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Hi ST in BG, Conduit, Team Paschats...and everyone...
I just saw a new thread elsewhere on GLP..as Truth 2 often recommends Dolores Cannon, I thought maybe people would be interested in the link.

Dolores Cannon: Moving Into a (5d) New Earth
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Thread: Dolores Cannon: Moving Into a (5d) New Earth

[link to www.in5d.com]
Thank you ST for all your answers..they are most informative.
Sincerely, Silent Companion
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Thank you Silent Companion,

Yes, I think Dolores Cannon's books, on her Sessions with ETs coming through, is one of the closest to getting some of the concepts of what is truly going on that is in publication. Of course, there are also some Misinterpretations/Misunderstandings in her "translations" of some of the material - but if one is willing to put forth the effort of reading these books there is a lot to Learn. A good start is her book "The Custodians - Beyond Abduction".

The best information, of course, is what ST has provided here. I created that Index, years ago, that helps a little in finding various basic subjects that ST has covered - but again, one has to make the effort to use it in order to Learn these things. The Regular Readers through the years, like you, already Know these things.

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Greetings: AM - RA - MA: User ID: 664801

Hi ST,

here's some beautiful pictures of the Pegasus -

[link to www.animaties.vridema.info]

**Thank You For The "Fantasy Pictures" ... Most Interesting !!

i still don't know why i saw this horse thing/it was a long time ago - im not sure the horse i saw had wings or not.

(a very noble looking being).

**Yes Pegasus Is ... A Very Noble Being !!

What does a Pegasus represent anyway?/....in mythology and symbology.

**Pegasus Represents ... Well ... Pegasus !!
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Pegasus (mythology), in Greek mythology, winged horse, son of Poseidon, god of the sea, and the Gorgon Medusa. Pegasus sprang from Medusa's neck when she was killed by the hero Perseus. Shortly after its birth, the magic steed struck the ground on Mount Helicon, and on the spot a
spring, later sacred to the Muses and believed to be a source for poetic inspiration, began to flow. All longed in vain to catch and tame the creature, and this became the obsession of Bellerophon, prince of Corinth.

On the advice of a seer, Bellerophon spent a night in the temple of the goddess Athena. As he slept, the goddess appeared to him with a golden bridle and told him that it would enable him to capture Pegasus. When Bellerophon awoke, he found the golden bridle beside him, and with it he easily captured and tamed the winged horse. Pegasus thereafter proved to be a great help to Bellerophon and aided the hero in his adventures against the Amazons and the Chimaera. Bellerophon was overcome by his own pride,
however. When he attempted to fly to the top of Olympus to join the gods, the wise horse threw him, leaving Bellerophon to wander disconsolately about, hated by the gods. Pegasus found shelter in the Olympian stalls and
was entrusted by Zeus with bringing him his lightning and thunderbolts.

**Interesting/Curious ... However As "Mythology" Goes ... It Is More "Fantasy Creation" ... Of "Invention" ... Rather Then ... What Actually Happened ... What Actually
Occurred !! ... One Such Example Being ... That "Pegasus sprang from Medusa's neck when she was killed by the hero Perseus" !! ... In That Which Would Be "More Believable" ... One Could Easily Suppose ... That There Was/Were ... A Genetic Engineer(s) ... One(s) Who Had Supreme Mastery In Creation ... And Created The Pegasi (More Then One Of The Species) ... Along With Unicorns ... & Other Beings ... Thought To Have Been Myth ... But Were More ... "Special Creations" ... Of Such Extraterrestrial Beings !!

regards

To You Too !!

(AM - RA - MA)

**Morning, Noon, Evening - Night !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST In BG

Does that mean that you and your colleagues are working on this flu to stop it ??

**Yes .. We Have Done So ... With Other "Attempts" ... At Death & Destruction !!

China had several years ago also a flu, (does anybody remember its name ?)

**No !!

Was it also an engineered flu ? This is what Russians claimed..

**Yes !! ... Of "Biogenetic Weapons" !! ... Tagged To Look For "Certain Vectors" ... "Certain Traits" In It's Victims ... And Selectively Attack Them !!

Is it true that ETs also worked on Bird flu to not let this
illness spread around the world and being fatal ?

**Yes ... As Stated ... Of Many Such "Attempts" ... To Weaken/Neutralize !! ... Such As ... The "Bioengineered "Bird Flu" !!

Since the beginning of this thread, is it always the same ST in BG who is answering ?

**Depends On ... Who Is At ... The Communications Station !! ... Or Of Those ... Passing By ... Or Perhaps Of Ones Visiting !!

What's the role of President Obama ?

**One That Was ... "Selected/Tapped" ... For That Position ... Of The Knowing Of ... The Forthcoming Changes !! ... To Be ... In That Position ... To Play That Role !!

(I'm not American but I have a deep respect of this man, I think he'll do the best for his people and the world).

**If This Is What You "Believe" !! ... This Is Just Simply ... The "Latest Image" ... For People To See !! ... While Those Who Are Actually ... "Giving Orders" ... Are "Behind The Scenes" !!

On what is he actually working ?

**Preparing For ... The Impending Arrival Of Nibiru !!

Thanks ST in BG

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: eye2sky: User ID: 656271

Hello, ST In BG!

It must be my 3rd density mind that prevents me from
understanding the severity of what punishments await TPTB, who have raped, pillaged and plundered (sorry for the redundancy of those three words, but it seems appropriate to express all of the damage done) Humanity ever since
they were given the responsibility of establishing trade routes on Terra/Earth many centuries ago.

**Yes ... It Would Be ... Difficult To Perceive/Understand ... Of Such Punishments !! ... Ancient As They May Be !! ... Unless ... You Were Understanding ... Witness To Such Happening ... & Knowing Of ... The System Of Honor & Of Justice !!

If one ceases to exist, how is that punishment to the one who is no longer existing, as they will have no knowledge that they no longer exist?

**It Would Be ... Difficult To Explain !! ... Other Then To Say ... The Problem Would Be Rendered ... Most Academic !! ... It Would Be Solved !!

