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ST was Arthur Pendragon

Truth was Sir Lancelot

Capitan was Merlin

Josh... I have 2 thoughts on the messages....

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In that Round yes..

But there have been many many more....


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you have knowledge of others that have already been taken off the surface?

**There Have Been Those ... That Have Already Left !!



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ST, do you mean those that already left cause their physical shell/body could no longer function cause of damage / death of physical form or those that left in 3rd density body form?

Thanks, Josh.
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The thrust of UFO research is into the metaphysical, where things are not always as they seem. In the case of the Grey abducting aliens, my judgment is this: they are diabolical and completely untrustworthy. I get a strong of sense of conspiracy by them--a vast, subversive plot of long duration and careful coordination which aims at nothing less than the complete enslavement of humanity. I see nothing--absolutely nothing--about their words and deeds which indicates anything but deceit, evasion, misdirection, manipulation, exploitation and total disregard for human values, personal property and our concept of respect for the inviolability of personhood. We humans consider kidnaping and violation of civil rights to be criminal, rape to be loathsome , brainwashing and mind control to be heinous, lying to be despicable, unauthorized surgical invasion of the body to be monstrous, and damage to personal property to be vandalism. The Grey aliens exhibit such behavior. On the other hand, I know of no behavior by them which is clearly intended to show respect for our personhood, property, civil rights, moral values and concern for truthful speech; they routinely violate all that. As I view the situation, it's a ghastly picture which emerges. It is not merely alien; it is profoundly evil in precisely the sense given in the Book of Revelation and other sacred scriptures which describe a battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness for the salvation or damnation of humanity and the planet. So when abducting aliens say, "We're here to serve you," I take it to mean they have have cookbook recipes in mind.

By John White.
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The thrust of UFO research is into the metaphysical, where things are not always as they seem. In the case of the Grey abducting aliens, my judgment is this: they are diabolical and completely untrustworthy. I get a strong of sense of conspiracy by them--a vast, subversive plot of long duration and careful coordination which aims at nothing less than the complete enslavement of humanity. I see nothing--absolutely nothing--about their words and deeds which indicates anything but deceit, evasion, misdirection, manipulation, exploitation and total disregard for human values, personal property and our concept of respect for the inviolability of personhood. We humans consider kidnaping and violation of civil rights to be criminal, rape to be loathsome , brainwashing and mind control to be heinous, lying to be despicable, unauthorized surgical invasion of the body to be monstrous, and damage to personal property to be vandalism. The Grey aliens exhibit such behavior. On the other hand, I know of no behavior by them which is clearly intended to show respect for our personhood, property, civil rights, moral values and concern for truthful speech; they routinely violate all that. As I view the situation, it's a ghastly picture which emerges. It is not merely alien; it is profoundly evil in precisely the sense given in the Book of Revelation and other sacred scriptures which describe a battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness for the salvation or damnation of humanity and the planet. So when abducting aliens say, "We're here to serve you," I take it to mean they have have cookbook recipes in mind.

By John White.
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Yes - this is the Promoted Propoganda

put out by TPTB to Confuse the Masses/Mundanes.

This Thread is about real Information

being brought Forth - not necessarily for

the Mundanes - but for Those who can

Recognize it.

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ST, since lake "Superior" is right north of wisconsin, have you seen any visions of that lake draining empty and if so i think were in trouble?

Is that the largest of the great lakes? cause i'm not sure if superior is or not, maybe it is cause it called superior, like superior to the others, hehehehe.

If superior rips through wisconsin it won't be a pretty sight and their may not even be a wisconsin left, but anyways do you have any thoughts on this?

Thanks again as always, Josh. hf
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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

No , the Silver Surfer is created fiction, your silly though.

**Is He ?? ... That Is Strange ... As I Have ... "Gone Out & About" With Him !! ... Enjoy Riding ... On The Cosmic (Surf) Board ... Flowing With The Energies Of Space !!

thanks for reading, and i added comments to this post,

**You Are Welcome !! ... Yes You Did !! ... This Was The Only Thing Though ... We Wished To Comment On !!

thanks for taking time

You Are Most Welcome !!
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**In Response To: Yolgnu ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Also Yolgnu i wish i could meet the conduit in person you know, but i don't think that will be allowed before the Earth changes cause ST one time said no don't come to Ohio cause of the changes that are to be.

**That Is True !! ... As You Would Not Be Safe There !!

ST visions and experiences are strange to me cause i never
experienced anything like that and is out of the ordinary from my perspective.

**Hmmm !!! ... Well At Moments ... It Can Be Strange ... For The Conduit !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Yolgnu i think the changes will occur during the school year as ST had visions of people from schools

**The Bowling Green Junior High School ... & Senior High School ... In ... Bowling Green, Ohio !!

getting loaded up on busses as with teachers as they try to evacuate the city/area.

