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Greetings: hi friend: User ID: 325714

so nibiru is going to wipe us all out this year?

**It's Possible !!

Oh, where did the conduit travel on Saturday?

**Lets See ... He Topped Off The Flea Supply ... Saw Freddie Kruger ... Saw Will .. Who Has Been Very Bad !! ... Said Hello To A Guinea Pig ... And Thought About Grounds ... Along With Taking In ... The Wet Look ... Which Was Quite Popular ... In The Later Afternoon !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Farewell For Now !!

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--Thanks for answering my questions and dealing with my outburts of frustration. I do appreciate it very much even if sometimes it seems not. I added more comments based on your responses below.


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After reading the link to his other thread that Scientist who cares posted, I believe him to not be a debunker but a genuine person who wishes to help yet is still very much caught up in our current paradigm as far as beliefs in evolution and the natural world go.

**Of The "Attitude" Presented ... They Come Off As A Debunker !! ... Irregardless Of Their Being Caught Up ... In The Belief Systems On Terra/Earth ... Of Your Time !!

I think this is still a much better condition of mind to be in than those who are also caught in our current paradigm but have the attitude that "the earth is mine for the taking, and is here to be used to get whatever I want".

**Both Ways Are Incorrect !!




-- Well yes it may be incorrect,but is it not better that he have this belief that we need to live with nature rather than subdue it, even if he does not yet believe in Nibiru? Even though longterm all the life on earth will be gone anyways from the passage, is it not better to at least attempt to change things a bit so a few less beings can die at the hands of humans while we await Nibiru? It seems like a better way than those that still believe in using nature for our own gain.






Purposely deflecting people's attention away from Nibiru is not such a noble thing though.

**It Is ... The Way Of A Debunker !! ... And Of Those Having ... These Agendas ... In Which To Do So !!


--- Well yes he may have an agena, or may legitimately believe that Nibiru is not real and thus believe in it is drawing people away from working to change our ways and clean up the earth.




Not only that, those of us without access to prophetic dreams/visions(also something we've been encouraged to believe are not real) have no way of verifying that any of this is true anyways.

**You Have Inner Abilities ... To Understand ... To Be Able To Connect To These Things ... If You Choose To Do So !!

--- I get the idea this ability may be there, but as to how to choose to access it, this is the difficult part. I don't know where/how to start or attempt to do such things.Meditation maybe? If I could quiet my mind and reduce my anxiety this may be an option.







combined with mental illness makes for unorganized posts.

**What Is ... "Mental Illness" ?? ... We Do Not Have Such Afflictions !! ... Or Disease For That Matter !!


-Well, mental illness can be a bit of a subjective term we humans love to throw around. For me though its constant bombardment of obsessive thoughts/compulsions that bring my anxiety levels way up and cause a state of high stress that I exist in most of the time here on earth.





Unfortunately the Illinois quake looks to be shaping up to be another isolated event. Back to waiting and wondering if this indeed is all real or we're just fooling ourselves.

**There Is ... No Such Thing ... As An "Isolated Event" ... As All Things Connect !! ... Though ... You May Not Be Aware ... May Not Be Seeing ... These Connections !!


-- All things are connected as you said, so I should not have used the word isolated. What I meant was I expected/was hoping for clearly visible connections to those of us that are having a hard time tapping in/seeing more subtle connections.


Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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It almost feels necessary for my very survival that I believe in Nibiru.

**For Your Understanding ... Of What Is Happening ... This Is Necessary !!


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Yes, for my understanding. I know I will not survive the passages. What I mean is it feels necessary that I believe in Nibiru to keep me alive NOW. If I did not have such a belief and a good family, I think the monotony and sadness/insanity of this capitalistic/material based society that we've set up here on earth would cause me to "do myself in".
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Hi dear ST in BG, Conduit, team and Paschats,
I hope you are all well, and recovering from muscle soreness.
I feel badly for the sun (Sol). For one who has given so much life and brightness of light, to die and just become a cold dead rock floating in space seems a very sad thing. Isn't there a way he could get a more amiable retirement?
Thank you for your considerations.
Sincerely, Silent Companion
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tell me of the Miria Amour

no response?
is Nibiru the city of god or is it a celestial body as a
planet, and do you know what the Miria Amour has to do with
these events
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tell me of the Miria Amour

no response?
is Nibiru the city of god or is it a celestial body as a
planet, and do you know what the Miria Amour has to do with
these events
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H . I . S .
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Dear AC no. 420303,
Patience is the key :-) (I've been working on it too).
ST in BG drops by to answer questions..as he can.
Sometimes it's each day, sometimes we must wait a bit longer...but he will answer if he is allowed..to the extent he is allowed...
and in the meanwhile...
we can grow beans ;-) (an inside joke)...
I am working on a garden...keeping busy and patient, as well as practical.
Silent Companion
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For those who are getting the Delores Cannon Books -

I find that certain sources are selling out of her latest releases - especially the "Convoluted Universe" Series - and any used copies that can be found online are almost as much as the new - and even more with separate shipping...

Which is fantastic because that means that Information that has been "Behind the Veil" is now flooding into the Masses...

