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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 585606

quoting: ST In BG 634427 in response to Anonymous Coward: User ID: 585606

with my new response indicated by ----

----So even though violence and actions of killing and
destruction on Earth propel Nibiru forward or attract it to Earth, in the end it does not necessarily affect the passage as that comes down to being(s) aboard Nibiru giving the go signal.

**It Comes Down To ... What Might Be Termed ... "Cause & Effect" !! ... That Is ... Consider What Has Happened ... With The Release Of ... Genetically Engineered Biotoxins ... To Incapacite ... To Kill !! ... Such
Ways ... Such Thinkings Could ... Weigh In The Favor ... Of "Releasing The Restraints" ... & Letting Things Go Forward !! ... This Would Be ... As One Example ... Of A "Go Signal" ... By Actions Caused There !!

To some extent TPTB may have had a bit of a free pass to create death and destruction here to distract us without causing the passage because if other factors are not in place then Nibiru will continue to be held up until the right moment.

**There Are Many Complex Factors Involved !! ... And The Weighing Of These Factors ... Against All Others ... Is Left Of The Decision Of Council !!

----I've come to think that maybe Nibiru being close is not
really a sign that a passage is imminent as it can be anywhere it needs to be, thus whether it is right here or not should not have much affect on timing of the passage.

If necessary it could go from the opposite side of
it's orbit to passing right by us in an instant if necessary. Likewise it could be right on our doorstep and be held up for years or decades or longer. So it being close does not really say much as if the moment is not
right it will continue to be held up. The average of 3652-3657 linear years has little meaning in this context as well as time between each passage would be of varying lengths due to the controlled spaceship nature of Nibiru. Am I somewhat correct in these thoughts?

**No ... Of Your Thoughts In These "Scenarios" ... You Are ... Not Correct !!

----Also how can you believe that the time is near based on
terrestrial release of a disease?

**Because We Are Observant ... From Where We Are !! ... And Unfortunately ... Many There ... Are Not !! ... Do To ... Not Having All The Information ... Being Prevented From ... "Piecing Things Together" ... Being Prevented
From Seeing ... What Might Be ... Rather Obvious !!

You say you can calculate far better than those on Earth as to how close the passage is... so therefore your own
calculations should be far more accurate an indicator than the relying on the actions of terrestrials who are more or less guessing that it is close.

**When It Comes To Council Decision ... While We Can Calculate ... Far Better ... Then Those On Terra/Earth ... We Cannot Predict ... Of Their Decision ... When They Would In Essence Say ... (Or Roar For That Matter !!)... That I Have Had Enough !!! ... Let Things Proceed !! ... Let It Begin !!

----Thanks for anything you can clear up and I still have my fingers and toes crossed that May 15th is the date,

**May 15th ... Would Be A "Estimate" ... On The Main Passage Itself !! ... While This Will Be Of ... The Shifting/Dragging Of The Crust Itself .. At Least 3/4th's Of The Way Around ... One Is Not Understanding ... That
Previous To This ... Approximately 1 Week Before Or So ... Would Be ... "Preliminary Events" ... Leading Up To ... May 15th ... In Which Every Day ... Every Hour ... Every Moment ... In Which Things Draw Closer ... Draw Nearer ... That Turmoils ... Upheavals, Changes ... Would Continue To
Escalate !!

but I don't feel like it is. Will have to wait and see, nothing else I can do.

**Such Is A "Potential Date" ... In Which ... Depending Too ... On Actions/Inactions On Terra/Earth ... Such Decisions To "Go Ahead" ... May Be Rendered !!
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Darn, my quoting didn't work in the last post,

**We Actually Prefer ... The "Markings" ... Rather Then The "Quoting In Bold Face Type" ... As This Does Not Transfer Over ... When One ... Cuts/Pastes !!

hope you can figure it out. I put ---- in front of the new material.

**Yes We Could !! ... Thank You !! ... This Helped !!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST in BG. I forgot to add to my last post about the space travel "experience". I forgot to specify that if I were to "train" in such an experience, would it be in the physical realm (3rd density universe) or another higher realm. I have been experiencing some of the most incredible experiences in the dream state as if they were right out of a George Lucas, Steven Spielberg or a Gene Roddenbury movie script. Truly incredible. But I would also like to have the same in the physical if possible. Anyway, thank you for responding. Your friend, MJ-13.

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Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 510780

Hi (almost) everyone there, take care of the nasty and
outrageous biological mess that seems to had been taken out of a Pandora's Box. This virus seems serious, i found Feru´s thread interesting and posted there some humble suggestions that i would not repeat here. Take care, might
we go ahead and defeat this irrational and unwise mistake ; )

**Another "Terrestrial Mess" To Clean Up !! ... Sigh !! ... When Will They Ever Learn ????

Hi ST, you intriguing mystery ... well, thanks for trying to comment on some of my comments of which i feel prompted to have more thoughts (+)... despite it seems that we have some irreconcilable differences of knowledge / convictions ; )

**Yes ... It May Be ... That We DO ... Have Some ... "irreconcilable differences of knowledge / convictions" ... Since We Are Of "Scientists" ... At "Differing Levels" Of Understandings !!

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**Note: New Comments Are ... (X) **

I recommend you to have a critical glance (take care, some of them do make mistakes too...

but nevertheless you are easily allowed (very easily so!
and specially... claim that everything on Earth would be
completely destroyed, transformed in ways that would leave
nothing of what is or had been,

***This Is Correct !! ... Though For Us ... It Is Not A "Claim" ... But A Fact !!

++ I found your "fact" quite fictional, hopefully.

(X) Let Us Amend Our Statement !! ... In Which To Say/Indicate ... That Of Your Civilizations There ... In 3rd Density ... Such "Trace Residue" ... Will Carry Over ... To 4th Density Terra/Earth !! ... Of This ... When
Terra/Earth Resettles ... There Will Be ... Cleanup Of The Surface (As If One Is Revisiting The Remnants Of A World War 2 City That Has Been Bombed ... Abandoned & Left Standing !!) ... So Of This "Cleanup" ... Of Your Toxicities ... Chemical, Radioactive ... Biological, Ect. ... There Would Still Be Those ... That Need To Be Neutralized/Nullified !! ... And Of Course ... There Will Be Some Evidences/Traces ... Of Your Having Lived ...
On The Surface ... Though By That Moment ... Noone Will Know Anything About Them !! ... Rather Of Ancient Of Histories !! ... Things Discovered In "Archaeological Finds" ... Which May Be Explainable ... Just By Sigh Alone
... Of Your Cultures ... Will Be Puzzlements ... To Those Beings ... Who Uncover These ... Of Your Termed "Distant Future" !!

ways that are not congruent even with saltational equilibria or catastrophist view of natural history, ways that are not physically sound/explainable, ways that are in contradiction with the biodiversity of life itself

***Your Arguments Are Based In ... Lack Of Knowledge !! ... That Which You Do Not Know There !! ... Therefore Such Would Be ... A Wasteful Expenditure Of Your Energies !!

++ Really? Not exactly so.

(X) It Is More Of A Waste ... A Wasteful Expenditure Of Energies ... When You Base Of That ... Which Is To Come ... On Views & Viewpoints ... Of Those There ... Who Are Not Seeing ... Being Able To See ... Of A "Farther
Distance Ahead" ... & Who Are "Locked Into" ... Their (Incorrect) Perceptions Of How Things Work There On Terra/Earth ... And In That Universe !!

and nevertheless... you claim that biodiversity is not relevant to what is being said?!

***It Is ... An Entirely Different Subject ... Which Of ... What Is To Occur ... What Is To Happen ... Does Not Apply !! ... Such Perhaps WOULD Apply ... When It Comes The Moment ... To Once Again ... Create/Adapt ... Of Plant Forms, Animal Forms ... Life Forms ... In Which They Would Be Able To Exist ... (Including The Creation Of Biological Habitats/Areas) ... Of The Exposures To The Higher Energies/Vibrations ... Of The Dimension/Area Of Space ... That The Newly Cleansed Terra/Earth ... In 4th Density ... Will Be !! ... Until Then ... Such Thought Of "Biodiversity" ... Would Not Correspond !!

++ I found your claims ridiculous... not to offend but you don´t seem to know how marvelous complex biodiversity is and how extremely improbable and difficult it would be for your explanation being truth... for biodiversity being rebuild each time after complete removal and still
showing the complex and amazing relationships it shows... for a civilization... no matter how advanced... being able and willing to try such things. Isn´t it expectable that i can´t agree with your view, that i will find it unbased and in contradiction with what we see?

