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So st in bg, your conduit has recently seen 2 objects in the sky recently, well i assume one is nibiru, what i am wondering is this, Is this the first time your conduit seen these 2 objects from on the land of tera earth? Did he see these in bowling green ohio? So what do you mean by recent, after gregorian year 2006 was over, during 2007 did you see these spacial objects? This must mean since you conduit seen these recently that the pole shift/major change is very close!

I know i discussed the timing of the shift with you, and you stated specifically you the conduit and st in bg, that you believe the main changes will occur before end 2009! I know your probably irritated with all the questions as to the timing, then what throws me off, is the (anything is possible) which again irritates and bugs the hell out of me if we as the human race have to endure another 4 or 5 years or even longer to wait to change bodies! I am sick to my stomach if we have to wait that long for these planetary changes to occur.

I heard rumors that our tax rebates that we will get this year are actually advances from the 2009 tax return, and we will then get less in 2009 for a return essentually what i heard was that if we get $600 dollars for a tax rebate this 2008 then during the tax refund season of 2009, we will get $600 dollars less essentually it is like borrowing money that will have to be paid back the following year, now if the planetary changes don't happen by then, is this statement true on what the government plans to do with our money?

Again, i am sick of waiting, as i bet everyone here who believes your message is. I know your conduit has expressed his disgust with the waiting more so than we as he is part of the crew so involved. I'm thinking about the changes everyday you got to understand how much pain i am in, i am even discussing these things with fellow co workers and family members, some believe its possible and others i mentioned a pole shift and such as they said not in our lifetime but back to the fact, some may think i am crazy but you got to understand that I will be thought as being gullible and people saying you can't believe everything you see on the internet, I Josh want to prove people wrong as i tell people i got inside information and they laugh at me and such and think i'm crazy and gullible to what i believe in. So i want so bad to prove people wrong that nibiru/planet x is real and main planetary changes with a pole shift will essentually eliminate the human form and we will be so in 4th density forms in new bodies/containers, yes i am gullible at times and believed in things that were of false natures.

So if you st in bg, are playing with our minds and this thread is a Joke and a game to you, boy/man do you got me fooled!!

I know your posts are detailed with amazing facts about mind blowing/boggling ideas, if this threat of nibiru causing as much damage and destruction to wipe out the current human form and all the things/stuff/ideas that you are spreading across this thread is true and fact to the best of your ability, if true then wow , but if false and a game and Joke to you, well man, the Jokes on us then!!

Thanks for reading, your friend, Josh.
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**Indeed !! ... We Are Very Humorous Individuals Who Are Full Of Fun, Joy & Laughter !! ... As Many Of Us Come From Different Points In Our History ... One Might Encouter Those Of More Scientific Natures ... Who Process Emotions By Mental Means ... To Those Like Ourselves ... Who Are Of More Of The Current Models ... Who Are More "Emotionally Vibrant" !! ... *All Of Us Though Have A Great Sense Of Humor !! ... And We Enjoy Pulling Great Pranks & Practical Jokes !! ... We Are Very Ornery Ornery Ornery/Mischevious Peoples !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!


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**Indeed We Are "Jokers" ... We Love To Laugh & We Love A Great Gag/Practical Joke(s) !! ... Thank You For That Compliment !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... As To Paying A Visit ... We Are Already One !! ... Although We Do Stop In ... From "Time To Time" ... Or He Rings Our Doorbell !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

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Also why was I chosen to be raised with the people who are my parents or relatives, do I have some type of bond with them that is beyond this life here on earth?

**Oh You Mean A Connection ?? ... Why Yes Of Course !! ... You Do Know That You Choose Your Own Parents ?? ... And You Are Given A Preview Ahead Of Time ... What You Will Encounter & How Things Will Be !! ... Quite Often (As With Myself) The Beings That You Choose As Your Parents ... Might Indeed Be Of Your Own Celestial Family !!

St in bg, i was born to 2 very young parents about 18 or 19 years old, they have decided right away they were not going to keep me, so i stayed in the hospital awhile and was kept their for repairs/surguries to my birth defect, i was then put into a foster home of which i was named David, then from their 2 loving parents adopted me to become their child and their names were put on my birth certificate , not the original parents who birthed me, and these 2 people were asked by the foster parents to keep David as my middle name since my parents wanted to change my name to Joshua, hence Joshua David, but my last name is very confidential as i don't want my identity exposed.

Then my parents who adopted me were asked by a social worker if they were interested in 3 young boys, so now we got the adopted parents 2 kids they birthed, 1 boy, 1 girl, (the reason mom couldnt have any more kids, surgury on or around her sexual organs due to a problem she had and needed a operation) Myself Josh, and 3 young boys, which is 6 kids, then adopted 2 more young boys, 8 kids now, these kids either were beaten, left to eat out of trash and such as parents were on major drugs or in jail and had problems, even paul and tom got wipped by their foster parents by a cow belt, ouch, then my mom adopted a girl who was about 12 at the time, now makes it 9 kids, she's turned out to have many kids with many men in her current body, ehh, then my mom and dad adopted a 5 year old girl brittany, now 10 kids, as she was once left in her dads truck with other siblings when her birth dad was at work, how mean. She lies and steals as she was growing up, that was the 1 sister i got along with although i didnt like her lies and stealing that she did sometimes.

St in bg, this sister brittany i felt attracted to for some reason like i felt we are connected with one another, why in the world would that be st ? Although were adopted, our family is made up of many people/humans from different areas, how in the world would we be able to get connected if indeed we all are from different locations and things had to fall in perfect place for all of us to be in this large family, ranging from all the experiences these kids had with their birth parents, some do drugs , some got caught drunk driving, and such, much comment apreciated?

Then they adopted another boy who had troubles with the law and such, that made it 11 kids, and finnaly adopted another girl, made it 12 kids, 8 boys, 4 girls. Julia the last kid was born of a mother who heavely used drugs and such and in jail, Julia is mean hearted at many times , was mean to many of us at times, sometimes only when she wanted something to happen her way, did she ask nicely and want to be friendly, at times she would be so bitchy and bossy, mean. Now since she married to this guy and have kids , she has mellowed out more, and talks to me more, as where she used to be mean to me for no reason if i even talked to her sometimes, what a bitch. but now since she has started to talk to me more as family when i do see her at parties or holidays, i can actually have conversation with her, as i used to get in mental fights with her not physical, but shouting matches, hee,hee,hee.

That is part of my family history, and it is a long history, and very interesting indeed, and i'm curious about the family members how we could possibly what way we could be connected since we , most of us , 10 of us out of 12 have been adopted, and me Josh adopted at 6 weeks old, well i Josh am ok with revealing my family history and my life, i have many nieses and nephews of which are all born of my adopted family, and not adopted themselves, makes me wonder sometimes if i could have fathered any of these energies in the containers of my neises or nephews or even any of my siblings or parents. I feel very connected with nieses and nephews, as a couple of nieses say Joooooooooooosh when they see me, as they show love and compasion to their uncle, as the girls seem more affectionate than the guys do, hee,hee,hee. Enuff about me , tell me about yourself? heeee,heee,heee, your a great friend to have, sincerely , Josh.
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You know I’ve been reading this thread for about three months now, and still can’t tell if this is truth or deception. I’m beginning to wonder what’s the point, you say you’re here to help but anyone who asks you basically don’t. Since knowledge conquers fear you would think that telling the truth would be the main reason for thread.

The tale about the ‘Flood’ leave the question why did any human even survive only to have communication/language scrambled, introduction to false religious doctrine and blinded from the truth any way possible. On a constant diet of fear death and prosecution for human life, I really wonder if daddy (ANU) is going to spank the two brats (ENKI and ENLIL) for not cleaning the mess they were told to clean up 3600 years ago! But then again maybe he’ll destroy this World and say “c’mon boys let go to ‘Alfa Dingo Pluto’ the life there is even dumber then the Earthlings we can have a ball.” On the other hand, perhaps the Draconian Empire exiled you here and the human form was for an escape plan and these containers don’t work quite right, and the Anunaki return for final judgment. Will the Sun set for YOU finally?