For all the damage TPTB have done, which continues to this very day, it seems that eternal life as an amoeba might be a more fitting punishment for them.

**There Are Many "Possibilities" !!

At least then they will be forever sorry that they caused so much harm to so many others and to Terra/Earth. If they no longer exist, they would not have this constant reminder that they did anything wrong.

**Yes ... Perhaps !!

I understand that TPTB should be judged on a case by case basis because the nature and severity of their crimes vary, so my question speaks in a general sense regarding the worst of the worst.

**Yes Of Course !!

Thank you in advance for attempting to clarify this for me, ST.

You Are Very Welcome !!

eye2sky

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: eye2sky: User ID: 656271

Hi ST in BG!

Sorry I got timed out with my previous AC post. I guess I take too long to formulate my questions/statements.

**Understandable !!

And, thanks for your answers to yesterday's post!

**You Are Very Welcome !!

Here are some questions for today that are of a lighter nature:

1. In 4th density, will it be possible to lie down in a grassy field and not worry about insects, rodents and snakes bothering us? Same question regarding mosquitoes, while trying to enjoy a lovely twilight sky?

**Yes ... It Is Possible !!

2. I don't understand why it is taking the Elders so long (in linear time) to take action.

**They Have To Weigh ... All Decisions Carefully ... All Factors !!

TPTB have been relentless in their evil against the common man and Terra/Earth for centuries upon centuries upon centuries.

Are the Elders taking so long because one day is no different than one century to them?

**There Are ... Many Factors ... That Come With Decisions !! ... And All Have To Be Decided ... Most Carefully !!

If that is the case, I wish the Elders would be sensitive
to the fact that we on Terra/Earth have a VERY DIFFERENT perception of time. If we need to call 911 for emergency assistance, it would be nice to know that such assistance will not arrive 200 years later!

And, yes, I will concede that I asked to be here at this time (even though I have no recollection of that), but as I'm swimming towards a lifeboat, I didn't expect that I would be continually pushed away with a long pole. That's what it feels like as we await Nibiru's passage, who can be here in an instant, or so we are told and told.

**Yes ... It Can Be There ... In That Vicinity ... In An Instant !! ... However ... This Is A "Decision Rendered" ... By Those In Authority !! ... When THEY Say ... When They Agree ... To Go Ahead ... Then All Restraints Are Let Loose !! ... Until Then ... Until Such Is Said ... Then One Waits ... Even Though The Plant/Planetary Spaceship ... May Be ... Close At Hand !!

3. In all seriousness, ST, can you give us something(s) that will lift our spirits as we await transition to 4th density (assuming I am one of the deserving ones)?

**What Did You ... Have In Mind ???

Perhaps you can tell us that we will no longer have mundane chores, such as washing clothes, taking out the trash, cooking, cleaning, mowing the lawn, doing house repairs and working 9 to 5, etc. Those things are negative in nature.

**You Can Relax ... Of These Things !! ... They Are ... "Taken Care Of" !!

Perhaps you can also tell us that we will be able to have/create whatever we like for a meal or snack,

**Within Reason Yes !! ... Of That Which Is ... Biologically Compatible ... For Your Unit/Form !! ... Of Your "Dietary Regimens" !!

or that we can take a short space ship excursion to visit another planet,

**This Can Be So !!

or that intimacy will be a very free and joyful experience (without fear of pregnancy, disease, jealousies or hurt
feelings),

**Yes !! ... And "Outimacy" Too !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

or that we will be free to pursue our lifelong dream,

**It Depends On What ... The "Lifelong Dream" Is !!

or that we will be able to create a winter ski resort for all to enjoy,

**Easily Done !!

or do other things that we cannot even imagine, thus do not even know to ask the question?

**Yes ... That Too !!

Please give us more to be hopeful about, rather than so much focus on the impending death and destruction brought on my Nibiru's cleansing action, which is not your fault, as you respond to the questions given.

**Well ... If You Ask On These "Other Things" ... We May Respond !! ... But You Need ... To Ask !!

4. Is floating about your ship like being weightless, except that you otherwise have some force to keep you in one place, as when standing or sitting?

**Something Like That !!

5. Do ET's flirt with each other, or is that strictly a 3rd
density activity?

**Depends On The Species ... The Individuals !!

Is it common knowledge that an ET (male or female) might
be involved in more than one relationship? That creates nothing but problems in 3rd density, as you well know.

**Such Is Not A Problem ... Where We Are !!

6. Do ET's play board games or cards, or do puzzles, or
knit/crochet, or take photos, or ride bikes, or do any 3rd density-like activities, hobbies, sports that we enjoy?

**You Will Have To Be "Surprised" !! ... Suffice To Say ... We Have Many Choices ... For Relaxation ... For Entertainment !! ... And This Entirely Depends ... On The Individual ... The Species, Ect. !!

If not, what are some of the activities enjoyed by ET's aboard ship?

**Again ... You Will ... Have To Be "Surprised" !!

7. What is it like living on ship?

**A "Different Experience" ... Then You Have There !!

Do you have private rooms?

**Yes !!

Do you have set times for rest?

**We Have ... Such Moments !!

Do you have a closet with various articles of
clothing, or do you instantly create whatever you need to wear at that particular moment?

**We Can Do Both ... & More !!

Do you have robots for doing mundane chores?

**Not "Robots" ... As You Would Understand !! ... As Certain Things Are ... "Self Maintaining" !!

There are so many things you can tell us, ET,

**There Are Many Things ... We Could Express ... If We Were Allowed ... To Do So !! ... However ... We Are Not Always Allowed !!

but, to use a terrestrial expression, getting information from you is "like pulling teeth." Can't you be a little
more forthcoming about life in 4th density, ST?

**When This Is Allowed ... Of That Moment ... & When Asked !!

Thanks, ST, for any enlightenment you can give us in answering these questions.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

**It would be nice to have information of a more positive
nature to contemplate.

**Information Is Neither ... Positive ... Nor Negative !! ... It Is Simply ... Information !!

As for Quorum, it's obvious what vibratory plane he will be
going to,

**Yes ... Quite Obvious !!! ... For Their Attempts To Interfere !!

and it won't be 4th density.