**Attempting To Go To Higher Ground ... Of/Near ... Interstate 75 !!

and i think ST had visions of stadiums/football game so changes might be in the fall,

**Or During ... The "Football Season" !! ??

either this Nov or Dec and if not then prob during august to Dec. of 2009 i think.

**It Is Possible !!
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ST, how can you be so confident as to telling "Wispy" to
postpone here surgery?

**How ?? ... Very Easily !!

My brother says that he might not sit in jail for awhile till after his baby is born in February, cause of all the postponing that goes on with court dates and trial as he may want to take it to trial, what you think?

**Hmmmm !!!

For myself it may be until after the new year that i serve my jail time.

**Hmmmm !!

So by you telling wispy to postpone surgery that must mean you know something that we don't know ,

**We Feel ... It Is A WISE Decision !!

you must know something about the council and Anu

**We & Others ... ARE ... Of The Council !! ... Anu Is (Of The Enki Life/Lifetime ... & Of His Energies) ... My Father !!

and some visions you had/have that is telling you but you
can't share too much as to warn people to soon cause of set rules and regulations, what do you think?

**We Are Only Allowed To Talk Of/Talk About .. Certain Things !! ... Yes ... We Too Have To Abide By ... Certain Rules & Regulations ... Though We Are Apart From Those Restrictions ... Placed On Those ... On Terra/Earth !!

Thanks

You Are Most Welcome !!

and i hope to hear from you soon, as always

Yes Of Course !!

P.S. I hope your not too busy, hehehehe, later .....

**Quoting From Spock (Leonard Nimoy) ... In Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home ... "Uhura Is Busy ... I Am Monitoring !!" ... Hee Hee Heee !!
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 13081 ... With Our (ST In BG) Responses !! (**)

Also, of these three events 1) The Pole Shift 2) First Contact and 3) The Second Coming -which of these do you see happening at all and in what order?

**Depending Upon Perspective ... "First Contact" Had Happened Long Ago In Your Time Reference ... As We Have Always Worked With Volunteers In Our Projects !!

**The 2nd Coming Is In Relation To The Return Of Nibiru !! ... It Has No "Religious Implications" Such As "The Return Of Jesus" Or "Return Of The Lord" ... Which Are Terrestrial Misunderstandings/Non-Understandings
& Distortions !! ... *Who & What That Are Returning ... Is The Beings So Involved In Creating Life/Lifeforms On This World !!

**With The Passage Of Nibiru Through This Sun/Star System ... This Will Cause A Pole Shift To Terra/Earth

Finally, which of these two are going to vanish from existence first after the upcoming changes: 1)religion 2) money

*Both Will Vanish At The Same Moment !! ... As The Planet Will Be Cleansed & None Of These Things Will Exist !!

So ST, the first coming had to do with 2008 years ago

**No Josh !!! ... It Has To Do With ... Extraterrestrial Contact !!

but the second coming has to do with Nibiru,

**Yes ... With Nibiru ... The Return Of Nibiru ... The 1st Passage !!

well i don't understand why the first coming doesn't have nothing to do with Nibiru but the second coming does

**Because ... It Is ... Two Separate Thoughts !!

yes it talks about new heaven and new earth and such as Nibiru is capable of but they switched the meaning of the second coming to actually be Enki returning on Nibiru the home planet of Nibiru, what you think?

**The "2nd Coming" Means ... The Return Of Nibiru !!
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you have knowledge of others that have already been taken off the surface?

**Quoting: ST In BG:

**There Have Been Those ... That Have Already Left !!

ST, do you mean those that already left cause their physical shell/body could no longer function cause of damage / death of physical form or those that left in 3rd density body form?

**We Mean ... Of Those .. Who Have Already ... Of Various Means ... Of Which Their Energies ... That Animated The Body ... Have Left That Temporary Form/Shell !!
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ST, since lake "Superior" is right north of Wisconsin, have you seen any visions of that lake draining empty

**No ... Just The Impression Of This !! ... As We Did See ... The "Tipping Up" ... & The Waters From The Great Lakes ... Of This Area ... Specifically Lake Erie ... Overflowing ... & Heading South !!

and if so i think were in trouble?

**Yes ... We Would Think So !!

Is that the largest of the Great Lakes?

**Don't Know ?? ... It Is However Fed ... From Sources Realized ... & Not Realized !! ... Such As "Lake Erie" ... Being Fed ... From The Atlantic Ocean !!

cause i'm not sure if Superior is or not, maybe it is cause it called Superior, like Superior to the others, hehehehe.

**That Would Be ... A Trivial Matter !! ... Not Really Important !!

If Superior rips through Wisconsin it won't be a pretty sight

**Well ... If Damage & Destruction ... Lots Of Death ... Is Your Thing ... Then This Would Be ... Pretty Indeed !! ... To Most However ... This Is Not ... So Pretty !!

and their may not even be a Wisconsin left,

**At Least ... Not As You Have Known It !!

but anyways do you have any thoughts on this?