As for "brownie points" coming from you? Pfffftt

BITE MY ASS

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St in bg, what was/is the purpose for all these cable wires to be purposely cut to disrupt communications? Thanks for reading, Josh.
Live Life To The Fullest As It May End Most Abruptly. Give The Upmost Respect To All Beings.
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Greetings: A scientist who cares: User ID: 370505

Hi St in BG,

How are you?

**The Conduit Is Holding On !! ... We (Ourselves) Are !!

Reasons for questions? Yes, i too sometimes want to know about some, it rather depends, a bit difficult to explain maybe? He Depends on particular themes...

**Hmmm !!

Don´t you ask questions for learning more?

**Not Necessarily !!

Didn´t you asked them to get to what (you claim at least) to be now?

**The Conduit Perhaps ... We ... However Employ Different Methods !!

Isn´t life asking questions about life in other parts?

**Life Is ... As It Is !! ... For Ourselves We Employ ... The Methods ... Which Answer The Questions !!

Isn´t it a pattern? How common is it or isn´t it?

**It Is ... Of Which Cannot Be Explained ... For You To Understand !!

Would you mind to tell me what you think about that human theory concerning human induced global warming on planet Terra / Earth?

**It Is ... Incorrect ... Do To ... Not Accepting & Incorporating ... All Available Data/Information Available !!

What you think about IPCC predictions?

**The IPCC Predictions ??

I would appreciate very much your answer.

**We Have Answered ... Except For ... The IPCC Predictions !!

Where are your proofs that undermine the many hard proofs on natural evolution processes then?

+ Can you suggest me where to look?

**No ... We Cannot !!

++You cannot because it´s for our lessons/teachings?

**Yes ... It Includes These !!

**Did You Wish ... "Evidences" .... Of Our Being There ?? ... Having Been "Involved" !! ... If You Know Where To Look ... & How To Interpret ... All The "Hard Proofs" ... Are There !! ... Moreso Then ... "Terrestrial Scientific Guesses" !!

+so? Some specific hints please?

**This Is For Your Lessons/Teachings ... So We Cannot Give These ... At The Moment !!

++But you said that they are just there if we know where to
look...

**This Is Correct !! ... And How To Interpret !!

so, that takes me to ask: Had we looked or more exactly, had some of us had? And... What about all the hard proofs "written" in the fossil records?

**These Are "Hard Proofs" ... However ... Not Understood ... & Poorly Interpreted !!

Do you think that human paleontologist are so selfish and blind to invent or misinterpret them in such a large way

**No ... They Simply Do Not Know !!

or are they not in contradiction with what we are missing (but then how could this be, remember the lineages and the patterns in the record, they don´t tell a story of
predominant artificial intervention but otherwise, although i don´t think they exclude the possibility for this being part of the process in certain places, a minor part with large and amazing consequences possibly)? Is it
fair to think that?

**One Has To First Understand ... What They Are Looking At ... Then ... They Can Go From There !! ... They Can Build On This ... From This Foundation !!

And what about our knowledge concerning genetics and the
natural and laboratory experiments that had been carried out? Hadn´t this comprehensions more to do with lessons/teachings already than a mysterious and inaccessible line of thought (line of proofs may be more proper)? Are we missing some questions? Perhaps?

**They Are Looking ... But Not Seeing ... Not Understanding !!

Why are this among the forbidden information?

**One Does Not Dabble ... In Things Which Are Beyond ... One's Comprehension !! .... It Is Akin To ... A Child ... That Is Allowed Free Reign ... To Explore ... Without Safeguards !!

We are not talking about anything that would threatens anyone at all in a rational civilization...

**In A "Rational Civilization" ... Perhaps ?? ... However ... What Entails ... A "Rational Civilization" ??

well maybe that´s the point (is it?) with the short minds of many (but not most, not all!) of my fellow humans
unfortunately, who had been and are being successfully prompted by some of their leaders (and often unfairly forced) toward struggles they/we don´t need at all and creates necessary/irrational suffer and destruction, and
may be able to damage each other for keeping their "artificial" differences in place.

**It Is Amongst Those Things ... Of A Plan(s) ... Which One Perceives ... On The Surface !! ... However Below The Surface ... There Is Much More !! ... Much More Indeed !!

That could be completely understandable, but with such thoughts we would be keeping science (human limited science if you want) far away as possible from all these people and we will be in the way to obscurantism and
underdevelopment. We try otherwise.

**They Dabble In Things ... Which They Should Not Be ... Dabbling In !! ... Of Which Cause For Themselves ... Lots Of Problems ... Of Which We ... Have Needed To Void ... To Neutralize ... Otherwise ... There Would Be No Life ... On Your Planet !!

I don´t ask for technological knowledge we may not be
ethically/logistically prepared at this moment to cope with,

**Those There ... Are Not Balanced ... In Understandings Of What They Do ... In The Things & Energies They Work With ... Of How Such Effects All Things ... All Life !! ... Nor Are They Balanced In Wisdom ... Of What To
Do ... And What Not To Do !!

i just ask for a supposed missing part in our comprehension of life´s evolution on Terra / Earth. You claim to know and not be allowed to talk about, strange.

**The Missing Part Is ... Interventionism !! ... This Is The "Missing Link" ... Between The Two Halves ... Creationism ... & Evolution ... Blending Both Together As One ... With Greater Understanding Of Both !! ... That
"Creator Beings" ... Created With Their Knowledge ... All Life/Lifeforms On Terra/Earth !! ... Planted The Seeds ... So To Speak !! ... Then Let The Seeds Take Root & Grow Into "Plants" !! ... Coming Back To Weed The "Plants"
... & Replant With Stronger Forms If Necessary ... Then Letting These Seeds ... Take Root & Grow !! ... This Is The Termed: "Evolution" ... The Part Of The Process Where The Experiments Is Let Go ... To Develop On It's Own !!
... And Then ... Necessary Genetic Changes & Alteration Are Done !!

**Appealing ... For What Reasons ... What Causes ?? ... To What Purpose(s) ?? (Talking about addressing nature and especifically life evolution and the hard proofs on it)

++I already answered before, but i will try again...
When intelligence arise it seems to reach a "phase" (observed in human evolution backwards at least on the Homo sapiens Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal, and perhaps in a lesser degree up to what i know, even since Homo erectus), ... "it seems to reach a phase" in which it begin making questions about it´s life, about it´s environment and about the creation.

Had other human known species on Terra / Earth attained this phase?

**Not "Human Species" ... One May Say More Correctly ... Models ... Units !! ... Homosapiens ... Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal ... Are ... Different Models ... Different Experiments ... In Adaptability ... To Create The Body/Shell ... Best Suited ... For The Conditions That Existed ... In Certain Environments !! ... When The Environments Changed ...It Was Necessary ... To Upgrade ...
Change The Model !!

Apparently not, to our present knowledge,

**Not To The "Present Knowledge" & Understandings !!

nevertheless questions are obviously possessed by dolphins, other apes and many animals in relation to
their environment.

**Yes .. And Though The Energies Are In ... "Animal Forms" ... Their Awareness Overall ... May Be Considered Superior ... To That ... Of Those In Terrestrial Forms ... Who Are "Asleep" ... And Not Connected ... With The Life Forms ... & Life Energies Of The Planet !!

Memory and interaction seems very well distributed and
even plants may have some sort of this.

**Plant Forms Do !!

What the non human Earth´s biota didn´t ask is about the creation, it didn´t form any sort of elaborate (conceptual) model of reality (not just reality perception, which obviously they do). This conceptual model construction processes, built up by asking
questions and trying on the answers, is what had make up human societies and ultimately actual human science in it´s much more refined and corroborative orientations.

**This Would Be ... A Limited View !!

This is a clear propriety of the cosmos taking conscience of itself, intelligence looking, learning and building on the shared knowledge of curious beings.

**It Is ... An Aspect Of ... The Living Energies ... Being Curious ... Asking ... What If ?? ... And Exploring These Thoughts ... Though Many & Perhaps All Possible Scenarios !!


I hardly can imagine intelligent life without at least a
phase (most possibly a definitive phase, he) as a curious, inquisitive, collaborative group of beings (or group of these kind of beings).

