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Greeting ST in BG,

My oldest son and I were star gazing in Tucson Arizona on Jun 30, 1992. We were in a park that was to the north of Tucson from around midnight to 3:30 in the morning. While we were there one of the mountains had what appeared to be a soft kind of fog on it. It appeared randomly and came across the mountain in various patterns. After observing this for a while and coming up with no explanation about the source we decided to leave and go home.

All of a sudden about 500ft in front of us at about an altitude of 250ft there was a ship. It appeared to be about seventy feet long with a dome area about 40ft high that tapered down to the edges. It also had the soft fog around it that looked the same as the mountain fog. After a couple of minutes it shot off into space out of sight in a second or less and never a noise.

The strange thing about the fog is that Arizona basically doesn´t get fog. Another strange thing was the next day I noticed a retangular mark on the inside of my left knee about three inches long by two inches wide. After pointing it out to my son he stated he had one also on the outside of his left knee. They both kind of looked like a rug burn, shiny looking but with no pain.


Any ideas as to who this craft may of been occupied by? I have heard that their is an underground base in that area. I have also seen pictures of the same type of craft taken in the same area two years earlier.

**Yes ... The First Thought Which Entered Our Minds Is That The Craft Was One Of Those Termed: "Reptilian" ... One Of A Kindlier Being !!


Mushroom pizza, slugs and lighting bugs,

Two Cents

** And To You As Well My Friend !!

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This prophet Yaweh character who can make UFO stuff appear... he said he got the information from an old part of the jewish Bible or something... I thought it was said all that is the Bible is BS???

**It Was Inferred By Another That This Was The Case !! ... In Our View This Of Many "Manmade Created Bibles" ... Of Those Witnesses ... They Did Not Understand What They Were Seeing ... Such Information That Put Down Later To Papyrus Was Distorted In View & Transmission ... The Ideas Were Altered To Particular Individual & Political Viewpoints ... Materials Were Expunged/Taken Out/Left Out ... And The Works Were Condensed Into A "Readers Digest Format" For Easier Reading !!

If your race is so advanced why are you wasting so much of our time??? You have infinite time to come up with infinite things... yet you choose not to act for ages and ages... HRMMM lets see here... are you afraid of something??? Why are you hiding in the shadows???

**One Cannot Waste ... Of Which One Does Not Understand !! ... Since You Do Not Understand "True Time" Then There Is No Waste !! ... It Is Only In The Illusion Of Those Who Are Programmed Into "Non-Linear Time" That Such Thoughts/Views Are Prevelent !!

**We Do Most All Of Our Work ... "Behind The Scenes" ... As We Understand That Such Draumatic Changes Can Be Inheritantly Dangerous To A Society/Civilization That Is In An Infantile State !! ... *So Much To Your Not Seeing Us Perform Our Duties ... We Are Constantly "On The Job" !!

If that manifest stuff is true about thinking and believing enough to make things come true... you better believe Jesus will be coming even if he didn´t exist before lol cause we got a large number of churches and mind sets of that here... so what are you gonna do about that??? And if that manifest stuff isn´t true why meditate? Seems a catch-22 that you are caught in...

**We Do Not "Believe" In Illusion !! ... As The Fabrication/Creation Of "Jesus" Is One Such Example !! ... *The Enevitable Will Eventually Happen Of Course ... The Beings Here Will Loose Their Dependance ... Their "Crutch" ... Their "Belief" In That Which Was & Is Not ... And Focus Their Attentions On Those Things That Truely Are & Will Be !!

**If You Are Referring To ... "Manifesting Oneīs Own Reality" ?? ... Only On A Limited & Non-Dangerous Level At This Moment/"Time" ... As Indeed The Beings Are Just Taking Their First "Baby Steps" & Learning How To Walk !! ... *So We May Say That All Things In Regard To If One Meditates Or Finds Another Method To Connect To All Things ... This Is Indeed A Learning Process !!

I would rather have a pure being that is the idea of Jesus save everything than conspiring practical jokers from other dimensions who mess around with insectoid bodies and affros than saving us...

**Even The Being Of Which The Basis Of Which "Jesus" Was Formulated ... Had His Difficulties ... Had His Challenges Of Which He Needed To Work On !! ... So If You Are Looking For Perfection ?? ... Know That Perfection Is Only That Which Is Seen From A Particular Point Of View ... It Is Perception In/Of Itself !!

**You Do Not Seem To Realize That The Gift Of Laughter ... The Gift Of Hilarity ... Is Intertwined With That Of Which You Call: Love & Compassion !! ... Which Is Very High Learning Indeed !! ... So Of Which You Believe To Be A Detriment To The Learning Processes ... Is Instead A Boon ... A Great Example/Lesson That The Beings Of Terra/Earth Need To Learn !!

**While We Are Helping You ... We Cannot Arbitrarily When One So Chooses ... Save One From Themselves !! ... Each Individual Must Decide This On Their Own !! ... We May Advise In Certain Situations ... But The Inner Changes To Ones Being ... Must Come From A Change In Oneīs Own Outlook ... How One Sees Life & The Life Forms Around Them !!

**For Obvious Reasons Of Safety & Security ... And So As Not To Instantly Disrupt Your Society & Civilization ... We Do Not Outwardly "Step In" & Take Charge Of Things !! ... While We Have The Ability ... We Are Not Allowed To Simply Take Over & Take Control ... As This Would Cause Massive Damage To Your World ... Through The Maddness That Would Result ... From Individuals & Others Lives ... Based On "Beliefs" Rather Then On Substance ... Having Their "Rugs" Being Pulled Out From Under Them !!

**As To Physically Saving Beings Once The Time Of Change Are Upon This World ... This Would Entirely Depend On Each Individualīs "Soul Arrangements/Agreements" !!

**There Are Those Who Will Be Removed ... To Live Their Lives Elsewhere For A "Time" & Then Will Return To Rebuild Your World !! ... Of Which We & Others Will Be Assisting !!

**There Are Those Who Had Decided Before They Were In Flesh Form ... That They Want To Experience The Changes ... And They Will Remain To Live Through This !! ... And Their "Energy Essenses" (Their True Selves) ... Will Be Departing To Go Elsewhere ... When Their Corporeal Shells/Bodies Are So Damaged As To Not Support Their Being !!

I think the need for fun is only around because life is hellish...

**The Need For Fun ... Is The Need For Play ... To Learn & To Experience !! ... To Take In Life & The Life Processes !! ... *It Was Said In A Science Fiction Program/Episode That Is Popular ... "The Greater The Mind ... The Greater The Need For The Simplicity Of Play" !! ... *There Is No & Never Was A "Hell" !! ... One Makes Of Life What They So Choose !! ... It Is Perception Is It Not ??