**As Stated !!

Thanks again as always,

You Are Very Welcome !!

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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The destroyer is the torrent of light expressed through the one who has sacrificed self to purge the Earth of the sin of attachment by the 'operators'/et 4d presence that has manipulated natural evolution of incarnate souls.

I highly doubt that makes any sense even to ST.

**You Are Correct !! ... It Does Not !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

Hi ST in BG, Conduit, Paschats and Team,

I hope all of you are as well as possible.

**Yes We Are !! ... Thank You !!

ST...in your travels and experiences of other worlds and
dimensions, is there another planet as lush and beautiful as Earth (Terra)?

**It Depends On ... What You Consider ... Is Beautiful !! ... There Are Many ... Beautiful Worlds ... Beautiful Areas !!

**One World The Conduit Has Been To ... To Rest ... Was A Former Home ... Now Re-Terraformed ... From "The Great War" Of ... The Ancestors Of Our Ancestors ... Which Is Been Changed ... Into A Garden/Parklike World Setting !! .... With Lots Of Trees, Forests, Waterfalls ... Birds ... Small Animals !! ... Places Were One Can Sit ... & Meditate ... Contemplate ... Rest/Relax .... Of Being Tired/Fatigued ... In Their Journey !! ... During The Day ... Is A Light Green Sky ... & At Night Toward Dusk ... The Sky Is Magenta/Fuschia ... That Turns Into Blue-Bluish Purple ... Purple ... Then Dark ... Of Which One Can See ... Billions & Billions Of Stars, Planets ... & Other Energies & Colors ... Most Clearly ... In The Night Sky !! ... Very Very Beautiful Indeed !!!

I really love The Earth and appreciate the beauty.... For example, on 3D....Venus does not appear beautiful..nor does Mars ...on/in a higher dimension, are they beautiful?

**It Is ... A Different Appreciation Of Beauty ... Of/In ... Higher Dimensions !!

Is there such a diversity as on Earth, with so many different plants, are there flowing liquids..like rivers...only..perhaps with other substances...??

**It Is ... All We Can ... Different ... Then What You Have There !!

You have told of your planet...with a green atmosphere..and
having pink clouds and sunsets..

**Yes ... We Have ... Of These Colors ... This Tinting !!

with multiple suns...

**Of Stars/Suns .... Moons .... Planets ... That Are ... By Seeing ... Nearby ... As If To Touch ... To Grasp/Feel !! ... To See Of Their Beauty !!

that does sound lovely..are there plants...too?

**Yes !!

The Earth seems so special.. I do hope that the cleansing happens soon..and that we all can get Earth back to her best form and health.

**Yes ... The Planet Does Need A "Health Cleansing" ... And Of The "New Earth" To Come ... It Will Be So !! ... Cleansed ... Healthy ... & Rearranged ... Waiting For Life ... To Begin Again ... On The Surface ... (With Help Provided In This !!)

I will be most happy to help with the planting..(also
hoping I have a few more abilities that would make it
physically easier than what I go through tending the garden now).

**You May Have ... This Opportunity !!

Well..thank you for everything..

You Are Very Welcome !!

Sincerely, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: ticket: User ID: 539830

Dear ST in BG

Thank you for your quick reply!

**You Are Most Welcome !!

But much is still left to be answered ...

**There Always Is !!

Quoting: ticket

"So please, *please* tell us what we don't know about the nuking of inhabited cities of long ago. Tell us all the details!! Let's together set the record straight."

**See Page # 610 ... ST In BG: User ID: 535601 11/3/2008 11:18 PM ... This Is A "Condensed Version" ... Of What Had Happened ... With ... Sodom & Gomorrah !!

Over to you, my friend.

Farewell For Now !!

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**In Response To: ticket 539830 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

The Conduit (ST In BG) has worked laboriously, for over 3 1/2 years, providing much Information on this Thread (and others) that has been Given by Many ET Beings.

**Yes ... We Have !!

I would suggest that since you are new to this Thread to start doing some Homework and read to get some idea of All that has already been provided.

**A Very Practical Suggestion !!

I created an Index of sorts 3 years ago that covered over 100 pages. From this one can get caught up on much of the Basics of Understanding of What Is Coming Forth.

**Yes Indeed They Can !!

The Index is located on several pages - one is on page 404 of this Thread.

**And Thank You As Always ... For Providing This Index !! ... Much Appreciated !!
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**In Response To: AM - RA - MA 547521 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Yes - this is the Promoted Propaganda

**Yes ... Of The "John White" Material ... Posted By: AM - RA - MA 547521 ... It Is ... Promoted Propaganda ... & As We See It ... Pure Garbage !!

put out by TPTB to Confuse the Masses/Mundanes.