So - I have found one source - if anyone is interested in her earlier Trilolgy of Nastrodamus - (there are things to be gleened from there as well) - that sells the Trilogy - new - for only $12 (normally $45.85 retail) plus $3.(U.S.) shipping. If anyone is interested - ask and I shall give the Link....

If anyone else has similar information - please do share...

Truth2
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ST in BG,

Is the New Madrid (Big One) going to occur on May 10th?

[link to www.rense.com]

TIA
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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 352485

--Thanks for answering my questions and dealing with my outburst of frustration. I do appreciate it very much even if sometimes it seems not.

**You Are Welcome !!

I added more comments based on your responses below.

**Oh OH !! (Oh Ok !!)
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**Both Ways Are Incorrect !!

-- Well yes it may be incorrect,but is it not better that he have this belief that we need to live with nature rather than subdue it, even if he does not yet believe in Nibiru?

**Yes ... However It Is Far Too Late !!

Even though long-term all the life on earth will be gone anyways from the passage, is it not better to at least
attempt to change things a bit so a few less beings can die at the hands of humans while we await Nibiru?

**When One Has The Ability To Change ... Make A Difference !! ... Most Do Not !!

It seems like a better way than those that still believe in using nature for our own gain.

**It Is ... But Again ... Way To Late !! ... It Is Already Past ... The Point Of No Return !!

--- Well yes he may have an agenda,

**There Is An "Agenda" Present !! ... To Cause Disruption Here !!

or may legitimately believe that Nibiru is not real and thus believe in it is drawing people away from working to change our ways and clean up the earth.

**Perhaps !! ... Though Is That Not ... An "Agenda" Also ?? ... A Cause ?? ... That Is ... Too Little ... Too Late !!

--- I get the idea this ability may be there, but as to how to choose to access it, this is the difficult part.

**Simply Decide !!

I don't know where/how to start or attempt to do such things.Meditation maybe?

**If This Is The Avenue Which Helps !! ... For The Conduit ... It Is Not !!

If I could quiet my mind and reduce my anxiety this may be an option.

**Music ... Soothing Music ... Is A Great Healer !! ... And Was Used In Ancient Aztlan "Atlantis" ... To Heal !! ... For The Conduit ... Since One Of His "Aspects" ... Is Of Scott Joplin ... Then His Music ... Of Rags/Ragtime ... Dixieland ... This Style Of Music ... Such As ... Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass ... (Oh Which Many Of The Players He Knew Of Other Musical Lifetimes !!) ... This Heals ... Relaxes ... And Flows !!

-Well, mental illness can be a bit of a subjective term we
humans love to throw around.

**It Is ... Very Subjective !!

For me though its constant bombardment of obsessive thoughts/compulsions that bring my anxiety levels way up and cause a state of high stress that I exist in most of the time here on earth.

**Then ... You Need To Unwind ... Relax !! ... Music May Be The Key !! .... Such Things Are Caused By A Mind ... Racing Too Fast !! ... Mental Overtaxing ... Which Leads To Mental Fatigue !! ... The Octave Is High ... The Processing Is High ... So One Needs ... Those Things Which Flow & Function On These Levels !!

-- All things are connected as you said, so I should not have used the word isolated.

**This Is So !! ... All Things Are Connected !!

What I meant was I expected/was hoping for clearly
visible connections to those of us that are having a hard time tapping in/seeing more subtle connections.

**This Will Become Evident ... Though When It Does Manifest ... Of Such Degrees ... Then The Only Thing Considered ... Would Be Survival !!

**For Your Understanding ... Of What Is Happening ... This Is Necessary !!

Yes, for my understanding. I know I will not survive the
passages.

**It Depends On Choice(s) Made !!

What I mean is it feels necessary that I believe in Nibiru to keep me alive NOW.

**Hmmm !!

If I did not have such a belief and a good family, I think the monotony and sadness/insanity of this capitalistic/material based society that we've set up here on earth would cause me to "do myself in".

**Maybe ?? ... Maybe Not ???

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

Hi dear ST in BG, Conduit, team and Paschats,

I hope you are all well, and recovering from muscle soreness.

**Yes !! ... Put The Mussels (Muscles) Back In This Morning !! .... The Clams & Oysters Were Getting Lonely !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I feel badly for the sun (Sol). For one who has given so much life and brightness of light, to die and just become a cold dead rock floating in space seems a very sad thing.

**Why Should You Feel Sad ?? ... It Will Not Become ... A Cold Dead Rock ... Floating In Space !!

Isn't there a way he could get a more amiable retirement?

**It Is Evolving ... Changing ... Of This ... It Is Being Given ... A Most Amiable Retirement ... Of Which It Will Again ... Bring New Life !!

Thank you for your considerations.

**You Are Welcome !! ... So Long As I Get ... "Your Considerations" Back !! ... Otherwise There Will Be ... A "Considerable Gap" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Sincerely, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings: the unamed: User ID: 420303

tell me of the Miria Amour

**It Is Of ... Disinformation !! ... Partial Truths ... Which Have Been Changed/Altered ... And Added To !! ... **See Under: Andromedians ...

[link to www.geocities.com]

Quoting This Section ...

"Now, there is a very great ship, great ship in your terms. It's called the Mother Ship. A most appropriate term. It does exist. It slides by night invisible because it's exterior has been created to be invisible
simply by the metal that it is made out of. It looks black. But, when it passes in front of the moon, it blocks out the entire eastern portion of the sky at night.

