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Merry Nibirumas All!!

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Merry Nibirumas?? Well the passage didnt happen before christmas 2008, do you think its that close Truth2? Why call it nibirumas? I mean its just unusual its taking this long to progress since their is enuff done that qualifies that this event (passage) should have happened already. Well take care, Josh. hf hf
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One of the "stars" in the sky during the Birth of the real

Apollonius of Tyana was Nibiru!! Thus, my reference to

"Nibirumas".


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Happy Christmas After....(aka Boxing Day)

Hello Truth2. Wondered where you have been. Hey Acolyte. Josh. Don't worry about what peeps say. What does it matter what your Bro's opinion is? What is.. is...Family is for gathering around when times are tuff.Helps survival.. ya know.

AND NOW...ST

For the latest Doom ...

This morning 4:40-4:44.

Picture it. Limestome like area with large cracks. ( faultlines?)

Then the scene changes to eroded limestone channels, with pillars and outcrops. ( Perhaps a cross section of lava tube/ cave/ fault line systems).

Then fluid material ( water/magma) with I think is magma.. starts filling the channels and and moves into networks of channels. Constantly mnoving in a line to fill and move outward.

Last the screen turned black for a bit. Darkness?

Then it lightened back up. Nothing happening. Everything still. ( Earth quits turning? )

Then signed off with the usual fade out. ( someone picked up the transparency off the overhead projector) hehe...

Merry Christmas-after ST.

((hugs))

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P.S. ST

OK.. OK.. (I thought a Long walker was a land walker like in star wars).. Duh..I am blonde.

Anyway. So.. What do they do besides walk along with big steps? Why do people talk about them? Of course.. I never understood what they were. Are they new arrivals? Have they always been here? What is their significance? Are they Friend or Foe? Do they have a job/function here?

Ok Ok I am curious.

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OK. Intresting one for you. I live in a hotel at present. In a coverted garage adjoined to the building a heroin addict is living. It is technically a room in this hotel. The manager's brother is a down and out who is friends with the heroin addict and wants him to stay. However, it seems the heroin addict has threatened to kill the manager and one or both of his sons if they attempt to evict him. They want to evict him. I know for a fact the heroin addict has not paid any rent for over six months. Therefore he clearly has something over the manager and his sons here. They have plenty of money but cannot get rid of him for fear of reprisals even using various laws. The heroin addict is known to the police but they, of course, need money from heroin addicts like him to fund their various prostitute rings etc. (Which is why we're in Afganistan)

How do they get rid of him without breaking the law - which appears to be the only option. Thanks in advance.
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OK. Intresting one for you. I live in a hotel at present. In a coverted garage adjoined to the building a heroin addict is living. It is technically a room in this hotel. The manager's brother is a down and out who is friends with the heroin addict and wants him to stay. However, it seems the heroin addict has threatened to kill the manager and one or both of his sons if they attempt to evict him. They want to evict him. I know for a fact the heroin addict has not paid any rent for over six months. Therefore he clearly has something over the manager and his sons here. They have plenty of money but cannot get rid of him for fear of reprisals even using various laws. The heroin addict is known to the police but they, of course, need money from heroin addicts like him to fund their various prostitute rings etc. (Which is why we're in Afganistan)

How do they get rid of him without breaking the law - which appears to be the only option. Thanks in advance.
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If the Elder would claim their Home,
They could say:
How do we get rid of those, who pollute this Home.
Who are drunken by Ignorance, hypnotized by conditioning, they do sleep...
a behavior much alike as a drug addict !
So most of Humankind could be kicked out,
of that place, they claim their possession,
their home ! Their claimed property.

And if They wouldn't claim it,
the 'Red Face' people could claim their ground, maybe there were this Hotel is placed!
You took it from them ! And made Your rules,
which they did not accept ! Stolen land, made legal by Your laws only.
Forgotten in time. Reversed to normal, legal.

To make a good decision,
maybe they should swap their life with the drug addict,
so the drug addict could manage the Hotel,
the manager and sons can live in the garage.
So how would they react, if the drug addict,
would kick them out, to the street... at winter ?

Bring some light in the life of the poor,
especially when You have plenty of money,
which gives You the responsibility to take
care for those who have less. Including drug addicts.

But their 'Hearts' are of stone,
so I wouldn't worry,
soon You will have both no home
but only Your Soul body to look into.
And maybe the manager and sons,
will have less as a garage to live.
To learn them, the left hand can not
without the right hand to catch a big
red :-)) ball.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur
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Hi ST

Are fish people real?