**Yes Indeed !!

This Thread is about real Information

being brought Forth - not necessarily for

the Mundanes - but for Those who can

Recognize it.

**It Is Of ... & About ... Real & Truthful Information ... Which We Are Transmitting ... Through The Conduit ... Of Which Is Being Typed Out ... & Posted To This Thread ... & Elsewhere !!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

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**In Response To: ticket 539830 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Are you talking about Sodom & Gomorrah?

Look on page 610. The whole story.

**Thank You !! ... Well ... This Is ... A "Condensed Version" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Farewell For Now !!

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**In Response To: Silent Companion ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Thank you Silent C.

During things like this.. he sleeps so soundly that a bomb could not awaken him. I cannot get him to wake up. I think they do something to him so he cannot wake up until after.

**This Is True !! ... We Keep Him Asleep !!

((hugs))

I think I will wait until after the first of the year to
schedule anything. We will see. I think things are close.. which Is why I have waited these weeks. If I had gone ahead and pursued the items I had needed to go.. Surgery would have been Tuesday.. 11:11.. OOPS

**This Is We Feel ... A Most WISE Decision ... To Postpone !!!

Had no message Friday night. Last night twice.

First I saw the squares... which means something is coming

**The 1st Thought On This ... Was Squares ... Such As On A "Plat Map" !! ... Areas Of Land !! ... Another Though Was ... Of The Different Colored Squares Shown ... On The USGS Maps ... Of Earthquakes ... & Their Intensity ... & Day/Hour !!

and then I saw what appeared to be tributaries of Roads or rivers. They were not random circles.

**Perhaps Both !! ... As Oftentimes ... Well At Least Of Northwest Ohio ... Along The Maumee ... When The Conduit Looked At Maps Of That Area ... The Road Went Along ... The Path Of The River !! ... Following That Path ... That Trail !!

But it was too bright and I turned over and was tired and
fell asleep again.

**Hmmm !!!!

I woke up a second time and the same image appeared again. Only not so bright.

It looked like a map of roads.

**Which Could Very Well Be !!

One which looked like a circle seemed to me to be the I 40 I 65 I 24 loop around Nashville.

**A Central Focus Point ... Energy Point/Area ... "Hub" ... A Convergence Area !!

And the other lines maybe highways and roads..

**Yes ... This Is True !!

However it could have been rivers and streams since they seem to parallel any way.

**Or Both ... As We Stated !! ... As Here ... There Are Roads/Routes ... That Parallel ... Waterways ... Such As ... The Maumee (Ohio) River !! ... Of Ancient Paths ... Pathways !!

There was nothing moving.. But I got the impression from the map, that the source was oriented North to South. Like maybe something would be coming from the north

**Hmmmm !!!! ... Well Here ... Coming From "North To South" ... Is Of The Waters ... From The Great Lakes !! ... Specifically ... Of That From ... Lake Erie !! ... Which Will Be ... Flooding Through The City !!

That is all I can make of it. I fell asleep again.

OK ST.. do you have any clues?

**Yes ... We Included This Above !!
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**In Response To: Sasha/Josh ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Josh... I have 2 thoughts on the messages....

One.. They are sent to everyone and those who can see it...
relay it.

**Yes .... For Those That Are To Receive These Messages ... & To Report On These !!

Two. Enki could not tell Noah about the flood. But he told a bamboo screen.

**Yes We Did !!! ... Hee Hee Heee !!

Maybe these visions/messages are coming from behind the
bamboo screen...

**Well ... Over The Moments ... What You Would Call ... "The Stretch Of Time" ... We've Improved ... On The "Bamboo Screen" !! ... Now We Use A "Telestrator" !! ... One(s) Can See Things Much Better With This !! ... Has Many More "Advantages" ... And Doesn't Have Those ... "Bamboo Like Lines" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

because of the non-interference clause.

**Well ... Do To ... "Rules & Regulations" ... That We Need To Abide By ... Adhere To !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

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Thanks ST for your comments.


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**To Us ... Whether Recognized ... Believed Or Not !! ... Is That All Mountains .... Are In Effect Of Volcanoes/Volcanic Origins ...

+ But of course NOT... unless you get back enough in time and you claim everything is "volcanic",

**We Can Claim This ... As We Have Witnessed ... The Formation ... Of Your Planet ... In/Of Various Times/Stages ... Of Changes & Upheavals !! ... So
It Is Not An Untruth ... To Say ... That Everything Is "Volcanic" ... As It Does Have Directly Or Indirectly ... Of Volcanic Origins !!

which would be extremely unexplicative!

**No .... It Would State ... Of How Things Happened ... Of How They Formed !! ... As We Can & Have Witnessed This ... Of Our Ability To Journey ... To Record ... Of Living History !!