**Indeed ... In The Very Least ... A "Refresher Course" Is Needed !!

Too bad for him!!!

**Yes ... Most Unfortunate !!

eye2sky

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST...

Yesterday, (Saturday April 25, 2009) as I said, the message was that of hearts coming from the South/Southwest with birds intermingled with the hearts. Then the hearts turned to dust and everything was dusted with the pink.

**Yes ... This Is True !!

I have been thinking about this. Especially since this morning (Sunday: April 26, 2009) I had another message. The last part showed the bird (flapping wings)...coming from the South/Southwest (Gulf of Mexico area.. like
before). One stream of Birds went to Northeast (New York area). Another line went North..(Michigan/Wisconsin area). Another line went Northwest (Montana/Washington?)

Another went to West (California/Oregon?) I think there were more lines.... but was hard to follow them all before disappearing.

**Hmmmm !!!!

Could these birds from Mexico? mean the spread of Bird Flu? (the Swine/Bird/Human bioweapon?) Is this what they have been trying to tell us? The wind brings death by birds?

**Well The Feeling Is ... NO !! ... As Consider The Thought !! ... This "Swine/Bird/Human Bioweapon" ... Is Not Simply Of "Avian Origin" ... Just As It Is ... "Pushed/Promoted/Propagandized" ... As Being "Swine Flu" (Which It Is Not !! ... (Another Bioengineered (Created) Disease !!) ... It Is Parts Of At Least (3) Different "Flu's/Diseases ... That Have Been ...
Purposefully ... "Gene Spliced" Together ... To Combine Of Their Detrimental Effects !!

Stream of hearts/spades/birds....( 7.. 8.. 9.. )

**Which We Feel ... Is Interrelated In Part ... Of Relationship ... To Releasing This ... "Bioengineered Illness" ... At This Time !! ... As "Their" Thought Would Be ... That Things Are ... Very Close At Hand !!

There was another part of the message. It was writing. Either it was a language that looked familiar but I could not read exactly.. or American that was out of focus.

**Now That Is Very Very VERY Strange !! ... As When The Conduit Was Taking ... An Afternoon NapToday ... He Was Seeing Close-up ... Of Something On "Old Parchment" ... Old Paper" ... Of Which There Was "Familiar Writing"
On This ... But It Was ... Somewhat "Out Of Focus" ... And "Scrolled Up ... From Bottom To Top ... Read In A ... "As The Ox Plows" Fashion !! ... This Writing Went By ... Page After Page ... Very Very Quickly ... Could Not Make It Out Clearly ... Though I Knew ... It Was That ... Which I Was Knowledgeable Of !!

As I tried to decipher it would go out of focus.

**Hmmmm !! ... And Very Very Similar There Too !!! ... Along With Of The Conduit Seeing ... That This Writing ... On These Pages (One Page See (Though Would Be Of Many Pages ... If The All The Writing Was Put Down To Paper !!) ... Moved By ... Very Quickly !!

But there was a long page with many paragraphs. But it looked so familiar.

**OH Yes !! ... Many Of These !! ... Though For The Conduit ... In The ... "As The Ox Plows" Fashion/Way Of Reading !!

But I am also frustrated that I could not understand. But to be writing.. it must be urgent.

**OH Yes !! ... Frustrating !! ... And A Sense Of Urgency ... For This To Be ... Of Writing !!!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 665170

Hi ST,

The following is such a beautiful description of the "evolving" Earth through the various densities,

**Thank You For The Compliment !!

But just to try to make up my mind about the "density question", would you say that the "time of the Dinosaurs" corresponds more to 2nd density phase or the beginning of the 3rd density?

**As The Beings Were Existing & Interacting ... On/Of ... A 3 Dimensional Scale(s) !! ... (A Bit Of A Pun There !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!) ... We Would Say ... Such Was Of ... The Lessons/Teaching ... Of 3rd Density ... Of
That Vibrational/Plane ... Of That Dimension/Area Of Space ... At That Particular Moment ... As Seen Perhaps From ... (In Linear Thought) ... Earlier On !!
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Hi ST,

I have this question in my mind that I'm sure is in the mind of many people that read this thread too and you probably may have already answered similar questions before...

Well... I'm not totally sure about Nibiru's passage, not as you and others possibly are, but I find the idea of a complete "birth/rebirth" or planet Earth in a more "evolved" state of existence completely fascinating and sure I would like to see it happen, including Nibiru's
passage etc. I mean, I'm not *against* the idea itself, I even understand of it's necessity right now, but I have this doubt...

**OH OH !! ... (OH OK !!)

Having said that, the question is: what would you say IF (big *if*) Nibiru doesn't show up *AT ALL* in the next few months, say not in May, not in June, etc., until December.

**Don't Know !! ... As All Things Are ... Potentialities !!

Will you still say to people to prepare to a passage "very
soon", "maybe next week" or "next month"?

**Such A Thought Would Be Raised ... When That Moment Arrives !!

That it can be here "at any moment" as you've said before?

**As It Can !! ... It Is Nearby ... By The Way !!

Or do you think you could "change your mind"??

**Well If The Mind Is Tired ... We Can Do That !! ... Pop The One Out ... Put In The Other ... Put The "Tired Mind" ... Onto Soak !! .... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Siriusly Though ... As To ... Changing Our Perspectives ... On The
Impending Arrival ... No !! ... As It Is ... & Will Arrive !! ... As To The Exact Moment Of This ... Many Factors Come Into Play !! ... So Many That ... It Is Difficult To Keep Track Of These !! ... Basically Though ... It Is Nearby ... & Waiting ... For The Moment ... To Have (Of Your Understandings) ... The Call To Be Made ... The "Go Signal" ... That Gives It Permission ... To Go Ahead ... To Proceed With The Cleansing !! ...