(X) You Would Find Such "Ridiculous" ... When You Do Not "Factor In" ... Of Your "Biodiversity" ... Of Those ET Beings & Peoples ... Who Have "Time & Again" ... Rebuilt Your World ... After Such Catastrophies !! ... Who Have Worked In The Open ...& Behind The Scenes ... To Bring Forth Life ... To Your Planet ... When All ... To Almost
Of All This ... Was Extinguished !! ... Of This You Would Make Claim ... That Such Bringing Forth Of Life ... Such
"Diversity" Is Simply Of Nature & Nature's Responses ... To Such Upheavals ... Such Changes !! ... Though How
Little You Are Aware ... Of Those That Have Helped Out ... That Continue To Help Out ... To Make Life Livable
... On Terra/Earth !! ... Who Have Stepped In ... Time & Again ... & Neutralized Terrestrial Dangers & Their Own Terrestrial Stupidity ... Which Would Have Threatened ... All Life There ... & Perhaps Elsewhere As Well !! ... It Is
THESE Beings ... You Can Thank For Your So Called ... "Biodiversity" !! ... As It Is They ... Who Deserve The Credit !!

What could possibly prepare someone to what you refer?

***We Can !! ... As We Are Doing This ... Constantly !! ... We Are Teaching ... Though Not Necessarily ... On That Level ... Or The Place ... Where You Are At !! ... Such As All ... (Yes Even You !!) ... Are Being "Educated/Reeducated" ... Into The Nature & Ways Of Things ... Of What Is Coming ... What You Are Going To Be Doing ... Where You Are Going To Be ... Many Many Many +++ Things !!

++ You? ... actually you just seem to be giving some nightmare scenarios without enough explanation or basis and claiming everything will be destroyed/erased/changed in a complete way...

(X) Depending On How You Wish To See This ... It Will Be ... A "Nightmare" !! ... Or A Termed: "Change For The Better" !!

how could you expect a rational thinker to agree with you or even found something meaningful or illustrious/wise on such... claims?

(X) It Is ... How You Wish To Perceive !! ... Of The "Artificial Reality" There ... On Terra/Earth ... And Those Things ... Which You Have Been Taught ... Have Been Programmed To Believe ... To Be True ... Or ... To Be Outside Your Planet ... To Perceive ... To See Of How Things ... Really Work & Function !! ... To See Of The Planet Nibiru ... To Which We Refer ... It's Satellites/Moons ... And Of Space Debris, Asteroids, Rubble, Ect. ... That Is Carried Along ... With This !! ... So Of This ... It Is Of Your "Limited Perspectives/Seeing There" ... Versus ... Our Seeing ... Where We Are At !! ... Which Is ... Our Basis ... For Rationality ... And Of Knowing !!

For what sake should we know any of this if there is some truth in your scenarios?

***For The Understanding ... The "Sake" Of Knowledge !!

++ Perhaps you have to rethink on your own claims? I found some hilarious/ironic sense on your "explanations"...

(X) All We Have To Do ... Is Look Outside ... Our Port Windows !! ... The Same Cannot Be Said ... For Those ... Limited In Viewing ... (By Those Who Wish To Keep Their Secrets !!) ... On Terra/Earth !!

++ What you expect from a scientist?

(X) ... Well A "Scientist" ... Of That Level ... Stuck In 3rd Density Thinkings/Understandings !! ... How We Wish We Could ... Raise You ... To Our Level ... To Have You See ... For Yourself ... Of What We Are Saying !!

Well... i am not as some fellows that quickly swamp their curiosity and concentrate on boring methods and overspecialized tiny "works and (pseudo)comprehensions"...
of course i would question! ; )

(X) ... Well Of Course !! ... But Still Sticky ... Still Stuck !!!

The Constant One ... Who Needs Their ... Terrestrial "Proof In Hand" !! ... "Evidences" !! .... Sorry To Inform You ... But Nibiru ... (Neither Of It's Satellites/Moons) ... Can Fit In Your Hand !! ...

++ Of course not, ha... i neither asked for such a thing...

(X) Aren't You Though ???? ... Such Are The Evidences ... That You Wish ... That You Desire !!

++ The Menorah? And you said this was forgotten...

(X) The Explanation Of This ... Is "Forgotten" !!

well i was not thinking of that kind of "explanations" either... but it is somewhat suggestive/curious... however there seem to be other explanations for its shape and numbers.

(X) ... And Ones That Have No Bearing ... On What It Really Means !!

There is nothing that sustain your claim... or is it?
What would sustain it?

(X) ... Well If We Put ... Nibiru In The Middle ... & White Satellites/Moons Around It ... In A Kind Of Mobile ... They Would Still ... Turn This Into ... A "Religious Thing" !!

***Both Are Used In Sacred Jewish Ceremonies & Celebrations ... But Their Meanings/Understandings ... Have Been Lost !!

++ So you say, they were lost... but this remains unproven.

(X) Yes ... We Do So Say !! ... The Information Was Originally Of The S(h)umerian People .... Of Their Encounters With Beings/Teachers ... Who Gave Them ... Of Their Civilization !! ... Then Due To ... "Atomic Destruction/Dispersal" Of These Peoples ... They Of Their Descendants ... In Their Wanderings ... Lost This Information ... This Knowledge ... & It Became ... Of A "Religion" ... A Symbol Of Their "Created Faith/Belief"
... When Previously ... It Had To Do With ... Science & Cosmology !!!

***As Stated ... Both Represent Nibiru (Center Position) ... With The Outer Positions Representing Of Nibiru's Satellites/Moons !! ... The Discrepancy Between The Two ... As To 6 Satellites/Moons ... (3 To Each
Side) ... Versus ... 8 Satellites/Moons (4 To Each Side)

***The Correct Number Of Satellites/Moons ... Can Be Attributed To A Number Of Things ... One Being ... That These Were .... Passed Down Informations/Observations ... Both Terrestrially & Extraterrestrially ... And Of Ancient Languages ... Which May Have Been ... Inadvertently
Mistranslated/Misunderstood ... Of Their Original Tongues !! ...

++ Is this more than a weird hypothesis on the air?

(X) ... No ... As One Branch ... Of The "Ancient S(h)umerian People" ... Are Those Of Your Today ... Called ... The Jewish People !! ... Of Which Of Their Customs ... Their Heritage ... This Has Been Watered Down ... Passed Down ... Translated From Ancient Cuneiform ... Into The Hebrew Language !!

Concerning proofs for signs that might refer to this Nibiru from the records and objects of past and present cultures... i found the Eagles/birds and the winged suns so well distributed among many ancient cultures much more
suggestive.

Within the Maya (popol vuh) it we found that Vucub Caquix was an arrogant lord that tried to supplant the Sun, bringing darkness and... as for this mayan (god) being shot down by Hunahpu... for the cycle to continue and an era to start again... and there is it on the stones of many
temples on Palenque and some other cities... the eagle/bird passing over the tree of life depicting a galactic alignment with a serpent.

There are all those relations to the dragons/reptiles/serpents in the Mayan and other
mesoamerican cultures... the patterns on the temple ornamental walls of plenty of cities, the sculptures of the Earth´s monster (imix) and the Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl portraits of the Maya and the Toltec...

it is quite a lot of coincidence for the center of the galaxy being really between Ophiuccus, Scorpio and Sagittarius it seems. But the similarities between distant cultures go further,

we found dragons not just in ancient America but in the works of ancient China,

(X) Indeed !! .... As Of ... Serpent Mound (Giant Serpent Or "Dragon")!! ... As Of The Chinese (Red) Dragon (Chinese New Year) ... Of The Yin/Yang (Yin/Yong) ... Symbology ... Of The (2) Dragons ... The Red Dragon(Nibiru) & The Green Dragon (Terra/Earth) ... Or More Precisely ... Nibiru/Anu ... Terra/Earth: Enki !!

(X) Cultures Such As ... The Red Bull & White Bull ... Of Ancient Crete (Red Bull/Nibiru) ... White Bull (Nibiru's Satellites/Moons) !!

in the Nordic cultures, as well as in some Semitic and Hellenistic traditions. I found that quite intriguing.

(X) Different Cultures Had Different Ways ... Of Depicting ... Of Nibiru, Nibiru's Satellites/Moons, Terra/Earth !!

Another quite mysterious sign seems to be the horned sculptures, some having to do with the minotaur, with the Minoic (Crete) culture... but some coming farther
from the past, from the Sumerian and other Mesopotamian cultures... but which also shows in some allusions/sculptures of Horus... and also appear on catholic representations of the virgin, in the shape of a tiny moon over which she appears to rise (and which appears as early as with Sumerian goddesses... it seems). There are plenty of intriguing clues... but of course
there seems not to be a conclusive one among such sources. Not one that we are widely aware about, at least.