Thanks
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Thanks for replying...
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love on a train [link to www.youtube.com]
take our hearts outside... [link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
scalar weapons book - 'Fer de Lance' by Tom Bearden. See his 300MB website at www.cheniere.org
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ST, i understand how your conduit body is warn out and tired from the elements at his late 40's , i Josh feel more sore than i did at a younger teenager age, so i wish not to grow much older as i don't wish my body to break down and ware out do to older terestrial age, i hope this passage will happen for sure before atleast 35 years of age, as my body is not as flexible as it once was.

ST also i know that our society would frown upon such attration to much younger women, so in your zeta reticulan society , how does society look at attraction to much younger beings, or think about having many ladies with 1 man or many men with 1 lady, i know all this gets frowned upon in our society as disgusting and whorish and inapropriate behavior , is this accepted in 4th dimensional bodies and other creations as acceptable and not frowned upon?

Thanks my friend and hope to hear from you soon, Josh. hf hf
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Greetings: Truth2: User ID: 1544


**Thank You My Friend !! ... Oh And I Didn't (Forgot To !!) Say Thank You
... For Your Kind Comments & Support Of The "Visions" I Have Been Having !!
... Not Many Are Posting Their Comments On These ... But I Would Say There Have Been Many Taking A Look !! ... *I Think In The Way These Are Given ... That Of Most ... (Except Perhaps For The St. Louis, Missouri Earthquake) ... There Is No Date/Date !! ... Only That This/These Things ... Disasters Are Imminent !! ... *And Maybe (To Some Extent ??) Can Be Avoided Or
Altered !! .. That Is Why I Think/Feel That These Are All Warnings !! ...
To Take Heed ... To Take Notice !!

**Oh Please Feel Free To Post These "Visions" To The "Prophecy Site" ... Of Which This Information Might Help Others ... In The Times Ahead !! ... The Times To Come !!



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So some extent st, your stating that the changes maybe to some extent can be avoided or altered, so humanity has possibility not to become extinct or this world 3rd density may have a chance NOT to go completely void of Life? Take care, Josh. hf
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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

Yeah and Josh when was the last time you went to church, i don't know i said, what does Christmas mean to you, means giving and receiving gifts, sharing and caring about others, oh it means Jesus was born this time of year, oh wasn't that in April i jokingly said, as i thought the story went on like that but made a mistake i guess as he died in April i think, he said no Jesus was born on Dec. 25th my brother in law was saying. Who happens to
be married to my older sister and is 43 himself with friends and family around as we celebrate Christmas eve like every year , gifts for the little ones and a Christmas eve dinner along with some games we played tonight.

Earlier Brenda , my aunt was telling jokes and stories and was stating how John Lennon died by 6 gun shots 2 days after he said how the Beatles are bigger than GOD and other stories about GOD causing certain someone's death or accident by car crash or other for mocking or blaspheming, well ST is it not right for someones to giggle and smirk a
little laugh when someone says stuff like that, or when someones says about Jesus and OR God and other people kind of giggle at the statements and ones telling it must not like it, as they may sense you are mocking the holy
ghost or the religions and you will be punished, what do you think ST?

**This Is Of "Terrestrial Issues" ... Which The Conduit & Ourselves ... Do Not Get Involved In !!
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"And Rather Of His Choice ... Would Continue On ... To Watch ... The Mini Series ... The Martian Chronicles !!"

What do you like most about The Martian Chronicles?

**Of That This Mini Series ... Is Wonderfully Done !! ... And Is A Great Teacher/Instructor !!

Well i think its a older gregorian mini series, i may be wrong, but what is it that you learn from watching?

**It Is Of "Your Way" ... Older ... But Then ... Most Modern Also !!

**What Is It ... That One Learns ?? ... When One Experiences This ... Watches This ... Then You Will Understand !!

You know i am a curious being, its in my nature, hehehehe,
anyways i sure i hope were close.

**Yes ... You Are Curious !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Well Feb 4th is roughly the time of the plea hearing although it may be off depending on court scheduling as my lawyer will send a letter confirming which date it will be and 30 day's from the court day have to report, which if Feb. 4th , then around march 4th have to report and 57
day's later would be around May 1st or so to get out, well if your calculations are accurate whatsoever the first passage will have occurred well before may 1st 2009, yipee, wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, but i'm not holding my breath cause i would choke off the air supply and pass out and die even before Nibiru's first passage, heheheheeee....

**You Will Know ... When It Is ... To Happen !!

Take care silly friend , Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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How we know their won't be more successive Generations that will have to suffer and die by the millions?