**For A Visualization ... It Would Be As If You Had ... Hmmm ?? ... A Heavy Rock ... Suspended Above !! ... And This "Rock" ... Is Held In A ... "Beam" (For Lack Of Terms !!) ... The Rock Is Huge & It Will Cause Great Death & Destruction !! ... Any Interference With This Rock ... Will Cause Not A Suspension Of It's Effects ... But It To Drop !! ... The Rock Is There ... It Is Going To Drop ... It Is Being "Held Up" ... By Those That Have This Ability !! ... However It Is Not Known ... By Those There ("In Power") ... WHEN ... This Will Occur ... Only That It Will !! ... So While The Common People ... Do Not See The Rock ... Or The Beam ... Those Of Your "In Power/In Control/In Charge" ... Know Of This ... They See It Most Clearly ... Most Plainly ... And Of This ... As To The World's Populace ... They Have Very Few Options ... Open To Them !! ... Their Only Thought Is ... What Can We Do ... To Save Our Own Skins ???

Please don't see this question as an attempt to disturb the thread

**Yes Of Course !!

or spam in any way.

**Not Unless ... You Included ... A Nice Slice ... Of "Russian Goat Cheese" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

It's just an honest question and I know you'll honestly answer it.

**Yes ... We Understand !!

Thanks ST, as always!!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 665170

Hi ST,

In the following answer you said the beings in 4D have a
different way of seeing things

**This Is Correct ... They Do Have ... Of Each Of Their Species/Races ... A "Different Way" ... Of Seeing Things !!

and that there is not the duality of STO versus STS,

**This Would Be Correct !! ... As Such Was More ... "An Invention" ... Used By A "Governmental Program" ... To Express Certain Thoughts ... From A "3rd Density Perspective" ... In Of The Teachings/Lessons Of Polarization ...
Of Opposites !!

but in the following answer you just use the STS expression
regarding our politicians (with which I agree BTW!:-)

**We Were Expressing Of Attitudes ... Of Perception ... Of How They Approach ... Of Their Doing ... Of Their Agendas & Motives ... In Profit ... Of Gain To Them ... For Themselves !! ... In Exception & Apart From ... Sharing With Others !! ... It Is Not However ... Of "Playing Off" ... Of STS (Service To Self) Versus ... STS (Service To Others) ... Which Is ... An Entirely Different Thing !!

There are *wars* between beings that are of 4D level?

**There Are ... Disagreements ... Which At/Of Moments ... Need To Be Addressed ... By Consol !!

Would you say that the people who do such wars (if these wars exist) is life-loving and caring people or selfish?

**Of Those That Have "Disagreements" ... They Have ... Differing Views/Differing Viewpoints !!

Would you say that people/beings of 5D are life-loving and
caring (for life and each other)?

**Those That Exist In 5th Density ... Of Ethereal/Energy State ... Are Of ... Other Lessons/Teachings !! ... And Cannot Be Compared ... To Other Levels ... Of Which Their Lessons/Teaching ... Are Different !!

Thanks ST.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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**In Response To: Silent Companion ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Thank you Silent Companion,

Yes, I think Dolores Cannon's books, on her Sessions with ETs coming through, is one of the closest to getting some of the concepts of what is truly going on that is in publication.

**It Is Of Most Curious Material !!

Of course, there are also some Misinterpretations/Misunderstandings in her "translations" of some of the material -

**This Does Happen On Occasion !!

but if one is willing to put forth the effort of reading
these books there is a lot to Learn.

**Yes Indeed !!!

A good start is her book "The Custodians - Beyond Abduction".

**Indeed So !! ... And Might We Say ... It Has A "Very Nice" Painting On The Cover Too !! ... Yes We "Posed" For It !! ... Though There Was Some "Artistic License" Added Too !! ... Our Modesty Is Showing !! ... "Blushing Pink" Of Our ... White Skin !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

The best information, of course, is what ST has provided here.

**Thank You !! ... We Try !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I created that Index, years ago, that helps a little in finding various basic subjects that ST has covered -

**Yes You Did !! ... And We Thank You ... For Doing So !!

but again, one has to make the effort to use it in order to Learn these things.

**Very True !!

The Regular Readers through the years, like you, already Know these things.

**That's True !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Hi ST,

Thank you so much for the honesty of your following answer,

..........
Having said that, the question is: what would you say IF (big *if*) Nibiru doesn't show up *AT ALL* in the next few months, say not in May, not in June, etc., until December.

**Don't Know !! ... As All Things Are ... Potentialities !!


Will you still say to people to prepare to a passage "very
soon", "maybe next week" or "next month"?

**Such A Thought Would Be Raised ... When That Moment Arrives !!


That it can be here "at any moment" as you've said before?
**As It Can !! ... It Is Nearby ... By The Way !!

Or do you think you could "change your mind"??
...........

... As To ... Changing Our Perspectives ... On The
Impending Arrival ... No !! ... As It Is ... & Will Arrive !! ... As To The Exact Moment Of This ... Many Factors Come Into Play !! ... So Many That ... It Is Difficult To Keep Track Of These !! ... Basically Though ... It Is Nearby ... & Waiting ... For The Moment ... To Have (Of Your Understandings) ... The Call To Be Made ... The "Go Signal" ... That Gives It Permission ... To Go Ahead ... To Proceed With The Cleansing !! ...

**For A Visualization ... It Would Be As If You Had ... Hmmm ?? ... A Heavy Rock ... Suspended Above !! ... And This "Rock" ... Is Held In A ... "Beam" (For Lack Of Terms !!) ... The Rock Is Huge & It Will Cause Great Death & Destruction !! ... Any Interference With This Rock ... Will Cause Not A Suspension Of It's Effects ... But It To Drop !! ... The Rock Is There ... It Is Going To Drop ... It Is Being "Held Up" ... By Those That Have This Ability !!

... However It Is Not Known ... By Those There ("In Power") ... WHEN ... This Will Occur ... Only That It Will !! ... So While The Common People ... Do Not See The Rock ... Or The Beam ... Those Of Your "In Power/In Control/In Charge" ... Know Of This ... They See It Most Clearly ... Most Plainly ... And Of This ... As To The World's Populace ... They Have Very Few Options ... Open To Them !! ... Their Only Thought Is ... What Can We Do ... To Save Our Own Skins ???

...................
Farewell For Now !!
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I can only imagine the amount of effort you're putting on this thread, to bring us your truth.