(X) ... Indeed Many Such Clues/Representations ... That Are Provided ... That Are ... In Plain Sight !!! ... If You Know Where To Look !!

Such For An Example Would Be ... That The Hebrew Language ... Is A Changed Version ... Of Ancient Cuneiform ... Which Was The Language Of The S(h)umerian People ... Of Which Both ... The Jewish People ( Includes Those Of The Land Of Israel & Elsewhere !!) & The Palestinian People ... Are From The Same Root Stock/Family !! ... They Are In Effect ... Brothers & Sisters ... To One Another !!

++ So it is in many ways, indeed... although the cultures are different now and there is manipulation by other parties with created interest involved.

(X) OH Indeed !!! ... Even In Regards To ... The Closely Held Secret ... Of Why The Palestinian People ... Are Considered Enemies ... (Being That They Are (Both The Israelites/Jewish People & The Palestinians) ... Are Descendants Of The Ancient S(h)umerian Peoples !! ... Two Branches ... That Became Separated From Each Other !! ... Both Claiming ... The Ancestral Lands !! .... & One Large Hidden Secret ... Is That The True Birth ... Of The One Later To Be Called ... Apollonius Of Tyana (& Other
Names (Depending On Where He & His Party Went) ... The Birthmother Was Of Those Later Called "Palestinian" !! ... Those That Remained Close To Their Lands ... Became Wandering Nomads ... & Never Left !! ...The Birth Was
Inside A Tent ... Alongside The Banks Of The Tigris/Euphrates River !! ... There Was No Bethlehem ... No Manger !! ... This Was All Invented Fiction ... Made Up ... Along With The "Christ Birth" !! ... The Names, Places, Events ... All Changed/Distorted ... And Taken As Fact ... When The Truth Was ... The Real Being ... Was Born Years Before ... & Did These Things ... So Attributed To The One Called: "Jesus Christ" (A Work Of Fiction On
Paper ... Which Did Not Exist !!) ... So A "Bait & Switch" Was Performed !! ... And These People Knew Of The Truth !! ... So They Were (Amongst Other Reasons) ... Considered A Threat !!

***Well ... You Can Doubt ... All You Wish !! ... You Will
Probably Still Be Doubting ...When All "Upheaval" Breaks Loose Around You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... But Then Again ... Maybe Not ???

++ What would that matter? Well, it matters if you come to
realize that words had power and that yours seems directed to undermine mankind hopes... or aren´t they? Well...

(X) "Mankind" ... Will Cease To Exist !! ... That Bioshell/Body/Form ... Has Been Classified As "Outdated" ... To Be Replaced ... Do To ... It Cannot Be
"Further Enhanced" ... To Deal With ... Incoming Energies/Radiations ... Of High Energy Forms !! ... They Will Breakdown ... Cease To Function !! ...
The Bodies/Shells Will Die !! ... The New Bodies ... Are Quite Different ... That Have Been Designed ... Have Been Built ... For Such Higher Energies/Radiations & Exposures !! ... They However Will Not Be "Human" ... As "Human" ... Are Those Body/Forms ... Specifically Designed Only For ... Terrestrial 3rd Density Vibratory Plane ... Of Those Radiations From Space & The Planet ... Of Those Terrestrial Energy Fields !!

I also wonder about what reasons might really be behind such partial informations, uninformations and even misinformations and disinformations... as well as for the refusal to explain what is claimed to be something
unavoidable? But it is not so... as well as it is not thorough and is quite far from being so.

***Always The Suspicious Mind !! .... Sigh !! ... Must Be Those "Terrestrial Influences" There !! ... The Thinking Of ... Can't Trust Anyone !! ...

++ Not exactly... but we shall seek corroborable answers, we shall ask nature... instead of "gurus"... that´s what science really is about, not authority worshiping and beliefs...

(X) Since You Do Not Know How To ... "Talk To Nature" ... To Understand ... How To "Read" Of Nature ... Of Your "Backwards Sciences" (And Yes They Are To Us ... Quite "Backwards" !!) ... Then You Would Be Lost ... Before You Began !!!

**A Sad State Of Affairs There !! ... Though We Understand ... Through The Conduit ... How These Things Are !! ... Still Sad However !! ... We Don't Have Those "Difficulties" Here !! ... We Trust ... & We KNOW One
Another !!

++ Hmmmmm ... so why you cite what is irrelevant...

(X) Not Irrelevant !!

is that showing understandment about mankind?

(X) It Is About ... (Collectively) Mankind !!

Is that meaningful? It is not a sad state of affairs, it is just as it is... a certain state of things which is much better now that it had been in the past... and which can improve in awesome ways, if we achieve such improvements.

(X) Actually Of Other "Previous Cultures" ... Of The Ones That Respected & Revered Nature ... We Found These More Connected Of Life ... & To The Life Energies Of The Planet !! ... These To Us ... In Many Ways ... Were More Advanced !!

***Of Your Response To Our Response ... This Is Interesting ... Of Terrestrial Understandings !! ... However ... It Is Not The Main Reason ... That One Is Getting More Incoming Radiations ... Of Your Moment ...
Versus Of Your Linear Moment ... Of 5 - 10 Years Ago !! ... This Has To Do ... With Nibiru's Interactions With The Star Called Sol ... Exacting/Extracting ... More Energies !! ...

++ Could it be?

(X) Yes ... It Could Be !!

Even while the sun is showing an anomalous low
number of sunspots? Even while the (11 year) cycle is extending instead of being usual?

(X) Yes !! ... As How Little You Understand ... The Sun/Star There ... Called "Sol" !! ... One Example Of This ... In Thinking ... That It Is "Fiery Hot" !! ... When Actually ... It Is Extremely Extremely Cold !! ....
Of What You Might Call Of Plasma ... Of "Cold Fusion" ... **Another "Glaring Example" ... Of Keeping Those Of Terra/Earth ... In The Dark !! ... As "Cold Fusion" (Works Just Fine In Space !!!) ... Is One Of ... The
Ways Of Things !! ... And On Your Planet ... Would Eliminate The Need/Dependency Of Oil !! ... Yet This Technology Is Prohibited ... Do To Those Who Are "Heavily Invested" ... In Oil Ventures !!

It is expelling particles, mass, all the time... creating the solar wind.

***That Is ... An Incomplete Understanding Of Things !!

++ So what is the solar wind if not such things?!

(X) For One Thing ... It Is Of Multiple Variants Of Radiations ... "Charged Particles" ... Energy Plasma ... & Many Other Things Besides !!

***Since You Do Not Know There ... Of All The Processes Involved ... Of Such Changes !! ... Acting & Interacting ... The Suppositions Would Be Limited ... Therefore ... It Would Be Akin To "Guessing" ... Of How This Is !!

++ You do not convince me... instead of sharing arguments you mislook/condemn mines.

(X) Why Should We Argue ?? ... As We Know How Things Are ... And Rather ... You Do Not !!

Had you really explained? I feel no, but i do not
expected you would really explain such phenomena as it most likely is fictional, of course.

(X) Of The Ways Things Happen ... Of Such Changes ... They Are Very Much ... Not Fiction !! ... They Simply Operate ... Under Different Understandings ... Of Differing Means !! ...

(X) It Is Not A Condemnation Of Those There ... To Say ... They Do Not Know !! ... It Is Quite Factual !! ... They Don't Know !! ... We Know Do To ... This Has Already Occurred ... From Our Perspectives !! ... Since It Has
Yet To Occur There ... Then ... This Is Not Yet ... On Your Records ... Of Your Knowledge !!
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***A Lot Of Things ... Were Indeed Lost !! ... Also ... A Lot Of Things Were ... Secreted ... Taken Away ... Hidden Away ... Until The Moment Comes ... When The Level ... The Maturity Of The Species Is Deemed Ready ... To Have These Things Returned !! ... When Wisdom Is Obtained !!

++ And what should such a time could be? Does such a thing
really exists?

(X) Yes ... Such A Thing ... Of That Moment ... Does Exist !!

Said that... it is likely that a lot of things had been
forgotten or lost and that some had been secreted or taken away indeed...

but there is wisdom too, not just mistakes and undoings/mishappenings!

(X) ... Yes ... All Of This !!

Cheers, S. who C.

Best hopes for a better world & Farewell for ever ; )

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST In BG

Are you kidding ??? He's working at the coming of Nibiru ??

**That IS ... The Current Basis ... Of All That Is Happening There !! ... Of This Knowledge !!

But what is he expecting to do ??

**To Play His Part ... To Play His Role !!

What can he do if nothing is to do ?