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++Here you missed my point to some degree... everything is "volcanic" if you go far enough toward its origins, at least it seems so when refering to large (500km and more) objects on the Solar system (all?)... and if you define "volcanic" as molten materials which project through a thickening crust. A crust is formed through the release of energy (and some mass) out of the object´s attractions. However, this is a rather unexplicative concept of volcanism, and differs from what (human) geologists understand for such a process...

why?

Because volcanism is undestood as an extrusion of material (often but not always molten) coming out from the inner/more energetic regions of a large object (+500 km) and just that... while the original solidification of the surface is not to be considered "volcanism" within this conception, and more over... transformed (originally volcanic or not volcanic) rocks through erosion and deposition (sedimentary), and through high compression and transformation, with later exposition to the surface (methamorphic) are not understood as volcanism.

Calling everything volcanic will lead to a high level of swampyness, as it explains actual processes, quite old ones.

++ So, it just depend on the concepts you are making your understandings and the degree of detail you are seeking.

++ Everything is not volcanic, for what we name volcanism, and at the same time... going back to its origins... many things were once molted... they once might be gas, plasma, energy... but that explains very little in relation to current Earth´s volcanotectonism. So, we clasify rocks.

++ And the volcanic structures and processes we know more about... occurs in finite, relatively efimeral moutains we call volcanoes (probably efimeral just in their upper appearance, but quite old in their underground structure). Still, this might not be the most relevant process when the crust is thick enough and the mass is large enough. Is it?

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hi ST,

who are these Men-in-Black, are they robots, are they evil?/....

**They Are Those ... That Operate More ... In Secret !! ... One Might Say ... Programmed Automations ... Androids Of A Kind !! ... They Are Not ...
Good ... Nor Are They Evil ... Which Does Not Apply !! ... However In Reports ... It Is Said ... Of Visits ... They Are Sent By "Others" To Intimidate/Warn/Threaten Them ... To Keep Them Quiet ... Of Things Seen ... Or Things ... That They Wish To Report !!
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"The thrust of UFO research is into the metaphysical, where
things are not always as they seem. ....

By John White."

**We Would Ask You ... NOT ... To Post "ET Propaganda" ... To The Thread !! ... This Thread Is (Primarily) ... To Answer Queries Put To Us ... Real ET Beings ... Who Are Aboard & Elsewhere ... In An Attempt To Inform & Educate ... Of Those Things ... Those Misunderstandings .... That Have Occurred !!

**It Is Also ... To Inform/Educate ... Of The Changes ... That Will Be (& Are) Occuring ... & Perhaps Of Issues "Off Topic" ... That May Or May Not Be Directly Connected To The Conduit ... But Has Relationship(s) ... To
The Main Topics Presented Here ... Which Would Be Of Interest ... Both To The Readers Of The Thread & The Conduit !!

**Note: .... This Does Not Include As Mentioned ... "ET Propaganda" ... Those Things Circulating Around The Internet ... That Are Contrived ... Only To Spread Fear & Hatred ... Misunderstandings ... Of ET Beings & Peoples
!!!

Farewell For Now !!

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So st, it is wise since the changes will most likely occur before may 2009 so that is good to postpone now as we don't have much linear time left?

You have said other things won't have to be worried about cause you thought the changes would be back in 2007 or early 2008, if wispy postpones surgury to far ahead and the changes don't arrive before the may of 2009 then she can go ahead with surgury correct? Thanks, Josh.
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Hi St in BG,

When i refered to the closeness/proach thing... while asking people to don´t give up in trying to make a better civilization, a sustainable one... and really protect and enhance what is left of biodiversity and ecosystem services... i though on most readers and participants in this thread live in the USA, the country which in many ways lead the world... and use more than 1/4 of its productivity and resources, pollute the most, overconsume the most and may bring the most of the potential intelligent/rational solutions to the current problems... of course, not in relation with ellusive possible overwhelming threats relating with natural cycles... so they may help less or more, but surely more than they think, even changing their daily lives in a small extent... everyone could help, but some could do quite more..... i just tried to rise awareness and call for people caring beyond the inmediate.

I don´t consider your/others potential (non human)... works (?), which are not publicly known for us... thus... quite ellusive... but, of course, thanks a lot if the case...

I will insist that whatever may threaten us in the future concerning the cycles... is an almost unbearable issue (group of issues)... wouldn´t the magnitude of the changes required to minimize the risks highly exceed the potential advantages? We had never planned even toward the finite volcanoes i referred before... i.e. Mt. Soma destroyed Pompeii and Herculanum, and nevertheless Herculanum was repopulated and Naples has grown over several volcanoes... and tourist converges within Vesubius... this is but an example, there are plenty of them all around... related to known volcanoes. How much would there be relating to unkown ones? And we just know about the continental surface!

In this moment i´m looking several of them through my own window, i´m actually but at a few miles of a crater, and there are whole towns over the very volcanoes all around this city... and what you expect me to do about? What you expect the millions living here and in other similar places to do? Could there be a sane/rational/illustrative way to cope with such potential threats? Really? Any suggestions?