Of course there is the chance that for whatever reason the universe, universes or multiverses (What you mean for that?) could attain such conscience by other ways (even not concerning beings or life, but sounds beyond logic to me),

**It Is ... A Different Understanding Of Things !! ... Beyond Emotion ... Beyond Logic !!

maybe all has been for ever and there is indeed a creator or everything as it is (What you think about by the way?).

**Not A Creator ... As In A "Secular Entity" ... But Perhaps That Which Is So Vast ... So Huge ... So Expansive In Scope ... As To Encompass All Life ... All Lifeforms ... All Energies ... All Things Everywhere ... Of Which It ... Is All Of This ... And We ... Of The Bodies/Shells ... & The Energies ... Of Our Connections ... Of The Multi-Facets Within ... That Make Up Who We Are ... Is Just A Very Very Very Tiny Infinite Speck ... Of This !!

So the reasons may be not so easy to glance at, but could be there and indeed they are for many questions; the
causes, you claim to know much better than us but are not actually allowed to share in a completely open way;

**There Will Always Be Questions ... And There Will Always Be Answers ... Though Given ... When It Is The Moment ... To Reveal These Things !! ... For Not All Teachings/Learnings ... Are Properly Given ... Without Having Basic Understandings Taught First !! .... The 1st Grade Primers Come First ... Then Comes Greater Learnings ... Greater Challenges ... And Finally Ones
Becomes So Learned ... That They Become The Teachers ... For Others !!

the purposes may exist or not even at all, all depends, as you have asserted... toward this many things (not anything in Terra / Earth present conditions at least) could be.

**Yes ... Of Course !!

I think this is a general perception and particular perceptions may be very specific as well as very limited, of course.

**Yes ... Though These "Particular Perceptions" ... Are Specific ... To The Individuals Teachings !! ... Of Which Their ... "Particular Form & Viewing ... Their Teachings" ... May Not Be Adequate ... For Another To Learn From !! ... Which Is Why... Everything Is "Tailored" ... For The Perfect Fit !!

What do you think?

**We Have Stated !!

Best wishes for all beings,

**Yes ... As Always !!

A scientist who cares

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST..

I can understand the Now part. Because.. whatever we are doing or where ever we are.. it is now.

**This Is True !!

But.. the way you say it.. we will stuck in now always.

**Not "Stuck" !! ... This Is Simply ... How Things Are ... How Things Have Always Been !! ... It Is The Way Of Things !!

If you take a step.. does it mean you cannot take another step?

**But Of Course Silly !! ... You Can Take Another Step !!

Taking another step is future.

**Taking Another Step ... Is Taking Another Step !!

If you take another step, the first one was past.

**No !! ... As This Is ... Linear Thought !! .... (Past, Present, Future) !! ... Non-Linear Thought ... Everything Exists In The Same Moment !!

Do you just continue normally walking around..

**Well Actually We Float !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

but there is eternity.. never a beginning or end?

**This Too ... Is Not Understood !!

Or are you just glued in position like a tree in "NOW "

**Oh No !! ... The Trees Move Around !! ... Unlike Yours ... That Tend To ... Stay Put !!

and can never do anything else? Just exist?

**Well No ... Our Trees Can ... Interact With Other Beings .... Lots Of Things !!!

Most perplexing.

**Quite Easy ... Once You Get The Hang Of It !! ... To Know ... That Non-Linear Time ... Of All Things Functioning Everywhere ... Everyplace ... Everytime ... All Exist In The Same Moment !!

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

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Sasha,
Why worry about what people think? The more they think your are crazy the more you are sane! I used to tell people about such things as disscussed on here and got the same reaction. Fuck them! They got their own lessons and agendas to learn.Make yourself feel better and click my youtube link.Its acting a little funny though.
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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 370049

So st in bg, your conduit has recently seen 2 objects in the sky , well i assume one is nibiru, what i am wondering is this, Is this the first time your conduit seen these 2 objects from on the land of tera earth?

**No !!

Did he see these in bowling green ohio?

**Over The Land That Is Called This !!

So what do you mean by recent, after gregorian year 2006 was over, during 2007 did you see these spacial objects?

**Gregorian Year ... 2007 & Before !! ... Recently ... 2008 ... Perhaps In January !!

This must mean since you conduit seen these recently that
the pole shift/major change is very close!

**It Is Coming !!

I know i discussed the timing of the shift with you, and you stated specifically you the conduit and st in bg, that you believe the main changes will occur before end 2009!

**That Is Possible/Probable !! ... If No "Major Changes" Occur !!

I know your probably irritated with all the questions as to the timing,

**It Can Be ... Well ... Tiring !! ... To Tell You Only ... What Is A "Probable Guess" ... In Relation To Variables & Data ... That Constantly Ebb & Flow ... Constantly Change !!

then what throws me off, is the (anything is possible) which again irritates and bugs the hell out of me

**Anything Is Possible Josh !! ... Until Such Manifests As A "Reality" ... In Your Frame !! ... One Can Only Apply
"Best Guess" !!

if we as the human race have to endure another 4 or 5 years or even longer to wait to change bodies! I am sick to my stomach if we have to wait that long for these planetary changes to occur.

**We Would Dare Say ... That You Won't Have To ... Wait This Long !!

I heard rumors that our tax rebates that we will get this year are actually advances from the 2009 tax return, and we will then get less in 2009 for a return

**It's Another Game ... To Play With ... & Manipulate Peoples Emotions !! ... Perhaps It Won't Really Matter ???

essentially what i heard was that if we get $600 dollars
for a tax rebate this 2008 then during the tax refund season of 2009, we will get $600 dollars less essentially it is like borrowing money that will have to be paid back the following year,

**Yes ... We Have Read On This !!

now if the planetary changes don't happen by then, is this statement true on what the government plans to do with our money?

**They Have More Plans ... Then Just This !!

Again, i am sick of waiting, as i bet everyone here who believes your message is.

**Yes ... We Know !!

I know your conduit has expressed his disgust with the
waiting more so than we as he is part of the crew so involved.

**Well Not A Disgust ... But Perhaps An Impatience ... With Wanting To ... Forge Ahead ... & Get Things Done !!! ... Of Which He Is Ready ... More .... Ahead Of
Schedule .... So For Him ... It Is Frustration & A Hurry Up & Wait !!

I'm thinking about the changes everyday you got to understand how much pain i am in,

**We Can Very Much Understand !!

i am even discussing these things with fellow co workers and family members, some believe its possible and others i mentioned a pole shift and such as they said not in our lifetime

**It Is Difficult !! ... Difficult Knowing !! ... Holding All This In ... Holding All This Back !! .... And Not Discussing & Sharing It With Others !!

but back to the fact, some may think i am crazy but you got to understand that I will be thought as being gullible and people saying you can't believe everything you see on the internet,

**You Have To Develop Josh ... A Thick Hide ... A Thick Shell !! ... As If You Go Down This Path ... You Will Encounter Individuals With Varying Options ... On The Subject Matters !! ... Not All To Your Favor !! ... So If You Choose To Walk This Path ... You Must Be Prepared For This !! ... To Know When To Say ... & When Not To !! ... To Be Able To Wade Through The Muck ... Through The Obstacles ... That Obstruct & Lay On The Road ... That Block The Road !! ... It Is Not Easy ... The Conduit Can Vouch For This !!!

I Josh want to prove people wrong as i tell people i got inside information and they laugh at me and such and think i'm crazy and gullible to what i believe in.

**This Is An Ego Thing Josh !! ... Life Does Not Always Hand You ... Proof In Hand ... To Wave Under People's Noses ... So As To Waken Them ... From Their Dreams !! ... It Just Does Not Always Work That Way !! ... In More
Times Then Not ... You Will Not Have ... Tangible/Credible Proof ... Something Solid ... That Cannot Be Dismissed To Show Them !! ... And Even If You Did ... Those With Closed Minds ... Would Still Dismiss/Deny The Evidences !!

