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Many of you are trying to understand a multi-dimensional universe in 3d terms. This is impossible and why ST In BG has "trouble" answering some of your questions.
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Well ST it appears I am finally getting my UFO sightings that I have so desperately wanted. I got more strange sightings last night. A bright white light brighter than any stars and moving across the sky with no sound was witnessed by me last night. Of course part of me still seems to think it was just a plane, but the light did not blink like a plane light does, and it was totally silent!
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WHAT!? I saw the exact same thing!
And one on my friend witnessed it too, but he did not find it weird at all.
I thought it could be a satellite.

Where were you?
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If anyone wants to help out with copy/pasting all ST In BG's answers in word documents, I created this group so we can upload all our word docs there.
[link to groups.google.com]

Please, create one word doc per page. It will prevent us to make duplicates.
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Well ST it appears I am finally getting my UFO sightings that I have so desperately wanted. I got more strange sightings last night. A bright white light brighter than any stars and moving across the sky with no sound was witnessed by me last night. Of course part of me still seems to think it was just a plane, but the light did not blink like a plane light does, and it was totally silent!


WHAT!? I saw the exact same thing!
And one on my friend witnessed it too, but he did not find it weird at all.
I thought it could be a satellite.

Where were you?
 Quoting: Whee! 8D


Vancouver region of British Columbia Canada.. time... I think about midnight but can't remember! Interesting indeed. I've been seeing some weird things lately.. getting excited. I flip back and forth from excitement and frustration lol.
Whee! 8D

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Show us a photo of you.!

**Glad You Asked !! ... You May Find Such A Photograph On The Top Of The Page Of This Site ... [link to www.beyondcommunion.com]

**This Shows "Andy" & Will Give You A Perspective Of How We Look/Appear !!

ST In BG
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;_; sorry but... scary. ;_;
The view of this form of humanoid always freaked me out ;_;

(But the more I look at this picture, the more I get used to it and the more kind he looks lol.
He looks like "Whut is that? Is it a cam*click* ... shit. Got caught.")

Aren't those the bad guys? The greys? The feelingless greys who can't have any feeling of love or compassion who came here to study us and who wish to integrate to their own genetics our ability to "feel"?

**Thank You For Your Kindness !!

**There Are Many Of Us That Come Here From "Different Points/Perspectives" Of Our History !! ... *One May Find Those That Would Have More Of A "Scientific Approach" Toward "Emotions" ... Wanting To Gather As Much Data As Possible To Attempt To Understand & Unravel This Mystery !! ... *While At The Opposite End Of The Scale ... There Are Those Newly Created Bodies That Incorporate Much Of What Was Lost !! ... That Of The Ability & Desire To Express Feelings Outward ... Rather Then Through The Mental Processes !!

**Speaking From More Of A "Scientific Perspective" We Do Not Understand Fully That Which Is Termed: The Emotion Of Love !! ... As "Outward Emotional Capacity/Expression" Is Just Becoming More Ingrained Into Our Beings !! ... Of Which This Was In Your Terms: Long,Long Ago !! ... *Romance Likewise Would Also Be Of That Which Is Being Studies ... Along With Many Different Types/Degrees & Aspects Of Emotions/Emotional Display !!

**We Would Take Interest In Terrestrial Beings ... But From The Aspect Of Those Volunteers Contributing Their Efforts In Helping Our In Our Projects/Experiments .... That Will Not Only Benefit Both Our Peoples ... But All Beings/Life/Lifeforms !!
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That is weird, because it contradicts the fact that you know that Anunnaki created the human form as we know it now. If you know Enki who created our life form, don't you just already know how we are done, how we work, especially if you have been chosen to create our new 4D bodies?

So I come to have the same question than AC 469878 : Why does it seem a much different approach is now taken in answering posters as compared to 2005?

It's just like you are not the one who was answering back then.

It especially changed on page 58 when you started to talk in "we" rather than in "I".
I find this somewhat weird.




Did you ever hear of Ashtar Sheran? I've read a few channellings from him in the past. Does he really exist or is he some fictional character used by channels to be interesting?
The world woud be a thousand times better place if more cults existed.
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**User 124**

Wow my cheekbone has been cracked too, back in March and its still very painful, I have a dent that isn´t too obvious but it´s there, I know how you feel, I still can´t sleep on that side and had a wicked black eye, how did you manage the injury?

Sorry to digress ST

**Oh That Is Ok !!

I was considering asking yourself regarding this and now you have answered.

**Indeed So !!

May I respectfully ask in your assistance for a little medical attention :o)

**Just "Place The Call" ... Put In A Request For Assistance ... And We Will See What We Can Do !!

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Do you mean that if I place a call and that you receive it, you'll be able to tell me right here on this forum what it was about?
That would be cool :3
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ST in BG, would it be possible to OBE and visit The Great Alexandrian Library?
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What is this library? Why is it called 'Alexandrian'?

open question to anyone who can answer..

Thnx.
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Hi ST in BG,

You mentioned that you transferred your thoughts via telepathy. We humans seem to have lost that ability back in the distance past and ended up with the endless number of languages that are like a tower of babel. Even now it seems that more and more groups are attempting to isolate themselves by bringing back ancient languages instead of attempting to teach everybody a universal language so that we can all understand each other.

As I age and my hearing gets worse, it seems that I have greater difficulty in understanding especially in crowded and noisy areas. Is it possible to obtain telepathic abilities again?