It´s so ironic, volcanoes give so much destruction and creation, dead and life... ultimately they bring change, Earth would be probably lifeless without volcanoes, without being alive itself... in some ways...


Regarding your vision or prediction, whatever, towards california... well, i would certainly prefer to live here over this volcanic belt, thousands of feet above sea level and hundred of km away from the sea... than moving there... it has been emerged for a very long time and again... you cann´t plan on what you cann´t forecast/predict/determine... but... it seems it´s getting a bit more shaky all around, the globe... how much? I don´t know, of course.
The Baja Peninsula is part of the same area and it has been emerged and submerged, partially, through its history, after its spreading away from the main land. It may or may not change any time soon.... all is relative. The point is.... what could be done??? Pointless?
You said it already.

I happen to love a lot the sea, should i make myself unhappy stopping my future (potential) travels? But of course not, i would prefer not to live there, but i will further travel there... for what we know so far the risks are very very very very very very very low... or more exactly... the timing is extremely unlikely to be proach...

...or perhaps not... but what would be the point?

How do you live sure enough on the surface of Earth??? How would it be living to reside beneath the surface or in a specially created bubble wherever it is? How would such lives may potentially be in comparison?

All is relative, isn´t it?

there are challenges that can be faced and are well known, let´s do the best we can regarding them...
and also learn further, indeed.

Best hopes for a better world,
S. who C.

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That Everything Is "Volcanic" ... As It Does Have Directly Or Indirectly ... Of Volcanic Origins !!
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Indeed... but the processes are more detailed, and the details are much more sublime... and it remains limited.
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Indeed... but the processes are more detailed, and the details are much more sublime... and it remains limited.
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Knowledge remains so... pointless? Unwise? hmmmmm?
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Thanks ST, for cheking out the posts regarding the Mayan underground complex and bringing interest to this and others amazing issues. S. who C.
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So ST, it is wise since the changes will most likely occur
before May 2009 so that is good to postpone now as we don't have much linear time left?

**The Thought Of "Postponing" Given Recently ... Was In Regard To ... "NightWisp" ... & Her Knee Surgery !! ... So Other Then Of This Thought ... Of "Other Applications" ... You Will Have To Make These Decisions/Choices !!

You have said other things won't have to be worried about cause you thought the changes would be back in 2007 or early 2008, if wispy postpones surgery too far ahead and the changes don't arrive before the May of 2009 then she can go ahead with surgery correct?

**Not Necessarily !!

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You Are Very Welcome !!

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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The Sun Shows Signs of Life :o)

[link to science.nasa.gov]

:o)

Are you Ready...!

**As "Ready" ... As We Ever Will Be !! ... Question Is ... Of Your "Hotspot(s)" There ... Are You Ready ???

**Here ... The Stage Is Set ... The Lights Are Lit ... The Cameras (Installed/Being Installed) ... Now It Is "Time" ... For The Action !! ... Hearing ... Could Give A New Meaning To ... "Ash Wednesday" !!

Yolgnu.

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi ST in BG,

When i referred to the closeness/proach thing... while asking people to don´t give up in trying to make a better civilization, a sustainable one... and really protect and enhance what is left of biodiversity and ecosystem services... i though on most readers and participants in this thread live in the USA, the country which in many ways
lead the world... and use more than 1/4 of its productivity and resources, pollute the most, overconsume the most and may bring the most of the potential intelligent/rational solutions to the current problems... of course, not in relation with elusive possible overwhelming threats relating with natural cycles... so they may help less or more, but surely more than
they think, even changing their daily lives in a small extent... everyone could help, but some could do quite more.....

i just tried to rise awareness and call for people caring beyond the immediate.

**Yes ... You Are Trying ... But Again ... You Are Basing This ... "Awareness" ... On Your Impressions ... Of What "Lies Down The Road" !! ... Granted That Individuals Should Do Their Part ... To Hold Things Together ... Until It Is "Time" !! ... Though They Are As We Said ...
"Limited" ... In What They Can Do ... What They Are Able To Do !! ... And Of This ... Of All The Things Around Them ... This Will Change ... Their "Reality" Will Change .. & Most Abruptly We Would Think !! ... And All These Things ... All Their Problems That Exist ... Will Not Matter !!

I don´t consider your/others potential (non human)... works (?), which are not publicly known for us... thus... quite elusive... but, of course, thanks a lot if the case...

**You Are Welcome !! ... We Rarely Receive Any Recognition ... For "Holding Your Planet Together" !! ... For What We Have Done ... & What We Continue To Do ... So You Can ... Exist In Those Bodies ... A Little While Longer !!

I will insist that whatever may threaten us in the future
concerning the cycles... is an almost unbearable issue (group of issues)... wouldn´t the magnitude of the changes required to minimize the risks highly exceed the potential advantages?