"That ship houses Gods, the great ones, my people. Now, if it was to light up, it would be the sun illuminated 10,000 times and you would not be able to look upon it with these eyes of yours. And, it's here in your stratosphere. It has been over this very place that we are sitting in. It
has moved quietly, stealthily. Your government is aware of its presence. It is ominous to them.

"This ship has warriors that would defy your imagination and it has Gods that would define the term beauty. And, it is of legend that it has a sting like a scorpion from above. That, in a moment, it can blast a continent to the bottom of the sea. In a moment, with one of its lights, it
would rotate this continent and send it spinning in orbit. In a moment, it would take this world of yours and turn it upside down. In a moment. Now, do you really, seriously think your aircraft, bombers, ha, ha, ha.
Seriously, do you think that? It was that ship that blasted Sodom and Gomorrah off the face of the Earth. In one blast. And, it didn't take anything to do that. And yet, this great guardian is my people. Those are the Gods...

"This great ship is called Miria Amour, Miria Amour. It means the silver light. That's what it means in your terms, if you wish to define it. And, some of you are going to see it. It's already arranged. I want you to
look upon power and I want you to be in awe, because I want you to know that you are connected with it. And, if you can do that, that will do a lot to aspire you on in consciousness. So be it.

"Now, that ship is here partly because of the disease of this planet. It is here because of the collapse of consciousness of civilization on this planet. It is here also because of the changes that are going to occur on
this planet. And, it is here also because of another force that is engaged here on this planet. That ship has also aspired, in the past, other profits. It has aspired to do wonderful things, to preserve seeds of people. It's truth and it's words have been misused, misconstrued, and
taken to use by powerful men to enslave people. And, it's been allowed. But, the ship is back for truth and I'm its profit. So be it."

is Nibiru the city of god

**There Is No ... And Never Was ... A "God" !! ... & This Is Not ... A City !!

or is it a celestial body as a planet,

**It Is Both A Planet ... And A Ship ... Depending Upon ... One's Perspectives !!

and do you know what the Miria Amour has to do with these events

**Nothing !! ... As It Does Not Exist !! ... A Fictional Creation !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Hello ST..

Something that has puzzled me.
When I look at the sun... It is brighter than usual. And it seems to have more rays emanating from it. Like a cross. North , South, East, West. Almost like it has wings.. or ears. But anyway. I see one object ( the sun).. sometimes it looks as if there is something else but is so bright I cannot keep looking. But when I turn away or close my eyes.. The after image on my retina is of two orbs. The sun the larger and another , smaller to the right ( around maybe 5 oclock). Is there something there I cannot see, but it still leaves an after image on the retina? Is strange why there are always two orbs in the after image. Can you please explain this?

Hope you are not still sore,.

((hugs))

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Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

**In Response To: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 420303 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Dear AC no. 420303,

Patience is the key :-)

**Indeed It Is !!

(I've been working on it too).

**We Constantly Work On Patience & Patients !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

ST in BG drops by to answer questions..as he can.

**Yes We Do !!

Sometimes it's each day, sometimes we must wait a bit
longer...but he will answer if he is allowed..to the extent he is allowed...

**Very True !!

and in the meanwhile...

we can grow beans ;-) (an inside joke)...

**Plant The Magickal Beans ... & Climb The Beanstalk !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

I am working on a garden...keeping busy and patient, as well as practical.

**But Of Course !!

Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: Truth2: User ID: 373023

For those who are getting the Delores Cannon Books -

I find that certain sources are selling out of her latest
releases - especially the "Convoluted Universe" Series - and any used copies that can be found online are almost as much as the new - and even more with separate shipping...

Which is fantastic because that means that Information that has been "Behind the Veil" is now flooding into the Masses...

So - I have found one source - if anyone is interested in her earlier Trilogy of Nostradamus - (there are things to be gleaned from there as well) - that sells the Trilogy - new - for only $12 (normally $45.85 retail) plus $3.(U.S.) shipping. If anyone is interested - ask and I shall
give the Link....

If anyone else has similar information - please do share...

Truth2

**Thank You Most Kindly ... For This Information My Friend !!

Farewell For Now !!

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ST in BG,

[link to www.rense.com]

**The Article Is About ... The California Earthquake ... Coming May 10th ... And Using The Quatrain(s) Of Michel de Nostradame ("Nostradamus") ... To Make Prediction On This !!

**Of Attempting To Interpret & Predict Such Events ... It Would Be Wiser ... To Go Direct To The Source ... Ask This
Person ... Of His Energies Directly !!

Is the New Madrid (Big One) going to occur on May 10th?

**The Conduit Does Not Know !! ... However ... He Does Know Of One ... Who May Help With Knowing !! ... His Brother (Tribal & Blood Brother/Half Brother) ... From An Aspect ... From That Lifetime ... Tecumseh/Tecumsee
... The Chief/Leader Of The Shawano/Shawnee ... The One Who Predicted ... Who Knew Of The Last Upheaval(s) ... He May Be Permitted To Speak On This !!

TIA

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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After reading the link to his other thread that Scientist who cares posted, I believe him to not be a debunker but a genuine person who wishes to help yet is still very much caught up in our current paradigm as far as beliefs in evolution and the natural world go.