Thanks.
"I am not afraid to stand alone, but it's always more fun if I have friends standing with me." Lena Coleon.
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ST in BG, would it be possible to OBE and visit The Great Alexandrian Library?

What is this library? Why is it called 'Alexandrian'?

Thnx.
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hi Hi,

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
The Royal Library of Alexandria or Ancient Library of Alexandria in Alexandria, Egypt, was once the largest library in the ancient world.

The Library of Alexandria, generally thought to have been founded at the beginning of the Third century BC, was conceived and opened during the reign of Ptolemy I Soter, or that of his son Ptolemy II of Egypt. It has been reasonably established that the Library or parts of the collection were destroyed on a number of occasions, but to this day the details of the destruction (or destructions) remain a lively source of controversy based on inconclusive evidence. The Bibliotheca Alexandrina, an institution intended both as a commemoration and an emulation of the original, was inaugurated in 2003 near the site of the old Library.[1]


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For AC454457

The library that is spoken of in an OBE experience is NOT the Alexandrian Library. People often refer to it as the Alexandrian library because it is an attempt to translate
a 3-d earth creation to what resides in a different density,
which does not have the limitations of 3-d.

The library spoken of in an OBE is extremely vast. It contains virtually every work created on earth and more.
Unlike libraries and media sources here on earth, the information contained in this library is UNTAINTED and PURE. It is a creation of certain energy essences having incarnations here on earth. Also the information you are able to research in this library comes complete with full sensory experience.

Not all incarnations can access this library. It is a bonus so to speak for incarnations that are on a unique path, as well as maturity of the incarnation on this path.

William
Whee! 8D

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For AC454457

The library that is spoken of in an OBE experience is NOT the Alexandrian Library. People often refer to it as the Alexandrian library because it is an attempt to translate
a 3-d earth creation to what resides in a different density,
which does not have the limitations of 3-d.

The library spoken of in an OBE is extremely vast. It contains virtually every work created on earth and more.
Unlike libraries and media sources here on earth, the information contained in this library is UNTAINTED and PURE. It is a creation of certain energy essences having incarnations here on earth. Also the information you are able to research in this library comes complete with full sensory experience.

Not all incarnations can access this library. It is a bonus so to speak for incarnations that are on a unique path, as well as maturity of the incarnation on this path.

William
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Akashic Records?
The world woud be a thousand times better place if more cults existed.
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ST??

Are my poems in the astral library?

((hugs))

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Greeting Watcher

Thanks for the knowledge you share.

**You Are Quite Welcome !!

**The Termed: "Orion Conlict" Is Being Waged (Behind The Scenes) Here ... So Is The Maldek Conflict.

What caused the Orion conflict?

**We Would Say The Basic Desires Of Beings To Exert Themselves ... To Learn By Challenging Or Making A Challenge Of Their Surroundings & Their Environment !! ... Of Which This "Desire" Got Out Of Hand !!

**Of The Examples On Terra/Earth ... You Have Those Who Wish To Possess Power & Control Over Everything & Everyone !! ... Of All Of Life !!

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!

**Neither Side Wanted To "Concede" Anything To The Other !! ... Both Adopting Ways/Means Of Resistance & Warfare ... That The Other Side Possessed !!

**Peaceful Beings Came To Those Worlds To Attempt To Settle & Negociate ... And Found That They Too Were Trapped ... Caught In The Endless Cycle Of Death & Destruction !!

**This/These Conflicts Have Been Taken To Many Worlds ... Many Staging Grounds/Areas To "Work Out" The Disputes !! ... Whereas After Many Millinea Progress Has Slowly Been Made !! ...

**However ... The "Spacial Beings" Who Have Allowed This Confrontation To Continue ... Without Interceding ... Have Decided ... "Enough Is Enough" !! ... That It Is Most Obvious That You Can´t Handle Your Affairs !! ... So We Will Handle Them For You !! ... Wether You Wish This Or Not !! ... So Although It Looks Like The "Warring Parties" On Terra/Earth Are Taking Over ... Soon They Will Be In For A Very Rude Awakening !!

Were the mine workers male and female workers?

**The Mine Workers Were Of A "Neutral Gender" !! ... Then Were Genetically Changed To Become Seperate Sexes & To Be Able To Reproduce Amongst Themselves !!

Thanks

**You Are Very Welcome !!

ST In BG
 Quoting: ST In BG 964



I thought I'd repost this for anyone that didn't see it.. it is from page 86 and helps a lot to understand what we're doing herre on planet earth/ the reason we're here.

I also wanted to as ST about a certain section of his response

Quote:

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!



Did you mean that the beings of those worlds developed technology that caused the beings to be forcefully required to reanimate on those planets? Did certain beings get rich off such endless wars and become "rulers" of those planets? If so, why were no failsafes put in place to stop such technologies from being developed? I wonder the same about why there were no failsafes to stop TPTB on our planet from being allowed to transfer their energies to lab grown bodies and thus never perish. I suppose the intent of TPTB on our planet would be to eventually establish the same technologies that they did on Orion that "trapped" the energies in the same cycle over and over. I'm extremely grateful this has not happened on our planet!
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Greeting Watcher

Thanks for the knowledge you share.

**You Are Quite Welcome !!

**The Termed: "Orion Conlict" Is Being Waged (Behind The Scenes) Here ... So Is The Maldek Conflict.

What caused the Orion conflict?

**We Would Say The Basic Desires Of Beings To Exert Themselves ... To Learn By Challenging Or Making A Challenge Of Their Surroundings & Their Environment !! ... Of Which This "Desire" Got Out Of Hand !!