So i want so bad to prove people wrong that nibiru/planet x is real and main planetary changes with a pole shift will essentially eliminate the human form and we will be so in 4th density forms in new bodies/containers,

**You Many Not Have The Opportunity ... To Prove People Wrong !! ... That Is Not The Lesson ... Needed To Be Learned !! ... They Do Not Need To Be Proven Wrong ... You Just Need For Yourself ... Undeniable Proof !! ... You Won't Convince Them !! ... You Can Only Convince Yourself ... And That Really ... Is All That Matters !! ... As They .. These Others Who Are "In Denial" ... Must Find Their Own Proofs !! ... Maybe They Will ... Maybe ... They Will Not !! ... But In Either Case ... It Will Not Stop .. .What Is To Be !!

yes i am gullible at times and believed in things that were of false natures.

**You Are Not "Gullible" ... You Are Simply ... More Open Then Others !! ... Of Which The Openness Can Tend To Be "Self Evaluated" ... As Being "Gullible" ... Though It Is Not !! .... Rather It Is ... When You Evaluate ... You Take In ... Whatever Is Out There !! ... Which Would Encompass Many Things At The Same Time ... Be It From "Fringe Science" (Non Regarded "Proofs") ... To Black & White ... Provable (As They Believe !! ... Factual) Science (By Their "Limited Methods" Of Understanding!!)

So if you st in bg, are playing with our minds

**We Are Not !!

and this thread is a Joke and a game to you,

**It Is Not !!

boy/man do you got me fooled!!

**There Was No Fooling !! ... We Are Quite Honest & Upfront ... In What We State !!

I know your posts are detailed with amazing facts about mind blowing/boggling ideas,

**Quite Commonplace Things & Ideas To Us !!

if this threat of nibiru causing as much damage and
destruction to wipe out the current human form and all the
things/stuff/ideas that you are spreading across this thread is true and fact to the best of your ability,

**It Is ... Based On Our Understandings !!

if true then wow ,

**It Is ... To Our Understandings !!

but if false and a game and Joke to you, well man, the Jokes on us then!!

**It Is ... Not A Game ... Nor A Joke !!

**Indeed !! ... We Are Very Humorous Individuals Who Are Full Of Fun, Joy & Laughter !! ... As Many Of Us Come From Different Points In Our History ... One Might Encounter Those Of More Scientific Natures ... Who Process Emotions By Mental Means ... To Those Like Ourselves ... Who Are Of
More Of The Current Models ... Who Are More "Emotionally Vibrant" !! ... *All Of Us Though Have A Great Sense Of Humor !! ... And We Enjoy Pulling Great Pranks & Practical Jokes !! ... We Are Very Ornery Ornery Ornery/Mischievous Peoples !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**Indeed We Are "Jokers" ... We Love To Laugh & We Love A Great Gag/Practical Joke(s) !! ... Thank You For That Compliment !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... As To Paying A Visit ... We Are Already One !! ... Although We Do Stop In ... From "Time To Time" ... Or He Rings Our Doorbell !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**The Above Is Fact !! ... We Are Of ... Clownish/Humor Natures ... As A Peoples !! ... However This Has No Bearing (Other Then A Few Jokes We Add In ... Every So Often !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!) ... On The Information That We Are Giving ... As Passed Through The Conduit !! ... So You May Relax ... As To The Thinking & Worry ... That We Are "Playing Games" & Joking ... When We Are Giving Our Transmissions !! ... We Are Also (Along With Our Being
Silly/Ornery !!) ... Quite Logical & Serious ... & Most Practical !! ... So It Is ... A Balanced Mix !! ... Of Our Beings !! ... High Intellect/High Intelligence/Knowing ... And Being Able To See ... That The Way Of Things ... The Way Of Life ... Might Appear To Be Grim ... Might Appear To Be Dark On The Outside ... Like A Rain Cloud ... But Within ... It Has A Silver Lining !!

tell me about yourself?

**Such Information Is Restricted !! ... For What The Conduit Was/Is To Do ... While In The 3rd Density Body ... These "Life Experiences" ... Were Put To The Side ... As Other Things ... Were ... & Have Become ... More Important !!

St in bg, what was/is the purpose for all these cable wires to be purposely cut to disrupt communications?

**As A Prelude To War ... Or A Thought About War Situation !! ... Disable/Bind Up Communications First ... Then When It Is The Moment ... Invade The Territory !!

Thanks for reading,

You Are Very Welcome !!

your friend, Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST

You know I've been reading this thread for about three months now, and still can't tell if this is truth or deception.

**It Is ... Of The Facts ... The Truth ... Of The Limit Of Which We Can/Are Allowed To Say/State !!

I'm beginning to wonder what's the point, you say you're here to help

**We Are !!

but anyone who asks you basically don't.

**The Form Of Help We Render ... Is Not Necessarily ... That Which They May Perceive !!

Since knowledge conquers fear you would think that telling
the truth would be the main reason for thread.

**We Tell The Truth ... As Stated ... Of The Limit Of Which We Can ... Are Allowed To !! ... Rather Then Others ... Who Create Fictions ... Create Lies To ... Fill The Gaps/Blanks ... We Will Indicate ... Of When We Are Not Allowed To Converse In Certain Matters ... Of Certain Subjects !! ... Or May Only Answer (In Allowance) ... In A Generality !!

The tale about the 'Flood' leave the question why did any human even survive

**Any Being(s) ... Rather Then ... "Humans" !!

only to have communication/language scrambled,

**This ... Separation Of Languages ... Actually The Curtailing Of Telepathic Communication ... Came About Much Earlier !! ... This Was Do To Playing ... Monkey See ... Monkey Do !! ... The Beings Decided To Erect/Build A Launch Tower ... To Invade/Violate Anu's Privacy !! ... This Could Not & Would Not Be Permitted !! ... The Beings Were Altered ... Their Launch Tower Destroyed ... By Atomics !!

Introduction to false religious doctrine

**We Explained Why This Was !! ... Of The Conduit In That Form ... In That Time ... He Was One Who Forsall What Would Happen ... & Voted Against The Plan ... To Create ... A Worship Of The Creator Beings ... Later Creators ... Later Gods ... Later God !! .... It Was More "Expedient" At The Time ... To Create This False Worship ... Then Let The Creations ... Murder
Themselves !! .... However ... The Genetic Coding Was Not Fixed ... This Coding Was Passed Down To Successive Generations ... To Which The Bloodshed Was Not Quenched ... It Expanded !! ... Now Each Branch/Group ... That Created A "Belief" ... A Religion ... Felt They Had Their "God(s)" Backing Them !! ... To Which You Have The Problems Of Your Today !! .... Which Continues On !!

and blinded from the truth any way possible.

**There Were Choices As Far As ... How & When ... To Reveal ... Such Truths ... To "Humankind" !! ... We Chose To ... From The Beginning !! ... Others Were Not ... As Forthcoming !!

On a constant diet of fear death and prosecution for human life,

**??? ... Hardly That !!

I really wonder if daddy (ANU) is going to spank the two brats (ENKI and ENLIL) for not cleaning the mess they were told to clean up 3600 years ago!

**You Intend Insult !! ... However Your "Supreme Ignorance" Of How Things Are ... ... Is Most Evident !! .... Such Insults To Those Of Royal Linage
... Can Be Most ... Non-Beneficial !! ... Though For Now ... For The Moment ... We Will Ignore This ... & Seek To Educate !! ... Anu ... The Father ... Does Not Have ...
"Two Brats" !! ... He Has (2) Very Respected & Honorable Sons !! ... Each Have Their Differing Personalities ... And Their Respective Jobs/Duties To Perform !!

**Enki & Enlil ... Did Not Make A Mess ... On Terra/Earth !! .... And Neither Were They Ordered/Told ... To Clean Up A "Fictional Mess" ... Which They Did Not Create ... On The Order Of 3,600 Terrestrial Years Ago ... Of Your Time Understandings !!

But then again maybe he'll destroy this World and say "c'mon boys let go to 'Alfa Dingo Pluto' the life there is even dumber then the Earthlings we can have a
ball."

On the other hand, perhaps the Draconian Empire exiled you here and the human form was for an escape plan and these containers don't work quite right, and the Anunnaki return for final judgment. Will the Sun set for YOU finally?

**But Then ... On The Other Hand ... Anu ... Might Reconsider Your "Supreme Ignorance" (Bordering On "Stupidity" !!) ... & Your Intended Insults ??

