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Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?

 
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Anyone notice OP left this thread as bait and left? Now that's cowardliness.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
There's pictures of those that jumped - or rather their splattered remains.
The one photo I saw was of a man who was apparently dead long before the fall--he had no blood!

Most other photos and videos could just as easily be of corpses (already dead), realistically constructed mannequins, etc.

It is up to you to prove that any living human being actually jumped out of a WTC window.
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What about the videos of people jumping out of WTC windows? Holograms?
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
From what those in the medical profession have told me, jumping in these situations is more of an autonomic response then it is the victim's decision of which would be the least painful way to die.



so how many burning buildings have they jumped from?


As many as the hot stoves you've clenched.
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bullshit.

there is no comparison to burning your hand on a stove and facing the very real prospect of burning to death.

medical professionals have lots of theories, but theories are just theories.. i would be more interested in the observations of fire fighters in this discussion, not prissy "medical professionals" who like to deny a medical condition even exists if it is not in their shitty medical books.. they have REALLY embarrassed themselves in this regard over the past decade in the areas of fibromyalgia and Morgellon's disease, to name just two.

but whatever, I don't want to argue... peace

peace
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
being burnt to death or take a farewell swan dive into the pavement below....

i choose the latter.
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.
... yep and DOUBLE yep on that! ...
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Choose:

a) Certain death
b) A very very very small chance of survival

Why don't you phone a friend?
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
It was destiny of the occult spiritual realm.

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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I just saw a documentary on TV and they showed the people falling down the buildings and splatting on the sidewalk (well they didn't that bit but it was implied).

Why would you even do that?? Cowards.

A lot of things went splat on the sidewalk that day. But, I don't recall hearing
news reports of people remains/splat marks on the sidewalks- who knows ?
probably more BS propaganda ?

just thinkin
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thats an interesting observation
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Don't know how many here have Bungee Jumped.

I did 200 FT and it was fucking scary.

Like killing yourself.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Choose:

a) Certain death
b) A very very very small chance of survival

Why don't you phone a friend?
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The firefighters were trying too .... :(
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I saw one image appeared to be a already dead body when I flipped the picture upside down he showed no sign of consciousness which was odd.
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Maybe the poor soul suffered a heart attak after he launched...I've heard of that happening to first time skydivers on occasion...heart couldn't take the rush?
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I just saw a documentary on TV and they showed the people falling down the buildings and splatting on the sidewalk (well they didn't that bit but it was implied).

Why would you even do that?? Cowards.
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I look at them as brave. How brave it was to take fate in your own hands by controlling how you are going to die--by someone else's hand or your own? They had certain death, but they chose the bravest step they ever took by stepping into their chosen destinies.

I don't know, though, how they opened the windows. I used to work there and I still, to this day, don't know how they opened them.

Some were seen walking to the edge of the cleanly punched hole, no fire without burning embers. How did they get to that hole, I thought fuel was all over? (The lady in the khaki pants, search for that video "lady in the khaki pants").

I also don't know why there is no footage of the buildings severely swaying when they were hit. The buildings swayed in the wind (you'd feel seasick, I hated the feeling, never got used to it).

They were all brave, all those who chose to fly to their certain deaths.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I would have jumped because I believe I can fly.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
many of the people trapped in the WTC
would have had cellphones on them..

any reports of calls or txts to family ..or friends ?
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I would have thought someone falling would at least flap their arms real fast.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Here's some stills... [link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Absolute certanty of your mortality, imminent death and sheer utter horror, coupled with, unimaginable panic will make you close your eyes and fall to escape.

That is what happened to those poor people
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Very sad. Don't matter what you think about 9/11 politically, this is real people in a desperate situation





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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
many of the people trapped in the WTC
would have had cellphones on them..

any reports of calls or txts to family ..or friends ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593080


There is footage of a young business man who had taken his shirt off for some reason, and was seen standing on the punched in hole (no fire or smoke or burning on the edges, isn't that strange?). Anyway, he is called the "man with the cellphone" because he had a cellphone in his hand the entire time and then he jumped, shirtless, still holding his cellphone.

He and the lady in the khaki pants (see my earlier post) both were not burned, dirty, or covered in soot. They walked to the edge of the punched out hole, and then chose to jump.

I can't understand why the hole punched in wasn't burning hot with fuel!