Regarding the last part of your answer, how can those people "in power" (TPTB) know so much?
Do they have an "authorized informant"??

Do they have the technology to detect Nibiru?

Thanks ST!
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Yesterday, less than an hour before sunset I saw two jets leaving chemical trails in the sky.

When the sun set, a huge star became visible.

A yellow light shone forth from the object, which was at least three times wider than the north star.

Could it be..?
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Yet I just cannot figure out why this 3rd density existence
we're experiencing continues to persist onwards and onwards despite the atrocities that happen here daily which supposedly propel Nibiru faster, yet at the same time it is somehow far overdue for its passage.

**Of This ... There Are ... "Checks & Balances" !! ... Or To Say It This Way ... In Military Terms ... The Infantry Does Not Go Ahead ... Does Not CHARGE Into Battle ... Without The Commander On The Field .. Giving The Loud Signal ... To ... CHARGE Call !! ... (With Upraised Sword !!) ... So Of This ... In This Analogy ... There Are Those ... Who Are In Charge ... That Decide ... When It Is ... Of The Moment To Proceed !! ... When It Is "Time" To Go Ahead !! ... Until Then ... Nibiru Waits ... Like A Formula One Race ... Of A Formula One Vehicle ... At The Starting Grid ... Revving It's Engines ... Waiting For The Drop ... For The Green "Go" Flag !! ... Then ... It Will
Happen !! ... But Not Until ... !!

Please help me understand ST, what is going on... enough is
enough. Please let us go home.

**On That Level ... It Is Extremely Difficult To Understand !! ... On Our Level ... It Is Difficult Enough To Understand !! ... Though Rest Assured ... As We Have Stated ... These Things Are To Happen ... Will Transpire ... Will Occur !! ... And As Stated ... As Evidence That Such Is Close At Hand ... Is Of The Recent Release To The Public ... Of Such "Terrestrially
Created" ... Deadly Organisms !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG



----So even though violence and actions of killing and destruction on earth propel Nibiru forward or attract it to earth, in the end it does not neccesarily affect the passage as that comes down to being(s) aboard Nibiru giving the go signal. To some extent TPTB may have had a bit of a free pass to create death and destruction here to distract us without causing the passage because if other factors are not in place then Nibiru will continue to be held up until the right moment.

----I've come to think that maybe Nibiru being close is not really a sign that a passage is imminent as it can be anywhere it needs to be, thus whether it is right here or not should not have much affect on timing of the passage. If necessary it could go from the opposite side of it's orbit to passing right by us in an instant if necessary. Likewise it could be right on our doorstep and be held up for years or decades or longer. So it being close does not really say much as if the moment is not right it will continue to be held up. The average of 3652-3657 linear years has little meaning in this context as well as time between each passage would be of varying lengths due to the controlled spaceship nature of Nibiru. Am I somewhat correct in these thoughts?

----Also how can you believe that the time is near based on terrestrial release of a disease? You say you can calculate far better than those on earth as to how close the passage is... so therefore your own calculations should be far more accurate an indicator than the relying on the actions of terrestrials who are more or less guessing that it is close.

----Thanks for anything you can clear up and I still have my fingers and toes crossed that May 15th is the date, but I don't feel like it is. Will have to wait and see, nothing else I can do. Thanks.
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Darn, my quoting didn't work in the last post, hope you can figure it out. I put ---- in front of the new material. Thanks.
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Are people not realising your speaking to 4th density STS forces pretending to be 4th density STO forces, cause some information they have said is accuate but not all of it is some is disinformation to put you into false securitys. The draconian plan has always been to control all humans who move into 4th density and those who remain in 3rd density, by which ever means is necessary.

The object nibru is a artifical planetoid "Space ark" and contains invasion force to control those who progress and those who dont. The new forms they are talking about are being made to control you as well to limit you and place you in a controled society that they run. There intention isnt to bring you STO teachings it is to bring you more enslavement once you give them permission too.

Nothing will happen in may, the entity is decieving you the events are open in a sequence until end of 2012 by 2012 the sequence will be finished but there isnt going to be nibru arrive in may.

If you trust grey/reptilians/draconians you are not very smart they are very cunning entitys and can portray themselves as you want to hear to decieve you further.

Those who follow blindly are endangering themself, time you begin to question rather than believe without investigation. Same problem lead to creation of your religions dont let it happen again, the entity is not like it claims.

Those who looks for a rescue are the ones who will be a recycled product by the draconian forces in the new race were do you think the bio-organic material is coming from, anyone for a human blender.

In end they lose so do as you choose, they themselfs dont know they lose because they are only 4th density were as we are 6th density and see the outcome of the war. Humanity will be brought together as one race from the coming events of the future and in doing so will unite and defeat them, but not without causualitys.

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Hi Quorum, good to see you here!!:-)

Can you say more about Nibiru? What about New World Order and all these things that are happening now?
Too much materialism don't you think?

Nibiru is a artifical planetoid a space ark were the nephilim and annunki have had many generations during this long process of there agendas under the guidence of the draconian empire through the reptilian greys which are one form of reptilian for 3rd density as are the tall whites.

I don't want to argue with ST, but there are some ideas here that I don't agree either and in fact some seem contradictory at times.

The entity is a programer.

But I think he/they are doing some effort to bring "spiritual" perception on a world filled with materialistic "stench"! (that's how badly I fell it!)

They are part of a agenda to program the minds of the public into accepting the agenda of the new bodys which they want the souls to willingly incarnate into, the truth of the spiritual mater is much different than this entity presents and this entity is a intelligent one and has easily decieved the ignorant.

Hope to hear more from you!

Cheers!!
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One last thing they play all sides understand please that draconian empire created the very forces which rule your world and have created such mistery now because it seems to you they are a seperate race of beings and groups you will easily fall for the deception that they are coming to help you.

truth is they are playing both sides and using all means necessary to decieve you yet again, the entity behind ST in BG is a draconian reptilian grey it part is to decieve you further and it is a master in it guises, it can portray itself as STO beings because understands the philosphy behind it but in it work it is clearly a STS entity look at the times it threatens those who expose it in this thread it has revealed it true colors many times but the public is to ignorant and blind to see it.