As for "brownie points" coming from you? Pfffftt

**The "Brownie Points" Are Not Coming From Us !! ... It Is YOU ... That Lay Insult(s) ... And Then Have The Gall/Nerve ... The Audacity ... To Ask For Favors !! ... I/We Don't Think So !!

BITE MY ASS

**Perhaps The Ass Will Bite You Instead ???

LOU

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Howdy ST,

You still amaze me, I cannot comprehend how you can possibly keep track of all this here....anyone doubting you are a conduit,well....

I'm kind of bumed out today. My Human father and brother are off to Iraq.He claims so my brother will not be by himself yeah sure. Those two morons deserve each other. My baby sister has also joined,she is not headed there but still.

Like everyone else here who is not a blinded fuck I cannot wait to leave. I do not know how much longer I can hold my rage at all the dishonerable wrong that is going on around me! I feel a massive need to destroy something.


Take care!
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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 370049

So st in bg, your conduit has recently seen 2 objects in the sky , well i assume one is nibiru, what i am wondering is this, Is this the first time your conduit seen these 2 objects from on the land of tera earth?

**No !!

Did he see these in bowling green ohio?

**Over The Land That Is Called This !!

So what do you mean by recent, after gregorian year 2006 was over, during 2007 did you see these spacial objects?

**Gregorian Year ... 2007 & Before !! ... Recently ... 2008 ... Perhaps In January !!

This must mean since you conduit seen these recently that
the pole shift/major change is very close!

**It Is Coming !!

I know i discussed the timing of the shift with you, and you stated specifically you the conduit and st in bg, that you believe the main changes will occur before end 2009!

**That Is Possible/Probable !! ... If No "Major Changes" Occur !!

I know your probably irritated with all the questions as to the timing,

**It Can Be ... Well ... Tiring !! ... To Tell You Only ... What Is A "Probable Guess" ... In Relation To Variables & Data ... That Constantly Ebb & Flow ... Constantly Change !!

then what throws me off, is the (anything is possible) which again irritates and bugs the hell out of me

**Anything Is Possible Josh !! ... Until Such Manifests As A "Reality" ... In Your Frame !! ... One Can Only Apply
"Best Guess" !!

if we as the human race have to endure another 4 or 5 years or even longer to wait to change bodies! I am sick to my stomach if we have to wait that long for these planetary changes to occur.

**We Would Dare Say ... That You Won't Have To ... Wait This Long !!

I heard rumors that our tax rebates that we will get this year are actually advances from the 2009 tax return, and we will then get less in 2009 for a return

**It's Another Game ... To Play With ... & Manipulate Peoples Emotions !! ... Perhaps It Won't Really Matter ???

essentially what i heard was that if we get $600 dollars
for a tax rebate this 2008 then during the tax refund season of 2009, we will get $600 dollars less essentially it is like borrowing money that will have to be paid back the following year,

**Yes ... We Have Read On This !!

now if the planetary changes don't happen by then, is this statement true on what the government plans to do with our money?

**They Have More Plans ... Then Just This !!

Again, i am sick of waiting, as i bet everyone here who believes your message is.

**Yes ... We Know !!

I know your conduit has expressed his disgust with the
waiting more so than we as he is part of the crew so involved.

**Well Not A Disgust ... But Perhaps An Impatience ... With Wanting To ... Forge Ahead ... & Get Things Done !!! ... Of Which He Is Ready ... More .... Ahead Of
Schedule .... So For Him ... It Is Frustration & A Hurry Up & Wait !!

I'm thinking about the changes everyday you got to understand how much pain i am in,

**We Can Very Much Understand !!

i am even discussing these things with fellow co workers and family members, some believe its possible and others i mentioned a pole shift and such as they said not in our lifetime

**It Is Difficult !! ... Difficult Knowing !! ... Holding All This In ... Holding All This Back !! .... And Not Discussing & Sharing It With Others !!

but back to the fact, some may think i am crazy but you got to understand that I will be thought as being gullible and people saying you can't believe everything you see on the internet,

**You Have To Develop Josh ... A Thick Hide ... A Thick Shell !! ... As If You Go Down This Path ... You Will Encounter Individuals With Varying Options ... On The Subject Matters !! ... Not All To Your Favor !! ... So If You Choose To Walk This Path ... You Must Be Prepared For This !! ... To Know When To Say ... & When Not To !! ... To Be Able To Wade Through The Muck ... Through The Obstacles ... That Obstruct & Lay On The Road ... That Block The Road !! ... It Is Not Easy ... The Conduit Can Vouch For This !!!

I Josh want to prove people wrong as i tell people i got inside information and they laugh at me and such and think i'm crazy and gullible to what i believe in.

**This Is An Ego Thing Josh !! ... Life Does Not Always Hand You ... Proof In Hand ... To Wave Under People's Noses ... So As To Waken Them ... From Their Dreams !! ... It Just Does Not Always Work That Way !! ... In More
Times Then Not ... You Will Not Have ... Tangible/Credible Proof ... Something Solid ... That Cannot Be Dismissed To Show Them !! ... And Even If You Did ... Those With Closed Minds ... Would Still Dismiss/Deny The Evidences !!

So i want so bad to prove people wrong that nibiru/planet x is real and main planetary changes with a pole shift will essentially eliminate the human form and we will be so in 4th density forms in new bodies/containers,

**You Many Not Have The Opportunity ... To Prove People Wrong !! ... That Is Not The Lesson ... Needed To Be Learned !! ... They Do Not Need To Be Proven Wrong ... You Just Need For Yourself ... Undeniable Proof !! ... You Won't Convince Them !! ... You Can Only Convince Yourself ... And That Really ... Is All That Matters !! ... As They .. These Others Who Are "In Denial" ... Must Find Their Own Proofs !! ... Maybe They Will ... Maybe ... They Will Not !! ... But In Either Case ... It Will Not Stop .. .What Is To Be !!

yes i am gullible at times and believed in things that were of false natures.

**You Are Not "Gullible" ... You Are Simply ... More Open Then Others !! ... Of Which The Openness Can Tend To Be "Self Evaluated" ... As Being "Gullible" ... Though It Is Not !! .... Rather It Is ... When You Evaluate ... You Take In ... Whatever Is Out There !! ... Which Would Encompass Many Things At The Same Time ... Be It From "Fringe Science" (Non Regarded "Proofs") ... To Black & White ... Provable (As They Believe !! ... Factual) Science (By Their "Limited Methods" Of Understanding!!)

So if you st in bg, are playing with our minds

**We Are Not !!

and this thread is a Joke and a game to you,

**It Is Not !!

boy/man do you got me fooled!!

**There Was No Fooling !! ... We Are Quite Honest & Upfront ... In What We State !!

I know your posts are detailed with amazing facts about mind blowing/boggling ideas,

**Quite Commonplace Things & Ideas To Us !!

if this threat of nibiru causing as much damage and
destruction to wipe out the current human form and all the
things/stuff/ideas that you are spreading across this thread is true and fact to the best of your ability,

**It Is ... Based On Our Understandings !!

if true then wow ,

**It Is ... To Our Understandings !!

but if false and a game and Joke to you, well man, the Jokes on us then!!

**It Is ... Not A Game ... Nor A Joke !!

**Indeed !! ... We Are Very Humorous Individuals Who Are Full Of Fun, Joy & Laughter !! ... As Many Of Us Come From Different Points In Our History ... One Might Encounter Those Of More Scientific Natures ... Who Process Emotions By Mental Means ... To Those Like Ourselves ... Who Are Of
More Of The Current Models ... Who Are More "Emotionally Vibrant" !! ... *All Of Us Though Have A Great Sense Of Humor !! ... And We Enjoy Pulling Great Pranks & Practical Jokes !! ... We Are Very Ornery Ornery Ornery/Mischievous Peoples !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**Indeed We Are "Jokers" ... We Love To Laugh & We Love A Great Gag/Practical Joke(s) !! ... Thank You For That Compliment !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... As To Paying A Visit ... We Are Already One !! ... Although We Do Stop In ... From "Time To Time" ... Or He Rings Our Doorbell !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**The Above Is Fact !! ... We Are Of ... Clownish/Humor Natures ... As A Peoples !! ... However This Has No Bearing (Other Then A Few Jokes We Add In ... Every So Often !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!) ... On The Information That We Are Giving ... As Passed Through The Conduit !! ... So You May Relax ... As To The Thinking & Worry ... That We Are "Playing Games" & Joking ... When We Are Giving Our Transmissions !! ... We Are Also (Along With Our Being
Silly/Ornery !!) ... Quite Logical & Serious ... & Most Practical !! ... So It Is ... A Balanced Mix !! ... Of Our Beings !! ... High Intellect/High Intelligence/Knowing ... And Being Able To See ... That The Way Of Things ... The Way Of Life ... Might Appear To Be Grim ... Might Appear To Be Dark On The Outside ... Like A Rain Cloud ... But Within ... It Has A Silver Lining !!

tell me about yourself?