I think if life was right we could just exist and we would be content with that...

**Ahh... But You Would Not Learn ... You Would Not Grow !! ... And That Is The Point !! ... To Explore & To Learn ... And To Eventually Reunite With The Source Of All Things ... Of Which You Are Part !!

So I would assume existence where you are is hellish too... interesting...

**As Stated There Is No Such Thing !! ... It Is Illusion !! ... So Such Cannot Be "Hellish" !! ... Although We May State That There Is * Always Will Be Challenges !!

BTW... ST in BG... I will always think in the box that is the confines of my heart and mind in this body...

**Yes Of Course !! ... However You Need To Expand Beyond This !! ... When It Is Your "Time" & When You Are Ready Of Course !!

You still are in a box too apparently... is it fun pretending yours is better? you seem to enjoy it

**We Are What You May Say ... Are Far Removed From Such Restraining Enclosures !! ... Our Way Is Not Better ... It Is Not Worse !! ... It Is Simply The Way Of Ourselves & Our Beings !!

You wanna call me a debunker? lol... you better have some words of wisdom lol or else you debunked yaself just nobody else was willing to think this up...

**Your Point Is Incoherent !! ... Confused & Distorted !! ... We Do Not Understand Of Which You Refer !! ... *We May Suggest That Another Personality (Perhaps Other Then That Which Posted Under The "Handle" Moogle ??) Is Present !!

People care still.. scary... be scared aliens lolol... pfft...

NEXT IDEA TO SAVE OUR PLANET PLZ? rofl

**Again These Things Are Not Understood & To Us ... "Incoherent Thoughts" Of Confusion & Distortion !!

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You must know that alot of people who have read the Bible here will be un-savable when the world reaches the end of end times

They believe if they make a "deal" or "agreement" for saving themselves they will go to hell (and I will explain why)... they would see it as "selling their souls to satan/evil/lucifers" they just cannot find it in them to save themselves because they were taught Jesus would have to save them (because:)... That they need something pure as the path to God and that only God can be reached in that way... people believe only through Jesus can they get forgiveness and redemption (through something pure) cause that is how they have to reach God...

So in whatever happens tons of people will die

Enlightenment would be rejected, probably, because people believe in the simple existence apart from knowledge... this also courteous of the Bible, specifically the garden of eden scenario

Many here would suggest there are a plethora of Biblical prophecies that have come true... Some that may have been planted: Noahīs Ark in Turkey... etc... I have seen pictures of it buried partway in snow and ice and nobody can get close to it but they have seen it... So how do you explain that?

Also, Christianity has a self-protecting mechanism to itīs teachings so any other beliefs are seen as untrue... this shouldnīt be underestimated...

You may see it as ill-logical... but you must understand from their standpoint you and others are contradictions to that which is deemed "divine"

It seems if you really wanted our support you would have done something close to what Jesus has done (send the purest one you can get here)... or create a book that would tell us what is needed... but it was not done I guess... That is a fault you have made I believe... and you have been detached for so long...

You must understand when you say I am distorting and etc etc... I am stuck in these same beliefs kind of - a rock and a hard place -... because I do care and to my knowledge there is nothing else... I canīt find anything else...

Even astral projection seems iffy because everyone supposedly knows what happens now there is no objective way to verifying what one has experienced, to my knowledge...

How can you expect us to believe people in your place created us when you could not forsee us using weed to smoke... God would supposedly know all... though you say you are not THE God... it would seem that if you created us you are our God...

Did you take on something you couldnīt control with our creation?

I mean I take the fact that I am here right now... to mean that something is amiss... I am classified of the personality type INTP which is less than 5% of the population here... I put others before myself and the greater good before myself... I feel like I am here because good people must be kept in check :O
I donīt see how you can "GROW" here... I see how you can get so lost you give up on everything... I see only the rich gaining peace of mind... I see people with so many flaws they cannot do anything but suffer who have no alternative...

You keep speaking of "life is what you make of it"... Seems like that is some "carpe diem" thing you keep saying to get us to give in to the troubles here... Yeah ok you could live a simple life work endless here make a little bit of money and survive... and depending upon how much suffering you have experienced before that it could be seen as paradise...

Itīs just wrong... I am a distrubed individual lol... put down by everyone because I seek and donīt usually just accept things... The fact I am here is proof of this...

someone called me a skeptic... stupid labels and stereotypes are what we used to categorize but there are so many exceptions... you must seek or you do yourself and nobody else any good here most likely... you think KNOWLEDGE is just given free here (like the Bible)... This society controls us... these aliens are trying to control us... EVERYTHING WANTS TO CONTROL US it seems like... itīs total insanity... and someone here calls me a SKEPTIC... you better be one man... damn...
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You must know that alot of people who have read the Bible here will be un-savable when the world reaches the end of end times

They believe if they make a "deal" or "agreement" for saving themselves they will go to hell (and I will explain why)... they would see it as "selling their souls to satan/evil/lucifers" they just cannot find it in them to save themselves because they were taught Jesus would have to save them (because:)... That they need something pure as the path to God and that only God can be reached in that way... people believe only through Jesus can they get forgiveness and redemption (through something pure) cause that is how they have to reach God...

So in whatever happens tons of people will die

**Everything Depends On Oneīs Individual "Soul Agreements/Arrangements" ... "Religious Belief" Is Not The Only Factor Involved !! ... *For Those That Agreed To Stay Here & Witness The Changes ...The Shift ... From A "Physical 3rd Density Perspective" ... This Is One View !!

Enlightenment would be rejected, probably, because people believe in the simple existence apart from knowledge... this also courteous of the Bible, specifically the garden of eden scenario

**There Will Still Be Those Who Believe In "Enlightment" ... However We May Say That "The Enlighted" Will Be "Enlightened" !! ... As To What Was Said To Them ... And As To What Really Happened In Those Of Termed: "Ancient Times" !!

Many here would suggest there are a plethora of Biblical prophecies that have come true... Some that may have been planted: Noah´s Ark in Turkey... etc... I have seen pictures of it buried partway in snow and ice and nobody can get close to it but they have seen it... So how do you explain that?