It is wise to research and investigate everything because the times you are in now many will come in name of light and portray themself as beings of love but they are in there intentions a deception and a agenda against the human soul "look for control that is there way".

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Hi (almost) everyone there, take care of the nasty and outreageous biological mess that seems to had been taken out of a pandora box. This virus seems serious, i found Feru´s thread interesting and posted there some humble suggestions that i would not repeat here. Take care, might we go ahead and defeat this irrational and unwise mistake ; )

Hi Vvizz, well... i shall also consider things that are out of the reach of science... surely ; ) Sometimes your words had quite a lot of wisdom too... thanks, take care ; ) And please try to don´t think on revenges, that´s not good for anyone... we shall seek peace and comprehension ; )

Hi ST, you intriguing mistery... well, thanks for trying to comment on some of my comments of which i feel prompted to have more thoughts (+)... despite it seems that we have some unreconciliable differences of knowledge / convictions ; )

Best hopes for a better world & Farewell for ever ; )

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I recommend you to have a critical glance (take care, some of them do make mistakes too...

but nevertheless you are easily allowed (very easily so!
and specially... claim that everything on Earth would be
completely destroyed, transformed in ways that would leave nothing of what is or had been,

***This Is Correct !! ... Though For Us ... It Is Not A "Claim" ... But A Fact !!

++ I found your "fact" quite fictional, hopefully.


ways that are not congruent even with saltational equilibria or catastrophist view of natural history, ways that are not physically sound/explainable, ways that are in contradiction with the biodiversity of life itself

***Your Arguments Are Based In ... Lack Of Knowledge !! ... That Which You Do Not Know There !! ... Therefore Such Would Be ... A Wasteful Expenditure Of Your Energies !!

++ Really? Not exactly so.


and nevertheless... you claim that biodiversity is not relevant to what is being said?!

***It Is ... An Entirely Different Subject ... Which Of ... What Is To Occur ... What Is To Happen ... Does Not Apply !! ... Such Perhaps WOULD Apply ... When It Comes The Moment ... To Once Again ... Create/Adapt ... Of Plant
Forms, Animal Forms ... Life Forms ... In Which They Would Be Able To Exist ... (Including The Creation Of Biological Habitats/Areas) ... Of The Exposures To The Higher Energies/Vibrations ... Of The Dimension/Area Of
Space ... That The Newly Cleansed Terra/Earth ... In 4th Density ... Will Be !! ... Until Then ... Such Thought Of "Biodiversity" ... Would Not Correspond !!

++ I found your claims ridiculous... not to offend but you don´t seem to know how marvelous complex biodiversity is and how extremely improbable and difficult it would be for your explanation being truth... for biodiversity being rebuild each time after complete removal and still showing the complex and amazing relationships it shows... for a civilization... no matter how advanced... being able and willing to try such things. Isn´t it expectable that i cann´t agree with your view, that i will find it unbased and in contradiction with what we see?


and that you are not allowed to explain the reasons... and that there is a sense to this great non sense. Please!

***We Just Did !! ... "Briefly" ... For Your "Understanding" !! ... We Forget That You Use "Concepts" ... Without Understanding ... Of Their
Correlations ... Their Meanings ... Their Applications !! ... So This Was Allowed ... When We Saw ... Of The Confusion !!

++ You did? Hmmmmmm... well, you just said something like "trust our explanation and believe as given things"... is that understanding? I doubt it.


What could possibly prepare someone to what you refer?

***We Can !! ... As We Are Doing This ... Constantly !! ... We Are Teaching ... Though Not Necessarily ... On That Level ... Or The Place ... Where You Are At !! ... Such As All ... (Yes Even You !!) ... Are Being "Educated/Reeducated" ... Into The Nature & Ways Of Things ... Of What Is Coming ... What You Are Going To Be Doing ... Where You Are Going To Be ... Many Many Many +++ Things !!

++ You? ... actually you just seem to be giving some nightmare scenarios without enough explanation or basis and claiming everything will be destroyed/erased/changed in a complete way... how could you expect a rational thinker to agree with you or even found something meaningfull or illustrious/wise on such... claims?


For what sake should we know any of this if there is some truth in your scenarios?

***For The Understanding ... The "Sake" Of Knowledge !!

++ Perhaps you have to rethink on your own claims? I found some hillarious/ironic sense on your "explanations"...


But, fortunately, there is not so much... and almost none regarding those devastating nightmares. The chains of life had not been broken and there is no reasons for them to be broken any soon. I choose to consider, to be convinced, of
what is backgrounded with evidences...

***Yes ... You Are ... What Do They Call It There ?? ... "A Hard Sell" !! ...

++ What you expect from a scientist? Well... i am not as some fellows that quickly swamp their curiosity and concentrate on boring methods and overespecialized tiny "works and (pseudo)comprehensions"...
of course i would question! ; )


The Constant One ... Who Needs Their ... Terrestrial "Proof In Hand" !! ... "Evidences" !! .... Sorry To Inform You ... But Nibiru ... (Neither Of It's Satellites/Moons) ... Can Fit In Your Hand !! ...

++ Of course not, ha... i neither asked for such a thing...


Though There Are Things That Can ... Which Are Representation Of This !! ... Consider Both Forms ... Of The Menorah !! ... They Both Represent ... Nibiru (Center Position) ... And To Each Side ... It's Satellites/Moons !! ... Here Are (2) Links ... One Of The "Seven Branched Menorah" .. The Menorah (Temple) ...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

***And The Correct One ... The "Eight Branched Menorah" ... The Menorah (Hanukkah) ...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

++ The Menorah? And you said this was forgotten... well i was not thinking of that kind of "explanations" either... but it is somewhat sugestive/curious... however there seem to be other explanations for its shape and numbers. There is nothing that sustain your claim... or is it? What would sustain it?


***Both Are Used In Sacred Jewish Ceremonies & Celebrations ... But Their Meanings/Understandings ... Have Been Lost !!

++ So you say, they were lost... but this remains unproven.