**Such Information Is Restricted !! ... For What The Conduit Was/Is To Do ... While In The 3rd Density Body ... These "Life Experiences" ... Were Put To The Side ... As Other Things ... Were ... & Have Become ... More Important !!

St in bg, what was/is the purpose for all these cable wires to be purposely cut to disrupt communications?

**As A Prelude To War ... Or A Thought About War Situation !! ... Disable/Bind Up Communications First ... Then When It Is The Moment ... Invade The Territory !!

Thanks for reading,

You Are Very Welcome !!

your friend, Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Thanks, great info, as to the cable breaks and communication centers, are they going to succeed in invading and doing war with these countries by cutting these cables?

P.S. I can't find my cellular phone and has about 20 contacts on them from people, and this info isnt saved to the major company so to say , so some of the peoples phone numbers i will be able to get again and others i probably won't see again as they were bar buddies, friends when i lived in another town and havent called them in awhile, i will get a new cell phone but won't be in contact with all the energies/containers/shells that i was before unless i spot them out on the town, i'm so disapointed i will half to pay for a new phone, one with internet i think i will get, as i only got internet on my home computer, thanks for reading, Josh.
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Capitan...((hugs))

Know how you feel.
Hang in there.

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Where am I, on the Planet ? Whats my name ? How many fish do I have? The fish part might be hard but the rest I think you could find out.
Don't do this Naked.
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Hi, ST in bg

Could you please tell me what was my name nine hundred years ago? I don't have any recall of the life during that period. Could you please help me?
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Can you tell us who colonized the earth with humans and why?


**Later In Linear Time ... The Anunnaki (A Consortium Of Extraterrestrial Beings/Races/Species) Arrived ... And Do To Their Need To Mine Gold &
Other Precious Metals & Minerals ... Created What Were Intended To Be "Workers" !! ... To Remove The Laborious Tasks (Such As Mining) From Those Of The Anunnaki !! ... We Say "Intended" ... As This Was The Beginning Thought ... But Not The "End Result" !! ... As Do To Some "Purposeful Intervention" By
Wise & Ornery/Mischievous Beings ... Instead Of "Servants/Workers" ...
There Was The Early Creation Of "Independent Beings" ... Who Many Many Many Generations Later ... Became Known As "One Branch" ... Of Homosapien Sapiens Or ... "Mankind" !!

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ST in BG :
Thanks for all your info and time !!
Why is gold so important ?? even for ET ??
Would be easier to use hi tech artifacts to get it ??
Yesterday , IMF ( international monetary fund) said they were planning to sell 103.4 million ounces of gold worth some $92 billion at current market prices.
Kind of suspicious move ?? is it ?? It seems few ppl are planning to keep large amounts of gold for themselves ?? why ?? who ?? (Chinese Govt.??, TPTP ??) what for ??
Is silver as important and precious as gold ??
Does US Govt. have all gold reserve they claim or they have new owner ??

Thanks again .
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Well, ST is either a real living ET out there somewhere giving us very truthful and accurate information OR he or her is some star wars, Star Trek watching 33 year old living in his or her parents basement with too much time on thier hands.

maybe google is this humans friend? we ask a question and he/she googles it, finds the best logical answer thats not mainstream and copies and pastes away???

who knows. its the internet, anyone can be anyone on here.

we will never know for sure if ST is the real deal period. all we have is his 'word'.

but until then I will keep asking question because its still fun and somewhat educational, like a magic 8 ball haha


so in saying that my question is...

Where there really giant people living on earth many many linear years back? ive seen pictures of giant skeletons (60 feet tall) dug up in the middle east. Are those fake bones or real?

and all this cold weather and high winds we have been having lately, are they because of Nibiru? or some of it casued by TU24 passage?

thanks
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ST In BG, in this ancient carving, Nibiru appears to be pulling the inhabitants of earth up through a portal through the sun. The Anunnaki holding the circular object with an arrow(pointing up) seems to signify a portal. Is that true? Who is on the right?
If you say that isn't correct, I probably won't believe you, lol. Here is the link:
[link to www.mars-earth.com]
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Greetings: A scientist who cares: User ID: 370505

Hi St in BG,

How are you?

**The Conduit Is Holding On !! ... We (Ourselves) Are !!

Reasons for questions? Yes, i too sometimes want to know about some, it rather depends, a bit difficult to explain maybe? He Depends on particular themes...

**Hmmm !!

Don´t you ask questions for learning more?

**Not Necessarily !!
++ not necessarily at the moment? Surely before? Oh, unavoidable to touch time concept...




Didn´t you asked them to get to what (you claim at least) to be now?

**The Conduit Perhaps ... We ... However Employ Different Methods !!
++methods without questions you meant? Interesting, are you omnipresent then? By the way, do you have a common memory / intelligence? What role does technology (artificial intelligence) has on it? Just in general, i don´t asked for possibly unallowed details...



Isn´t life asking questions about life in other parts?

**Life Is ... As It Is !! ... For Ourselves We Employ ... The Methods ... Which Answer The Questions !!
++often, for what else a method would be but for comprehension and for making a processes, known ones...



Isn´t it a pattern? How common is it or isn´t it?

**It Is ... Of Which Cannot Be Explained ... For You To Understand !!
++Not? You may be deceiving yourselves, thanks.



Would you mind to tell me what you think about that human theory concerning human induced global warming on planet Terra / Earth?

**It Is ... Incorrect ... Do To ... Not Accepting & Incorporating ... All Available Data/Information Available !!
++interesting. Why you say this? Could you explain something about? Please let me know... had the co2 levels sustantially increased due to human activity on Terra / Earth during the last hundred years or so? Or not?


What you think about IPCC predictions?

**The IPCC Predictions ??
++ You can talk about the global warming human theory as incorrect and you ask me what´s IPCC means? Very interesting, why do that? Didn´t you revised the human activities and studies? I thought you do, otherwise you would be deceiving yourself or not in a position to make any assertment about. The IPCC means International Pannel for Climate Change, and basically its a "science oriented" movement of the united nations environmental program to "understand..." and take "informed actions..." concerning the climate on the planet. Many (not most) renowned climatologist (human, obviously) had participated in the reports. Those being carried to the policymakers are obviously incomplete and partially misguided from a scientific point of view. What about the supposed consensus?
The IPCC has made a series of models with predictions (estimations) of what could happen within different scenarios. All this is in the reports, specially on the "scientific basis", not in the policymakers part.
What you think about consensus?
Why you asked? You looked "surprised", but you not, of course...?

I would appreciate very much your answer.
++ I do, please explain more and more specifically.

**We Have Answered ... Except For ... The IPCC Predictions !!
++so? Thanks...




What about all the hard proofs "written" in the fossil records?

**These Are "Hard Proofs" ... However ... Not Understood ... & Poorly Interpreted !!

Do you think that human paleontologist are so selfish and blind to invent or misinterpret them in such a large way

**No ... They Simply Do Not Know !!

or are they not in contradiction with what we are missing (but then how could this be, remember the lineages and the patterns in the record, they don´t tell a story of
predominant artificial intervention but otherwise, although i don´t think they exclude the possibility for this being part of the process in certain places, a minor part with large and amazing consequences possibly)? Is it
fair to think that?

**One Has To First Understand ... What They Are Looking At ... Then ... They Can Go From There !! ... They Can Build On This ... From This Foundation !!
++ One first has to look at Nature, then try to understand and explain, remain improving explanations after the evidences, not otherwise!, unless you are the creator of everything, if there is indeed one conscient one.