**That Which Has Happened ... Has Passed !! ... Things To Occur ... Will Be Far Different !!

Also how do you know for sure that this same flaw won't occur again in the new creations/new bodies that will have flaws once again not known about and have jealousies and passions to kill/murder?

**We Know Josh !!

Thanks

**You Are Very Welcome !!

and you have a great December 25th however you wish you
do with the day conduit, watch some movies or go aboard ship or whatever you decide to do , be safe and happy,

**Yes Of Course !! .... May You Also !!
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So some extent ST, your stating that the changes maybe to some extent can be avoided or altered, so humanity has possibility not to become extinct or this world 3rd density may have a chance NOT to go completely void of Life?

**No Josh !!

take care,

You Too !!

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: acolyte: Beyond The Rubicon

Hello ST In BG and everyone here :)

A FORUM TO SPEAK YOUR MIND

[link to speakyourmind.co.za]

Farewell For Now !!

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Merry Nibirumas All!!

**And To All ... A Doommmmmmmmy Night !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

**In Response To: Truth2 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Quoting: Truth2 512476

"Merry Nibirumas All !!"

Merry Nibirumas??

**But Of Course !!

Well the passage didn't happen before Christmas 2008,

**It Was Not Supposed To !!

do you think its that close Truth2?

**It's Closing In Josh !!

Why call it Nibirumas?

**Why Not ???

I mean its just unusual its taking this long to progress since their is enuff done that qualifies that this event (passage) should have happened already.

**Well ... It Does ... As It Does Josh !!

Well take care,

**One Trip Around The Block !! ... Then "Care" ... Has To Come In !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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**In Response To Sasha/Josh ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Quoting: sasha 190758

"Merry Nibirumas?? Well the passage didn't happen before Christmas 2008, do you think its that close Truth2? Why call it Nibirumas? I mean its just unusual its taking this long to progress since their is enuff done that qualifies that this event (passage) should have happened already. Well take care, Josh."

One of the "Stars" in the sky during the Birth of the real
Apollonius of Tyana was Nibiru!!

Thus, my reference to "Nibirumas".

**Exactly !!!! ... & Thank You !!!!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

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Happy Christmas After....(aka Boxing Day)

**Hmmm !!! ... A Day In Celebration ... For Boxing ?? ... For Packing/Packaging ?? ... An Interesting Celebration !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

AND NOW...ST

For the latest Doom ...

**Oh Yes Indeedy !!! ... We Are Ready !!!! ... Doooooooooooommmm It On Us !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

This morning 4:40-4:44.

Picture it. Limestone like area with large cracks. (
faultlines?)

**Hmmmm !! ... Well That Would Describe "Supposedly" ... Of Our Areas !!!

Then the scene changes to eroded limestone channels, with
pillars and outcrops. (Perhaps a cross section of lava tube/ cave/ fault line systems).

**Very Interesting !!!

Then fluid material (water/magma) with I think is magma..
starts filling the channels and and moves into networks of channels. Constantly moving in a line to fill and move outward.

**Hmmmm !!!!

Last the screen turned black for a bit. Darkness?

**That Is Very Very Possible !!!

Then it lightened back up. Nothing happening. Everything still. (Earth quits turning? )

**Oh Indeed !!!

Then signed off with the usual fade out. ( someone picked up the transparency off the overhead projector) hehe...

**Oh The Usual Fade Out ... Someone Picked Up The Transparency ... Off The "Overhead Projector" !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!

Merry Christmas-after ST.

**Thank You Very Kindly !!
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OK.. Long of land walker like in star wars)..

**Well Don't Know "Star Wars" ... But We Would Say ... Having Longer Legs ... They Would Have ... A Longer Stride !!

Duh..I am blonde.

**You Are ???

Anyway. So.. What do they do besides walk along with big steps?

**Well ... They Can Whistle !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Why do people talk about them?

**Well ... They Must Have Peeked An Interest ... Somewhere ... Somehow ???

Of course.. I never understood what they were.

**Actually ... They Are Not Sure Themselves !!

Are they new arrivals?

Have they always been here?

**Kind Of ... A Bit Of Both !!

What is their significance? Are they Friend or Foe?

**Well Lets See ... They Are Substantial ... They Exist !! ... Neither Friend Or Foe ... As They Do Not Think ... In "Fractional Energy Components" ... They Simply ... Are As They Are !!

Do they have a job/function here?

**Yes ... They Have Those Things That They Do !!

Ok Ok I am curious.