**It Would Be ... Of Issues Of Conjecture !! ... We Would Think It Would ... However ... There Are Others ... Who Would Disagree !! ... Still ... We Would ... & Will Do Our Part ... To Help Out ... Wherever ... & Whenever We Can !!

We had never planned even toward the finite volcanoes i referred before

**Oh There Is ... "Token Planning" !! ... But Many Have The Simple Attitude ... It Won't Happen In My Lifetime !! ... Or If It Did ... I Would Have Time
To Get Out ... To Get To Shelter ... To Escape !! ... That Is ... If They Have Sufficient Warning !! ... & Even That ... Is Not Guaranteed !!! .... So That Type Of "Belief" ... Is Really ... Living On The Edge !! ... A Fools Belief !! ... Still There Are Those ... That "Camp" At The Bottom Of Known Mountains/Volcanoes ... For The "Scenic View" !! ... & There Are Those Also ... That Just LOVE ... Those Tourist Dollars ... Flowing Into Their Communities !!! ... Fools All !!!

... i.e. Mt. Soma destroyed Pompeii and Herculaneum, and nevertheless Herculaneum was repopulated and Naples has
grown over several volcanoes... and tourist converges within (Mt.) Vesuvius...

**Yes ... These Things Have Happened ... & The "Tourists" Keep Coming Back ... Living Life ... On The Edge !!

this is but an example, there are plenty of them all around... related to known volcanoes. How much would there be relating to unknown ones? And we just know about the continental surface!

**Oh Indeed !!! ... Related To "Known Volcanoes/Hot Spots" !! .... And Yes ... How About The Ones ... That Are Unknown ?? ... And Ones ... Say For Instance ... Below The Waters !! ... Of Which Have Not Been Mapped ... Or Of These Infomations ... Not Released For Public Study !!

In this moment i´m looking several of them through my own
window, i´m actually but at a few miles of a crater, and there are whole towns over the very volcanoes all around this city... and what you expect me to do about?

**Well ... Practically Speaking ... There Is Very Little ... You Can ... Do About It !! ... Other Then ... Not Be There !! ... But Then Again ... Leave There ... & You Would Be ... Running Into ... Other Situations ... That
Will Surface ... That Will Arise !! ... That You Would ... Have To Face !!

What you expect the millions living here and in other similar places to do? Could there be a sane/rational/illustrative way to cope with such potential threats? Really? Any suggestions?

**Nothing One Could Really Do !! ... Other Then ... Not Be There !! ... The Surface Will Be ... Well ... Recreated !! ... Then Flash Frozen ... Most Instantly !! ... So The Only Truly Safe Areas ... Would Be Underground ... To Live With Your "Planetary Neighbors" ... Who Know How To Deal With These Changes ... Survive Them !! ... *Of Those Who Have Built ... "Underground Shelters" ... Just For Their & Certain "Elite Survival" ... They Will Die ... Be Buried Alive !! ... Such Will Be Their Tombs !!! .... Now The Other Choice Would Be ... To Be Out In Space !!

It´s so ironic, volcanoes give so much destruction and creation, dead and life... ultimately they bring change, Earth would be probably lifeless without volcanoes, without being alive itself... in some ways...

**Yes ... Such Has ... Ironic Twists !! ... A Life Giver ... & A Life Taker !!

Regarding your vision or prediction, whatever, towards
California... well, i would certainly prefer to live here over this volcanic belt, thousands of feet above sea level and hundred of km away from the sea... than moving there... it has been emerged for a very long time and
again... you can't plan on what you can't forecast/predict/determine... but... it seems it´s getting a bit more shaky all around, the globe... how much? I don´t know, of course.

**Yes We Understand !! ... And Here It Seems ... Of Bowling Green, Ohio ... For The Conduit ... Is Where He Is To Be !! ... Of The Changes That Are To Occur Here !!

The Baja Peninsula is part of the same area and it has been
emerged and submerged, partially, through its history, after its spreading away from the main land. It may or may not change any time soon.... all is relative. The point is.... what could be done??? Pointless? You said it already.

**Yes ... As To What Could Be Done ?? ... Not Much !! ... And Such Energies In The Attempt ... Would Be Better Spent ... Towards Preparation (At Least Temporary !!) ... For One(s) & Their Loved Ones ... Survival !! ... If
"Temporary Survival" ... Is What One Chooses !!

I happen to love a lot the sea,

**Well ... You Had Lives/Lifetimes On ... Aztlan & Mu ... So This Is ... As One Might Say ... In Your Blood !! ... Oh Yes ... Was Just Told ... Died In Crete ... Suffocated In The Ash Fallout ... Of That Time !! ... So These Are All ... Seafaring Peoples !!

should i make myself unhappy stopping my future (potential) travels?