You can find both videos, I assume, on youtube. None show the landings that I have looked at.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I just saw a documentary on TV and they showed the people falling down the buildings and splatting on the sidewalk (well they didn't that bit but it was implied).

Why would you even do that?? Cowards.

...................

A lot of things went splat on the sidewalk that day. But, I don't recall hearing
news reports of people remains/splat marks on the sidewalks- who knows ?
probably more BS propaganda ?

just thinkin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1089389



Sorry bud - that is exactly what you are NOT DOING!
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Just be thankful you were not trapped up there having to face that horrific choice.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
here is your answer OP

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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
many of the people trapped in the WTC
would have had cellphones on them..

any reports of calls or txts to family ..or friends ?


There is footage of a young business man who had taken his shirt off for some reason, and was seen standing on the punched in hole (no fire or smoke or burning on the edges, isn't that strange?). Anyway, he is called the "man with the cellphone" because he had a cellphone in his hand the entire time and then he jumped, shirtless, still holding his cellphone.

He and the lady in the khaki pants (see my earlier post) both were not burned, dirty, or covered in soot. They walked to the edge of the punched out hole, and then chose to jump.

I can't understand why the hole punched in wasn't burning hot with fuel!

You can find both videos, I assume, on youtube. None show the landings that I have looked at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1039687



I always wondered why "Lady in the Gash" jumped, but she did. There was no smoke or fire, and she was extremely brave to stand there on the remains of a floor waving for help. I think they heard the explosions going on, and knew there was no help forthcoming.

Sad :(
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
I wonder what must have been going through their minds. I hope they were praying and I pray that when they hit bottom, GOD helped them up to heaven in a blink of an eye! Bless their souls and their loved ones. I do not think any of us could say with certainty what we would have done. May we never be faced with that decision. Man's inhumanity to man, Sometimes I just can't believe how cruel mankind can be.
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I just saw a documentary on TV and they showed the people falling down the buildings and splatting on the sidewalk (well they didn't that bit but it was implied).

Why would you even do that?? Cowards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1079381


Have you even been burnt or gotten too close to a fire if so then imagine that your entire body is facing that intensity of pain for an unknown period of time? Jumping out of the window as unappealing as it is becomes the last hope for the victim where either they will die immediately or circumstances or good fortune could intervene in their behalf.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Obviously, the OP was about 4 years old on September 11--
Cowards? Hardly.

As to the jumpers, it looks as though most of them were male--so I think that that may be a factor in who and why they jumped.

I asked my husband as to what he would have done if death from the smoke/fire was inevitable--he said he would have jumped.
I, on the other hand, would have rather died from the smoke inhalation than be spattered on the pavement.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
being burnt to death or take a farewell swan dive into the pavement below....

i choose the latter.
I doubt if anyone made any sort of rational choice. If they had, surely they would have done something differently.

They jumped because of panic. Panic can make people do some pretty irrational things.



I don't think I would ever be thinking clearer than if a wall of fire was ready to engulf me. Just say'n.
 Quoting: X 1087819


When you realize it is over, do you stay around and take the most painful way out -- or do you leap into the arms of God and hope maybe you'll hit a tree or a canopy on the way down that will break your fall? The more successful odds for survival would be with the leap.

Burning alive? Staying around for that would just be stupid.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
how can you be so callous and hard hearted. Those were real live human beings. someone's Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Child, friend.. etc..

Your smug little remarks break my heart for the loss of life and the loss of any humanity in you..

Humility and dignity are two things you are lacking. But as long as you draw a breath there is hope for you OP
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I just saw a documentary on TV and they showed the people falling down the buildings and splatting on the sidewalk (well they didn't that bit but it was implied).

Why would you even do that?? Cowards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1079381



It has nothing to do with being a coward....You don't even have time to think with that kind of heat hitting your skin. Stand next to a campfire...when it gets to hot you jump back, or you hand on a stove...you pull back without even thinking.

Since you were not there in that situation I would say calling these people cowards is not a nice thing to do.
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Does internet idiocy know no bounds? OP, you are a fucking stooge, go play in traffic you stupid fuck. Best part of you dripped out of your mothers ass.
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Re: Why did the jumpers who jumped from the WTC on 9/11 jump?
Iirc, the wind gust from being so high wooshed them out of the building...





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