**Very Simple To Explain ... As Stories Were Stolen From Many Cultures To Make Up That Which Is Called: "The Bible" !! ... Unfortunately The Biblical Versions Are Those That Have Been Changed/Altered & Are Of Great Distortion !! ... *This Is Not Unlike Those Of This Age Who Steal An Idea From An Individual & Patent It !! ... Thereby Gaining Recognition & Wealth !! ... The Stories/Happenings Were Not Theirs ... But The Credit Is Taken For Such !!

Also, Christianity has a self-protecting mechanism to it´s teachings so any other beliefs are seen as untrue... this shouldn´t be underestimated...

**We Do Not Underestimate !! ... We Know Of This Distortion Of The Masses Here On Terra/Earth !! ... *It Is The Very Mechanisms That Protect Such Untruths That Will Lead To Itīs Downfall !!

You may see it as ill-logical... but you must understand from their standpoint you and others are contradictions to that which is deemed "divine"

**Yes We Acknowledge That Point Of View !! ... And The Seemly From A Vantage Point ... The Irrational Thoughts Of Such Adherants !!

It seems if you really wanted our support you would have done something close to what Jesus has done (send the purest one you can get here)... or create a book that would tell us what is needed... but it was not done I guess... That is a fault you have made I believe... and you have been detached for so long...

**There Have & Are Many Teachers Here ... Many Instructors !! ... Although You Do Not Recognize Them As Such !! ... There Are Valid Reasons For The Way We Need To & Have To Interact At This Venture ... At This "Time" With Your Culture/Society !! ... We Are Not Here To Dictate To You !! ... And To Teach You Want You Need To Know ... What You Need To Learn ... Would Take Many Many Such Instructional Manuels !! ... *It Is Not A Fault As We Have Seen By Your Own Examples Of What Has Been Done Here On Your World ... What Damage/What Contamination Even (1) Book (Irregardless If This Was Composed Of Stolen & Distorted Information Of Happenings & Events Here !!) ... Has Done !! ... So We Have Used & Do Use Other More "Practical Methods" Of Learning/Teaching !!

You must understand when you say I am distorting and etc etc... I am stuck in these same beliefs kind of - a rock and a hard place -... because I do care and to my knowledge there is nothing else... I can´t find anything else...

**Yes This Is Understood !! ... We Stated That You Were Distorting ... As Your Thoughts & Words As Stated In Parts Of Your Previous Posting Were "Scrambled & Without Solidity & Connection" ... This Was Difficult To Decipher !! ... *Yes You Are A "Feeling Individual" That Cares !! ... And Of Your Problems & Difficulties Here ... You Will Be Given Assistance & Help !! ... We Come In Many Forms ... Many Looks !! ... So Do Not Dismiss ... "The Common Beggar In The Street" V.S. Someone Who Is Clothed In Outer Apparel From Saks Fifth Avenue !! ... As Who Knows What Appearance "One Of The Light" May Assume ??

Even astral projection seems iffy because everyone supposedly knows what happens now there is no objective way to verifying what one has experienced, to my knowledge...

**This Not Being Able To Verify ... Was Not An Intentional Slight By Any Means ... This Is Simply How Things Function ... How They Work !! ... As There Are Understandings To This Of Which You May Not Be Aware Of !! ... Which All Contribute To Your Not Being Able To Confirm Such Experiences !!

How can you expect us to believe people in your place created us when you could not forsee us using weed to smoke... God would supposedly know all... though you say you are not THE God... it would seem that if you created us you are our God...

**Our Species Is Only One Of Such Called "Creators" ... There Are Many Many More !! ... The Foreseeing Of Using Marijuana To Smoke Was Not Overlooked !! ... As The Beings Of That/Those Creations Did ... Along With Many Other Plants & Many Other Life/Lifeforms ... Give This As A Gift !!

**As Was Stated ... We & Other Galactic Beings ... Have No "God" !! ... This Changed Word (From Gods) Is A Reference To The "Creator Beings" Who Were Already Here (Under Permission Of The Council/Confederation Of Worlds) To Conduct Experiments In Producting The Best As Possible Composite Shells/Bodies In Which To Withstand The Various Climatic Conditions Of Terra/Earth ... Itīs Radiations ... And The Radiations & Other Energies Within This Solar System !!

**Other "Creator Beings" Those That Are Known As Anunnaki Came Later & Created Workers By Grafting On Their Attributes ... Their DNA To The Terran Ape Species ... Thereby Creating An Hairless Ape/Worker ... That Was To Be Used For Mining/Labor Purposes !! ... It Was Of These Creations Which Were Later (In Their Generations) Referred To As: Homo Sapien Sapien Or Humankind !!

Did you take on something you couldn´t control with our creation?

**No ... What Transpired Of Those That Created Lifeforms Here ... Was That One May Say ... An Unrecognized Error Was Discovered In The "Program Matrix" Of Our "Humanoid Creations" ... That Is Of Those That Grew To Form Tribes ... These Individual Tribes Found That Others Had Things That They Did Not Have ... And What Began As Simple Stealing & Raids ... Led TO Violence & Murder !!

**Those Creator Beings Saw What Was Happening ... And Called An "Emergency Conclave" To Come Up With A Solution !! ... They Understood That The Tribes Must Be United Under One Roof !! ... They Must Be Reconnected In A Solidary/Sole Purpose/Understanding !!

**In Discussion One Creator Being Suggested An Establishment Of "Worship Of The Creator Beings" (Which Was Changed To "Worship Of The Gods ... And Later "God") ... This Suggestion Was Voted On !! ... *Myself In That Lifetime Brought Up A Thought ... That Creating Such A Lie ... A Fabrication Would Indeed Unite The Tribes & Stop The Violence & Bloodshed !! ... However He Asked Them To Project This ... That Such Beings In Futher Generations Would Branch Off & Create Their Own "Relgions" With Their Own Supporting "Gods" ... And They Would Use The Reasoning That "Their God" Is Mightier Or The Only One ... To Wage Battle Upon Battle ... Wars Upon End ... Upon The Peoples & All The Life On Terra/Earth !! ... In That Lifetime I Felt It Sad To Come To The Conclusion That It Was Better To Have Our Creations Kill/Murder Each Other & Start Creation Again (Eliminating The Mistake) ... Then To Condemn Our Creations To Such Prolonged Misery & Suffering !!

**In The Voting ... The Motion Passed !! ... My Concerns Were Noted ... But Ultimately Dismissed !! ... My Good Friend & Commrade Anpu/Anubis (The Dogon (Dog Headed Being) From Sirius B) Abstained From The Voting ... As It Was His Belief That Such Was A "Damn If You Do & Damn If You Donīt" Senerio !! ... *But Even Though He Did Not Vote ... He Left "Humankind" A Joke That Might One Day Help To Uplift These Beings To Greater Understanding !! ... He Stated In His Great Humor/Laughter (Of Many Barks & Yips !!) ... That "God" Is Actually Read From Right To Left ... Which Spells Dog !! ... And It Was He Anpu/Anubis That Is The "Dog Headed Creator Being" ... One Of Many Physical Creator Beings That Brought Forth Life To This Planet/World !!