**But Of Course You Are !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

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OK. Interesting one for you. I live in a hotel at present. In a converted garage adjoined to the building a heroin addict is living. It is technically a room in this hotel. The manager's brother is a down and out who is friends with the heroin addict and wants him to stay. However, it
seems the heroin addict has threatened to kill the manager and one or both of his sons if they attempt to evict him. They want to evict him. I know for a fact the heroin addict has not paid any rent for over six months.
Therefore he clearly has something over the manager and his sons here. They have plenty of money but cannot get rid of him for fear of reprisals even using various laws. The heroin addict is known to the police but they, of
course, need money from heroin addicts like him to fund their various prostitute rings etc. (Which is why we're in Afghanistan)

How do they get rid of him without breaking the law - which
appears to be the only option. Thanks in advance.

**This Is A "Terrestrial Issue" ... Which We Do Not Become Involved In !! ... And Of Which ... You Need To Solve !! ... We Cannot Offer In This ... Of Our Advice !!

Farewell For Now !!

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this thread is about josh's personal life now...
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Hi ST

Are fish people real?

**They Are ... If You "Reel" One In !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Thanks

You Are Most Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST..

Yup.. Boxing Day.



Is when the Lord of the Manor gave boxes of food and goodies to the villagers and people who worked for him.
English Custom I believe.. also Canada.

A part of the long walker part was missing. I said that I thought long walkers were like the big walking land machines in Star Wars.

Anyway.. Would tey eat us? Someone said they were cannibalistic.

About the fish people. The are mentioned by the Dogon tribes of Africa. Tey supposedly are from Sirius B and are called Nommos ( or something like that). AC can google Dogon and Sirius B.

[link to unmuseum.mus.pa.us]
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Greetings ST..

Yup.. Boxing Day.

**And No "Wrapping Paper Day" ... Or ... "Adhesive Tape Day" !! ... Sheesh !!! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

Is when the Lord of the Manor gave boxes of food and goodies to the villagers and people who worked for him.

**Oh We See !!

English Custom I believe.. also Canada.

**Hmmmm !!!

A part of the long walker part was missing. I said that I
thought long walkers were like the big walking land machines in Star Wars.

**Well ... Nothing Like That !!

Anyway.. Would they eat us? Someone said they were cannibalistic.

**No ... They Only Eat ... The Contents Of The Cans !! ...(After They Open Them Of Course !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!) ... The Cans They Leave ... For Those That Gain Sustenance & Nutrition ... From Digesting Metals !! .... Hee Hee
Hee !!

About the fish people. They are mentioned by the Dogon tribes of Africa. They supposedly are from Sirius B
and are called Nommos (or something like that).

**There Is Something Of This ... That We Read !!

AC can google Dogon and Sirius B.

**Yes Of Course !!

The Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B

[link to unmuseum.mus.pa.us]

Farewell For Now !!

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Happy new year and&or every celebration&holidays for everyone there... i had got a gift to tell you about my mistaken... or misinterpreted... information concerning the following communications>

The Sun appears just where it is expected to appear at least as measured with noon angles of incidence! I make a misinterpretation with the expected angle gived the latitude... i was tired then i realized my mistake later on that night or the following morning... so happy newa... it seems there is not such a "hard evidence"... its funny and somewhat relaxing to laugh at oneself he he he he heeee

I will explain for you this nonissue of course :)

ST, can you be less "criptic", i understand that you are not applauding at this supposed hard evidence, nevertheless you do not correct the misinterpretation hey! Swampyiest :)

Thanks, i will quote on your comments later.

Best hopes for a better world:)
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Hi Wispy and everyone... it seems that the Sun is not on an
unexpected position. As far as i had measured the angles are as expected for this time of the year. Nothing unusual. However that link is interesting, as there might be some atmospheric diffraction in some latitudes/places. The Moon movement is much complex for trying to track it, i doubt that any has changed but might have a try on that ; )

HI EVERYONE THERE,

I AM SO SORRY TO INFORM YOU THAT I WAS WRONG WITH MY ABOVE POST, i had make new and more accurate measurements because of the doubts... and my older measurements being so many months old... and YOU WERE/ARE RIGHT:

The apparent position of the Sun in the horizon is about 4° +- 0.5° northern than it should be by now. It is so weird.

Perhaps it is to happen (what ST is talking about)...

**Perhaps So ???

and this winter would be easily longer (and not just colder) than normal as it has not yet started... it seems that the solstice has not come yet! Really weird, i´m so surprised... i must check again on the next days and weeks.

BTW, thanks ST for your communications and the thread, now i had got a glance on another weird idea that is actually a most impressive fact, indeed a hard proof for something being WEIRD... really mind blogging weird... you might be sadly right... isn´t it?

**Well ... What Can We Say ?? ... Weird Is Us !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Why didn´t you refer this as what it is... a hard obvious evidence of astronomical change?