**Of The Examples On Terra/Earth ... You Have Those Who Wish To Possess Power & Control Over Everything & Everyone !! ... Of All Of Life !!

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!

**Neither Side Wanted To "Concede" Anything To The Other !! ... Both Adopting Ways/Means Of Resistance & Warfare ... That The Other Side Possessed !!

**Peaceful Beings Came To Those Worlds To Attempt To Settle & Negociate ... And Found That They Too Were Trapped ... Caught In The Endless Cycle Of Death & Destruction !!

**This/These Conflicts Have Been Taken To Many Worlds ... Many Staging Grounds/Areas To "Work Out" The Disputes !! ... Whereas After Many Millinea Progress Has Slowly Been Made !! ...

**However ... The "Spacial Beings" Who Have Allowed This Confrontation To Continue ... Without Interceding ... Have Decided ... "Enough Is Enough" !! ... That It Is Most Obvious That You Can´t Handle Your Affairs !! ... So We Will Handle Them For You !! ... Wether You Wish This Or Not !! ... So Although It Looks Like The "Warring Parties" On Terra/Earth Are Taking Over ... Soon They Will Be In For A Very Rude Awakening !!

Were the mine workers male and female workers?

**The Mine Workers Were Of A "Neutral Gender" !! ... Then Were Genetically Changed To Become Seperate Sexes & To Be Able To Reproduce Amongst Themselves !!

Thanks

**You Are Very Welcome !!

ST In BG



I thought I'd repost this for anyone that didn't see it.. it is from page 86 and helps a lot to understand what we're doing herre on planet earth/ the reason we're here.

I also wanted to as ST about a certain section of his response

Quote:

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!



Did you mean that the beings of those worlds developed technology that caused the beings to be forcefully required to reanimate on those planets? Did certain beings get rich off such endless wars and become "rulers" of those planets? If so, why were no failsafes put in place to stop such technologies from being developed? I wonder the same about why there were no failsafes to stop TPTB on our planet from being allowed to transfer their energies to lab grown bodies and thus never perish. I suppose the intent of TPTB on our planet would be to eventually establish the same technologies that they did on Orion that "trapped" the energies in the same cycle over and over. I'm extremely grateful this has not happened on our planet!
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I've read that before.
It's weird that you bring that up now, because it relates to what I was talking about in an earlier post about the so called "bad greys". I thought that they were the ones, the feelingless, loveless, compassionless ones who had the technology to enslave people even after their death, and that they were planning things with TPTB to manipulate people here on earth so when the shit would hit the fan, those people would willfully follow those "bad greys" to their planet thinking that they would be saved, when in fact, they would be trapped in an endless cycle of enslavement.
So, they were beings from Orion? What did they look like if they weren't greys?
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Greetings: Watcher
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Greeting Watcher

Thanks for the knowledge you share.

**You Are Quite Welcome !!

**The Termed: "Orion Conlict" Is Being Waged (Behind The Scenes) Here ... So Is The Maldek Conflict.

What caused the Orion conflict?

**We Would Say The Basic Desires Of Beings To Exert Themselves ... To Learn By Challenging Or Making A Challenge Of Their Surroundings & Their Environment !! ... Of Which This "Desire" Got Out Of Hand !!

**Of The Examples On Terra/Earth ... You Have Those Who Wish To Possess Power & Control Over Everything & Everyone !! ... Of All Of Life !!

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!

**Neither Side Wanted To "Concede" Anything To The Other !! ... Both Adopting Ways/Means Of Resistance & Warfare ... That The Other Side Possessed !!

**Peaceful Beings Came To Those Worlds To Attempt To Settle & Negociate ... And Found That They Too Were Trapped ... Caught In The Endless Cycle Of Death & Destruction !!

**This/These Conflicts Have Been Taken To Many Worlds ... Many Staging Grounds/Areas To "Work Out" The Disputes !! ... Whereas After Many Millinea Progress Has Slowly Been Made !! ...

**However ... The "Spacial Beings" Who Have Allowed This Confrontation To Continue ... Without Interceding ... Have Decided ... "Enough Is Enough" !! ... That It Is Most Obvious That You Can´t Handle Your Affairs !! ... So We Will Handle Them For You !! ... Wether You Wish This Or Not !! ... So Although It Looks Like The "Warring Parties" On Terra/Earth Are Taking Over ... Soon They Will Be In For A Very Rude Awakening !!

Were the mine workers male and female workers?

**The Mine Workers Were Of A "Neutral Gender" !! ... Then Were Genetically Changed To Become Seperate Sexes & To Be Able To Reproduce Amongst Themselves !!

Thanks

**You Are Very Welcome !!

ST In BG



I thought I'd repost this for anyone that didn't see it.. it is from page 86 and helps a lot to understand what we're doing herre on planet earth/ the reason we're here.

I also wanted to as ST about a certain section of his response

Quote:

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!



Did you mean that the beings of those worlds developed technology that caused the beings to be forcefully required to reanimate on those planets? Did certain beings get rich off such endless wars and become "rulers" of those planets? If so, why were no failsafes put in place to stop such technologies from being developed? I wonder the same about why there were no failsafes to stop TPTB on our planet from being allowed to transfer their energies to lab grown bodies and thus never perish. I suppose the intent of TPTB on our planet would be to eventually establish the same technologies that they did on Orion that "trapped" the energies in the same cycle over and over. I'm extremely grateful this has not happened on our planet!