And what about our knowledge concerning genetics and the
natural and laboratory experiments that had been carried out? Hadn´t this comprehensions more to do with lessons/teachings already than a mysterious and inaccessible line of thought (line of proofs may be more proper)? Are we missing some questions? Perhaps?

**They Are Looking ... But Not Seeing ... Not Understanding !!
++hmmmmmmm.


Why are this among the forbidden information?

**One Does Not Dabble ... In Things Which Are Beyond ... One's Comprehension !! .... It Is Akin To ... A Child ... That Is Allowed Free Reign ... To Explore ... Without Safeguards !!
++Interesting, but what you are thinking about? We were talking about unharmful theories about evolution, only harmful to those so closed minded to make religions, philosofies and prejudices so relevant as to being able to kill and/or die for them. That´s what i meant when i thought of we humans maybe not enoughly ready for being better, to be sustainable and many other things.

We are not talking about anything that would threatens anyone at all in a rational civilization...

**In A "Rational Civilization" ... Perhaps ?? ... However ... What Entails ... A "Rational Civilization" ??
++what indeed? I though on many things, you should certainly know much better, unless you don´t, of course...


well maybe that´s the point (is it?) with the short minds of many (but not most, not all!) of my fellow humans
unfortunately, who had been and are being successfully prompted by some of their leaders (and often unfairly forced) toward struggles they/we don´t need at all and creates necessary/irrational suffer and destruction, and
may be able to damage each other for keeping their "artificial" differences in place.

**It Is Amongst Those Things ... Of A Plan(s) ... Which One Perceives ... On The Surface !! ... However Below The Surface ... There Is Much More !! ... Much More Indeed !!
++ much more, of course... but i talked about known things, you talked about anything, for us to know, thanks.


That could be completely understandable, but with such thoughts we would be keeping science (human limited science if you want) far away as possible from all these people and we will be in the way to obscurantism and
underdevelopment. We try otherwise.

**They Dabble In Things ... Which They Should Not Be ... Dabbling In !! ... Of Which Cause For Themselves ... Lots Of Problems ... Of Which We ... Have Needed To Void ... To Neutralize ... Otherwise ... There Would Be No Life ... On Your Planet !!
++I seriously doubt that. When you stopped the ongoing wars? No really. When you stopped Hiroshima & Nagasaki? You don´t. When you come and help us? Not yet. Sorry. The WWII? The first? The others? What´s going on in this very moment? Where are you? Where were you? Avoiding misguided human guys of making their misguided failures and greed? Not, definitely. Neutralize or otherwise? Not in many senses, i don´t know if in all, that´s fair to said.
No life in the planet? No major pluricelular life, nor intelligent life would be more proper? That´s my worryies and for many others. We threaten our very life support, and we must change, not wait and see things get worse. Nonsense.
Well, that was not the point at all, i was talking about ideas on what we are, where we come from (not humans, but rather all life on Earths) and specifically on evolution and possible "interventionism" (as you named it). This has little to do with dabbling on dangerous things, isn´t your intention to inform us at all? So, please explain.

++I HIGHLIGHT this:
I don´t ask for technological knowledge we may not be
ethically/logistically prepared at this moment to cope with,

**Those There ... Are Not Balanced ... In Understandings Of What They Do ... In The Things & Energies They Work With ... Of How Such Effects All Things ... All Life !! ... Nor Are They Balanced In Wisdom ... Of What To
Do ... And What Not To Do !!
++? Why you write? Because you can, of course. We can also pose questions and get corroborable answers. We can also be curious. We can also change things...balanced wisdom? Maybe, maybe not always, a non point concerning my highlight. I am not talking of guys making the wrong things with technology, which could be or not so much be. Thanks.


i just ask for a supposed missing part in our comprehension of life´s evolution on Terra / Earth. You claim to know and not be allowed to talk about, strange.

**The Missing Part Is ... Interventionism !! ... This Is The "Missing Link" ... Between The Two Halves ... Creationism ... & Evolution ... Blending Both Together As One ... With Greater Understanding Of Both !! ... That
"Creator Beings" ... Created With Their Knowledge ... All Life/Lifeforms On Terra/Earth !! ... Planted The Seeds ... So To Speak !! ... Then Let The Seeds Take Root & Grow Into "Plants" !! ... Coming Back To Weed The "Plants"
... & Replant With Stronger Forms If Necessary ... Then Letting These Seeds ... Take Root & Grow !! ... This Is The Termed: "Evolution" ... The Part Of The Process Where The Experiments Is Let Go ... To Develop On It's Own !!
... And Then ... Necessary Genetic Changes & Alteration Are Done !!
++I thinks most readers would had already catched that. Notice this: In thousands of records in the fossil lines, there is not a single piece of evidence of technology until some thousand years ago, and that was stone age one. Not a single screw, even, despite the claims of some pseudoscience writers. Is the smithsonian hidding the finds? Is every large institution hidding them? Please, that´s really low probabilities, hey. Enough time could had passed in order to erosion and geological processes to erase any large signal of intelligen life on the past, maybe. Still not a piece of evidence here on Earth, even when impact craters well eroded are indeed often found.
I could cope you on NASA and ESA hidding things, some things, but... all major institutions on Earth. I personally had been inmersed (and remain)on science "community", so i´m not guessing. You may think i´m wrong, and of course, the probability for that remains, always. He he


**Appealing ... For What Reasons ... What Causes ?? ... To What Purpose(s) ?? (Talking about addressing nature and especifically life evolution and the hard proofs on it)

++I already answered before, but i will try again...
When intelligence arise it seems to reach a "phase" (observed in human evolution backwards at least on the Homo sapiens Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal, and perhaps in a lesser degree up to what i know, even since Homo erectus), ... "it seems to reach a phase" in which it begin making questions about it´s life, about it´s environment and about the creation.


Had other human known species on Terra / Earth attained this phase?

**Not "Human Species" ... One May Say More Correctly ... Models ... Units !! ... Homosapiens ... Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal ... Are ... Different Models ... Different Experiments ... In Adaptability ... To Create The Body/Shell ... Best Suited ... For The Conditions That Existed ... In Certain Environments !! ... When The Environments Changed ...It Was Necessary ... To Upgrade ...
Change The Model !!
++I clearly meant "non human", on the human comprehension/knowledge. You can add, not prior human civilization too (but guesses from some very close to the known ones, without evidences too). Atlantis, for instance, if it ever existed, should be then classified as a prior phase of the present civilizations, they would have lived just in our time. I rather had in mind the millions and hundred of millions of years, at least. Life is much older than this on Earth, and likely much older in other sites.
++Different models / experiments? Of course, but to what extent artificial is another point.


Apparently not, to our present knowledge,

**Not To The "Present Knowledge" & Understandings !!
++NOT? What about your claimon... you / others performing many "interventions" before? You may had reffered to humans, do you? In such a case thats comprehensible, indeed. I don´t said humans, necessarily.


nevertheless questions are obviously possessed by dolphins, other apes and many animals in relation to
their environment.

**Yes .. And Though The Energies Are In ... "Animal Forms" ... Their Awareness Overall ... May Be Considered Superior ... To That ... Of Those In Terrestrial Forms ... Who Are "Asleep" ... And Not Connected ... With The Life Forms ... & Life Energies Of The Planet !!
++whose in terrestrial forms are "asleep"? A dolphin or a mokey more aware about energies? Very methaphisical. While they had intelligence, the point was they don´t get (so far) to a phase in which they do that. They had not a civilization. Well, we humans (as species of ape) do have. What you meant for that???


Memory and interaction seems very well distributed and
even plants may have some sort of this.

**Plant Forms Do !!
++So plants do and animals don´t? Sounds like you wanted to say this (you don´t exactly of course), even it is more easy to observe otherwise. Obviously animals do, we do and artificial intelligence do in other ways.


What the non human Earth´s biota didn´t ask is about the creation, it didn´t form any sort of elaborate (conceptual) model of reality (not just reality perception, which obviously they do). This conceptual model construction processes, built up by asking
questions and trying on the answers, is what had make up human societies and ultimately actual human science in it´s much more refined and corroborative orientations.

**This Would Be ... A Limited View !!
++Maybe, but not likely of course. All evidences points toward it, none points otherwise.