**One Of The Reasons For Teaching ... Is To Allow The Students ... The Wow !!! ... The Joy Of Discovering ... & Learning !!

If this continues the weather conditions would make it impossible to hidden the changes by April or May at most, as the northern hemisphere winter could extend in an unseasonal pattern... if it continues so... WEIRD. Amazingly WEIRD.

**Yes !! ... It Is ... Isn't It !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I am surprised and somewhat sad... i expected all this to be a large exaggeration but it might not be such, perhaps... you might be right after all... it´s so sad.

**It Is ... The Way Of Things !! ... It Is ... How It Is To Be !!

All is relative, perhaps you are not exactly...
right, perhaps.

**Then Again ...

Can you believe it? 4° lat change going unnoticed! It´s so
weird... people, i think it would be wise to not give too much logs to the fire... keep this in small selected circles, think... oh, it is sooooo weird. So weird. Better not shout out about this, let´s just observe carefully...

**We Can ... Believe It !!

Observe carefully and think even more carefully people ; )

**You Are Learning !! ... We Are Pleased !!
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History of Sun in wrong place

Thread: History of Sun in wrong place

Interesting link.

**Indeed It Is !! ... Thank You !!
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How could Jupiter be a Star if it is less than 1/1000th of the Sun mass?

**It Can Be A Star ... Just Fine !! ... A Beautiful Blue-White Star !!

Aren´t blue-white stars among the large and massive stars? Much larger and much more energetic than Sol?

**They Are ... Of A "Younger Phase" ... With More Energy Output ... They Can Be ... In Your Terms ... Quite Large ... Quite Massive !!

Thanks again, and thanks too to Wispy, Schmieder, Josh and those others that contributed to my doubts and curiosity ; )

You Are Very Welcome !!

Amazing,

**Yes ... To You .. This Would Be ... Quite Amazing !! ... To Us ... Quite Of ... How Things Are !!
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Photo Proof Sun is too far north (Page #3)

Thread: Photo Proof Sun is too far north (Page 3)

Interesting link, includes methods for asking nature instead of google whatever.

**Yes Indeed !! ... & Thank You !!
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**In Response To Yolgnu ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

It seems that you are partially accurate Yolgnu indeed.
Something seems to had messed on the "pulling" equation. It´s amazing. What would happen next?

Would ST communications continue to prove informative?

**Just Wait !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!

Now it seems there is actual hard proof of some weird mess in progress. WOW.

**Yes Indeed !! ... WOWWWWW !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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What is happening there?! Is that a coal ash slide? How large should a stored pile be for such a spill? Has it been raining so hard? Looks like large lahars:

Huge and Terrible Environmental Disaster in Tennessee Yesterday.

Thread: Huge and Terrible Environmental Disaster in Tennessee Yesterday.

And it seems it polluted the waters downstream, take care.

TVA spokesman Gil Francis told CNN that up to 400 acres of land had been coated by the sludge, a bigger area than the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill.

**Thank You For The Link & Information !! ... A Most Terrible Situation !! ... And One ... That Could Have Been Taken Care Of/Dealt With ... Before It Developed Into A "Crisis Situation" !! ... Now The "Man Made Problem" ... Has Been Noticed ... & Has To Be Addressed ... While Innocents Once Again ... Suffer ... For The Folly/Stupidity & Greed ... Of Others !!

Best hopes for a better world ;)

Indeed ... Always !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

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Interesting & correcting... quotes from those threads...

Oh, may I also add, not one single chemtrail was viewable when I was looking at the 1996-1998 pics. Ever wonder why they are covering the sunrises and sunsets with that cloudy crap spewing from the back of KC-135's? I bet they are tracking the shifts that are occurring and effectively trying to cover it up when it does occur. Some of those pics in the later years on KatKam with heavy chemtrails sure look suspicious. The light seems to be way off course but since there is heavy 'fake' cloud cover, you can't pin point the suns location. Now, I'm not saying every cloudy day is chemcrap but the some that are were for a reason. So the 13, 15, 20 degree occasions will not be easily seen.

One day, I will find the mother of all proof and I have a feeling the hardcore debunkers will still deny it. I am prepared for it, so no skin off my chest.

I will be back. I have things to do.


Hi Schmieder,

I want to thank you for the threads and your try on exposing such weird changes, as i got intrigued by someone else suggestion i decided to update my old measurements and i was most surprised to find a 4° +-0.5° variation in the expected position of the Sun in the horizon for winter solstice 2008, the Sun is just still too north as if the solstice has not yet arrived indeed! This is most weird, so i understand that that you are founding much resistance and debunking attitudes... after all it might be wise not to put too much logs into the fire. Take it easy, you are right, but it is probably unwise to shout it everywhere.