I've read that before.
It's weird that you bring that up now, because it relates to what I was talking about in an earlier post about the so called "bad greys". I thought that they were the ones, the feelingless, loveless, compassionless ones who had the technology to enslave people even after their death, and that they were planning things with TPTB to manipulate people here on earth so when the shit would hit the fan, those people would willfully follow those "bad greys" to their planet, where they would be trapped in an endless cycle of enslavement.
So, they were beings from Orion? What did they look like if they weren't greys?
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Hmmm. Yeah this is the kind of thing I worry about. No matter what is said I cannot alleviate this worry. If the universe works in such ways we could be in big trouble unfortunately. No matter what is said and how we feel about it, it still appears there is always that chance that its an all encompassing manipulation that we just can't hope to perceive.
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Hi ST in BG

I have a few questions about the original ancient beings on this world.

I have a little conflict about what you are explaining and material I study. By the way this material is called the Matrix 5 series published by trufax.org, if anyone is interested.

Let me explain what my material says about the original beings, the genetic experiments leading to the situation we have today with seperate genders and different races.

The original beings on this planet were UNI-GENDER, both genders in one. Along came the Orion empire with their Sirian allies. After discovering this planet and finding it ripe for the mining of its natural resources. They decided the need for a large work force was reqiured first.

They (Orion & Sirius) knew the original being was too well balanced in its present physical and in harmony with the environment, but they were niave. They decided to first dazzle the beings with technology (Holographic projections, space ships, etc.). Since the original beings had no experiences with technology, The experiences were nature oriented, they were dazzled. Dazzled to the point where the Orions were thought of as gods by the original earthers. A sufficient enough show was presented to make sure this impression stuck.

Once the impression of the Orions as gods took hold. They convinced the original earthers that by performing genetic processes on them would enhance them to become more like the gods they revered(Orions).

When in actual fact what was occuring was DECEPTION. The Orions prime aim was to develop a work force and make slaves of them. They did this by splitting the UNI-GENDER being into seperate genders. This set up an electrical/chemical imbalance and disrupted the harmony. In addition the original 12 strands of DNA was cut up and reduced to two. This effectively cut off the ability to communicate telepathically and forced verbal communication.
The new genetically altered body also had a command structure set up within the DNA which was designed to react to verbal commands and images.

The Alphabet we have today is no arbitrary thing. There are specific reasons why the five vowels are contained in every word and why certain images, both overt and covert (subliminal) are transmitted in print and electronics.
Sex is a prime DNA command, as the Orions needed lots of bodies. It is a prime controlling factor and persuit of the body. Look around in society, the evidence is quite plain.

In addition to the Orion and Sirian doing their thing. Other groups of Aliens came and also performed genetic experiments, creating other races. In fact Earth had become a giant experimental lab.

So, ST in BG. The intelligence and the way you handle questions has me impressed. Much of what you say makes a lot of sense. However the way you explain about the Annunaki, Enlil, Enki and so on does not jive with what I INTUITIONALLY know as the correct story, as per what I have explained above.

AS I mentioned in an earlier post. There is a great deal of mass deception going on. The best way to gain a following of someone you want to manipulate is give them
mostly fact, then throw in some choice fiction in the area you want to manipulate them. No doubt this skill was used on the original earther.

Since here on earth, there is no way to verify anything. This is when intuition kicks in and everyone must strengthen their ties to this intuition.

Can you add to or clarify what I have explained above so I can INTUITIONALLY sort this out.

William
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For AC454457

The library that is spoken of in an OBE experience is NOT the Alexandrian Library. People often refer to it as the Alexandrian library because it is an attempt to translate
a 3-d earth creation to what resides in a different density,
which does not have the limitations of 3-d.

The library spoken of in an OBE is extremely vast. It contains virtually every work created on earth and more.
Unlike libraries and media sources here on earth, the information contained in this library is UNTAINTED and PURE. It is a creation of certain energy essences having incarnations here on earth. Also the information you are able to research in this library comes complete with full sensory experience.

Not all incarnations can access this library. It is a bonus so to speak for incarnations that are on a unique path, as well as maturity of the incarnation on this path.

William

Akashic Records?
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Some would consider this to be the Akashic Records, as it would contain an up to the second record of your life. Your Higher Self or as ST likes to say your energy essence is the inputter of this energy. It is also the inputter of energy to the library that keeps the library existing in form. No one, but you can access your record and there is no judgement nonsence.

William
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Greetings: Watcher
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Greeting Watcher

Thanks for the knowledge you share.

**You Are Quite Welcome !!

**The Termed: "Orion Conlict" Is Being Waged (Behind The Scenes) Here ... So Is The Maldek Conflict.

What caused the Orion conflict?

**We Would Say The Basic Desires Of Beings To Exert Themselves ... To Learn By Challenging Or Making A Challenge Of Their Surroundings & Their Environment !! ... Of Which This "Desire" Got Out Of Hand !!

**Of The Examples On Terra/Earth ... You Have Those Who Wish To Possess Power & Control Over Everything & Everyone !! ... Of All Of Life !!

**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!

**Neither Side Wanted To "Concede" Anything To The Other !! ... Both Adopting Ways/Means Of Resistance & Warfare ... That The Other Side Possessed !!

**Peaceful Beings Came To Those Worlds To Attempt To Settle & Negociate ... And Found That They Too Were Trapped ... Caught In The Endless Cycle Of Death & Destruction !!