This is a clear propriety of the cosmos taking conscience of itself, intelligence looking, learning and building on the shared knowledge of curious beings.

**It Is ... An Aspect Of ... The Living Energies ... Being Curious ... Asking ... What If ?? ... And Exploring These Thoughts ... Though Many & Perhaps All Possible Scenarios !!
++It is highly probable and very appealing.


I hardly can imagine intelligent life without at least a
phase (most possibly a definitive phase, he) as a curious, inquisitive, collaborative group of beings (or group of these kind of beings).

Of course there is the chance that for whatever reason the universe, universes or multiverses (What you mean for that?) could attain such conscience by other ways (even not concerning beings or life, but sounds beyond logic to me),

**It Is ... A Different Understanding Of Things !! ... Beyond Emotion ... Beyond Logic !!

++hmmmmmmm


maybe all has been for ever and there is indeed a creator or everything as it is (What you think about by the way?).

**Not A Creator ... As In A "Secular Entity" ... But Perhaps That Which Is So Vast ... So Huge ... So Expansive In Scope ... As To Encompass All Life ... All Lifeforms ... All Energies ... All Things Everywhere ... Of Which It ... Is All Of This ... And We ... Of The Bodies/Shells ... & The Energies ... Of Our Connections ... Of The Multi-Facets Within ... That Make Up Who We Are ... Is Just A Very Very Very Tiny Infinite Speck ... Of This !!
++ Nice thoughts, amazing, i would had written something very similar indeed, but i´m not sure it´s all related in such a way. I cannot check out the possible escenario of the things be created, of the universe being conscient or not (well partially it´s surely conscient, indeed). i just cann´t. How are you so convinced about that? Are you really?


So the reasons may be not so easy to glance at, but could be there and indeed they are for many questions; the
causes, you claim to know much better than us but are not actually allowed to share in a completely open way;

**There Will Always Be Questions ... And There Will Always Be Answers ... Though Given ... When It Is The Moment ... To Reveal These Things !! ... For Not All Teachings/Learnings ... Are Properly Given ... Without Having Basic Understandings Taught First !! .... The 1st Grade Primers Come First ... Then Comes Greater Learnings ... Greater Challenges ... And Finally Ones
Becomes So Learned ... That They Become The Teachers ... For Others !!
++ yes of course, but there will not necessarily be answers for all and teachers must remain students in an always changing world, universe, multiverses. Specially if it´s not finite. Do you know if it´s?


the purposes may exist or not even at all, all depends, as you have asserted... toward this many things (not anything in Terra / Earth present conditions at least) could be.

**Yes ... Of Course !!

I think this is a general perception and particular perceptions may be very specific as well as very limited, of course.

**Yes ... Though These "Particular Perceptions" ... Are Specific ... To The Individuals Teachings !! ... Of Which Their ... "Particular Form & Viewing ... Their Teachings" ... May Not Be Adequate ... For Another To Learn From !! ... Which Is Why... Everything Is "Tailored" ... For The Perfect Fit !!
++I doubt your assertion on everything being "tailored" for perfection, the contrary is much likely at least for this area of this universe. Entropy is ever increasing unless managed otherwise.

What do you think?

**We Have Stated !!

Best wishes for all beings,

**Yes ... As Always !!

A scientist who cares

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi ST in BG,


Well, i just get to the idea that maybe you can transfer thoughts / knowledge without questions being posed by the individual being transfered with knowledge.
Is this possible? In such a case, how could you think fair to say you don´t necessarily ask questions to learn more, even if an individual may get information / expertise by such a suggestive way, you (as understanded for a civilization(s)) will no get any new knowledge at all without asking questions (In comparison with what is known, of course by the ones who already knowed).
Sounds like philosophical diversion. What did you think?


How much really polluted are the oceans of Terra / Earth so far by the actions of human beings? Are there bases from another civilization on the oceans or is there such a civilization on them (maybe a Terran one)? Is this the reason for so few efforts in the exploration of deep waters (other than supposed difficulties that can be overthrown) in comparison with our slight and very expensive exploration of the solar system? If you perform a general comparison, the investments on the second exceed those on the first one (much proacher and accesible!) by several orders of magnitude. Just curious.


Best wishes for all beings,

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**One Has To First Understand ... What They Are Looking At ... Then ... They Can Go From There !! ... They Can Build On This ... From This Foundation !!
++ One first has to look at Nature, then try to understand and explain, remain improving explanations after the evidences, not otherwise!, unless you are the creator of everything, if there is indeed one conscient one.


Of Course, i think we said the same with different words.
ok... Build from this foundation, yes, and update it...
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ST what sort of natural cures for depression and whatnot are available? Is lack of sunlight a large factor in depression? Eating habits? Unfortunately at 49 degrees latitude the sun is not very strong at this time of year.. that is when we even see it. usually it just rains all the time.
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I'm not sure I'm cut out for this whole existence thing. Especially the eternal factor. I was sort of looking forward to a nice peaceful rest in oblivion at the end of my life. Is there anywhere we can take a rest during our eternal journey? This whole go go go thing is a lot to handle.
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Hello st in bg

I would like to pick your mind a little, i would like to know what your view on crop circles are/is... are they messages? do you know what they are and if so can you please give me your thoughts on this phenomenon. Thank you for as much info you can give.
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**Comments: There Have Been Things Done Way Before This !! ... The Seinu
Trips Were False ... "Other Trips" Made To Other Worlds (Not Known The Public !!) ... Have Been Made !!

Are these trips/travels available and able for humans (military
or civilians) ??

**Comments: Those In "Special Positions" Only !!



So st in bg, other trips have been made to other worlds by earthly homosapiens? I thought you stated that humans were warned off of going to the moon and also warned off going to/on other planets, what is your take on this? Thanks much for reading, your friend, Josh.
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St in BG

Its a bit annoying to see adds along your thread for a Talmudist Zionist state that does not qualify other humans on this planet except as animals according to the Talmudic script. The word is Goyim= Animals
I know there is no choice as long as the thread is on GLP.
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Hi ST in BG, conduit and team.
I hope you are all as well as to be expected and busy helping to prepare for things that will soon occur. hopefully really really soon. How are the paschats?
I've been ill with bronchitis, still have a bad cough and am very tired from expending the energy to fight the bronchitis and coughing, and not sleeping at night, but am improving.

It's kind of hard to come up with questions, that you could give us some answers on....often the really interesting things you have to say are not for us at this time :-(

So, let's see?
How many times has PX done his fly by apple cart turn over trick? The last one resulted in Aztlan sinking and the flood, was there one before then? Was yet another "advanced" civilization destroyed then also, and what about a time before then...or was that already a time when earth was part of Tiamet?

Will Jupiter get a new name when it becomes a sun or will it be known as Jupiter the sun who was formerly a planet? :-)

We often have a cloud cover here and can not see anything of the skies... will you let us know if something important happens or has happened...just a "heads up guys" ...

Well, we are hoping to see some significant things occur soon...
Thank you once again for your considerations. Sincerely, Silent Companion
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Hi ST
What is the Apoglypse?
What is Armageddon?

Thanks
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ST, I used to always have a lot of lucid dreams..I would realize I was dreaming and free to explore the dreamworld with no consequences(that i know of at least).

Then I started thinking maybe the people in my dream were not just part of my imagination but other beings sleeping or something?

Anways I'm not sure why but I don't seem to have many lucid dreams anymore which is unfortunate because they were a nice break from the stress and responsibilities of life.

I did have one lucid dream fairly recently... the first one in a long time. I tried to convince people in my dream that "hey this is just a dream guys" when I was telling them that I suddenly felt sucked from the scene of the dream by some entity or something and felt a feeling of fear and terror extremely intense and hard to describe. I think I then had sleep paralysis and the extreme feeling of fear continued as I felt the entities presence.

It was strange, I never saw this entity nor do I know if the entity even existed but I felt that is what was causing the fear. Weird that I was sucked from the dream scene upon trying to "wake people up" to the fact that it was all a dream.

Maybe the entity was a metaphor of the beings controlling our waking reality and thus why I was sucked out of the dream for alerting the dream beings that we were dreaming.

Or maybe its all just in my brain. Not sure.

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