You might be interested in giving a deeper look at the following thread, perhaps the most amazing on GLP ever:

Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 653)

For measuring angles you just need rulers or metric tapes, some square rulers, a large object that can project a shadow and in with which a rectangle with one 90° angle can be formed and its sides measured (height of the shadow producing object and lenght of the shadow at real noon). Just wait until real noon, when objects do not project lateral shadows (not necessarily 12 pm), make sure that the formed triangle has a 90° angle between the straight objects that is going to produce the shadow (i.e. a fence or a table), make sure that the surface you are making the 90° allignment is effectively flat (you can use a lever or fill a water bottle or tubes for this, the water must be the same level and alligned with the plane) and take the measurements. You can make plenty of them and have means ; ) Then use basic trigonometric relations to calculate the angles. Object´s height would be side B, shadow lenght would be side A, the hypothenuse (sorry if i misspell, english is not my first language) will be C and it is the root square of the sum of the square of A and the square of B, quite simple after Pytagoras equation:

C2 = (A2+B2)

Then calculate sen(beta), as following:

sen(beta)= b/c

where beta is the angle of incidence of sunlight where you are taking the measurements.

And look at the tables for the sen (or is it sin in english? Sen or Sin is a most used trigonometric function included in all calculators and all analitic geometry textbooks) function or use a calculator second function to obtain THE ANGLE, which for the winter solstice should had been 23° 26´ (about 23.5°) PLUS the latitude you are located at... if you are in the northern hemisphere. That only is valid at real noon, as later or earlier the shadows are longer and the angles would be varying in a complex way. This gaves me 4° +-0.5° northern that it should be. Weird. Really amazingly weird it seems, should check again.
If the object is very wide then you most be sure to measure the shorter line from the base of the object to the end of the shadow using the square rulers.

You can also use a compass but that is much less accurate, specially if you don´t have a professional one.

Had you thought on the implications and why such an obvious amazingly weird phenomena is not being published? I think it is related with many things being mentioned, suggested and even discussed in the thread i quoted, it might be also related with much more things, like Holmes weird development and plenty of alternative explanations...
But beware, because it might also be somewhat swampy ; )

Take it easy ; ) Please do not shout on this, let´s observe carefully what´s going on... and think much more carefully.
Best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares
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HE IS RIGHT in that one could take quite good measurements without complex instruments, but he is not right in saying that the sun is on an unusual position. I am sorry for i was very tired on those days and i misinterpreted the expected angle for the latitude which the sun is supposed to be... later, on the next day i realized my error for my fortune, relax and happiness... that the SUN is INDEED where it is supposed to appear... unless the ecliptic has changed in the same proportion than the tilt which is extremely unlikely.

You perhaps are misinterpreting the angles, arent you?

Happy new year and best wishes for a better world :)

A Scientist who Cares

hf bump

Hi again, i feel very happy, relaxed, pleased to inform everyone (anyone?) that i made a mistake which i realized on the night of the day i typed the misinterpretation above... the SUN IS NOT IN AN UNUSUAL POSITION ON THE HORIZON at least NOT as determined by noon minor angles using the method i gave. I just misinterpreted what the angle most be for latitude as instead of substracting the sum of degrees on latitude from the expected 90 degree angle of incidence in the tropic of Capricornio (from a tangential plane there or the soil level plane)... i make a weird wrong assumption. I am sorry, i was tired and i am a human scientist not a perfect scientist, he he he he he

There could be one way in which the Sun might be in a wrong position and still fit the right angle at noon... it is that the ecliptic has drifted as much as the tilt has changed compensating for the angle differences... but this is extremely unlikely and i doubt that this would not be a boom conversation everywhere by astronomers and amateur astronomers... as any change would be evident when observing the positions of the stars or most other objects.

Schmieder, it seems you also misinterpret your data... had you check it out on your assumptions and methods?

THE SUN IS exactly where it should appear, fortunately so he he he Happy new year and best hopes for a better world:)

A Scientist who Cares

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hi ST

is Alex Collier sincere, or is he a disinformation shill? he claims to have had extensive contact with ET's called "Andromedians".