**By Just ... Filling That Role ... That Part ... Is What He Was Chosen For !!
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This flu was called S.A.R.S. for those who remember, and China stopped the flu (with your help ??)

**Yes !!

It was an engineered flu...

**A Biogenetic Weapon ... Designed To Seek Out & Attack ... Certain Vectors ... Certain Ones ... That Had ... Certain Genetic Markers !! ... To Attack
Them ... & Leave The Others Unharmed !!

What are your latest developments on this swine flu? Could you find something to milder or stop this flu ?

**We Can Only Say ... Ourselves & Others ... Are Working On This !!

Please keep us up-dated as I'm sure a lot of people here would like to hear about.

**Certain Things Unfortunately ... We Cannot (For Reasons) Reveal !! ... As There Are Certain "Stipulations" ... Rules You Might Say ... To Make
Things Look ... Of "Non Extraterrestrial Intervention" !! ... Essentially To Give Terrestrials The Credit ... While We Actually ... Did The Work !!

MOST INTERESTING ST in BG !

So he plays a role, but who is he as a person and what's his goal ?

Is he a STS or STO ?

**This Would Be ... Of Fractuated Thinking !! ... Not Of "Whole Thinking" !! ... He Is ... As He Is !!

Of course we know there are those "behind the scenes".... How long will these be ruling ?

Or is their end near ?

**Their "Reign" Is Coming To A Close !!

It's may be just my feeling but how these years are difficult to live !! ...

**And Created/Made ... To Be So !!

Just in my life there are a lot of hindrances, there is always a concern about something, never can I be quiet and serene, it needs a lot of energy to not go down.

**Yes ... To Keep The Public On Edge !! ... To Keep Them Upset !! ... More Energies Used In Such Endeavors ... More Energy Available ... In Which Certain Ones ... Gain Strength !!

Anyone else feeling like that ??

**We Have Noticed This !!

Thanks

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi ST,

where's your home planet?/....

[link to archives.zinester.com]

**We Have Many Places ... Where We Have Resided ... Do Reside !!

**It Is Has Always Been A "Misunderstanding/Non-Understanding" ... Of Our Being Called ... "Zeta Reticulians" !! ... As We Do Not Specifically Come
... From That System !! ... Yet It Is One Of Many Such Places ... In Our Ancient Of Histories !! ... To Ask Where We Do Come From ... The Answer Would Be ... From Everywhere !! ... Which Is ... Quite Factual !!

**Morning, Noon, Evening - Night !!

Farewell For Now !!!

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I guess I opened a can of worms (metaphor) without realizing it, in regards to the soul, ascension and 2012.

**Perhaps So ?? .... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Getting back to what you said about the soul and that it was a religious "misunderstanding"?

**Okey Dokey !!

Are you saying we therefore have no soul?! If so or not, please do explain.

**You Do Not Have ... Of "Religious Interpretation" ... Of The Multifaceted "Energy Matrix" ... The "Energy Essences" ... That Is Animating The Body !! ... That Is The ... Real YOU !!

As far as ascension goes, please explain that one as well.

**Ascension ... As It Is Called There ... By (Once Again) ... Of "Religious Thinking" !!) ... Is No More ... No Less ... Going Upward !! ... To Ascend !! ... To Lift/Float Upward !! ... So This Can Also Describe ... Floating/Being Lifted ... By Beam ... Into The Ship !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I have had dreams (multiple) where I have been told that there will be a "conscious shift" coming.

**There Will Be More ... Then A "Conscious Shift" !! ... There Will Be ... A Physical Rearrangement ... Of The Planet's Surface !! ... This Would ... Most Definitely ... "Shift One's Consciousness ... & Their "Reality" !!

Does that have anything to do with ascension?

**Well ... You May Be ... "Rescued" ... & Be ... Lifted Or Beamed ... Of The Planet's Surface !!

Please explain.

**Which We Did !!

Thank you ST In BG,

You Are Very Welcome !!

your friend MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings again. I would have replied sooner but I didn't have a chance to see your response. But thank you for the response. As far as the question regarding "soul", I wasn't coming from a religous perspective but a spiritual one. So in essence, we do have a soul, but one that is of pure energy (energy body) and does give life to the physical shell known as the physical body? But you say also that it has no "connection" to the "source" (energy source that created it)? And as far as ascension, I was not referring to a "lifting" in a physical sense. What ascending in my mind is one of a metaphor. The metaphor represents that of evolving upward in a spiritual/density/dimentional sense. The impresion that I am getting over many years of hearing about the "coming of Christ", the "Messionic Age" (Messiah's arrival) and other religious prediction as well as Niburu and my own personal spiritual "visions" is that we all are going to be participants in a spiritual acsension. If you are saying that I will be "rescued", does that mean that my soul and body will be rescued or just the soul? Or do you mean that both will be rescued in the sense that the physical body will change dimensions and I would be "beamed" up to a higher realm without having to go through a physical death? What about the rest of my family and friends. Can they be "rescued" as well? Why or why not? Thank you again ST in BG. Bye for now. Your friend, MJ-13.
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**In Response To: S who C. ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

S who C,

You CLAIM to be a "Scientist" - but you offer no "proof" of
this.

**It Is ... Curious !!

Your Scientific knowledge Base, so far, seems at best, to be no more than that of a Terrestrial High School Level.

Plus, you seem to be unable to grasp of Knowledge Beyond that Level.

And things have to be repeated over and over and you still
cannot Think Beyond that Level.

**Such Things Are ... Puzzlements !!

Is it that you are afraid of All There Is Beyond what you
conclude you "know"?

**Well ... We Have "Plenty Of Costumes" ... To Visit In !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... (Except Getting Into Those "Religious Winged Ones" ... Those Are Kind
Of Tricky !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!) ... Though ... We Would Rather They Said ... As In Some "Terrestrial Party Gatherings" ... "Come As You Are" !! ... So We Do !!
... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST In BG

Are you kidding ??? He's working at the coming of Nibiru ??

**That IS ... The Current Basis ... Of All That Is Happening There !! ... Of This Knowledge !!

But what is he expecting to do ??

**To Play His Part ... To Play His Role !!

What can he do if nothing is to do ?

**By Just ... Filling That Role ... That Part ... Is What He Was Chosen For !!
___________________________________________________________

So he plays a role, but who is he as a person and what's his goal ?

Is he a STS or STO ?

**This Would Be ... Of Fractuated Thinking !! ... Not Of "Whole Thinking" !! ... He Is ... As He Is !!


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ST in BG

You have your way to see things like Obama is here to "play his part" etc...

Hitler too played his part, but he was an evil person, or don't you agree he was ?
I would say : he played an evil part.

I know you don't make the difference between good and evil, but we can say those who spread viruses through the world play also an evil part ?

By the way can you tell us, some people today say Hitler didn't kill Jews in concentration camps.
Did he or did he not ? What your idea about this ?

Million of Jews disappeared (died) during WW2, did they die in camps ?
If not what happened to them ?

Why did Hitler exterminate Jews, what was the purpose ?

Thanks !
hi
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ST,

I have a question for you, please try to clarify for me. Thank you in advance.

You say we are in 3rd density,

**Yes !! ... Transiting From ... 3rd Density ... To 4th Density !!

so 1, 2, 3.

**Well ... 1, 2 , 3 ... Almost 4 !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

But then it is also said we have lived many lifetimes and had many experiences.

**You Exist In Many Forms ... Many Bodies ... All In The Moment !! ... All In The Now !! ... These Are ... Concurrent Lives & Lifetimes !!

And we act the way we do because of the things we have learned.

**Yes !! ... Of Those Things ... Which You Have Learned ... Are Learning !!

But it is also said that they are all concurrent. (existing at the same time?).

**This Is Correct !!

Please clarify if you are allowed. I know it is complex but that is half the reason I am asking.

I probably asked an advanced question . But through all the information you have presented, I am trying to click together the knowledge into a whole understanding.

**What Gave A Brief Explanation ... As We Went !! ... Is There More You Wish To Ask On This ??

Thank you very much!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Laddie.

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings Truth2 Silent C, Canundrum, S who C, and all.

Greetings ST,

I had the same message several times today. And it went on and on.

The pink Circles with a tail.. are large. They came from the Southwest to Northeast and another group from the West to East. They crossed in Northeast US. ( Ohio/PA/ Ky?)

The circles with the tail ( Nibiru) are getting larger ( closer) They are spinning faster ( soon ). The circles were pink. After a while they turned to red dust and the message
ended.

((hugs))

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**In Response To: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Well, I am hoping as always and as many here are that May
7, 8, 9...something will happen... and 15th It's taking sooo long... well..yes, I know the answer to that...it will take what it
takes...