**Of The "Attitude" Presented ... They Come Off As A Debunker !! ... Irregardless Of Their Being Caught Up ... In The Belief Systems On Terra/Earth ... Of Your Time !!

I think this is still a much better condition of mind to be in than those who are also caught in our current paradigm but have the attitude that "the earth is mine for the taking, and is here to be used to get whatever I want".

**Both Ways Are Incorrect !!

This attitude is highly prevalent in much of the earth, especially westernized societies. At least S. who C. recognizes there is massive problems with this attitude and
wishes to change it for the betterment of all beings on earth.

**Yes ... However ... S. who C. Does Not Have That Ability ... And Does Not Recognize ... Of The Upheavals & The Changes To Come ... Of Which These "Massive Problems" Will Be ... The Very Very Least ... Of The Difficulties That One Will Need To Face !!

So i think overall he is a caring individual with very good
intentions but is still missing the larger picture.

**They Are Missing ... Lots Of Pieces To The Puzzle ... To Make Up ... The Picture ... Of Which For Them ... Is Not In Focus !!

The shackles t TPTB have placed on us have been tightened far too much for us to change things enough to fix what we've done to the earth at this point.

**It Is ... Out Of Your Hands !! ... And Involving "Others" ... At This Point !!

We are waking up far too late for that.

**Far Too Late !!

Any attempts to institute cleaner technology for the benefit of all would probably be most instantly squelched.

**This Is Based On ... "Non Change" !! ... It Will Not Matter !!

I can imagine that the inventors of such technologies would receive threats against themselves and their families lives by TPTB so as to maintain the status quo.

**Will Not Matter !!

So as I see it, the only way we're breaking out of this paradigm is for Nibiru to come and drastically change the beings of earths ideas of what is possible in this existence.

**It Will Happen !!

Only such a paradigm shattering event can break us loose of the extremely tight shackles that have been placed on
us by TPTB.

**Well ... There Are "Other Things" ... That Would ... Be "Convincing" !!

Humanity has just been dumbed down way way too much and for way too long to be able to fix this.

** Humanity/Humankind ... Has Been "Out Of The Loop" ... For A Long Long While !! ... As These Things ... These Problems ... Did Not Happen Overnight
!!

Even if we had a mass awakening I think TPTB's system is so securely in place that there is little we could do about
changing the system. Too late for that. Time to change the paradigm, and the only hope of doing that now is Nibiru.

**It Is Far Too Late !! ... And "Time" To Prepare ... For The Cleansing !!

That being said, S. who C.'s attempts to encourage humanity to think of better ways of living with nature rather than subduing it certainly is a noble thing to do.

**It Is Noble ... If You Are Placing All Your Bets ... On "Humanity" & "Nature" Remaining As It Is !! ... It Will Not You Know !! ... The Whole Planet Will Be Upheaved & Rearranged !! ... The Whole Surface Will Be Cleansed !!

Purposely deflecting people's attention away from Nibiru is not such a noble thing though.

**It Is ... The Way Of A Debunker !! ... And Of Those Having ... These Agendas ... In Which To Do So !!

Can anyone really blame him though?

**Yes ... We Can !!

We've been taught since birth that such ideas as Nibiru are nothing more than far fetched Science fiction and laughable to believe that any such thing could exist in reality.

**One Was Also Taught ... To Think ... "Outside The Box" !! ... But It Has Been Easier To Accept ... The Programming ... Which Has Been "Spoon Fed" ... Of "Terrestrial Authority Figures" ... Telling One(s) ... What To Believe Or Not Believe !!

Not only that, those of us without access to prophetic dreams/visions(also something we've been encouraged to believe are not real) have no way of verifying that any of this is true anyways.

**You Have Inner Abilities ... To Understand ... To Be Able To Connect To These Things ... If You Choose To Do So !!

We can't check the information on the internet, as we're being told that is all manipulated anyways.

**There Is Much .. That Is Controlled & Manipulated !! ... One Has To Be Able To ... Sort Through The Information ... To Find What Is Accurate & Factual ... Irregardless Of The Source(s) !!

We're told the current weather patterns/earthquakes are just normal aberrations/cycles and nothing to worry about.

**Then You Chosen To Believe In A Lie !!

I personally choose to believe for the most part.

**You Would Be Wise ... To Do So !!

It almost feels necessary for my very survival that I believe in Nibiru.

**For Your Understanding ... Of What Is Happening ... This Is Necessary !!

If Nibiru is not real

**Rest Assured ... It Is Quite Real !!

and our current paradigm is correct,

**Which It Is Not !!

then I feel existence is a sad and constricted state that I no longer think I can deal with.

**There Are Those ... Who Wish & Desire To Control ... To Manipulate !! ... Though Existence Of Itself ... Has No Controllers ... It Acts Of It's Own Accord ... It's Own Ways !! ... Which Are Not Understood ... By Those On
Terra/Earth !!

Until the time of the massive changes come I'm sure I will still have partial doubts,

**This Is To Be Expected !!

but I continue to hope it's all true and will eagerly await undeniable signs of Nibiru's incoming passage.

**You Will Have ... Such Signs !! ... And These Will Become Evident !!

Sorry this was a bit all over the place.