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Hi ST and everyone, here are my comments (+) on ST responses to my prior posts

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Hi Wispy and everyone... it seems that the Sun is not on an
unexpected position. As far as i had measured the angles are as expected for this time of the year. Nothing unusual. However that link is interesting, as there might be some atmospheric diffraction in some latitudes/places. The Moon movement is much complex for trying to track it, i doubt that any has changed but might have a try on that ; )

HI EVERYONE THERE,

I AM SO SORRY TO INFORM YOU THAT I WAS WRONG WITH MY ABOVE POST, i had make new and more accurate measurements because of the doubts... and my older measurements being so many months old... and YOU WERE/ARE RIGHT:

The apparent position of the Sun in the horizon is about 4° +- 0.5° northern than it should be by now. It is so weird.

Perhaps it is to happen (what ST is talking about)...

**Perhaps So ???
+ What ST says... perhaps so. What i misinterpreted is not currently happen but if the ecliptic has drifted to compensate for a change in the tilt... says extremely unlikely... almost quite not the situations he he he

and this winter would be easily longer (and not just colder) than normal as it has not yet started... it seems that the solstice has not come yet! Really weird, i´m so surprised... i must check again on the next days and weeks.

BTW, thanks ST for your communications and the thread, now i had got a glance on another weird idea that is actually a most impressive fact, indeed a hard proof for something being WEIRD... really mind blogging weird... you might be sadly right... isn´t it?

**Well ... What Can We Say ?? ... Weird Is Us !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!
+ Weird he he he... not a longer winter but just a hard one... ST, you are as ambiguous swampy as ever he he he

Why didn´t you refer this as what it is... a hard obvious evidence of astronomical change?

**One Of The Reasons For Teaching ... Is To Allow The Students ... The Wow !!! ... The Joy Of Discovering ... & Learning !!
+ Yes of course. So you leave us with our mistakes because they are us to discover... isnt it? he he he he heeee

If this continues the weather conditions would make it impossible to hidden the changes by April or May at most, as the northern hemisphere winter could extend in an unseasonal pattern... if it continues so... WEIRD. Amazingly WEIRD.

**Yes !! ... It Is ... Isn't It !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
... if it continues... yes, of course he he he What an ambiguous swampy assumption i invited, of course... and then yo said> "IT IS ... IS NOT IT!" so you do not really said what i misinterpret was right because it was so... of course... neither you are clear, as criptic swampy as ever he he he

I am surprised and somewhat sad... i expected all this to be a large exaggeration but it might not be such, perhaps... you might be right after all... it´s so sad.

**It Is ... The Way Of Things !! ... It Is ... How It Is To Be !!
+ Perhaps, perhaps not? but of course, you stand for that.

All is relative, perhaps you are not exactly...
right, perhaps.

**Then Again ...
+ he he he he he

Can you believe it? 4° lat change going unnoticed! It´s so
weird... people, i think it would be wise to not give too much logs to the fire... keep this in small selected circles, think... oh, it is sooooo weird. So weird. Better not shout out about this, let´s just observe carefully...

**We Can ... Believe It !!
+ So you can "believe" what? That i make a mistake with that assumption and while my measurements were/are right, my interpretation of the angle was wrong? Or that a change has really happened and being compensated by another change in the ecliptic (orbital plane)? (Which seems extremely weird, unlikely BUT can be verified as a hard proof quite easily with some good observations of other stars and objects outside the solar system or even, perhaps some objects in the system itself? What you meant?

Observe carefully and think even more carefully people ; )

**You Are Learning !! ... We Are Pleased !!
+ Well thanks that this please you... but as for learning, i had always been of course... life is all about learning:)
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History of Sun in wrong place

Thread: History of Sun in wrong place

Interesting link.

**Indeed It Is !! ... Thank You !!
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How could Jupiter be a Star if it is less than 1/1000th of the Sun mass?

**It Can Be A Star ... Just Fine !! ... A Beautiful Blue-White Star !!
+ hmmmmmm.

Aren´t blue-white stars among the large and massive stars? Much larger and much more energetic than Sol?

**They Are ... Of A "Younger Phase" ... With More Energy Output ... They Can Be ... In Your Terms ... Quite Large ... Quite Massive !!
+ So isnt that unexplicative? unaccurate? Calling Jupiter what it is not as even Sol is not such thing... perhaps it can be in the very distant future, they might be, but now we only perceive a large gaseous planet with less than 1/1000 th the mass of Sol. A highly radiant, a net radiator indeed... with worlds orbiting it, amazing worlds that might have life. But... a blue/white star?! hmmmmmmm...

Thanks again, and thanks too to Wispy, Schmieder, Josh and those others that contributed to my doubts and curiosity ; )

You Are Very Welcome !!

Amazing,

**Yes ... To You .. This Would Be ... Quite Amazing !! ... To Us ... Quite Of ... How Things Are !!
+ What exactly? Swampy amazing nevertheless he he heeeee
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Photo Proof Sun is too far north (Page #3)

Thread: Photo Proof Sun is too far north (Page 3)

Interesting link, includes methods for asking nature instead of google whatever.