**This/These Conflicts Have Been Taken To Many Worlds ... Many Staging Grounds/Areas To "Work Out" The Disputes !! ... Whereas After Many Millinea Progress Has Slowly Been Made !! ...

**However ... The "Spacial Beings" Who Have Allowed This Confrontation To Continue ... Without Interceding ... Have Decided ... "Enough Is Enough" !! ... That It Is Most Obvious That You Can´t Handle Your Affairs !! ... So We Will Handle Them For You !! ... Wether You Wish This Or Not !! ... So Although It Looks Like The "Warring Parties" On Terra/Earth Are Taking Over ... Soon They Will Be In For A Very Rude Awakening !!

Were the mine workers male and female workers?

**The Mine Workers Were Of A "Neutral Gender" !! ... Then Were Genetically Changed To Become Seperate Sexes & To Be Able To Reproduce Amongst Themselves !!

Thanks

**You Are Very Welcome !!

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I thought I'd repost this for anyone that didn't see it.. it is from page 86 and helps a lot to understand what we're doing herre on planet earth/ the reason we're here.

I also wanted to as ST about a certain section of his response

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**The Beings Of Those Worlds Thought Of Things (Thankfully !!) ... That Those Here Have Not Come Up With ... In Order To Literally Enslave The Planetary Beings !! ... To Not Allow Them To Leave !! ... Whereas When They "Passed On" They Would Return To The Endless Warring Conflict !! ... Taking One Side Then The Other Side !!



Did you mean that the beings of those worlds developed technology that caused the beings to be forcefully required to reanimate on those planets? Did certain beings get rich off such endless wars and become "rulers" of those planets? If so, why were no failsafes put in place to stop such technologies from being developed? I wonder the same about why there were no failsafes to stop TPTB on our planet from being allowed to transfer their energies to lab grown bodies and thus never perish. I suppose the intent of TPTB on our planet would be to eventually establish the same technologies that they did on Orion that "trapped" the energies in the same cycle over and over. I'm extremely grateful this has not happened on our planet!


I've read that before.
It's weird that you bring that up now, because it relates to what I was talking about in an earlier post about the so called "bad greys". I thought that they were the ones, the feelingless, loveless, compassionless ones who had the technology to enslave people even after their death, and that they were planning things with TPTB to manipulate people here on earth so when the shit would hit the fan, those people would willfully follow those "bad greys" to their planet, where they would be trapped in an endless cycle of enslavement.
So, they were beings from Orion? What did they look like if they weren't greys?



Hmmm. Yeah this is the kind of thing I worry about. No matter what is said I cannot alleviate this worry. If the universe works in such ways we could be in big trouble unfortunately. No matter what is said and how we feel about it, it still appears there is always that chance that its an all encompassing manipulation that we just can't hope to perceive.
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Yes this is what is being presented today. The impression that it is a giant manipulation. Fear fear fear, doom doom doom everywhere. Everyone knows that 911 was a con. Everyone knows Governments are corrupt. Everyone knows the economy is a farce. Everyone knows microchipping is coming.
Everybody knows the Good Cop, Bad Cop routine is being played. They are purposefully throwing all this in our face. Yes, they even have the ability to capture a spirit stream after death and shoot it in to another body.

BUTTTTTTTTTTT, having the ability to do something, does not mean they will actually be able to do it. From the body I.D. perspective, it is kind of hopeless. We are overwhelmed. So what, the body will die, who cares. It is highly flawed and something I cannot wait to rid myself of.
But my Soul (Higher Self) and spirit stream is another matter altogether. Yes there are many astral beings and traps waiting for the spirit stream. But my Soul is not just any old soul, it is on a unique path and I suspect yours is as well. It will trump any action by anyone, if it is contrary to my path and there is not a damn thing the psychotic aliens and their allies on earth can do about it.

Go to www.trufax.org/Matrix5 for some outstanding information

William
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4) One thing is not clear: when will Planet X (Niburu) arrive: in June 2007 or in July 2012?

**The Actual Arrival Date Depends On Many Variables ... That Change From Moment To Moment !! ... We/Ourselves ... Have To Constantly Refigure & Recalculate New Estimates !! ... Of Which Any Such Variables ... Can Throw A Precisce Calculation(s) ... Into The Garbage Heap !! ... As Of This We Have Constant Monitoring & Ongoing Data Collecting/Processing ... To Attempt
To Keep On Top Of Things !!

**One Such Estimate Of An "Early Arrival" ... This Could Be Yet Of Your Calendar Month Of December !! ... To Which Other Estimates Can Project This Planet & It's Many Satellites/Moons, "Space Debris" (Meteors, Ect.) ... To
Not Arrive ... For A Number Of Your Months !! ... As Your Main Calendar In Use ... The Gregorian Calendar ... Is A Religious One ... Based Upon The "Estimate Of A Religious Event" ... It Is Not In Coordination/Line Up ... Of That Of Galactic Means !! ... The Approximation Of Error Is ... 5 - 7 Terrestrial Years !! ... Which Places The Year 2012 Either In Your Present Year Of 2006 ... Or In 2007 ... Or Perhaps Somewhere Inbetween !!

St, now the gregorian year calender may be only 4 years off, i mean nibiru isnt nearing earth nor earth nearing nibiru and is paused. Gas prices are going down to $3.94 at the pump now, what is the reason?