**It Was Coherent !!

Lack of sleep and too much work

**Yes ... We Understand !!

combined with mental illness makes for unorganized posts.

**What Is ... "Mental Illness" ?? ... We Do Not Have Such Afflictions !! ... Or Disease For That Matter !!

Unfortunately the Illinois quake looks to be shaping up to be another isolated event. Back to waiting and wondering if this indeed is all real or we're just fooling ourselves.

**There Is ... No Such Thing ... As An "Isolated Event" ... As All Things Connect !! ... Though ... You May Not Be Aware ... May Not Be Seeing ... These Connections !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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For he seems to be more comprehensive and wise than ST, by the way... ST, you are so dissapointing. Your message is one of "fear" and "disinformation", a very one sided one. I´m sure you cann´t "sincerely" sustain i came here to attack your points or debunk anything, i´m for comprehension, understandings, not "beliefs"... are you???

Why i still "type" here? Is it a waste of time? Well, no, sharing was never bad and a better world would not come by art of magic. It is never too late for anything, "points of no return" and that kind of "human theories" are unlikely to be "supported" by an advanced (honest) civilization, and would surely not be supported for quite undocumented areas of human sciences. Many of us (human scientist) know there is a lot of junks going on with very "well" recognized "knowledges".

May we become wiser,
best hopes for a better world,

A scientist who cares
hf
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--- I get the idea this ability may be there, but as to how to choose to access it, this is the difficult part.

**Simply Decide !!

I don't know where/how to start or attempt to do such things.Meditation maybe?

**If This Is The Avenue Which Helps !! ... For The Conduit ... It Is Not !!

If I could quiet my mind and reduce my anxiety this may be an option.

**Music ... Soothing Music ... Is A Great Healer !! ... And Was Used In Ancient Aztlan "Atlantis" ... To Heal !! ... For The Conduit ... Since One Of His "Aspects" ... Is Of Scott Joplin ... Then His Music ... Of Rags/Ragtime ... Dixieland ... This Style Of Music ... Such As ... Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass ... (Oh Which Many Of The Players He Knew Of Other Musical Lifetimes !!) ... This Heals ... Relaxes ... And Flows !!

-Well, mental illness can be a bit of a subjective term we
humans love to throw around.

**It Is ... Very Subjective !!

For me though its constant bombardment of obsessive thoughts/compulsions that bring my anxiety levels way up and cause a state of high stress that I exist in most of the time here on earth.

**Then ... You Need To Unwind ... Relax !! ... Music May Be The Key !! .... Such Things Are Caused By A Mind ... Racing Too Fast !! ... Mental Overtaxing ... Which Leads To Mental Fatigue !! ... The Octave Is High ... The Processing Is High ... So One Needs ... Those Things Which Flow & Function On These Levels !!


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Thanks, I will try the music idea. My Dad has an 8 CD collection of classic composers such as Mozart, Bach and Beethoven among others. I've never explored this avenue as a way of healing or dealing with my disorder, but I'm more than willing to give it a try.
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Hello ST..

Something that has puzzled me.

When I look at the sun... It is brighter than usual.

**Oh Yes !! ... The Conduit Looked Out The Morning Early ... And It Was Brilliant !! ... Too Bright To Look At ... Even For A Moment !!

**Usually He Can Look At This ... For Some Few Moments ... But This Was Not So ... For That Morning !!

And it seems to have more rays emanating from it. Like a cross. North , South, East, West. Almost like it has wings.. or ears.

**Which Just Happens To Be ... What Nibiru Will Appear Like !!

But anyway. I see one object (the sun).. sometimes it looks as if there is something else but is so bright I cannot keep looking.

**Yes ... And Now ... It Is Even Difficult For The Conduit To Look At !!

But when I turn away or close my eyes.. The after image on my retina is of two orbs.

**Yes ... As There Are ... Two Objects Present !!

The sun the larger and another , smaller to the right ( around maybe 5 o'clock).

**Yes Indeed !!

Is there something there I cannot see, but it still leaves an after image on the retina?

**Yes !! ... Another Object You Cannot See ... Do To The Brightness !!

Is strange why there are always two orbs in the after image.

**Not Too Strange !! ... As There Are ... 2 Objects Present !!

Can you please explain this?

**The Sun/Star ... "Sol" Is Present ... Also Another Object/Sphere !!

Hope you are not still sore,.

**Thank You !! ... Actually A Lot Better !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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I noticed you replied to Upliftedlala that linear time is leaving so thats why it seems there is not enough time in the day anymore. Even though our perception of it is leaving, time is proceeding as normal though, as you said to me. So how come we can't get as much done in a day anymore? Shouldn't we be able to get the same amount done we just perceive that it all happens faster?
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The sun appears to be spiraling. That may sound strange, I know. It looked like different colors spiraling around the outer edge of the sun.
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After reading the link to his other thread that Scientist who cares posted, I believe him to not be a debunker but a genuine person who wishes to help yet is still very much caught up in our current paradigm as far as beliefs in evolution and the natural world go.

**Of The "Attitude" Presented ... They Come Off As A Debunker !! ... Irregardless Of Their Being Caught Up ... In The Belief Systems On Terra/Earth ... Of Your Time !!
+ "The scientists come as debunkers?"... please! ha he
+ you rather mean... "me" a scientist... neither, wrong too.