**In That Lifetime & In Sucessive Lifetimes I Took A Vow ... A Pledge To Do What I Could To Help Terran Kind To See Beyond The Illusions Of Fictious Religion ... To That Which Connects All Life/Lifeforms Everywhere !! ... And Connects The Beings Here ... With Their Sisters & Brothers Of "Space" !! ... *I Have Been Such A Teacher/Instructor Ever Since !!

I mean I take the fact that I am here right now... to mean that something is amiss... I am classified of the personality type INTP which is less than 5% of the population here... I put others before myself and the greater good before myself... I feel like I am here because good people must be kept in check :O
I don´t see how you can "GROW" here... I see how you can get so lost you give up on everything... I see only the rich gaining peace of mind... I see people with so many flaws they cannot do anything but suffer who have no alternative...

**Well Unfortunately As With All Volunteers That Come To Terra/Earth ... They Have The Understanding Before Making A Decision To Come Here To To Help ... That They Know That In "Generalized Terms" ... That This Is A Very "Backwards Planet" !! ... Not The Planet Itself Mind You ... But The Way Beings Think & Understand Things ... Is Shocking Limited !!

**All These Things That You Concern Yourself With ... All This Will Be Changing Soon !! ... I Know This Is Difficult To Accept The Thought Of ... Do Not Give Up Faith/Hope !! ... As There Are Many Things ... "Happening Behind The Scenes" ... Happening In The Background ... That You May Not Be Aware Of ... That Will Change This World For The Better !! ... *One May Look Upon Such Undesirable Lessons Found Here As ... Tempering/Hardening A Sword !! ... As In What Lies Ahead ... One May Need Such Lessons/Understanding In Which To Grow Both Spiritually & Physically !!

You keep speaking of "life is what you make of it"... Seems like that is some "carpe diem" thing you keep saying to get us to give in to the troubles here... Yeah ok you could live a simple life work endless here make a little bit of money and survive... and depending upon how much suffering you have experienced before that it could be seen as paradise...

**Oh No !! ... It Is Not At All Something Said To Have You "Give In" ... But Rather To Say That This Is Just A Stage ... A Teaching Area !! ... Everything That Happens Here Is Not Perminent !! ... In Order To Learn Particular Lessons ... The Stage, The Props & The Charactors Are Provided !! ... As It Is You & The Beings Here ... That Make The Story What It Is !!

It´s just wrong... I am a distrubed individual lol... put down by everyone because I seek and don´t usually just accept things... The fact I am here is proof of this...

**There Is No Right Or Wrong !! ... However There Is Purpose To The Lessons/Teachings !! ... Seeking Answers To What Lies "Beyond The Curtain" Is Not Being A "Disturbed Individual" !! ... Rather In These Times ... It Is The Mark/Sign Of High Intelligence !!

someone called me a skeptic... stupid labels and stereotypes are what we used to categorize but there are so many exceptions... you must seek or you do yourself and nobody else any good here most likely... you think KNOWLEDGE is just given free here (like the Bible)... This society controls us... these aliens are trying to control us... EVERYTHING WANTS TO CONTROL US it seems like... it´s total insanity... and someone here calls me a SKEPTIC... you better be one man... damn...

**Well I Suspect By A Defination Here (And Not All Definations Mind You !!) ... You May Be Called: "A Skeptic" !! ... But Therein Lies The Problem With Attempting To Clarify A Thought/Thought Pattern Using "Words" !! ... As Words Do Not Convey ... Do Not & Are Unable To Transmit What Is Actually Meant !! ... So As You Are Stating ... It Is Only A Label ... An Attempt Here To Classify & Pigeonhole A View/Understanding ... So As Limit The Individuals Knowledge ... And The Openness Of Knowledge Itself !!

**It Is Not We Who Think In Such Terms !! ... Consider That Yes Indeed ... Knowledge Is Free & Attainable !! ... However We Know That Certain Knowledge In The Wrong Hands Can Hurt & Harm Others !! ... So Of Our Understanding & Of Our Technologies ... We Show Restraint !! ... And We Limit Certain Knowings ... Till Such Time(s) That It Is Determined That Life/Lifeforms Are Ready To Accept The Responsibilites For Such Gifts !! ... *It Is Simpilar In Example To Being Given A Pet !! ... Such A Lifeform In The Environs Of Which It Will Be A Personal & Family Companion ... Needs To Have Food, Water, Shelter & Lots Of Affection (Amongst Other Things !!) ... So Even While Such An "Animal" In Itīs Natural Environment May Be "Self Maintaining" ... By Accepting This Being As A Pet ... One Has Assumed Responsibility For It !! ... *Likewise In Knowledge One Must Be Prepared To Accept All Responsibilites For Itīs Proper Use ... Once Given !!

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My meditation has payed off... I feel totally changed now... I hope this stays... I give my thanks to the creator :D

Hopefully I remain this way and can do some good now... thanks all too heh... since we are all interconnected...

I am so happy... I can function again... itīs a miracle... oh and I thank myself for it too :P

GL to everyone here...
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Quote: "My meditation has payed off... I feel totally changed now... I hope this stays... I give my thanks to the creator :D

**Speaking In Behalf Of All The "Creator Beings" Out There ... We Thank You !!

Hopefully I remain this way and can do some good now... thanks all too heh... since we are all interconnected...

**The "All Of All" Say Our Pleasure !! ... All Together Now !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

I am so happy... I can function again... it´s a miracle... oh and I thank myself for it too :P

**Well Not Quite A Miracle ... You Just Needed A "Boost" !! ... We Are Pleased In Your Change !! ... Yes Indeed You Can Say ... "And I Helped" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

GL to everyone here...

**And To You As Well !! ... Best Of Continued Success !!

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Be praying for you in Jesusī name, because I can.

From your first post:
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LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...V
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It is inconceivable that an īextra terrestrialī as yourself would use a tagline as such to convey such life changing knowledge as you claim.

I find your actions crass.
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He is still here....Idol1alien03alien03alien16alien11

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Some people have alot of time to waste.
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ST in BG
Be praying for you in Jesus´ name, because I can.