**Yes ... We Hope So Too !! ... It's Been ... A Wong Lait !! ... Err ... A Long Wait !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Meanwhile..I work hard in the garden to grow organic food for my family...and if there are left overs..happy to give some to other folks as well...

**Very Nice !!!

Strawberries are blooming right now... :-) and the rhubarb is in full swing..so soon to enjoy strawberry/rhubarb pie

**Yummy Yummy In The Tummy !!!

Hope all is well with you..

**And We Hope ... "All" Is Well With "You" Too !! ... (Actually Seen ... "All" & "You" Snuggling !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!)

And of course my greetings and thanks to ST Conduit, Team,
Paschats and Whispy

**Thank You Very Kindly !!!

Sincerely, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST in BG.

I forgot to add to my last post about the space travel "experience".

**Oh You Did ???

I forgot to specify that if I were to "train" in such and experience, would it be in the physical realm (3rd density
universe) or another higher realm.

**It Would Be ... Of A "Higher Plane" Of Teaching/Learning !!

I have been experiencing some of the most incredible experiences in the dream state as if they were right out of a George Lucas, Steven Spielberg or a Gene Roddenberry movie script.

**Hee Hee Hee !! ... Very Nice !!!!

Truly incredible.

**Well ... You Did Ask !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

But I would also like to have the same in the physical if
possible.

**4th Density Possible !! ... 3rd Density ... Not Possible !! ... (Well Not In Those "Clothes" Anyway !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!)
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Greetings again.

I would have replied sooner but I didn't have a chance to see your response.

But thank you for the response.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

As far as the question regarding "soul", I wasn't coming from a religous perspective but a spiritual one.

**Either Usage Is Incorrect !! ... Even The Word Usage Of
"Spirit/Spiritual" !!

So in essence, we do have a soul,

**No !! ... Not Of That ... "Word Usage" !! ... Such Of That Idea ... Would Be ... Incorrect !!

but one that is of pure energy (energy body) and does give life to the physical shell known as the physical body?

**If Is Of ... The "Energy Essenses" ... Of The Multifasceted Energy Matrix ... (Of Combined Lifetimes & Connections Of Lifetimes Of Experiences) .... That Of Which Animates The Physical Body !!... That Which Is ... The True You !!

But you say also that it has no "connection" to the "source" (energy source that created it)?

**Not Sure Where This Was Taken From ?? .... It Is To Say However ... That The Energies Are That ... Which Animate The Physical Body !!

And as far as ascension, I was not referring to a "lifting" in a physical sense.

**That Is ... The Only "Ascension" We Are Familer With !!

What ascending in my mind is one of a metaphor.

**Ahhh !!!

The metaphor represents that of evolving upward in a
spiritual/density/dimentional sense.

**They It Should Be Related ... In This Context !! ... Not In A "Relgious One" !! ... To Say "Ascention" To Us ... States Of ... Physical Uplifting ... Floating Up To The Ship ... Beaming Up To The Ship ... That Sort Of Thing !!

The impresion that I am getting over many years of hearing about the "coming of Christ", the "Messionic Age" (Messiah's arrival) and other religious prediction

**We See Of That Difficulty !!

as well as Niburu and my own personal spiritual "visions" is that we all are going to be participants in a spiritual acsension.

**Well ... Your Energies Are Going To ... Depart That Body/Form ... And You Are Going To Go ... To A Higher Teaching/Learning Plane !! ... To Animate Different Bodies !! ... Though This To Us Would Be More ... A Tranference ... Energy Tranference ... Rather Then ... A "Spiritual Ascension" !!

If you are saying that I will be "rescued", does that mean that my soul and body will be rescued or just the soul?

**Well We Could Rescue One Or Both Soles Of Your Shoes !! .... If That Is What You Want !! ... Though Whether The Rest Of The Shoe ... Remains Behind ... That Is Still A Question !! .... Hee Hee Hee !! .... As To Your 3rd Density Body ... Coming Aboard ... & Tranferrring Immediately ... Or Being Placed In Status ... That Depends Upon Cretain Agreements/Arrrangments ... Enacted Before You Animated The Body/Form !!

Or do you mean that both will be rescued in the sense that the physical body will change dimensions and I would be "beamed" up to a higher realm without having to go through a physical death?

**No No !! ... It Means ... That If You Are To Come Onboard ... To Be "Rescued" ... That Your Entire YOU ... Will Be Coming !! ... Your Physical Body ... As Well As Your ... Energy Essense Self ... Within That Body !! ...
Now As To Either Being Placed In Stasis ... Or Immediately Tranferrring Into A New Awaiting Body ... To Perform Service Functions/Duties ... That Depends ... On What You Had Agreed To Do !!

What about the rest of my family and friends. Can they be "rescued" as well? Why or why not?

**That Depends ... On Their Particular Agreements/Arrangments ... Before Animating Those Forms/Bodies !!

Thank you again ST in BG. & thank you for responding.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Bye for now.

Your friend, MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

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hmmmm..that sounds promising.... although I know better than to get my hopes up to high... will just see how it goes...whenever it goes....but I certainly appreciate your updates.... thank you...Sincerely, Silent Companion
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ST In BG

You have your way to see things like Obama is here to "play his part" etc...

**He Is There ... To Play His Role ... His Part !!

Hitler too played his part, but he was an evil person, or don't you agree he was ?

**Well That Story ... Has Never Been Fully Told !! ... As It Would Open ... A BIG Can Of Worms !! ... Of Things & People ... That Are Existing ... In Your Day !! ... Suffice To Say ... Of The Stories That Have Been Told Of This ... All Is NOT ... As It Seems !! ... And Not ... "All The Players" ... Or Their Roles ... Are Fully Known !!

I would say : he played an evil part.

**He Was Only The Figurehead ... Of What People Saw !! ... Not Of Who Actually ... Were "Running The Show" !!

I know you don't make the difference between good and evil, but we can say those who spread viruses through the world play also an evil part
?

**They Play A Role ... Of That Position !! ... In Response ... Others Play ... Of Their Roles ... Their Positions !!

By the way can you tell us, some people today say Hitler didn't kill Jews in concentration camps.

Did he or did he not ? What your idea about this ?

**He May Have Visited ... And Took Tours Of Camps ... He Was Not "Personally In Charge" Of These !! ... So Of His Actually & Physically Killing ... In Concentration Camps ... We Would Say The Odds Are ... Slim To None !! ... Though Others May Have !!

Million of Jews disappeared (died) during WW2, did they die in camps ?

**Not All No !!

**And Of Curiosity ... Of What Was Read ... There Was Going To Be ... A Public Release ... To Be Made "Open Public Record" ... Of "German Records Of That Time" !! ... This Was For Scholars, Researchers & For The
General Public !! ... Of This There Was A Preliminary ... Letting Certain Ones In ... To Research !! ... They Found In Their Researching ... In Comparing The Meticulous (Very Accurate & In Detail) ... German Records ... Against The "Released Figures" Of Those Who Died During That War ... & In Camps ... That The Numbers Not Add Up !! ... Indeed !! ... That The Figures That The Germans Stated In Their Records ... Was Much Much Lower In Number !!

**Such A Discrepancy It Is Supposed ... Would Have Raised ... Rather Awkward Questions ... In Which There Were "Concerned Parties" ... That Really Didn't Want ... This Information Available To All !! ... It Was Not That Long ... After That "Number Discovery" ... That One Did Not Hear ... Anymore About These Records !! ... Which Was Rather Strange !!!

Why did Hitler exterminate Jews, what was the purpose ?

**He Did Not Personally !! ... Again We Offer The Reply Above ... In Which ... That Story ... Has Never Been Fully Told !! ... As It Would Open ...A BIG Can Of Worms !! ... Of Things & People ... That Are Existing ... In Your Day !! ... Suffice To Say ... Of The Stories That Have Been Told Of This ... All Is NOT ... As It Seems !! ... And Not ... "All The Players" ... Or Their Roles ... Are Fully Known !! ... And That ...

**He Was Only The Figurehead ... Of What People Saw !! ... Not Of Who Actually ... Were "Running The Show" !!

Thanks !

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST In BG

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WHO Report indicates Swine Flu possibly weaponized

Thread: WHO Report indicates Swine Flu possibly weaponized

**The Thread Name ... Is "Incorrect" ... As This Is Not Just ... Of Related To Terrestrial "Pigs" ... It Also Incorporates That ... Of Avian (Bird) Influenza ... & Human "Influenza" ... So This Of Itself Says ... It Is ... A Genetic Engineered Construct !!

There is a flu in the States and Mexico, a "swine flu".

**It Is NOT ... Specifically ... A "Swine Flu" !! ... It Has Genetic Spliced In Elements ... Of Several Others !! ... Of Which This Was Purposefully Made/Created ... For Specific Effects !!