I think this is still a much better condition of mind to be in than those who are also caught in our current paradigm but have the attitude that "the earth is mine for the taking, and is here to be used to get whatever I want".
+ I agree, thank you. All is for share and as we are so "powerful" we most get a much larger "responsability"
toward what goes on, specially what we risk or modify in a noticeable way through our technological means.

**Both Ways Are Incorrect !!
+ They are not "incorrect", they are rather "incomplete"... incomplete comprehensions that can be improved... and not just "two", there can be a miriad of possibilities and combinations... of course, regarding our current "paradigms", they were not so worthfull and could not work well for a world with so much technology and human intervention on the natural systems, that´s why we must look for alternatives. We already have some alternatives and even the powerfull are starting to work on them. Still, most of them, and most of the processes, remains under the intertia/forces of "Godzilla" he hehe, being this the monster we collectively created, the system. Logic?

This attitude is highly prevalent in much of the earth, especially westernized societies. At least S. who C. recognizes there is massive problems with this attitude and
wishes to change it for the betterment of all beings on earth.
+ There are and yes many of us wish to look for alternatives, as well as see those already in existance... get into our socioeconomic systems as reasonable as possible

**Yes ... However ... S. who C. Does Not Have That Ability ... And Does Not Recognize ... Of The Upheavals & The Changes To Come ... Of Which These "Massive Problems" Will Be ... The Very Very Least ... Of The Difficulties That One Will Need To Face !!
+ Oh! I hadn´t! And who has it? What "ability"? Is it that for recognizing as given (believe) on Nibiru and that kind of things from which there is no information at all? WAW, i think i may be loosing myself when worrying about the ecosystem destruction, depauperation, and the failure danger all through the productive chains that support our societies... oh no, that doesn´t had happened before! No human society has ever failed! (No really at the actual level, at Earth, as far as we knew. beyond the sarcasm)
Is it that i "fail" to recognize the very real, observable and testable dangers? Are my fellow scientist all wrong? Well, many could be in many senses, but be careful... this is the path towards taking responsability, which we most, and we are failing to as a civilization in a large degree.

So i think overall he is a caring individual with very good
intentions but is still missing the larger picture.
+ Thanks, of course, best wishes and don´t loose hopes. For being missing the larger picture... maybe a large part of it, that part you cann´t even get any information about, surely... and i do think that lies will ultimately damage all our efforts, we need truths, but you work in what you can and not just feel confortable "believing" the revelations of any source as given (without proofs).

**They Are Missing ... Lots Of Pieces To The Puzzle ... To Make Up ... The Picture ... Of Which For Them ... Is Not In Focus !!
+ Not in focus? It´s possible, as in most cases science specialization has brought human scientist away from the wholistic comprehensions, and even multidisciplinary works are grant no such comprehension, but create the possibility of advancing on them. Nevertheless, we are obviously not "missing lots of pieces of the puzzle", but from certain puzzles, perhaps... you cann´t just generalize.

The shackles t TPTB have placed on us have been tightened far too much for us to change things enough to fix what we've done to the earth at this point.
+ I don´t think so, we are all together in this "ship"... and some things are being done... there is almost no "sinister maneauvers" (no sane one, for sure!), just the results of the collective human failures... and some of the failures are very up among the "principles" of the actual paradigm... specially "greed", exhacerbated materialism, consumerism, and lack of comprehension (taking distance from reality, and approaching more and more to an "alternative reality", which is a false one and just "exist" in our minds/perceptions, which is not discernable from other collective stupidity well distributed among us).

**It Is ... Out Of Your Hands !! ... And Involving "Others" ... At This Point !!
+ Involving others, of course, but not out of your hands.

We are waking up far too late for that.
**Far Too Late !!
+ It´s never "too late", it´s late nevertheless. For more time we remain failing our possibilities would certainly decrease, hopefully we are having very promising advances.

Any attempts to institute cleaner technology for the benefit of all would probably be most instantly squelched.
+ Look at Europe, France and Germany plan to get almost all their electrical energy (in the wires) from the wind, and they are currently very advanced in their plans. About half of their electricity is already powered by eolic plants. They are not the only ones, UK, some states in the USA, Canada, some asian countries... and to a lesser extent, some third world countries, are all making advancements. This is just an example you could easily research much more, beyond the negative campaigns of the intertias/forces within the "Godzilla". Things are being done, think also on the solar water heaters. I had one above my roof since a year ago and it´s working amazingly... we use about 60% less gas... and this could improve and get cheaper. There are cheaps solar fotovoltaic cells being developed and realeased (still slowly), and there could be even more surprising things ahead. This is a very limited list.

**This Is Based On ... "Non Change" !! ... It Will Not Matter !!
+ I thought ST "thought" that everything matters! By the way... is this ST in BG the same than before 14 april? I felt a drastic change in the direction he gives to the thread... and it seems there could have been a "change".