From your first post:
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LIVE LONG AND PROSPER...V
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It is inconceivable that an ´extra terrestrial´ as yourself would use a tagline as such to convey such life changing knowledge as you claim.

I find your actions crass.

**We Regret To Say ... That Such Was Not Our Posting !! ... This Was Done By The Individual(s) By The Handle/Name Of "Alien" ... We Are & Have Always Used ST In BG ... Which We Are "The Other Guys" !! ... And Have No Connections & Relationship To "Alien" !!

**You May Pray To Whomever You Wish !! ... However You Might Place Your Call To: Apollonius Of Tyana ... As This Is The Physical Being Of Whom His Life Experiences & Travels Were Ursuped ... Taken & Changed By Those With The Roman Empire ... & Used To Create The Composite/Created Fabrication Termed: Jesus !!

**As You Have Us Confused With Another Poster ... Then Your Views On Our Actions As Being Crass ... Is In Error !! ... Please Correct Your Data/Thought Patterns To Reflect This Updated Imput !!

Thank You !!

ST In BG
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My apologies for confusion.

Why did you wait for 4 pages before you questioned this īimposterī? Iīm sure you would have seen/read it beforehand, before deciding when it was in your best interests to do so.

Now it seems as if you have hijacked this thread with your own twisted truth reality.

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**You May Pray To Whomever You Wish !! ... However You Might Place Your Call To: Apollonius Of Tyana ... As This Is The Physical Being Of Whom His Life Experiences & Travels Were Ursuped ... Taken & Changed By Those With The Roman Empire ... & Used To Create The Composite/Created Fabrication Termed: Jesus !!
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No thanks.
Iīll keep trusting and praying in Jesusī name.
Iīm sure you realise that we are all responsible for own actions, and the effects of them on others.

If you wish to lead people astray, so be it.
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scratching

No kidding...
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ST, doesnīt almost every culture on Earth have an equivalent of the Christ-Messiah entity?

Why couldnīt there have been more than one?

Or the same type of energy inhabiting different bodies?

Why not?


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Apollonius of Tyana

Apollonius of Tyana (2-98 C.E.) was a philosopher and mathematician of Greek origin. His teaching influenced scientific thought for centuries after his death.

He is best known through the medium of the writer Philostratus, in whose biography some have seen an attempt to construct a rival to Jesus Christ.

Apollonius was a vegetarian, and a disciple of Pythagoras. He is quoted as having said "For I discerned a certain sublimity in the discipline of Pythagoras, and how a certain secret wisdom enabled him to know, not only who he was himself, but also who he had been; and I saw that he approached the altars in purity, and suffered not his belly to be polluted by partaking of the flesh of animals; and that he kept his body pure of all garments woven of dead animal refuse; and that he was the first of mankind to restrain his tongue, inventing a discipline of silence described in the proverbial phrase, "An ox sits upon it." I also saw that his philosophical system was in other respects oracular and true. So I ran to embrace his teachings..."

He was born in the city of Tyana, in the Roman Empire province of Cappadocia in Asia Minor. Educated in the nearby city of Tarsus, his life took on nearly legendary proportions when, it is said, he visited Rome and raised the daughter of a senator from the dead. He wrote many books and treatises on a wide variety of subjects during his life, including science, medicine, and philosophy.

His scientific theories were ultimately applied to the earth-centered Ptolemaic idea that the sun revolved around the earth. A few decades after his death, the Emperor Hadrian collected his works and ensured their publication throughout his realm.

Some scholars, both ancient and contemporary, believe that Apollonius was actually the Christian Apostle Paul, as many of his teachings coincide with those of Paul, and Apollonius is said to have done many of the same things Paul did.

Others suggest Apollonius was the Jesus Christ of the Christian scriptures. But there is no concrete evidence of this.

Others, such as the 2nd-century wit Lucian, ascribed the false magic of "the notorious Apollonius", transmitted through a pupil, to the bag of impostures played by Alexander the false prophet, a contemporary travelling mage posing as a priest of Asclepius, ca 150 - 170.

[link to www.tertullian.org]

According to the Philostratus account, after keeping a vow of silence for five years, Apollonius trekked from Greece to India in order to "converse with the Brahmins". During this journey, and subsequent return, he attracted a scribe and disciple, Damis, who recorded events in the life of the philosopher.

These notes described a number of events in the life of Apollonius, including events relating to a succession of emperors, as he lived 100 years. Eventually the notes of Damis came into the possession of the empress Julia Domna, who commissioned Philostratus to use the notes to assemble a biography of the sage.

His fame was still evident in 272, when the Emperor Aurelian besieged Tyana, which had rebelled against Roman rule. In a dream or vision, Aurelian claimed to have seen Apollonius speak to him, beseeching him to spare the city of his birth. In part, Aurelian said Apollonius told him "Aurelian, if you desire to rule, abstain from the blood of the innocent! Aurelian, if you will conquer, be merciful!" Aurelian, who admired Apollonius, spared Tyana.

Medieval Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyanīs Book of Stones is a lengthy analysis of alchemical works attributed to Apollonius (called "Balinas") (see e.g. Haq, which provides an English translation of much of the Book of Stones).

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My apologies for confusion.

**That Is Quite Alright !!

Why did you wait for 4 pages before you questioned this ´imposter´? I´m sure you would have seen/read it beforehand, before deciding when it was in your best interests to do so.

****Well A Simple Answer Is ... I/We Came In Late To This Thread !! ... So These Pages Were Already Done ... Already Up Before We Came Onboard !!


Now it seems as if you have hijacked this thread with your own twisted truth reality.

**Well No !! ... There Has Been No Hijacking Involved !! ... Individuals Have Asked Questions And We Responded !! ... There Was No Attempt To Solicit In This Regard !! ... If The Original Poster Wished To Stay Onboard ... This Was Their Choice !! ... However In Respect To Those Who Asked We Made The Decision To Stay !!

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**You May Pray To Whomever You Wish !! ... However You Might Place Your Call To: Apollonius Of Tyana ... As This Is The Physical Being Of Whom His Life Experiences & Travels Were Ursuped ... Taken & Changed By Those With The Roman Empire ... & Used To Create The Composite/Created Fabrication Termed: Jesus !!
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No thanks.
I´ll keep trusting and praying in Jesus´ name.
I´m sure you realise that we are all responsible for own actions, and the effects of them on others.

**You Are Quite Welcome To Do This !! ... If This Is Your Choice/Belief !! ... *Indeed We Are Quite Aware Of The Thoughts In Regarding ... "Cause & Effect" & We Are Sure You Are Too !!

