aghast at the sight of it.

33 -- You yourselves I will scatter among the nations at the point of my drawn sword, leaving your countryside desolate and your cities deserted.
---------- [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The Bible goes on to say that although the Jews are scattered GOD will protect some. [45] "I will remember them because of the covenant I made with their forefathers, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt under the very eyes of the Gentiles, that I, the LORD, might be their GOD"

Prophecy for reunification was not fulfilled whereby the scattered Jews are collected and brought back to the Holy Land.


Ezekiel
Chapter 20

34 -- With a mighty hand and outstretched arm, with poured-out wrath, I will bring you out from the nations and gather you from the countries over which you are scattered;

35 -- then I will lead you to the desert of the peoples, where I will enter into judgment with you face to face.

36 -- Just as I entered into judgment with your fathers in the desert of the land of Egypt, so will I enter into judgment with you, says the Lord GOD.

37 -- I will count you with the staff and bring back but a small number.

38 -- I will separate from you those who have rebelled and transgressed against me; from the land where they sojourned as aliens I will bring them out, but they shall not return to the land of Israel. Thus you shall know that I am the LORD.
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34 -- GOD will bring them out.

35 -- Into a desert the Jews shall once again enter.

36 -- Just like with Moses.

37 -- Many will die in that desert.

38 -- THIS DID NOT HAPPEN WHEN ISRAEL WAS CREATED IN 1946

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I fully understand this concept although I believe that throughout the Bible it eludes to the idea that what we recognize here on earth God also recognizes in the heavens; I can back that up with scripture. If the world calls them Jews, God calls them Jews. God gave them back Israel, doesn't mean they deserved it in any way shape or form!!!
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The Prophecy ... Ezekiel 4:4-6



"Then God said to Ezekiel,
'Now lie on your left side for 390 days
to show Israel will be punished for 390 years
by captivity and doom.
Each day you lie there represents
a year of punishment ahead for Israel.
Afterwards, turn over and lay on your right side
for 40 days, to signify the years of Judah's punishment.
Each day will represent one year . . .'"
(Ezekiel 4:4-6)


Although a little obscure (and sophisticated) this is one of the most fascinating prophecies found in the Bible.

Here, we find God telling Ezekiel that each day he (Ezekiel) lies on his side will represent one year of punishment for the nation Israel (Israel + Judah) because of their iniquities (sins) against God . . .



So, we have:

390 days - Judgment against the 10 northern tribes 'Israel'
+40 days - Judgment against the 2 southern tribes 'Judah'
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=430 years Judgment against the nation of Israel


In 606 B.C. Israel (Judah) was taken into captivity by Babylon for exactly 70 years ...

430 years of judgment determined against nation Israel
- 70 years fulfilled during the Babylonian captivity
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= 360 years remaining in judgment against the nation of Israel




The Mystery of 360 Years . . .


There should have been a total of 360 years left in judgment against Israel after their release from Babylonian captivity by the Persian general Cyrus, exactly 70 years after the Babylonian captivity began (just as the prophet Jeremiah had prophesied before the captivity) ... but where was the remaining 360 year judgment in Israel's history??!!

The 7X Factor of God's Judgment . . .



Bible scholars could not find any specific captivity or dispersion that fulfilled these 360 years left in the judgment until a close look in the book of Leviticus revealed a startling prophetic warning ...



"And after all this, if you do not obey Me,

then I (God) will punish you seven times more for your sins."

(Leviticus 26:18)



"Then, if you walk contrary to Me,

and are not willing to obey Me,

I (God) will bring on you seven times more plagues,

according to your sins."

(Leviticus 26:21)



"And after all this,

if you do not obey Me,

but walk contrary to Me,

then I (God) also will walk contrary to you in fury;

and I, even I will chastise you seven times for your sins.:

(Leviticus 26:27-28)



"I (God) will scatter you among the nations

and draw a sword after you;

your Land shall be desolate

and your cities waste."

(Leviticus 26:33)





The 7X factor of God's judgment against nation Israel. God warned Israel if they continued in their disobedience He would multiply their judgment by seven times! Remember, as noted throughout these prophetic studies, God says what He means and He means what He says!

Prophecy Fulfilled . . .




Now, let's apply the 7X factor to the remaining 360 years of judgment against nation Israel in this remarkable mathematical prophecy . . .



360 Remaining years of judgment
x 7 The prophetic '7X' factor
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=2,520 Years of judgment remained against nation Israel



God gave the Jews the most sophisticated calendar on Earth. It is both a Lunar and a Solar calendar. The Jewish calendar uses a 360 day lunar (and prophetic) year and then adds a 'Leap Month' on specific years to accurately coincide with the Solar cycle we use on our 'Julian' calendar ...

The Bible uses 360 day years for prophecies and expects us to add the appropriate 'leap months' on schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days ...



2,520 years
x 360 days
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=907,200 days of judgment remained against nation Israel after the Babylonian captivity


Now, to convert the 907,200 days found in this prophecy into our 365.25 day solar (Julian) years (the .25 adjusts for leap years) . . .

907,200 days ÷ 365.25 days = 2,483.78 years of God's judgment remained.

With this information, let's look at this remarkable prophecy again . . .


606 B.C Israel taken into Babylonian captivity - 70 Years for 70 years
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=536 B.C. End of first 70 years of judgment
+ 2483 Years Now add the 2,483 years remaining in this judgment
+1 Year Add 1 year because there is no "0" B.C. or A.D.


= 1948 AD! End of judgment against nation Israel

Israel Back in Her Land as a Nation . . . in 1948!
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Amazing!!
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whats next? 70 years for each degree in a generation =2018 .This generation will not pass till all is finished? Part of this 70 is the 7 year tribulation= 2010 This fall a war and peace treaty to begin this 7 yr timeline?



I've heard many, many details of this and perhaps 2018 may indeed be the year, even on the day of the Feast of Trumpets as a few theologians have added. Personally I will not choose a day because many people get into trouble over picking dates; also I find 2 or 3 different theories to have some Biblical relevance.

What I know for sure is that the Mysteries are being revealed right now as we speak and it has been revealed to me that He will not come until the prophecies are revealed to the elect, and even at that very moment, the moment that it is revealed unto the elect will be the moment of His great and terrible coming... I have a feeling these next few years will drag on and on; and once things start kicking off life is going to get really tough.

The pieces are indeed falling into place; the next 2 signs that I'm awaiting are the destruction of Damascus and the rebuilding of the Temple.
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Great post OP!

By the way I agree with the above as well "rebuilding of the Temple" that's when I know it's time to get ready for Jesus' coming!
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Remember GOD says that HE will do this to show HE is in control. Do not ever doubt the word of GOD. GOD knows the beginning and the end. HE also knows where HIS 12 tribes are. As for the temple, many of the objects are all ready to put in HIS temple, I do not know if they have found a perfect red heifer as yet or the true color of blue to use in the temple worship, but they are working on it day and night. Exciting times!
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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how do I get uncircumsized?
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how do I get uncircumsized?
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... glue it back on
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interesting

and what they have really learnt from 430 years of punishment??

have they some kind of attention problem so they spent 430 years in god school without learning anything???





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