I can imagine that the inventors of such technologies would receive threats against themselves and their families lives by TPTB so as to maintain the status quo.
+ They sometimes do, had received and very often their creations/discoveries had been plagiated, more human failures... we are not perfect and of course for people like me this is disgusting and dissapointing, but the world is what it is, and it is not so bad, it has much more good will and positive attitudes than misbehaviours ;)

**Will Not Matter !!
+ Again... not??? hmmmmmm

So as I see it, the only way we're breaking out of this paradigm is for Nibiru to come and drastically change the beings of earths ideas of what is possible in this existence.
+ Oh! I happen to thought on many alternative ways... much more plaussible and real, but doom is not among the top options, there are already too much things at risk and we are already too powerful for such a misfortune to happen.

**It Will Happen !!
+ Nibiru... well, if so, i hope it´s some kind of spatial base coming to say hello and wake up this civilization to a galactic community... or some alike, which requires not a massive spatial station to come and not even any sort of spectacular arrival... but you can be sure it had not destroyed all life on this planet each 3650 or so, years... things are much more surprising. It´s an amazing world.

Only such a paradigm shattering event can break us loose of the extremely tight shackles that have been placed on
us by TPTB.

**Well ... There Are "Other Things" ... That Would ... Be "Convincing" !!
+ So there are indeed other things, of course there are, we are already realizing that we must face such challenges... of which i shared, but may not be a complete relation.

Humanity has just been dumbed down way way too much and for way too long to be able to fix this.
+ No, this is just mainstream brainwashing, unfortunately it may be needed to rise attention and get people to do reasonable changes... i know it is difficult to advance.

** Humanity/Humankind ... Has Been "Out Of The Loop" ... For A Long Long While !! ... As These Things ... These Problems ... Did Not Happen Overnight!!
+ Yes, indeed, but not completely.

Even if we had a mass awakening I think TPTB's system is so securely in place that there is little we could do about
changing the system. Too late for that. Time to change the paradigm, and the only hope of doing that now is Nibiru.
+the point is that a system which is unsustainable COULDN´T be securely placed... it´s just an appearance, a danger we most diverge by performing reasonable and planned changes, some of which are already taking place... and some of which are, unfortunately, not being carried in the most enlightened/promising way... this "Godzilla" shows extreme resilience, as expected.

**It Is Far Too Late !! ... And "Time" To Prepare ... For The Cleansing !!
+ Hope not at all, and again, it´s never too late but for a known scenario... what´s your known scenario for which it is too late? It would be accurate to state that it´s too late for the species already extincted by human activities, for example. These loss on biodiversity is likely to be a perpetual loss, even if we managed to get their genetic codes (which we do for an extremely small part of them and often just for certain segments of the information)... it could be too late for a certain way of ecosystem dynamic equilibria, but there could be others and there could be a rescue if the components are not yet destroyed. Most of them are more or less damaged, few had been destroyed.

That being said, S. who C.'s attempts to encourage humanity to think of better ways of living with nature rather than subduing it certainly is a noble thing to do.
+ Much thanks, and i really am for this. Enlightment ;)

**It Is Noble ... If You Are Placing All Your Bets ... On "Humanity" & "Nature" Remaining As It Is !! ... It Will Not You Know !! ... The Whole Planet Will Be Upheaved & Rearranged !! ... The Whole Surface Will Be Cleansed !!
+ "Cleansed?" So you/Nibiru are coming to destroy? Isn´t it? An outerspace visitor most likely would be ashamend of supporting such messages, missing the marvel of biodiversity in all it´s levels on this planet or whatever other planet, all at once. I doubt on the reasonality and responsability of such a decission, and of such a decission being taken. Oh, but it´s unavoidable, a natural process (in part at least)... isn´t it? So we, and specially the paleontologist and geologists might be completely wrong in their comprehension of past life, which they are not so... there is a lack of comprehensive knowledge because of the limitations, but the knowledge is far from being meaningless and uncomprehensive. Things are other ways.

Purposely deflecting people's attention away from Nibiru is not such a noble thing though.
+ I don´t see any value on attracting attention to this "supposed unavoidable phenomena" for which there is no real information about, which is (as explained here/mostly misniformed) in contradiction in a large extent to current observations on hard proofs worked out by thousands of responsible scientists. However, i don´t purposedly deflect attention from anything, i rather call for attention on real things that are surely very important.

**It Is ... The Way Of A Debunker !! ... And Of Those Having ... These Agendas ... In Which To Do So !!
+ Not at all, and if i had an "agenda" it would be that of looking for a better world, one which gets really sustainable and preserves the natural beauty, while giving the best reasonable comodities and inspiring opportunities to the civilized developments without destroying the other beings we live and share with. Are you "debunking" me? That doesn´t matter too much, the ideas and hopes are what matters, we are to found answers and ways to live better.

Can anyone really blame him though?

**Yes ... We Can !!
Oh, you search for blames! for guilties! I´m guilty of being a human being, he he he Personally, i don´t search for such kind of judgements ST, and now it appears you do!
Interesting, and most dissapointing. If anyone ask me if i would "trust" such a being as you, i would sincerely ask that nope. So sorry.

We've been taught since birth that such ideas as Nibiru are nothing more than far fetched Science fiction and laughable to believe that any such thing could exist in reality.

**One Was Also Taught ... To Think ... "Outside The Box" !! ... But It Has Been Easier To Accept ... The Programming ... Which Has Been "Spoon Fed" ... Of "Terrestrial Authority Figures" ... Telling One(s) ... What To Believe Or Not Believe !!
+ unfortunately, indeed for some fields and subjects. BUT, not subjectable to an "honest" generalization.