Its nearing the end of July, you see any great changes in the month of aug or sept, what i mean is, basically, are all the plans in place for tptb to dash to their bunkers, like are tptb feeling the urgency fast aproaching and are in a rush to get things done in a hurry up , hurry up manner cause nibiru is so close to passing that they are almost tripping over eachother nervously awaiting the aproach and is this why obama is pushing this global warming scam so much now that he is blaiming on earthlings the cause of our pollution?

I mean the candidates talk about global warming but their is no urgency to stop it, they keep allowing record amounts of co2 into the atmosphere anyways and the bush admin allows this, i know co2 has very little to do with the global warming if nibiru is real and is the real cause of this warming.

But their is no urgency to try to save the planet from tptb or even people that don't know about nibiru their is no urgency to save the planet , how come that is that many that are not in the know and believe that global warming is caused by co2 then how come they don't try to help resolve the issues?

Well i'm tired , hope nibiru is real and will arrive before the end of 2008 and if not i'll just go on with living my boring life and perhaps move in with my terestrial parents since i can't keep up with the economy and afford myself a house as i'm already behind on bills, although i do have a good job now and will first get paid tomorrow but still it will take me along time to pay my parents back and all the loans i got and such, but "IF" nibiru cause first passage before July 2009 that will be good cause i can survive the economy for a few years maybe , i don't think i will have to worry about paying all the money back that i owe since nibiru will atleast arrive for pretty sure before gregorian 2012, so i'll still have big bills perhaps but that will be a non worry cause i won't have to worry about retirement and social security and 401k plan and pension plan since i'll be out this life before even getting close to age 65.

But perhaps you precise prediction gets thrown into the garbage heap again, oh no, that sucks so i guess nibiru can't really be predicted all that good since it can get thrown way off by unexpected happenings, well i need sleep.

hope you visit me during my rest period and show me some things that are amazing like nibiru and your et space vehicles. thanks again, Josh. hf hf














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Yes this is what is being presented today. The impression that it is a giant manipulation. Fear fear fear, doom doom doom everywhere. Everyone knows that 911 was a con. Everyone knows Governments are corrupt. Everyone knows the economy is a farce. Everyone knows microchipping is coming.
Everybody knows the Good Cop, Bad Cop routine is being played. They are purposefully throwing all this in our face. Yes, they even have the ability to capture a spirit stream after death and shoot it in to another body.


--------> Saying EVERYONE knows about 911/corrupt govt/economy is a farce etc is a huge overstatement IMO. I think the actual number of believers of all these things are probably about 5-10% of the population at best. The rest slumber peacefully in a made up world.


BUTTTTTTTTTTT, having the ability to do something, does not mean they will actually be able to do it. From the body I.D. perspective, it is kind of hopeless. We are overwhelmed. So what, the body will die, who cares. It is highly flawed and something I cannot wait to rid myself of.
But my Soul (Higher Self) and spirit stream is another matter altogether. Yes there are many astral beings and traps waiting for the spirit stream. But my Soul is not just any old soul, it is on a unique path and I suspect yours is as well. It will trump any action by anyone, if it is contrary to my path and there is not a damn thing the psychotic aliens and their allies on earth can do about it.

---------> Well I do hope you're right! Who knows how long we've been in this cycle though and how many planets it has encompassed? Maybe most of us will be shipped off to try to get out of this mess again on another planet. Seems we failed catastrophically this time. Well hopefully most of us don't have to repeat these lessons.


Go to www.trufax.org/Matrix5 for some outstanding information

William
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Hi ST.

Can you please explain further why you consider the concept "I AM" to be a 'religious' concept and not one of conciousness?

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Greetings: William: User ID: 470930
**As To "The Library" ... The Conduit One May Say ... "Works There" !! ... Of This "Plane" !! ... For You See .... This Is One Of His "Natural Places" ... As Of One Of His Aspects ... He Was/Is ... A "Reference Librarian" .... At The Great Alexandrian Library ....
Alexandria, Egypt !! ... Which He Died Defending The Library Against Invaders !! ... So Of This ... This To Him Is ... The Great Alexandrian Library .... All Over Again .... And Yet More .... More Then It Contained
... Within It's Huge Walls ... & High Tiers Of Shelves Of Scrolls !! ... This Is The Library Of Terra/Earth ... Which Unlike The Earth Library ... Cannot Be Destroyed !! ... And Will Always Be Accessible !!
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ST, how does one access this library?
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Greetings: William: User ID: 470930
**As To "The Library" ... The Conduit One May Say ... "Works There" !! ... Of This "Plane" !! ... For You See .... This Is One Of His "Natural Places" ... As Of One Of His Aspects ... He Was/Is ... A "Reference Librarian" .... At The Great Alexandrian Library ....
Alexandria, Egypt !! ... Which He Died Defending The Library Against Invaders !! ... So Of This ... This To Him Is ... The Great Alexandrian Library .... All Over Again .... And Yet More .... More Then It Contained
... Within It's Huge Walls ... & High Tiers Of Shelves Of Scrolls !! ... This Is The Library Of Terra/Earth ... Which Unlike The Earth Library ... Cannot Be Destroyed !! ... And Will Always Be Accessible !!



ST, how does one access this library?
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The 'library' is beyond the 'veil' so that immature 'self' cannot pass. If the motive of Self is 'self', the records are diss-jointed and un-affirmable.

The records are the echo's of the ever present 'now' that one can peer into with the appropriate vibration of 'intent'.

Not all intent is understood by 'self'.

Many, many seek access yet are fairly and justfully denied by their own unknown being.


F*#k... Why know more when not knowing anything?
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ST... Can you pls further discuss your understanding of the concept of 'ownership' of truth?