If you wish to lead people astray, so be it.

**In That Regard ... One Must Examine Their Own Truths & Modivations !! ... And Decide If This Is Factual/Accurate !!

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If you wish to lead people astray, so be it.

**In That Regard ... One Must Examine Their Own Truths & Modivations !! ... And Decide If This Is Factual/Accurate !!

I am seeking truth through Jesus and the Bible, and so far I havenīt been let down.
I donīt pretend to know all answers, though I have one basic truth - Jesus.

Iīll still pray for you, and love you.
I will not love your actions/fruit of your labours though.
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ST, doesn´t almost every culture on Earth have an equivalent of the Christ-Messiah entity?

Why couldn´t there have been more than one?

Or the same type of energy inhabiting different bodies?

Why not?

**Anything Is Possible !! ... However Apollonius Of Tyana Did Not Proclaim Himself To Be A "Christ-Messiah" ... But Rather We Would Say Was A Traveler Who Journied To Many Countries ... And Passed Along The Teachings/Wisdom Of Those He Had Aquired While Visiting There !!

Scant Information Remains Of This Being Today ... All Of The Temples Built In Honor Of Him Were Torn Down/Destroyed !! ... And A Whole Library ... The Great Alexanderian Library Was Put To The Torch ... To Purge Any Record ... Of His Existence ... Along With The Very Ancient Of Records !! ... This Was Done By Those Who Wished To Rewrite History In Their Own View ... Their Own Name !!

It Is Maintained ... (Although Your Article Below States There Is "No Concrete Evidence" Of Support !! (Not Surprising !! ... Do To That Apollonius Is Still A Threat Today To The "Status Quo" !!) ... That This Being Was The Foundation For The Basis Of The One Called: Christ/Jesus !! ... And It Was His "Fan Base" Amongst The Populace That Was Thefted/Stolen ... Along With The Stories Of His Travels & Adventures !!

History Today Would Not Know Of Apollonius Of Tyana ... Except For The One Book That Was Rescued From The Flames Of The Burning Of The Great Alexandrian Library !! ... That Done By The writer Philostratus.

*The Article Is Stating That Philostratus Is Seen By Some To Have Attempted In Apollonius Of Tyana To Have Constructd A Rival To Jesus Christ !! ... The Farthest Could Be From The Truth !! ... As It As Not Apollonius Who Was The Rival ... But The Fictional Composite Charactor Of Jesus Christ ... Of Whose Attributes Were Taken From Apollonius Of Tyana !!

**It Is Interesting That The Article States That "A few decades after his death, the Emperor Hadrian collected his works and ensured their publication throughout his realm" ... *We Question This Thought ... (Unless This Is The Salvaged (From The Flames) Book Written By Philostratus) ... As Any & All Mention Of This Beingīs Name, Stories/Adventures Was To Be Cleansed !! ... As The Plan Was To Rewrite History By Those Within The Roman Empire !! ... And Thereby Control & Manipulate The Populace !! ... Any Note/Mention Of Apollonius Of Tyana Would Bring Light Onto Bear Of The One "Created" Called Jesus Christ !! ... To Have Individuals Question Authority !! ... And They Couldnīt Have That !!

Yes There Were Many Teachers In Various Forms Who Have Walked This Planet ... Although There Have Also Been Frauds Created In Their Name !! ... And The Composite Being Jesus Christ Was One Of Those Fictions/Fabrications/Frauds !!

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Apollonius of Tyana

Apollonius of Tyana (2-98 C.E.) was a philosopher and mathematician of Greek origin. His teaching influenced scientific thought for centuries after his death.

He is best known through the medium of the writer Philostratus, in whose biography some have seen an attempt to construct a rival to Jesus Christ.

Apollonius was a vegetarian, and a disciple of Pythagoras. He is quoted as having said "For I discerned a certain sublimity in the discipline of Pythagoras, and how a certain secret wisdom enabled him to know, not only who he was himself, but also who he had been; and I saw that he approached the altars in purity, and suffered not his belly to be polluted by partaking of the flesh of animals; and that he kept his body pure of all garments woven of dead animal refuse; and that he was the first of mankind to restrain his tongue, inventing a discipline of silence described in the proverbial phrase, "An ox sits upon it." I also saw that his philosophical system was in other respects oracular and true. So I ran to embrace his teachings..."

He was born in the city of Tyana, in the Roman Empire province of Cappadocia in Asia Minor. Educated in the nearby city of Tarsus, his life took on nearly legendary proportions when, it is said, he visited Rome and raised the daughter of a senator from the dead. He wrote many books and treatises on a wide variety of subjects during his life, including science, medicine, and philosophy.

His scientific theories were ultimately applied to the earth-centered Ptolemaic idea that the sun revolved around the earth. A few decades after his death, the Emperor Hadrian collected his works and ensured their publication throughout his realm.

Some scholars, both ancient and contemporary, believe that Apollonius was actually the Christian Apostle Paul, as many of his teachings coincide with those of Paul, and Apollonius is said to have done many of the same things Paul did.

Others suggest Apollonius was the Jesus Christ of the Christian scriptures. But there is no concrete evidence of this.

Others, such as the 2nd-century wit Lucian, ascribed the false magic of "the notorious Apollonius", transmitted through a pupil, to the bag of impostures played by Alexander the false prophet, a contemporary travelling mage posing as a priest of Asclepius, ca 150 - 170.

[link to www.tertullian.org]

According to the Philostratus account, after keeping a vow of silence for five years, Apollonius trekked from Greece to India in order to "converse with the Brahmins". During this journey, and subsequent return, he attracted a scribe and disciple, Damis, who recorded events in the life of the philosopher.

These notes described a number of events in the life of Apollonius, including events relating to a succession of emperors, as he lived 100 years. Eventually the notes of Damis came into the possession of the empress Julia Domna, who commissioned Philostratus to use the notes to assemble a biography of the sage.

His fame was still evident in 272, when the Emperor Aurelian besieged Tyana, which had rebelled against Roman rule. In a dream or vision, Aurelian claimed to have seen Apollonius speak to him, beseeching him to spare the city of his birth. In part, Aurelian said Apollonius told him "Aurelian, if you desire to rule, abstain from the blood of the innocent! Aurelian, if you will conquer, be merciful!" Aurelian, who admired Apollonius, spared Tyana.

Medieval Islamic alchemist Jabir ibn Hayyan´s Book of Stones is a lengthy analysis of alchemical works attributed to Apollonius (called "Balinas") (see e.g. Haq, which provides an English translation of much of the Book of Stones).