Not only that, those of us without access to prophetic dreams/visions(also something we've been encouraged to believe are not real) have no way of verifying that any of this is true anyways.
+ We had other means, much more objective and veryfiable.

**You Have Inner Abilities ... To Understand ... To Be Able To Connect To These Things ... If You Choose To Do So !!
+ Inner abilities? Many... but isn´t that unexplained? It´s very swampy and ambiguous as always.

We can't check the information on the internet, as we're being told that is all manipulated anyways.
+ Depends on the information, by the way... the web is not a very good place to "research", we use it for sharing and probably would use it much more, but you would never discover anything on it... on the natural sciences (perhaps it could be amazing as an information puzzle for social studies, he he he)

**There Is Much .. That Is Controlled & Manipulated !! ... One Has To Be Able To ... Sort Through The Information ... To Find What Is Accurate & Factual ... Irregardless Of The Source(s) !!
+ Yes of coures, indeed. And the best way we knew is named "science".

We're told the current weather patterns/earthquakes are just normal aberrations/cycles and nothing to worry about.
+ They are much more than this. What is normal? I don´t think there is such a thing, we live on a dynamic change/equilibria, always moving within certain patterns. Science tries to unveil/discover those patterns, and to learn more and more on how this world works. It´s amazing how full of misteries it is, it´s the fuel of thought ; )

**Then You Chosen To Believe In A Lie !!
+ In what one? he he he

I personally choose to believe for the most part.
+ I personally choose to understand and remain skeptic.

**You Would Be Wise ... To Do So !!
+ Amen.

It almost feels necessary for my very survival that I believe in Nibiru.
+ Isn´t it much more necessary for you to understand what i reffered on my thread and search for solutions? Even if such a thing as Nibiru happens to exist (unlikely), then it would not be necessary at all for your survival that you learn that... unless, of course, you can get into a spaceship or you are a billionaire who could afford a short term investment in his egotistic short term survival.

**For Your Understanding ... Of What Is Happening ... This Is Necessary !!
+ "For your understanding"... it would be so a good flag for no doing anything, for surrendering without searching changes, for autocondemning humanity for massive failure in a not so far away future. Hopefully things happen to be different.

If Nibiru is not real
**Rest Assured ... It Is Quite Real !!
+ Might be, might not be... but not as suggested...

and our current paradigm is correct,
**Which It Is Not !!
+ Commented above... it´s just quite "incomplete".

then I feel existence is a sad and constricted state that I no longer think I can deal with.
+ Sad, don´t give up, you may be deceiving yourself ; )

**There Are Those ... Who Wish & Desire To Control ... To Manipulate !! ... Though Existence Of Itself ... Has No Controllers ... It Acts Of It's Own Accord ... It's Own Ways !! ... Which Are Not Understood ... By Those On
Terra/Earth !!
+ Partially... comprehended and "not" comprehended by those... indeed...

Until the time of the massive changes come I'm sure I will still have partial doubts,
+ The changes are all around you... oh, for Nibiru´s, that´s other thing... of course.

**This Is To Be Expected !!
+ Perhaps...

but I continue to hope it's all true and will eagerly await undeniable signs of Nibiru's incoming passage.
+ You hope such a doomfull thing? I hope the opposite, and for humanity to learn and grew up, take responsability and care for the planet, not dissapear and destroy every interesant for of life on it´s surface ; )

**You Will Have ... Such Signs !! ... And These Will Become Evident !!

Sorry this was a bit all over the place.

**It Was Coherent !!

Lack of sleep and too much work

**Yes ... We Understand !!

combined with mental illness makes for unorganized posts.

**What Is ... "Mental Illness" ?? ... We Do Not Have Such Afflictions !! ... Or Disease For That Matter !!

Unfortunately the Illinois quake looks to be shaping up to be another isolated event. Back to waiting and wondering if this indeed is all real or we're just fooling ourselves.
+ Nothing is "really isolated", it´s a "different comprehension", as ST used to quote, he he he

**There Is ... No Such Thing ... As An "Isolated Event" ... As All Things Connect !! ... Though ... You May Not Be Aware ... May Not Be Seeing ... These Connections !!
+ Yes, indeed. I completely agree with that.

Farewell For Now !!

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So, too much for so few things... he he he

For "Godzilla", i would imagine the "system"... wich is hard, resilient, to perform changes on itself... isn´t it a creative/positive interpretation? He he hehe he he he he

Is ST the same ST from before april´s 14th?

Best hopes for a better world,
S. who C.
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Was looking through my parents CDs and what do you know, found "The Very best of Herb Alpert".
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Oh, where did the conduit travel on Saturday?

**Lets See ... He Topped Off The Flea Supply ... Saw Freddie Kruger ... Saw Will .. Who Has Been Very Bad !! ... Said Hello To A Guinea Pig ... And Thought About Grounds ... Along With Taking In ... The Wet Look ... Which Was Quite Popular ... In The Later Afternoon !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!


Freddie Kruger, what were you seeing him for? What does he represent? What Grounds did you think about? The wet look, must have been raining. Top off Flea supply, you lost me, what does that mean? Thanks for reading and answering, your friend, Josh.
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