**This Would Be Your Choice !!

But of course not, i would prefer not to live there, but i will further travel there... for what we know so far the risks are very very very very very very very low... or more
exactly... the timing is extremely unlikely to be proach...
...or perhaps not... but what would be the point?

**Yes Of Course ... Understandable !!

How do you live sure enough on the surface of Earth??? How would it be living to reside beneath the surface

**Of The Lifetime That The Conduit Has/Had ... On The Apex World/"Apexia" ... When It's Sun/Star Changed ... Into The Red Phase ... A Red Dwarf Sun/Star ... Life ... Living Below The Surface ... In What Might Be Termed ... An "Underground Apartment" ... Was Quite Different ... & Had It's ... Interesting Aspects !!!

or in a specially created bubble wherever it is?

**Done This Too !! ... Living In ... Such A ... Well Bubble/Bubble Community ... Beneath The Waters !! ... Most Fascinating !!!

How would such lives may potentially be in comparison?

**The Lives ... Would Be ... Well ... Different !! ... There Really Could Be ... No Comparison !! ... As Each Was/Is ... A Separate Experience !!

All is relative, isn´t it?

**Well ... Related In A Way ... As To Living ... But The
Conditions/Environments ... Are Different From One Another !! ... & The Difficulties ... & Challenges ... For Ones Survival ... One Might Say ... Are As ... Equal ... To The Rewards !!

there are challenges that can be faced and are well known, let´s do the best we can regarding them... and also learn further, indeed.

**Yes ... To Do One's Best ... Of These Things !! .... And To Continue To Learn ... & To Understand !!
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"That Everything Is "Volcanic" ... As It Does Have Directly Or Indirectly ... Of Volcanic Origins !!"

Indeed... but the processes are more detailed, and the details are much more sublime... and it remains limited.

**Quite So !!

Knowledge remains so... pointless? Unwise? hmmmmm?

**OH No !!! ... But Knowledge Misapplied ... Without Full Knowledge ... Without Wisdom ... Is Most Dangerous !!!
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Thanks ST, for checking out the posts regarding the Mayan
underground complex and bringing interest to this and others amazing issues.

**You Are Very Welcome !! ... Well ... One Might Say ... We Have ... "Sailed Together Before" !! ... Both Having ... Lives/Lifetimes ... Of Mu, Aztlan ... Perhaps Both Too ... Of Crete ... Of Such Ancient ... Seafaring Peoples !!

Best hopes for a better world,

Indeed !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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WOW,

close to 700 pages - what is this about?
I don't get it

What questions do I ask?
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WOW,

close to 700 pages - what is this about?
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Hello My unknown friend, this thread holds lots of ideas/thoughts that may change your reality forever, this is and may be to much for one to handle, i've questioned st in bg many times and st seems very legit, its a whole-nother world. Many things stated here are not for the weak minded individual who takes life and the way of things for granted and who believes everything or most of what the governments and the religious and education system employs , this is a whole-nother ball game my friend so be wise and research you will find the life that you know of could be very different than how things actually work/ actually are, take care, Josh. hf
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ST, in wisconsin anyways the last 7 or so winters during november and december have been mild and warm , now it seems like were getting the cold earlier this year and last year also seemed to be colder again like 10 years ago, it is currently 14 degrees ferenhight out, so i'm wondering how come were getting our cold back cause it seems to me like these may just be weather patterns over the course of every 10 years or so the weather is back in its old pattern again, can you explain to me what is happening?

Back to rain and snow in november again, and for the last several years previous it would be very warm and not get cold or good snow fall untill end of december or beginning of january , are we back in our old pattern or what is actually causing this and why is this happening like this?

Thanks, Josh. hf
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Also ST, its going to be snowy next couple of days and in the 40's 30's and 20's for the highs the next 10 days with low's getting into the low 20's , mid 20's and some 30's and in the teens in ferenghight temperature, weather back to like it was 10 or so years ago, please explain, thanks, Josh. hf
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ST, like mom just said its suppose to be cold in winter , weather i said back to like 10 years ago, but said its suppose to be cold in november, as mom and dad are early risers, hehehe.... Like weather is fine to them and nothing to worry about, life going on as usual in their eyes, what do you think?

also , you said oh if you like doom and destruction their will be lots of it, well st its not that i like doom and destruction i just want this difficult world and experience to change for the better.

you st/conduit must like doom/destruction as you keep giving your doomy visions to share with us, and you watch the deep impact movie , you also must like doom/death and destruction as you share your experiences for us, you must really like the shock and awe of your visions.

also you stated giving a new meaning for ash wednesday as when volcanoes errupt and spew their ash, well could you share what ash wednesday really means and where it originated, pretty please with a cherry on top mmmmmmmmm, hehehehe? Farewell my friend, bff, best friends forever, take care bud, Josh.

P.S. i love communicating with such friendly beings.