**Yes Indeed !! ... & Thank You !!
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**In Response To Yolgnu ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

It seems that you are partially accurate Yolgnu indeed.
Something seems to had messed on the "pulling" equation. It´s amazing. What would happen next?

Would ST communications continue to prove informative?

**Just Wait !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!
+ What else? He he he... perhaps, perhaps not...

Now it seems there is actual hard proof of some weird mess in progress. WOW.

**Yes Indeed !! ... WOWWWWW !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
+ SO YES INDEED?! Hmmmm..... what? That i thought there was/is actual hard proof while there wasnt/isnt such hard proof.... you are so criptic, swampy indeed he he he
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What is happening there?! Is that a coal ash slide? How large should a stored pile be for such a spill? Has it been raining so hard? Looks like large lahars:

Huge and Terrible Environmental Disaster in Tennessee Yesterday.

Thread: Huge and Terrible Environmental Disaster in Tennessee Yesterday.

And it seems it polluted the waters downstream, take care.

TVA spokesman Gil Francis told CNN that up to 400 acres of land had been coated by the sludge, a bigger area than the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill.

**Thank You For The Link & Information !! ... A Most Terrible Situation !! ... And One ... That Could Have Been Taken Care Of/Dealt With ... Before It Developed Into A "Crisis Situation" !! ... Now The "Man Made Problem" ... Has Been Noticed ... & Has To Be Addressed ... While Innocents Once Again ... Suffer ... For The Folly/Stupidity & Greed ... Of Others !!
+ Yes indeed... quite unfortunate incident. Take care.

Best hopes for a better world ;)

Indeed ... Always !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Happy holidays and best hopes for a better world :)
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Abstract> THE SUN IS IN THE RIGHT POSITION AT NOON, NO HARD PROOF FOR WEIRD CHANGES RELATED TO THIS

I was initially right and later wrong concerning the Suns relative position on the horizon. Soon i was right again and so embarrased for the mistake... and quite much more happy for the corrections : )

The Sun is where it is supposed to be at noon and it is unlikely that it is not where it is supposed to be at dawn and dusk... but i will check later, of course.

This means that some people might had been/are wrong, but they still might be right concerning the apparent pathway or they might be right by chance and not by observation.

There is no way to conclude that the Sun is in a wrong angle using real noon incidence angles measurements.

That make clear that i make a mistake, i am human.

It also makes clear that ST is quite swampy, but never clearly said i was right on my interpretation... so he neither corrected the mistake, nor fail to the truth.

We knew so little. Thanks everyone and Best hopes : )

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Abstract> THE SUN IS IN THE RIGHT POSITION AT NOON, NO HARD PROOF FOR WEIRD CHANGES RELATED TO THIS

I was initially right and later wrong concerning the Suns relative position on the horizon. Soon i was right again and so embarrased for the mistake... and quite much more happy for the corrections : )

The Sun is where it is supposed to be at noon and it is unlikely that it is not where it is supposed to be at dawn and dusk... but i will check later, of course.

This means that some people might had been/are wrong, but they still might be right concerning the apparent pathway or they might be right by chance and not by observation.

There is no way to conclude that the Sun is in a wrong angle using real noon incidence angles measurements.

That make clear that i make a mistake, i am human.

It also makes clear that ST is quite swampy, but never clearly said i was right on my interpretation... so he neither corrected the mistake, nor fail to the truth.

We knew so little. Thanks everyone and Best hopes : )

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It changes from day to day. Maybe that is what Nancy Leider calls Earth wobble. Anyway... I just use a compass to measure the location. But I know it is out of place sometimes, just by looking.. Today.. it is probably back in tilt. Just keep looking and measuring.

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Hi ST,

. since my creator, created my soul a spark of life - am i binded to that particular creator?/....

. do think there is a Lucifer or fallen angels?/....

. since you are one of the creator beings, how do you produce a soul/spark of life?/....


thanks and regards.


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hi, st.thank you for your answers about atlantis,crystal skulls,mayans,etc.thanks again.i have a few more questions ,if you dont mind.its about a caribbean island,puerto rico and the massive amount of sightings and encounters of the third kind.at the north part of the atlantic,more often,cartagena lake and the federal forest reserve ,called El yunque.well, every where!do you know what happenned to the kids never found?what race of ets are visiting?what about this being that they call "el chupacabra or goat sucker"?why it hurt animals and leave them without blood?about florida,are we going to have time to leave?thanks again st!cookies for you,dear friend!
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