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[quoting:William 472306]




Yes this is what is being presented today. The impression that it is a giant manipulation. Fear fear fear, doom doom doom everywhere. Everyone knows that 911 was a con. Everyone knows Governments are corrupt. Everyone knows the economy is a farce. Everyone knows microchipping is coming.
Everybody knows the Good Cop, Bad Cop routine is being played. They are purposefully throwing all this in our face. Yes, they even have the ability to capture a spirit stream after death and shoot it in to another body.


--------> Saying EVERYONE knows about 911/corrupt govt/economy is a farce etc is a huge overstatement IMO. I think the actual number of believers of all these things are probably about 5-10% of the population at best. The rest slumber peacefully in a made up world.


BUTTTTTTTTTTT, having the ability to do something, does not mean they will actually be able to do it. From the body I.D. perspective, it is kind of hopeless. We are overwhelmed. So what, the body will die, who cares. It is highly flawed and something I cannot wait to rid myself of.
But my Soul (Higher Self) and spirit stream is another matter altogether. Yes there are many astral beings and traps waiting for the spirit stream. But my Soul is not just any old soul, it is on a unique path and I suspect yours is as well. It will trump any action by anyone, if it is contrary to my path and there is not a damn thing the psychotic aliens and their allies on earth can do about it.

---------> Well I do hope you're right! Who knows how long we've been in this cycle though and how many planets it has encompassed? Maybe most of us will be shipped off to try to get out of this mess again on another planet. Seems we failed catastrophically this time. Well hopefully most of us don't have to repeat these lessons.


Go to www.trufax.org/Matrix5 for some outstanding information

William
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I stand corrected, you are right. Not everyone knows.
What I should have said is, The people who are aware know what is happening.

I am right, we did not fail. The actual failures are the aliens, sticking their snouts and claws in our affairs and constantly trying to circumvent natural universal laws. Speaking for myself, I know I am in graduation motion and will soon be out of this 3-d, 4-d mess. On to bigger and better things. The sequential aliens are stuck in a polarity war and severely out of balance. Externally, they put on quite a show with technology and lofty sounding language. But internally they are FUCKED.

The kicker is who they are internally cannot be disguised, their aura will shine like a beacon on the astral. Go to Matrix 5 for some information on how to deal with them on the astral. It is giving them quite the shock right now.
Just remember a balance disposition and GOLD LIGHT

William
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I am quite interested in that book William. I read the daily sample and it explained how we choose either a rocky or a smooth road, and how the rocky road is always chosen by a final incarnation, never a smooth road.

I am entirely sure this is my final incarnation. My life is full of challenges, and I am now finding these challenges easier and easier to overcome. It states how the smooth road is a trap, and how the rocky road gets easier and easier.

Thanks for showing me William.
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its a good book..getting it myself actually
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[quoting:William 472306]




Yes this is what is being presented today. The impression that it is a giant manipulation. Fear fear fear, doom doom doom everywhere. Everyone knows that 911 was a con. Everyone knows Governments are corrupt. Everyone knows the economy is a farce. Everyone knows microchipping is coming.
Everybody knows the Good Cop, Bad Cop routine is being played. They are purposefully throwing all this in our face. Yes, they even have the ability to capture a spirit stream after death and shoot it in to another body.


--------> Saying EVERYONE knows about 911/corrupt govt/economy is a farce etc is a huge overstatement IMO. I think the actual number of believers of all these things are probably about 5-10% of the population at best. The rest slumber peacefully in a made up world.


BUTTTTTTTTTTT, having the ability to do something, does not mean they will actually be able to do it. From the body I.D. perspective, it is kind of hopeless. We are overwhelmed. So what, the body will die, who cares. It is highly flawed and something I cannot wait to rid myself of.
But my Soul (Higher Self) and spirit stream is another matter altogether. Yes there are many astral beings and traps waiting for the spirit stream. But my Soul is not just any old soul, it is on a unique path and I suspect yours is as well. It will trump any action by anyone, if it is contrary to my path and there is not a damn thing the psychotic aliens and their allies on earth can do about it.

---------> Well I do hope you're right! Who knows how long we've been in this cycle though and how many planets it has encompassed? Maybe most of us will be shipped off to try to get out of this mess again on another planet. Seems we failed catastrophically this time. Well hopefully most of us don't have to repeat these lessons.


Go to www.trufax.org/Matrix5 for some outstanding information

William



I stand corrected, you are right. Not everyone knows.
What I should have said is, The people who are aware know what is happening.

I am right, we did not fail. The actual failures are the aliens, sticking their snouts and claws in our affairs and constantly trying to circumvent natural universal laws. Speaking for myself, I know I am in graduation motion and will soon be out of this 3-d, 4-d mess. On to bigger and better things. The sequential aliens are stuck in a polarity war and severely out of balance. Externally, they put on quite a show with technology and lofty sounding language. But internally they are FUCKED.

The kicker is who they are internally cannot be disguised, their aura will shine like a beacon on the astral. Go to Matrix 5 for some information on how to deal with them on the astral. It is giving them quite the shock right now.
Just remember a balance disposition and GOLD LIGHT

William
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The matrix information is very interesting. I believe I read some of it earlier when I was first getting interested in things beyond our mundane artificial system. Best wishes!
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Greetings: MC in BC: User ID: 471630

ST in BG, would it be possible to OBE and visit The Great
Alexandrian Library?

