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I'm usually left of center, but I think abortion is murder. | |
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GibsonThrash  User ID: 993027  United States09/04/2010 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. This is the one split party issue that I'm totally baffled on. Based on conservative beliefs, I would assume they would have the opposite stance on abortion. However, the more babies born, the more money the elites make. So that makes sense to me. The whole issue, and society's view on it is one of those things that helps you take a deeper look at the hypocrisy of it all. |
| IscopeU User ID: 915154  China09/04/2010 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | War, death penalty, self-defense, accident, abortion. Ending a life is happening everyday everywhere. If that is your only argument, then you support a hypocrite society. [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] The weird video corner. “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.” (-Sumerian clay tablet, 2800 BCE) |
| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a stand. You are either pro-life, or pro-death, not really a grey/gray area. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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| GibsonThrash User ID: 993027 United States09/04/2010 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More sex-ed and abundant availability of prophylactics. I know it's the generic right wing argument, but if you can't prevent pregnancy in this day and age, you deserve to be forced to deal with an unwanted kid. That's what I say to people who can't understand that lovemaking and procreation are the most sacred abilities that we have in this existence. Last Edited by sko0macat on 09/04/2010 02:36 AM |
| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3D ultrasounds will have people looking at abortion in a whole new light. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 794076Doubt it. Currently, with the easily available birth control and relatively inexpensive "morning-after" pill, over 40% of abortions are NOT first timers. If it is your second abortions or 15th, you fall under the same stat. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| IscopeU User ID: 915154 China09/04/2010 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a stand. Quoting: NeoFistYou are either pro-life, or pro-death, not really a grey/gray area. Biggest bullshit ever. If a guy stands shooting at you and you shoot back killing him in self-defense. I am pro death there. And if a sick old man wants to end his life and a doctor is needed to pull the plug. Then i am pro death there. If a bomber plane bombs civilians, i am pro-life there. Life/death is gray. [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] The weird video corner. “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.” (-Sumerian clay tablet, 2800 BCE) |
| awthrawthr User ID: 1086185 United States09/04/2010 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't kill me, but I'm pretty liberal in my attitudes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694452But it's hard for me to see abortion as anything other than murder. The baby in the womb is killed. I don't think legalized abortion should not be available because back-room abortion leads women to dangerous situations. But abortions are murder for this left-wing dude. I too was a liberal who was and is prolife. It was Clinton's veto of the ban on partial birth abortion that gradually turned me into a conservative. How could I respect any set of beliefs that had abortion as one of its cornerstone beliefs? I could not. The procedures are far too vicious and callous to be tolerated by any compassionate person. You have some confusion of thought regarding allowing abortions because otherwise some people would commit a crime to get one anyway and someone might get badly hurt. Every abortion is a dangerous situation, especially for the preborn one. Improving the sanitation at the scene of a murder doesn't improve the murder one iota. Last Edited by AwthrAwthr on 09/04/2010 05:51 PM Got pain? Free relief. [link to lowerpain.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 992437 Canada09/04/2010 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abortion is murder. A human fertilized egg is where we get human beings from. Just because we can't identify what looks and acts human and what does not look or act human at any point in the stages of that egg's future development does not mean that life only begins when the womb opens at the moment of birth. Every judge and jury that sits in judgement for abortion started out as a human fertilized egg. |
| GibsonThrash User ID: 993027 United States09/04/2010 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More sex-ed and abundant availability of prophylactics. I know it's the generic right wing argument, but if you can't prevent pregnancy in this day and age, you deserve to be forced to deal with an unwanted kid. Quoting: GibsonThrashThat's what I say to people who can't understand that lovemaking and procreation are the most sacred abilities that we have in this existence. |
| awthrawthr User ID: 1086185 United States09/04/2010 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with it as I am not the one with the womb. Quoting: ShadowFoxYoung males are the biggest supporters of abortion, according to polls. Of course they would be. It allows them to put the blame on the woman for having the baby. Got pain? Free relief. [link to lowerpain.org] |
| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a stand. Quoting: IscopeUYou are either pro-life, or pro-death, not really a grey/gray area. Biggest bullshit ever. If a guy stands shooting at you and you shoot back killing him in self-defense. I am pro death there. And if a sick old man wants to end his life and a doctor is needed to pull the plug. Then i am pro death there. If a bomber plane bombs civilians, i am pro-life there. Life/death is gray. That is your position. I think I should pat myself on-the-back for being listed high on the ranks of something for "ever". How about you not celebrate the situation where a person is in the situation where they must defend themselves from a bullett onslaught. How about you understand that people, animals and all things on earth and beyond "rage, rage, rage against the dying of light." [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no problem with it as I am not the one with the womb. Quoting: awthrawthrYoung males are the biggest supporters of abortion, according to polls. Of course they would be. It allows them to put the blame on the woman for having the baby. Yet, somehow, I get the "biggest bullshit ever" award. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| wizard User ID: 1076380 United States09/04/2010 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i am on the fence here i have always rememerd being born dont know why but i seem to remember entering my body right before i was born and the few seconds before i enterded my body i remember walking with two outher people up to some kinda chamber and getting into it and then comeing into the bright lights also remember being in an incubator and loking out at the things going on around the nursey i have wrote about this experiance on glp before about this |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1070511  Australia09/04/2010 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't kill me, but I'm pretty liberal in my attitudes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 694452But it's hard for me to see abortion as anything other than murder. The baby in the womb is killed. I don't think legalized abortion should not be available because back-room abortion leads women to dangerous situations. But abortions are murder for this left-wing dude. So what about miscarriage then? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1052787 Canada09/04/2010 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman can pay someone to kill & remove a baby & its legal. A woman who accepts money in exchange for sex is a criminal. Its one big fucked up system that isn't based on morals, its based on profit and getting votes. |