Is this also engineered ?

**You Bet It Is !!

If yes who is making that and why ?

**Those That Have This ... & Other Things In Reserve !! ... They Know That The Moments Draw Near ... And That "The Secret" (Of What Is To Come !!) ... Cannot Be Held Much Longer !! ... So Knowing That "Martial Law" ... Will Not Stop The Madness ... Once The Knowledge Gets Out ... The Aim Is ... To Purposely Create ... Such Genetically Engineered Diseases ... To Incapacitate And/Or Kill !! ... In This Way ... 1. These Individuals Will
Be Kept In Check ... Being Too Sick ... To "Storm The Castle" (As It Were) ... To Bring Out Those ... Who Are Responsible ... & To ... "String Them Up" !! ... 2. They Will Be Too Weak/Sick ... To Interfere ... To Perhaps Force Themselves Into ... Secure Safe Areas/Bunkers ... Built & Designed For Such "Elite" ... 3. And/Or ... Taking Their Supplies ... And Preventing These
"Elite", Their Loved Ones/Family, Colleges, Those So Chosen ... To Get To & In ... Their Safety Places !! ... 4. They Will Be Too Sick/Weak ... To Go On Raids For Supplies, Food, Ect. ... To Cause Destruction, Death ... 5. Or To Even Care ... That Nibiru & All Of It's Connective Things & Effects ... Is Soon To Arrive !! ... That Changes/Death ... Is Close At Hand !! ... As
They Themselves Are Going Through Their Own Suffering ... Perhaps Their Own ... Physical Death ... From Such Disease/Infections !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST in BG

While reading this it looks like this illness will break out and make all ill ? Even the Elite ? Don't they have a cure for themselves ?
Or is this just the wish of this Elite, their aim ?

How could they be held responsible of the arrival of Nibiru (I think this is what you meant with "the Secret") ?
Why should one "storm the castle" ?
Or did you talk about the financial meltdown ?


Several years ago I made a dream I could not understand it, now I do. We were (Me and my husband + my 2 boys) in the inner world, we were there as at the surface there were eruptions and storms. It was our shelter. It was a curious country, there was light but a silvery light, not a bright light like our sun. There was a sea with small waves, the surface was from also a silver color. We had a little house (without door and window, it was just open but without windowpane). The little house was just like done in one piece, just a place to meet in family and to sleep during the night which was not really a night as it was always some light, just a little less. Temperature was good warm but not hot. There were other people but there was no crowd. During the day the kids could run outside with other kids and play together, we could let them go without fear, there was no worry about accidents or rape, no danger.
We were there just waiting, time was long. My husband was anxious about what happened at the surface.
Then later we went in small spaceships and they brought us to the surface. All was very nice with gardens and wine yards, just wonderful and quiet, and from place to place little houses disseminate in the nature. All was so peaceful.
I understood that it was my previous region but it looked different (nicer, brighter etc..)
A wonderful dream....


hugs
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Greetings ST,

I had the same message several times today. And it went on and on.

**Oh You Did ?? ... Hmmm !!!

The pink Circles with a tail.. are large. They came from the Southwest to Northeast and another group from the West to East. They crossed in Northeast US. (Ohio/PA/ KY?)

**Most Curious !!!!

The circles with the tail (Nibiru) are getting larger (closer) They are spinning faster (soon ). The circles were pink. After a while they turned to red dust and the message ended.

**Very Very Curious Indeed !!!!
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**In Response From: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696 ... To: To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Hi Whispy,

hmmmm..that sounds promising....

**Yes Indeed !! ... It DOES Sound Promising !!!

although I know better than to get my hopes up to high...

**Yes ... What Should Happen ... If You Need To ... Get Your Hopes Down ?? ... Maybe One Of Those ... Small Ladders ?? .... Hee Hee Hee !!!

will just see how it goes...whenever it goes....but I certainly appreciate your updates....

**Yes Indeed !! .... And We Appreciate The Updates Too !!!

thank you...Sincerely,

**Indeed !! ... Many Thanks !!

Silent Companion
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((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

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**We Are Open To Receiving Questions "Quorum" !! ... Should You Choose To Ask ... We May Attempt To Answer ... Given Of Permissions !! ...

... However ... Of Posting To The Thread ...

**One Such Example From Your Posting ... & We Quote ...

"the entity behind ST in BG is a draconian reptilian grey it part is to deceive you further and it is a
master in it guises, it can portray itself as STO beings because understands the philosophy behind it but in it work it is clearly a STS entity look at the times it threatens those who expose it in this thread it has revealed it true colors many times but the public is to ignorant and blind to see it."

... Of That To ... Disrupt (For Viewers/Posters ... Who Come Here !!) ... With False Informations ... Disinformations ... Non-Informations & Propaganda ... Towards & About ... Extraterrestrial Beings (Ourselves & Others) ... & The Conduit ... This Is "Frowned Upon"
... Not Just By Ourselves ... But By "Others" !!

**Besides ... You Wouldn't Want To Make "Anu" ... "Grumpy" (Or Worse !!) ... Now Would You ??? ... Noooooooo !! ... We Didn't Think So !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Thank You For Understanding !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST in BG

While reading this ... it looks like this illness will break out and make all ill ?

**Well A Plan Was/Is ... To Incapacitate ... If Not Worse ... The Public !! ... As They Know ... That When "News Gets Out" ... About What Is Coming ... That "Martial Law" ... Will Not Be The Answer ... And Will Not Stop ... Hoards Of Mad/Crazed Individuals !! ... So The Thought Was/Is .. When The Moment Gets Close ... To Make Them So Sick ... That Is All They Will Think Of !! ... As To All Becoming Ill ... Well No !! ... But Enough Sick ... That It Will ... Greatly Thin Out The Crowds !!

Even the Elite ? Don't they have a cure for themselves ?

**Well The Elite (In Theory Anyway !!) ... Would Be Protected !!

Or is this just the wish of this Elite, their aim ?

**Well ... It's A Plan !! ... Of Which ... Many ... Were Privy ... Were Knowledgeable ... Of This !!!

How could they be held responsible of the arrival of Nibiru (I think this is what you meant with "the Secret") ?

**How Could It Be !! ... It Just Depends On How "Hissed" ... Certain Parties Become !! ... And Some Who Get "Hissed" ... Can Make The Very Grounds & Volcanoes Tremble & Shutter ... With Their Anger !!!

Why should one "storm the castle" ?

**There Would Be Those ... Who Would Wish ... Knowing Now What Is Coming ... To Get Into The "Elite's Safe Areas" !! ... To Drag Them Out ... String Them Up ... & Take Their Place ... In Safety & Security !!

Or did you talk about the financial meltdown ?

**No !! ... Was Not Talking About ... The "Artificial Financial Takedown"

Several years ago I made a dream I could not understand it, now I do. We were (Me and my husband + my 2 boys) in the inner world, we were there as at the surface there were eruptions and storms. It was our shelter.

It was a curious country, there was light but a silvery light, not a bright light like our sun. There was a sea with small waves, the surface was from also a silver color.

We had a little house (without door and window, it was
just open but without windowpane). The little house was just like done in one piece, just a place to meet in family and to sleep during the night which was not really a night as it was always some light, just a little
less.

Temperature was good warm but not hot. There were other people but there was no crowd. During the day the kids could run outside with other kids and play together, we could let them go without fear, there was no worry about accidents or rape, no danger.

We were there just waiting, time was long. My husband was
anxious about what happened at the surface.

Then later we went in small spaceships and they brought us to the surface. All was very nice with gardens and wine yards, just wonderful and quiet, and from place to place little houses disseminate in the nature. All was so peaceful.

I understood that it was my previous region but it looked
different (nicer, brighter etc..)

**Oh Very Very Nice !!!!

A wonderful dream....

**Yes Indeed !! ... & Thanks For Sharing !!!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Quorum - you can't just make blanket statements like this without backing it up with "meat". We, that are on this forum are not without knowledge ourselves. We are not just blindly following here.

Our years of search have touched on this thread and we have heard words of truth here, with no embellishments or promises of being saved.

From what I understand, our presidents, and so called leaders already given permission for Earth's minions to be "controlled".

Where do you get YOUR info? Most of what you said sounds like tons of stuff I have read about underground bases filled with reptilians & humans working together creating hybrids, including enslaving children, women, etc.... no need to elaborate further on this.

Why not share where you get your info from?

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Greetings ST in BG.

I forgot to add to my last post about the space travel "experience".

**Oh You Did ???

I forgot to specify that if I were to "train" in such and experience, would it be in the physical realm (3rd density
universe) or another higher realm.