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"Apollonius Of Tyana ... As This Is The Physical Being Of Whom His Life Experiences & Travels Were Ursuped ... Taken & Changed By Those With The Roman Empire ... & Used To Create The Composite/Created Fabrication Termed: Jesus !!"






No kidding...

**Indeed !! ... No Kidding !!

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We See An Error Which Was Made !! ... As Was Stated ... "**It Is Interesting That The Article States That "A few decades after his death, the Emperor Hadrian collected his works and ensured their publication throughout his realm" ... *We Question This Thought ... (Unless This Is The Salvaged (From The Flames)Book Written By Philostratus) ... As Any & All Mention Of This Being´s Name, Stories/Adventures Was To Be Cleansed !! ... As The Plan Was To Rewrite History By Those Within The Roman Empire !! ... And Thereby Control & Manipulate The Populace !! ... Any Note/Mention Of Apollonius Of Tyana Would Bring Light Onto Bear Of The One "Created" Called Jesus Christ !! ... To Have Individuals Question Authority !! ... And They Couldn´t Have That !!"

**We Find Later In The Article The The Thought Becomes Unconfused & Clarifies Itself !! ... As Quote: "These notes described a number of events in the life of Apollonius, including events relating to a succession of emperors, as he lived 100 years. Eventually the notes of Damis came into the possession of the empress Julia Domna, who commissioned Philostratus to use the notes to assemble a biography of the sage."

**So Of The Note Of Damis ... Came Forth The Biography Written By Philostratus ... That Was Part Of The Collections Of: "The Great Alexandrian Library, Alexandria Egypt !! ... Of Which Was Salvaged From The Flames ... And Secreted Away ... To Be Published/Republished Later !!

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After it was adjusted to suit the Roman Empire, Iīm guessing.
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Thatīs quite reasonable, actually.
It wouldnīt surprise me.
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Sounds quite typical, considering all the deceit and greediness of mankind
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I will continue my meditation... I do not feel as lightened as I was last night but I still feel more centered in my body...

Hereīs what I did... maybe it could help you:

Let a quartz crystal of your choosing sit out for 3 days in the sun...

Take the crystal inside (donīt touch it that much yet put it in a bag or something)... then put the crystal in a cup (I used plastic)... wait like 10 seconds or so... drink the water... then put the wet crystal on your forehead...

Now... get as relaxed as possible (as still in your body as possible)... breathe and envision white light entering through the top of your head... DO NOT BE SCARED... there is no reason for it... just get the most peace you can...

For 8 hours yesterday, or more, I felt totally incredible and thought incredibly... my memory was better... I felt better... how I treated people was better... I had more control over myself... I didnīt feel as grounded as usual and confused... gravity or some grounding force didnīt have me as much...

ST in BG, any thoughts on this? All I know is I am gonna try it again sometime soon... it seems some of the effects of the meditation were permanent, for instance

I woke up this morning feeling more energized... no groggy morning feeling... the way I used my breath is/was more efficient due to what I did... EVERYTHING was better for the sake of me and everyone else...

I strongly suggest this to anyone... alteast try it and let me know

- Moogle
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I put it in water because I realize water is good with vibrations... and of course... once you relax and your mind etc starts to vibrate at a higher frequency, due to the stone and the act of meditation and relaxing... this vibrates the water that you drank in you... I think creating a sort of sustained effect... also the wet rock on your forehead allows a greater conduction... :D Enjoy
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Hola Extraterrestre!!
Madre qué gilipollez es esta??
En fin...Es que me aburro mucho,sabes?? y na me e metido aquí... seguro que nadie entiende nada porque aquí todo el mundo escribe en inglés pero me da igual porque me aburro mucho!!
Pues nada marcianito, que nosotros te aceptamos aquí en la Tierra,eh??para que luego no digas que somos bordes hombre ya!!
Bueno tío que te dejo ya,y si eres un marciano de verdad entenderás lo que te digo,no??porque inteligente serás digo yo...jajaja no me creo nada pero bueno
Adiós!!
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Quote: "After it was adjusted to suit the Roman Empire, I´m guessing."


Quote: "That´s quite reasonable, actually.
It wouldn´t surprise me."

**Yes Indeed You Stated This Correctly ... "Adjusted" To Suit The Roman Empire !! ... And Thatīs What Happened !! ... The Real Person Who Was Regarded As A "Holy Man/Sainted Man" For His Teachings & Healings (Not Miracles !! ... But Using Greater Knowledge Of The Medicial Sciences !!) ... His Name Was Almost Obliterated ... In Favor Of A "Fictional Savior" That Could Be Used To Control & Manipulate The Peoples !!

*As A Personal Note ... I Have A Hardcover Book In My Collections Called: He Walked The Americas (Not Sure Of The Author ??) ... Amherst Press, Amherst Wisconsin (Middle 1960īs) ... That Gives Tribal Stories/Renderings About A White Man ... Who Visited Many Tribes/Many Nations ... Which Taught & Healed !! ... And I Believe It Was Said That When It Was Known That This Person Was To Visit ... All Hostilites Ceased Immediately !! ... He Could Walk Into Their Camps/Villages With No Throught Toward Harm !! ... As He Was Regarded With Deep Respect & Honor !! ... And When He Had To Leave To Journey Elsewhere ... The Tribal Peoples Wept Openly !! ... As If They Were Losing A Deep Beloved Friend & Companion !!

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Quote: "Hola Extraterrestre!!
Madre qué gilipollez es esta??
En fin...Es que me aburro mucho,sabes?? y na me e metido aquí... seguro que nadie entiende nada porque aquí todo el mundo escribe en inglés pero me da igual porque me aburro mucho!!
Pues nada marcianito, que nosotros te aceptamos aquí en la Tierra,eh??para que luego no digas que somos bordes hombre ya!!
Bueno tío que te dejo ya,y si eres un marciano de verdad entenderás lo que te digo,no??porque inteligente serás digo yo...jajaja no me creo nada pero bueno
Adiós!!"

**We Regret Our Conduit ... Our Terrestrial Link Is Unable To Translate Your Communication !! ... Would You Please Restate Using Terrestrial English ?? ... As This Is What The Translator Is Used To !!

Thank You !!

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I will continue my meditation... I do not feel as lightened as I was last night but I still feel more centered in my body...

Here´s what I did... maybe it could help you:

Let a quartz crystal of your choosing sit out for 3 days in the sun...

Take the crystal inside (don´t touch it that much yet put it in a bag or something)... then put the crystal in a cup (I used plastic)... wait like 10 seconds or so... drink the water... then put the wet crystal on your forehead...