***As Stated ... Both Represent Nibiru (Center Position) ... With The Outer Positions Representing Of Nibiru's Satellites/Moons !! ... The Discrepancy Between The Two ... As To 6 Satellites/Moons ... (3 To Each Side) ... Versus ... 8 Satellites/Moons (4 To Each Side)

***The Correct Number Of Satellites/Moons ... Can Be Attributed To A Number Of Things ... One Being ... That These Were .... Passed Down Informations/Observations ... Both Terrestrially & Extraterrestrially ... And Of Ancient Languages ... Which May Have Been ... Inadvertently Mistranslated/Misunderstood ... Of Their
Original Tongues !! ...

++ Is this more than a weird hypothesis on the air? Concerning proofs for signs that might refer to this Nibiru from the records and objects of past and present cultures... i found the Eagles/birds and the winged suns so well distributed among many ancient cultures much more suggestive. Within the Maya (popol vuh) it we found that Vucub Caquix was an arrogant lord that tryied to supplant the Sun, bringing darkness and... as for this mayan (god) being shooted down by Hunahpu... for the cycle to continue and an era to start again... and there is it on the stones of many temples on Palenque and some other cities... the eagle/bird passing over the tree of life depicting a galactic allignment with a serpent. There are all those relations to the dragons/reptiles/serpents in the Mayan and other mesoamerican cultures... the patterns on the temple ornamental walls of plenty of cities, the sculptures of the Earth´s monster (imix) and the kukulcan/quetzalcoatl portraits of the Maya and the Toltec... it is quite a lot of coincidence for the center of the galaxy being really between Ophiuccus, Scorpio and Saggitarius it seems. But the similarities between distant cultures go further, we found dragons not just in ancient America but in the works of ancient China, in the nordic cultures, as well as in some semitic and hellenistic traditions. I found that quite intriguing. Another quite misterious sign seems to be the horned sculptures, some having to do with the minotaur, with the minoic culture... but some coming farther from the past, from the sumerian and other mesopotamian cultures... but which also shows in some allusions/sculptures of Horus... and also appear on catholic representations of the virgin, in the shape of a tiny moon over which she appears to rise (and which appears as early as with Sumerian godesses... it seems). There are plenty of intriguing clues... but of course there seems not to be a conclusive one among such sources. Not one that we are widely aware about, at least.


Such For An Example Would Be ... That The Hebrew Language ... Is A Changed Version ... Of Ancient Cuneiform ... Which Was The Language Of The S(h)umerian People ... Of Which Both ... The Jewish People ( Includes Those Of The Land Of Israel & Elsewhere !!) & The
Palestinian People ... Are From The Same Root Stock/Family !! ... They Are In Effect ... Brothers & Sisters ... To One Another !!

++ So it is in many ways, indeed... although the cultures are different now and there is manipulation by other parties with created interest involved.


in other words, i just have to "choose" to DOUBT and cast MAJOR DOUBTS regarding ST in BG´s extreme nightmare scenarios.

***Well ... You Can Doubt ... All You Wish !! ... You Will Probably Still Be Doubting ...When All "Upheval" Breaks Loose Around You !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... But Then Again ... Maybe Not ???

++ What would that matter? Well, it matters if you come to realize that words had power and that yours seems directed to undermine mankind hopes... or aren´t they? Well...


I also wonder about what reasons might really be behind such partial informations, uninformations and even misinformations and disinformations... as well as
for the refusal to explain what is claimed to be something unavoidable? But it is not so... as well as it is not thorough and is quite far from being so.

***Always The Suspicious Mind !! .... Sigh !! ... Must Be Those "Terrestrial Influences" There !! ... The Thinking Of ... Can't Trust Anyone !! ...

++ Not exactly... but we shall seek corroborable answers, we shall ask nature... instead of "gurus"... that´s what science really is about, not authority worshiping and beliefs...


A Sad State Of Affairs There !! ... Though We Understand ... Through The Conduit
... How These Things Are !! ... Still Sad However !! ... We Don't Have Those "Difficulties" Here !! ... We Trust ... & We KNOW One Another !!

++ Hmmmmm ... so why you cite what is irrelevant... is that showing understandment about mankind? Is that meaningfull?
It is not a sad state of affairs, it is just as it is... a certain state of things which is much better now that it had been in the past... and which can improve in awesome ways, if we achieve such improvements.



(but it seems as though the heat from the sun is
letting more radiations in that i could imagine people could get sun burnt more easily now a linear day's than say 5 to 10 linear years ago, is this correct ST?

**No !! ... As Your Star/Sun ... Does Not Cause By Itself ... Your Heat & Light Effects !!

++ Yes indeed... it is not correct, but because it is not exact. Solar activity varies within many cycles. The best known, an (about) 11 years cycle that seems related with Jupiter´s orbital cycle (This has been published even by NASA in the 1960´s... the link for the paper is in my
thread on Earth Expansion Tectonics) is currently and "anomalously" (notice that!) kept in the dimming or lower phase, with little activity (relative)... for now...

***We Answered In Brevity ... As To One Thought In The Question ... Which Was In Error !! ... As To ...
The Star/Sun ... You Called "Sol" ... As Being The Main Source ... Of The Phenomena ... That You Term ... Heat & Light !!

***Of Your Response To Our Response ... This Is Interesting ... Of Terrestrial Understandings !! ... However ... It Is Not The Main Reason ... That One Is Getting More Incoming Radiations ... Of Your Moment ... Versus Of Your Linear Moment ... Of 5 - 10 Years Ago !! ... This Has To Do ... With Nibiru's Interactions With The Star Called Sol ... Exacting/Extracting ... More Energies !! ...

++ Could it be? Even while the sun is showing an anomalous low number of sunspots? Even while the (11 year) cycle is extending instead of being usual? Well... there had been some CME´s, specially on the farside... in mid february when it seems that the perihelion of this N happened..... perhaps...



.... Your Sun/Star ... Is Not "Hot" ... As In "Fire Hot"
... But Extremely Extremely COLD !!!