| GibsonThrash User ID: 993027 United States09/04/2010 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A woman can act in a porno movie for money & its legal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052787A woman can pay someone to kill & remove a baby & its legal. A woman who accepts money in exchange for sex is a criminal. Its one big fucked up system that isn't based on morals, its based on profit and getting votes. Exactly. In the end it's all about whether the guys at the top are making $$$. There's nothing ethical or life/death about it. Last Edited by sko0macat on 09/04/2010 02:55 AM |
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| IscopeU User ID: 915154 China09/04/2010 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a stand. Quoting: NeoFistYou are either pro-life, or pro-death, not really a grey/gray area. Biggest bullshit ever. If a guy stands shooting at you and you shoot back killing him in self-defense. I am pro death there. And if a sick old man wants to end his life and a doctor is needed to pull the plug. Then i am pro death there. If a bomber plane bombs civilians, i am pro-life there. Life/death is gray. That is your position. I think I should pat myself on-the-back for being listed high on the ranks of something for "ever". How about you not celebrate the situation where a person is in the situation where they must defend themselves from a bullett onslaught. How about you understand that people, animals and all things on earth and beyond "rage, rage, rage against the dying of light." You make no sense. I was commenting on your black/white argument. And that doesn't make you high listed, you didn't even express your position. You just make a statement that this can only be viewed as evil and nothing else. I didn't celebrate anything, i gave an example of where killing is considered a good thing. There are plenty of situations where killing is not considered a bad thing. What do you mean by "light" and raging against it. It makes no sense to me. [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] The weird video corner. “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.” (-Sumerian clay tablet, 2800 BCE) |
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| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a stand. Quoting: IscopeUYou are either pro-life, or pro-death, not really a grey/gray area. Biggest bullshit ever. If a guy stands shooting at you and you shoot back killing him in self-defense. I am pro death there. And if a sick old man wants to end his life and a doctor is needed to pull the plug. Then i am pro death there. If a bomber plane bombs civilians, i am pro-life there. Life/death is gray. That is your position. I think I should pat myself on-the-back for being listed high on the ranks of something for "ever". How about you not celebrate the situation where a person is in the situation where they must defend themselves from a bullett onslaught. How about you understand that people, animals and all things on earth and beyond "rage, rage, rage against the dying of light." You make no sense. I was commenting on your black/white argument. And that doesn't make you high listed, you didn't even express your position. You just make a statement that this can only be viewed as evil and nothing else. I didn't celebrate anything, i gave an example of where killing is considered a good thing. There are plenty of situations where killing is not considered a bad thing. What do you mean by "light" and raging against it. It makes no sense to me. "Biggest bullshit ever" puts what I said high on the list of so-called "bullshit" does it not? By suggesting you are pro-death with regards to the self defense senario you celebrated death by focusing on death as the only response to that situation. How about not being in that situation to begin with? What about words? Non-lethal weapons or techniques? Running? Hiding? I was quoting Dylan Thomas at the end trying to illustrate that all living things want to do exactly that, keep on living. They will fight against death with all the power they have even when it seems futile. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| IscopeU User ID: 915154 China09/04/2010 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its just another issue to cause a rift between people Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1088911divide and conquer same old same old So will debating close the rift or make it worse? [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] The weird video corner. “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.” (-Sumerian clay tablet, 2800 BCE) |
| NeoFist User ID: 1088895 United States09/04/2010 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its just another issue to cause a rift between people Quoting: IscopeUdivide and conquer same old same old So will debating close the rift or make it worse? Well first you have to try to debate instead of just insult. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| IscopeU User ID: 915154 China09/04/2010 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Biggest bullshit ever" puts what I said high on the list of so-called "bullshit" does it not? Quoting: NeoFistYeah it does. But you took it personal. Please don't because you are not the only one with this black and white view. The view is the biggest bullshit ever in the history of the universe. Not you as a person, because i don't even know you. By suggesting you are pro-death with regards to the self defense senario you celebrated death by focusing on death as the only response to that situation. How about not being in that situation to begin with? What about words? Non-lethal weapons or techniques? Running? Hiding? Quoting: NeoFistIt is a hypothetical situation, where killing is considered a 'good' thing. In this case that you have no other option then to kill out of self-defense. Other options are not even available in this hypothetical situation, because that's what a hypothetical situation implies. So my question is not what would you do. But, would you consider that good or bad? I was quoting Dylan Thomas at the end trying to illustrate that all living things want to do exactly that, keep on living. They will fight against death with all the power they have even when it seems futile. Quoting: NeoFistI see, thanks for clarifying. I do understand that. [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] The weird video corner. “Our Earth is degenerate in these later days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching.” (-Sumerian clay tablet, 2800 BCE) |
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