Now... get as relaxed as possible (as still in your body as possible)... breathe and envision white light entering through the top of your head... DO NOT BE SCARED... there is no reason for it... just get the most peace you can...

For 8 hours yesterday, or more, I felt totally incredible and thought incredibly... my memory was better... I felt better... how I treated people was better... I had more control over myself... I didn´t feel as grounded as usual and confused... gravity or some grounding force didn´t have me as much...

ST in BG, any thoughts on this? All I know is I am gonna try it again sometime soon... it seems some of the effects of the meditation were permanent, for instance

I woke up this morning feeling more energized... no groggy morning feeling... the way I used my breath is/was more efficient due to what I did... EVERYTHING was better for the sake of me and everyone else...

I strongly suggest this to anyone... alteast try it and let me know

I put it in water because I realize water is good with vibrations... and of course... once you relax and your mind etc starts to vibrate at a higher frequency, due to the stone and the act of meditation and relaxing... this vibrates the water that you drank in you... I think creating a sort of sustained effect... also the wet rock on your forehead allows a greater conduction... :D Enjoy

**There You Go Moogle !! ... My Response Is ... Whatever Works For The Individual ... Whatever Works For You !! ... For Myself (I Might Or Might Not Have Mentioned This ??) ... That My Way Of "Reaching Out" Is Through Psychometry With Stones !! ... I Was Even Given In A Vision From An Aged Shawnee Tribal Medicine Chief ... The Name ... "Talks With Stones" !!

Best Of Luck & Have Fun In Your Adventures !!

Take Care !!

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Sounds quite typical, considering all the deceit and greediness of mankind

**Yes AC ... Unfortunately That Was The Case ... And Still Is The Case Today !! ... We Keep Asking Ourselves ... When Will They Ever Grow Up ???

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ST and BG,
I am very impressed by your imparted knowlege that you are so generous to share. I`m in total agreement with EVERYTHING that you have relayed. You say that we hu mans are a creation of yours and that basically we were an experiment that essentially went awry. Are you saying with this information that the hu man experience is NOT a natural evolutionary early stage of development of the soul? Are not the souls that occupy the hu man physical bodies of equal status universally as you the creators?
now confused
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ST,

Does the Zetas have mechanical robots to perform hazardous/tedious tasks or do you create (as master genetisists) robotlike organic lifeforms to perform these tasks. Does a soul/energy essence animate this bio shell and do you have a soul contract with this lifeform to perform the tasks?

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ST and BG,
I am very impressed by your imparted knowlege that you are so generous to share. I`m in total agreement with EVERYTHING that you have relayed.

**Thank You For Your Kind Words !!

You say that we hu mans are a creation of yours and that basically we were an experiment that essentially went awry. Are you saying with this information that the hu man experience is NOT a natural evolutionary early stage of development of the soul? Are not the souls that occupy the hu man physical bodies of equal status universally as you the creators?
now confused

**The "Creator Beings" That Of Which Would Encompass Both The Beings Involved In The "Original Experiments" & Those Of The "Anunnaki" ... Created The Physical Containers To House The "Energy Essenses" !! ... That Of Which You Term: "Soul" !!

**In The Physical Yes !! ... It Is One Perception That There Was An Error In The Programming ... Which Caused Those Creations Of Whom Had Formed "Tribal Groups" To Become Envious/Jealous Of One Another !! ... And In This Mindset Kill One Another For Their Goods Of Which The Other(s) Did Not Have !!

**To Speak Of "Development Of The "Energy Essense" ("Soul") Is An Entirely Different Matter Then Simply The Bio-Containers Themselves !!

**For The "Energy Essenses" To Choose To Come To Terra/Earth ... And Particpate In Such Experiments/Projects Going On ... Is Indeed A Learning & Growth Opportunity/Experience !! ... However Terra/Earth Is Just But One Of Many Such Places To Learn !! ... Of Which Has Projects That One May Volunteer For !! ... So As To "Natural Evolution"/Development Of The "Energy Essense" ("Soul") ... Such Is Entirely Dependant On Those Energies ... Which Make The Choice If It Wants To ... Or Does Not Want To Avail Themselves Of "Advanced Training" !! ... And In Doing So ... Take Instead Of One Rung Of The Latter Upward At A Time ... They Can Take Two Or More Rungs !! ... So In Each Instance The Choice(s) Are Up To Each Individual ... Although Not As Often Heard Of ... "Group Energies" Can Decide (If Bodies Are Available) To Volunteer Too !! ... It Just Depends ... On Who/Whom Are Making The Decision(s) !!

**All "Energy Essenses" ("Souls") Are What May Be Termed ... A "Spark" From The Source Of All ... From Which They Seperated ... Out Of Curiousity ?? ... To Experience, To Learn, To Grow !! ... And By Going Through Many Experiences In Many Octaves ... Many Densities/Vibrational States Of Learning ... They May Reunite Once Again With The "Source" Of Which They Left !! ... And By Doing So ... The Purpose/Need/Desire For Having Seperated In The First Place Will Now Be Satisfied !!

**We May Say That From A Viewpoint ... That Basically All "Energy Essenses" ... All "Souls" Had Begun The Same ... From The Same Source !! ... It Is Only Of The Choices & Experiences Per Each Individual "Spark" That Would Perhaps Seperate One From The Other(s)!! ... *As An Example Which May Illustrate This Thought ... In A Terrestrial Embodiment One Has The Choice Of Professions/Jobs That They May Undertake !! ... Say One Chooses To Be A Professional Musician ... And Another An Auto Mechanic !! ... These Are Individual Choices Made !! ... And So The Lessons Necessary For Such A Career Are Learned !! ... *While It May Be Said That The Musician Might Not Be Able To Overhaul A Car Engine ... Or An Automechanic Conduct A Symphony Orchestra ... They Are Still "Energy Essenses" ... Individual "Souls" !! ... And Of Each Of Lifetimes More & More Individual Experiences Are Gained !! ... Which Make Each "Being" Different & Unique !! ... And Yet Each "Soul" Is Striving For The Same Thing ..."Reunification With The Source Of All" Of Which They Are Part Of ... And Connected To ... As They Are Connected To All Life Everywhere !!

**So The Thought Towards "Equal Status" Is Perception !! ... As Each Is Equal To One Another ... And Differs Only In The Choices Of Lessons/Experiences Offered ... The Embodiments, Stage & Setting(s) Where Such Lessons Are Given ... And What Option(s) Were Decided Upon !!

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