**It's Possible !! ... & One Can Also Visit This ... Live Too ... In The Flesh !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Thanks again for the info it was most helpful.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

My only other comment to add is that you did refer to the creations as "mindless slaves" back on page 81 as evidenced by the quote I posted.

**Oh Yes !!! ... We Looked Up That Comment ... & Now We See Of Your "Concern" !!

**You Will Notice This Part ....

... So The "Mine Workers" Intended To Be No More Then "Mindless Slaves" To Take Away The Toil & Hardships Of The Anunnaki Mine Workers ... Had (Unbeknown To Enlil) Been Created "Of Royal Blood" ... Of Enki´s Blood !!

**This Is Not Calling The Creations/Mineworkers .... "Mindless Slaves" ... However It Was Of Our View ... Of Enki's View/Opinion ... That Was Of How They (The Others) Saw Things !! ... It Is A "Fine Distinction" ... Of "Special Creations" Made Solely To Take Away The Toil & Hardships ... From The Anunnaki Workers .... To Look At Them As "Mindless Slaves" !!

**Which In Truth ... They Were Not Educated (Until Enki & Ninti Did This In Stealth/Secret !!) ... & They Were Told/Taught What To Do ... & They Did It !! ... They Were In This Regard ... A "Tool" .... A Created Tool ... As
One Would Create .... A Mining Tool .... To Dig Loose The Rock !! ... Except They Were ... The Laborious Force Employing That Mining Tool !!

**Now As You Perceive "Slavery" In Your Own Time ... These Are Of "Intelligent Beings" ... Who Were Taken From Their Lands ... From Their Homes .... & Sold To Work ... To Toil For Others .... To Die In Foreign
Countries .... As Laborers ... Perhaps Never To See Home ... Or Their Families Ever Again !! ... So This "Slavery" .... Is Something Quite Different ... As These Beings Are Intelligent !! ... As Yes ... They Are
The Many Many Many +++ Descendants Of The "Changed" (By Enki & Ninti) ... Ancestors ... Those "Specially Created Mineworkers" !! ... Who Were Genetically Altered & Educated ... In All Things ... Especially In Sexual Reproduction !! ... Oh Boy !!

So that kind of made me think "Oh boy that's not very nice thing to say".

**Yes !! ... However ... This Would Be ... A "Close Association" In Your Understandings ... To Get The Point Across !! ... And It Is From A Perception/Viewpoint ... Of How They Were Treated !! ... More As Tools ... Not As Beings !! ... As This Is How ... "The Others" Saw Them !! ... However As These Beings Were Formed Of Enki's DNA ... They Were Not Only "Creations" ... But "Royal Creations" ... Royal From His Blood !! ... And He Felt ... No One Of Royalty ... Should Be Made To Work In The Mines !! ... So He (& Ninti) ... Went About In Secret ... To Do Something To Change This !! ... With Genetics/Alteration ... With Education ... To Which The "Mine Workers" Were So Inspired ... To Call (Due To Mining Conditions !!) ... A Wildcat Strike !! ... & This Set Up The First Instance (On Your Planet) ... Of Labor Relations & Workers Rights !!

Now you're saying that they were not going to be mindless slaves?

**Not If Enki & Ninti ... Had Anything To Say (Or Do) About It !!

Keep in mind I have read of your explanations of how these creations later became a branch of termed "homo sapiens". I just was a bit startled to see the word "mindless slaves" back on page 81. What was the reason for referring to them in such a way in this quote?

**Yes Indeed !! ... As Stated ... It Was ... "A Close Approximation" To Have You Understand ... That "The Others" Regarded These "Special Creations" (Which Were "Royal Creations") ... As Merely Labor Tools !!
... Genetically Engineered & Created ... To Take Away The Difficult/Brutal Task Of Mining In The Mines ... Taking These Hardships ... Away From The Anunnaki Miners !!

I would assume such creations that were specifically to work in the mines have a low enough level of awareness that they would not be suffering to do such a menial task,

**Yes ... However This Was What ... They Were Created To Do !! ... Emphasis On "Created" !! ... As Otherwise Of This "Special Creation" ... They Would Have Not Existed !!

and the energies animating them would be aware of the experience they would have upon animating the body.

**If These Energies ... Were On A High Enough Awareness !! ... Which They Were Moreso ... As Fleshy Automations ... From A Point Of View !! ... Only Given Enough Instructions .... To Carry Out Their Work Functions !!

Also, why did the annunaki need to mine gold if they had beings amongst them like Enki that could materialize things by pure thought?

**Do To The "Potency Factor" ... They Had To Obtain Gold & Other Metals/Minerals ... In A Raw & Unrefined State !!! ... Which Means ... For Their Uses ... They Had To Be Extracted .... From The Ground ... The Earth !! ... They Did Have "Units" ... A Hover Type Vehicle ... Which Could Extract Over Open Terrain ... Through A Beam Type Device !! ... However Such Vehicles ... Could Not Be Used Underground !! ... And While At That Time ... There Were Metals & Minerals In The Waters ... In The Oceans ... This Was Of Such A Diffused State ... And "Time Consuming"
... As To Not Be Tenable ... To Not Be Practical !!

Could he not just materialize gold for them?

**Yes ... Such Could Be Created ... But Not In The Way ... For Such Energies/Potencies ... That Were Needed !!! ... In The Raw State ... Certain Energies Are Still Present ... Still Potent !! ... In A Refined State ... The Potency Is Lessoned !! ... The Energies Are More Diffused !!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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