**It Would Be ... Of A "Higher Plane" Of Teaching/Learning !!

I have been experiencing some of the most incredible experiences in the dream state as if they were right out of a George Lucas, Steven Spielberg or a Gene Roddenberry movie script.

**Hee Hee Hee !! ... Very Nice !!!!

Truly incredible.

**Well ... You Did Ask !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

But I would also like to have the same in the physical if
possible.

**4th Density Possible !! ... 3rd Density ... Not Possible !! ... (Well Not In Those "Clothes" Anyway !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!)
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Greetings again.

I would have replied sooner but I didn't have a chance to see your response.

But thank you for the response.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

As far as the question regarding "soul", I wasn't coming from a religous perspective but a spiritual one.

**Either Usage Is Incorrect !! ... Even The Word Usage Of
"Spirit/Spiritual" !!

So in essence, we do have a soul,

**No !! ... Not Of That ... "Word Usage" !! ... Such Of That Idea ... Would Be ... Incorrect !!

but one that is of pure energy (energy body) and does give life to the physical shell known as the physical body?

**If Is Of ... The "Energy Essenses" ... Of The Multifasceted Energy Matrix ... (Of Combined Lifetimes & Connections Of Lifetimes Of Experiences) .... That Of Which Animates The Physical Body !!... That Which Is ... The True You !!

But you say also that it has no "connection" to the "source" (energy source that created it)?

**Not Sure Where This Was Taken From ?? .... It Is To Say However ... That The Energies Are That ... Which Animate The Physical Body !!

And as far as ascension, I was not referring to a "lifting" in a physical sense.

**That Is ... The Only "Ascension" We Are Familer With !!

What ascending in my mind is one of a metaphor.

**Ahhh !!!

The metaphor represents that of evolving upward in a
spiritual/density/dimentional sense.

**They It Should Be Related ... In This Context !! ... Not In A "Relgious One" !! ... To Say "Ascention" To Us ... States Of ... Physical Uplifting ... Floating Up To The Ship ... Beaming Up To The Ship ... That Sort Of Thing !!

The impresion that I am getting over many years of hearing about the "coming of Christ", the "Messionic Age" (Messiah's arrival) and other religious prediction

**We See Of That Difficulty !!

as well as Niburu and my own personal spiritual "visions" is that we all are going to be participants in a spiritual acsension.

**Well ... Your Energies Are Going To ... Depart That Body/Form ... And You Are Going To Go ... To A Higher Teaching/Learning Plane !! ... To Animate Different Bodies !! ... Though This To Us Would Be More ... A Tranference ... Energy Tranference ... Rather Then ... A "Spiritual Ascension" !!

If you are saying that I will be "rescued", does that mean that my soul and body will be rescued or just the soul?

**Well We Could Rescue One Or Both Soles Of Your Shoes !! .... If That Is What You Want !! ... Though Whether The Rest Of The Shoe ... Remains Behind ... That Is Still A Question !! .... Hee Hee Hee !! .... As To Your 3rd Density Body ... Coming Aboard ... & Tranferrring Immediately ... Or Being Placed In Status ... That Depends Upon Cretain Agreements/Arrrangments ... Enacted Before You Animated The Body/Form !!

Or do you mean that both will be rescued in the sense that the physical body will change dimensions and I would be "beamed" up to a higher realm without having to go through a physical death?

**No No !! ... It Means ... That If You Are To Come Onboard ... To Be "Rescued" ... That Your Entire YOU ... Will Be Coming !! ... Your Physical Body ... As Well As Your ... Energy Essense Self ... Within That Body !! ...
Now As To Either Being Placed In Stasis ... Or Immediately Tranferrring Into A New Awaiting Body ... To Perform Service Functions/Duties ... That Depends ... On What You Had Agreed To Do !!

What about the rest of my family and friends. Can they be "rescued" as well? Why or why not?

**That Depends ... On Their Particular Agreements/Arrangments ... Before Animating Those Forms/Bodies !!

Thank you again ST in BG. & thank you for responding.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Bye for now.

Your friend, MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST in BG. Again, thank you for your response. I was not at all surprised in your response about the space travel experience in the higher realm. Most of all of my journey's have been in the dream state or the "OBE" (Out-of-Body Experience) state. And again, I have had (for a lack of a better word): awesome experiences. Just the other night, I had a dream that I was going to be a crew member of "Apollo". I was in this gigantic "rocket" with another member who seemed to be a superior officer (as I was a "guest"). He basically told me that I was about to go on a great journey. We were just going throught the motions of observation inside the vessel. It was not like I was in the antiquated space craft of the Saturn V ICBM. The ship looked exactly like it but much larger and with a huge panaramic window. BTW, there were no seats! You just stand up right (like in an exotic starship elevator). I had another dream like that where there were no seats in the craft. And just before take in that particular dream, my daughter and I made our way to the back of the ship to rest our back(s) on the back wall (bulk head). As soon as the ship left the ground, the walls and the entire crafts fuselage dissappeared, giving all of the passengers a 360 degree window seat!!! It was incredible. Any way, back to this other dream, where I was recently on a Saturn V look a like. I don't remember getting off the rocket, after being told I would be departing on a great journey. I remember suddenly being on the "bridge" of Gene Roddenbury's "Enterprise" number 1701-D (of Star Trek: The Next Generation). The ships' Doctor was also on the bridge right next to me. (I used to watch this series for years). Anyway, she told me something which I can't recall the words. But in stead of a response, I gave her a long romantic kiss. The actor who played Doctor Beverly Crusher (spelling?) was Gates McFadden and she was gorgous. Any way, that is kind of how that dream ended. Like I said, it was like a George Lucas meets Steven Spielberg and Gene Roddenbury Production dream. Totally out of this world. So, any way, when you were talking about ascention and getting "new bodies", is it possible that I can put in a recommendation? Like if I wanted to change my male body in for a better looking one that the female population would find exceptionally attractive, could I pick that one! Any thoughts? Thanks ST in BG, from MJ-13.
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Are people not realising your speaking to 4th density STS forces pretending to be 4th density STO forces, cause some information they have said is accuate but not all of it is some is disinformation to put you into false securitys.
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This is an option. However, humankind is so manipulated by their own thought, their emotions as most do not have the possibility to see Truth anyway on this plane. They are defendless people, who are enslaved. You can be right, You can be wrong. But they can't figure out.

The draconian plan has always been to control all humans who move into 4th density and those who remain in 3rd density, by which ever means is necessary.
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This is a well known theory. As I need to agree with the fact, there are most likely 'good', as 'less good' in any race. I don't see any race in Universe, pure 'evil'.
They are Souls, who learn and do recognize who they are.
The one does follow the left path, the other the right path.
Some both. But finally, they all come to one conclusion.
Proof of that in the Unity of the Higher Realms.

The object nibru is a artifical planetoid "Space ark" and contains invasion force to control those who progress and those who dont.
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I don't think they need an invasion force to take control
of the weak mind of humans. Most humans are sleeping zombies anyway, controlled by the players of the game of chess.

The new forms they are talking about are being made to control you as well to limit you and place you in a controled society that they run. There intention isnt to bring you STO teachings it is to bring you more enslavement once you give them permission too.
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But humankind is controlled, almost fully.
They are so dumb, they can't even work together, to break that enslavement. Because of fear and ignorance.
As most are selfisch anyway.

So they are controlled, even killed slowly
with all means.

Nothing will happen in may, the entity is decieving you the events are open in a sequence until end of 2012 by 2012 the sequence will be finished but there isnt going to be nibru arrive in may.
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Well, I had the impression there will be no PX in 2009.
But on the other hand, 'future' can always change
when You follow the linear path in time.

If you trust grey/reptilians/draconians you are not very smart they are very cunning entitys and can portray themselves as you want to hear to decieve you further.
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Well, they are smart. You can't deny that. As I really wonder how they run a high educated society, without
destroying it, in their supposed control structure, if they would be so 'evil'.
It seems they did not destroy their world, as they destroyed their species.
So they do have Love. If not, their civilization was 'caput'.

But if humankind does continue
like that, they will destroy their race. Honestly,
I think, if humankind continue to progress in this way,
they will be worse as what some do describe as reptilians. Sure.

Those who follow blindly are endangering themself, time you begin to question rather than believe without investigation. Same problem lead to creation of your religions dont let it happen again, the entity is not like it claims.
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There is belief and proof. They do work together as two hands on a body.

Those who looks for a rescue are the ones who will be a recycled product by the draconian forces in the new race were do you think the bio-organic material is coming from, anyone for a human blender.
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Well, you can kill the body,sometimes the mind, feelings.
But You can't kill the Soul.

In end they lose so do as you choose, they themselfs dont know they lose because they are only 4th density were as we are 6th density and see the outcome of the war.
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Well, tell me, were are the warriors of the good side ?
I presume they do meditate.
If this is a war, well, I can't only conclude,
the war is lost.

Almost full of humankind is controlled. Even those who are awaken a little bit are killed, murdered or do not get support. I saw multitudes of dark energies jumping on my best men. He was strong. But on Earth, it is not all about fighting. Working for the best of people. Sometimes, people want to reload. To have support. To have people who say to them, I love You. Especially the other sex. I do agree, You can say, this is all about ego.
When You are one with the Soul, You have it all. Well, that's indeed a very easy statement, when some of those, who pretend and claim to be of the Light side, are as in a trip stade. It is all okay, men. Everything does have a reason. So don't worry, you are in the sh.t Stay there.

Well...

Humanity will be brought together as one race from the coming events of the future and in doing so will unite and defeat them, but not without causualitys.

Quorum
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Well, I don't see Unity.
In fact I don't see an army at all.
I do see, a mass of people who are controlled,
other people who take advantage.
Dark energies who do have so much fun.

And I do see some of the army of Light.
How many ? I would even dare to say.

Earth is a very dark place currently.
Sadly.

And I am waiting, to kick them all out.
I simply wait to have the means.
And if not, I have nothing to blame myself.

Most who pretend to be Elders.
Well they meditate to much.
Scared to break this or that.
But in the mean time, the world gets worse.
Even at that point, it is almost too late.

I keep saying, Earth is not managed very well.
There was too much freedom to abuse other beings.
As there was too less support to help them out.

You can't ask a frog, he battle the bird who eats him.
the outcome will be clear.
But if You sent a cat, well...

Honestly, I want to kick them all out of the house.
Those who made this planet so dirty.
And if this is not possible,
well, the only conclusion is,
we need to go to another place.
A place to start all over again.

IN human form. The body design is suitable, to this vibrational plane, there are amazing beautifull creations, both in female and male versions. Some things could be still improuved. But I don't see any reason to change the shape to a mixed version of zeta, reptilian, etc. I simply like the design, such as some do like an old car. There are possibilities, but they did not come to fruit, well
maybe it takes thousand times to start all over again.
One time, it will succeed, but maybe this time, with more
'support' as supervision.

We will see.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

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Did we not even know of the existence of opposites prior to 3D?

**You Did ... But You Didn't !! ... Wanted To Experience This !!


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----Is knowing everything essentially the base state of being and then we are experiencing all the parts (thus the different lessons) that make up the whole to understand ourselves and how the parts integrate together to make the whole?

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It's may be just my feeling but how these years are difficult to live !! ...
Just in my life there are a lot of hindrances, ther is always a concern about something, never can I be quiet and serene, it needs a lot of energy to not go down.
Anyone else feeling like that ??

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Yes I am a total wreck. I've always had a stressful life to to my termed "anxiety disorder" but used to be able to find moments with peace and relief where I actually felt good even if just for a brief time.

Now I feel like every single moment of every single day I feel bad and can't get any relief anywhere. Like I'm constantly under immense stress no matter what I'm doing and I'm bored with almost everything in this world that I am able to do to top it off. There are extremely brief moments where I almost feel reasonably well but they are few and far between and I think I'm going to explode soon and it will be messy. Hee hee.. hoo :(
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Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 501151

**In Response To: Quorum 664952 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Quorum - you can't just make blanket statements like this
without backing it up with "meat".

**They Think They Can ... Just "Parroting" (No Insult To The Parrots Intended !!) ... Old, Tired & Worn Out Propaganda ... & Attempting To Keep It Recirculating ... & Believable !!

We, that are on this forum are not without knowledge ourselves. We are not just blindly following here.

**Agreed !!!

Our years of search have touched on this thread and we have
heard words of truth here, with no embellishments or promises of being saved.

**We Have Presented Of True Information ... Of What Has Been Allowed !!

From what I understand, our presidents, and so called leaders already given permission for Earth's minions to be "controlled".

**Well ... Lets Just Say ... They Are "Cooperating" ... In This Venture !!

Where do you get YOUR info? Most of what you said sounds like tons of stuff I have read about underground bases filled with reptilians & humans working together creating hybrids, including enslaving children, women, etc.... no need to elaborate further on this.

**Yes ... The Old, Tired & Worn Out Propaganda ... Regurgitated & Recirculated !! ... Sigh ... !!!!

Why not share where you get your info from?

**Hmmmm !!!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST In BG.

Again, thank you for your response.

**You Are Most Welcome !!

I was not at all surprised in your response about the space travel experience in the higher realm.

**Well ... Of ... "Another Level" !!

Most of all of my journey's have been in the dream state
or the "OBE" (Out-of-Body Experience) state. And again, I have had (for a lack of a better word): awesome experiences.

**Yes ... From Reading ... You Certainly Have !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Just the other night, I had a dream that I was going to be a crew member of "Apollo". I was in this gigantic "rocket" with another member who seemed to be a superior officer
(as I was a "guest"). He basically told me that I was about to go on a great journey.

**Oh Very Nice !!!

We were just going through the motions of observation inside the vessel. It was not like I was in the antiquated space craft of the Saturn V ICBM. The ship looked exactly like it but much larger and with a huge panoramic window. BTW, there were no seats! You just stand up right (like
in an exotic starship elevator).

**Heee Hee Hee !! ... Nice !!!

I had another dream like that where there were
no seats in the craft. And just before take off in that particular dream, my daughter and I made our way to the back of the ship to rest our back(s) on the back wall (bulk head).

As soon as the ship left the ground, the walls and the entire crafts fuselage disappeared, giving all of the passengers a 360 degree window seat!!! It was incredible.

**Sweet !!!!

Any way, back to this other dream, where I was recently on a Saturn V look a like. I don't remember getting off the rocket, after being told I would be departing on a great journey.

**Hmmm !!!

I remember suddenly being on the "bridge" of Gene Roddenberry's "Enterprise" number 1701-D (of Star Trek: The Next Generation). The ships' Doctor was also on the bridge right next to me. (I used to watch this series
for years).

**Nice !!!

Anyway, she told me something which I can't recall the words. But instead of a response, I gave her a long romantic kiss. The actor who played Doctor Beverly Crusher was Gates McFadden and she was gorgeous.

**Hee Hee Hee !! ... Thought You Would Like This !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

Any way, that is kind of how that dream ended. Like I said, it was like a George Lucas meets Steven Spielberg and Gene Roddenberry Production dream. Totally out of this world.

**Well ... We Can Tell You Officially ... That Was The Case !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

So, any way, when you were talking about ascension and getting "new bodies", is it possible that I can put in a recommendation?

**But Of Course !!

Like if I wanted to change my male body in for a better
looking one that the female population would find exceptionally attractive, could I pick that one!

**It's Possible !!

Any thoughts?

**Comments ... As We Went !!

Thanks ST In BG,

You Are Very Welcome !!

from MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

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----Is knowing everything essentially the base state of being and then we are experiencing all the parts (thus the different lessons) that make up the whole to understand ourselves and how the parts integrate together to make the whole?

**Why Yes !!! ... And More !!! ... Just Like A Rainbow !! ... Being Of The Rainbow ... The Whole ... & Experiencing It's ... Many Facets !!
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Yes I am a total wreck. I've always had a stressful life do to my termed "anxiety disorder" but used to be able to find moments with peace and relief where I actually felt good even if just for a brief time.

**Hmmmm !!!

Now I feel like every single moment of every single day I feel bad and can't get any relief anywhere.

**Well ... Things Have Been ... Speeding Up !! ... And Along With This ... You Are ... Sensing ... Of These Energies !! ... You Are "Sensitive" To Such Changes !!

Like I'm constantly under immense stress no matter what I'm doing and I'm bored with almost everything in this
world that I am able to do to top it off.

**You Would Be ... In Sensing The Changes That Are About To Happen !! ... Along With ... Coming From Another Place ... Another Level Perhaps ?? ... In Which The Things On/Of Terra/Earth ... Seem Rather Rediculous ... & Backwards !!

There are extremely brief moments where I almost feel reasonably well but they are few and far between

**Yes ... The Conduit Knows ... Exactly What You Mean !! ... Though It Won't Be Much Longer !!

and I think I'm going to explode soon and it will be messy. Hee hee.. hoo :(

**Well If You Are ... Make Sure You Put Down/Put Up ... The Plastic Sheets !! ... To Keep Everything "Self Contained" !! ... Much Easier On Cleanup ... For Others That Way !! ... Heee Heee Heeee !!!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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