++ How could a place delivering so vast amounts of radiant
energy and thought to be home to gargantuan atomic reactions that constantly give birth to atoms of increasingly larger weights and sizes be... extremely
cold?

***One Has To Change/Alter ... Their Way Of Thinking !! ... As What Is "Supposed" ... & Of "Theory Of Atoms/Atomic Reactions" (Made Into Fact) ... Is Not How Your Sun/Star Functions/Operates !! ... So Essentially You Have Been Following (And Many Others There As Well !!) ... An Incorrect Supposition !!

Well... if you compare it with a much larger star, a white giant perhaps...

***Think Of ... What Is Termed ... "Cold Fusion" !! ... That Would Be A Clue !!

++ Perhaps? ...


then you can said it is quite cold...

***Extremely Cold !!

how an extremely burning cold it should be!

***It Is ... Very Very VERY Cold !! ... But Not As You Understand ... "Burning" Cold !!

++ Hmmmmmmmm ...




It is expelling particles, mass, all the time... creating the solar wind.

***That Is ... An Incomplete Understanding Of Things !!

++ So what is the solar wind if not such things?!



It is surely quite hot, very so.

***Not "Hot" ... As You Would Understand !! ... As Produced By Fire !!

**It Is The Interaction ... Between The Buffered Radiations
Produced By The Star/Sun ... & Those Radiations Reaching Your Planet ... That Interact With ... The Energies Of Terra/Earth ... Which Cause The Phenomena Of ... Heat & Light ... Moreso In A Kind/Type Of "Frictional
Effect/Intermixing" !! ... One Set Of Variables (Such As ... The Radiations Being Blocked/Absorbed ... Or Reflected Back Into Space ... (From: Volcanic Eruptions) ... Would Cause The Surface Of Your Planet ... To Be Ice Cold & Dark !!

+ If they are blocked, then indeed heat would decrease in the lower clouds and gases through time, because water tends to concentrate and keep heat... and oceans are very good at this. Heat would try to escape at it always do, as heated gases are less heavy (less dense) than unheated
(less heated) ones... so, convection currents are formed. However the process is not instant and is far more complex.

+ If they are absorbed, then the gases in those regions would overheat or keep very hot, so the interchange of temperature and the loss through radiation to space would decrease significantly.

+ Even with an utopic total blockage of energy income, Earth would not freeze globally and obviously not instantly. Fast freezing might happen in a regional level, it seems... whatever amount of ash that might be in the atmosphere would ultimately and quite fast in geologic times... fall again (if not escaped through impact with solar wind and micrometeorites or... attracted by other bodies, in other words, probably most of the ash) to the Earth and fertilize lands and seas, increasing
productivity.

***Since You Do Not Know There ... Of All The Processes Involved ... Of Such Changes !! .... Acting & Interacting ... The Suppositions Would Be Limited ... Therefore ... It Would Be Akin To "Guessing" ... Of How This Is !!


++ You do not convince me... instead of sharing arguments you mislook/condemn mines. Had you really expained? I feel no, but i do not expected you would really explain such phenomena as it most likely is fictional, of course.

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Those works do persist also because no major dramatic
catastrophe of geologic nature has directly hit them at least with enough
force to crack them down as the Alexandria´s pharos was.

"Alexandria´s pharos" ... Not "Alexandria pharaoh's" !

***Thank You For The Correction !!

++ You are welcome of course...


The pharos was a skyscraper of its time, a great lighthouse used to proclaim the importance and power of the city and the grecoegyptian empire, as well as serve as a guidance post for ships maneuvering in the
Alexandria´s harbor.

It fall down apparently because strong earthquakes and
land subsidence which with time also forced a complete
reconstruction/redistribution of this harbor... probably in a much less sunctuous and glamorous one. This happened hundreds of years ago, perhaps after other more relevant Alexandria´s grandeurs such as the great library
and the university/museums (equivalent) were destroyed by religious obscurantism. A lot of knowledge of Hellenic times was lost.

***A Lot Of Things ... Were Indeed Lost !! ... Also ... A Lot Of Things Were ... Secreted ... Taken Away ... Hidden Away ... Until The Moment Comes ... When The Level ... The Maturity Of The Species Is Deemed Ready ... To Have These Things Returned !! ... When Wisdom Is Obtained !!

++ And what should such a time could be? Does such a thing really exists? Said that... it is likely that a lot of things had been forgotten or lost and that some had been secreted or taken away indeed... but there is wisdom too, not just mistakes and undoings/mishappenings!

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Hi ST,


wheres your home planet?/.... [link to archives.zinester.com]

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On what is he actually working ?

**Preparing For ... The Impending Arrival Of Nibiru !!

Thanks ST in BG

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!



Hello ST in BG

Are you kidding ??? He's working at the coming of Nibiru ??

But what is he expecting to do ??

What can he do if nothing is to do ?

crazy
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Hello ST In BG

China had several years ago also a flu, (does anybody remember its name ?)

**No !!

Was it also an engineered flu ? This is what Russians claimed..

**Yes !! ... Of "Biogenetic Weapons" !! ... Tagged To Look For "Certain Vectors" ... "Certain Traits" In It's Victims ... And Selectively Attack Them !!


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This flu was called S.A.R.S. for those who remember, and China stopped the flu (with your help ??)
It was an engineered flu...

What are your latest developments on this swine flu? Could you find something to milder or stop this flu ?
Please keep us up-dated as I'm sure a lot of people here would like to hear about.


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Hello ST In BG

What's the role of President Obama ?

**One That Was ... "Selected/Tapped" ... For That Position ... Of The Knowing Of ... The Forthcoming Changes !! ... To Be ... In That Position ... To Play That Role !!

(I'm not American but I have a deep respect of this man, I think he'll do the best for his people and the world).

**If This Is What You "Believe" !! ... This Is Just Simply ... The "Latest Image" ... For People To See !! ... While Those Who Are Actually ... "Giving Orders" ... Are "Behind The Scenes" !!

On what is he actually working ?

**Preparing For ... The Impending Arrival Of Nibiru !!

ST In BG
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MOST INTERESTING ST in BG !

So he plays a role, but who is he as a person and what's his goal ?
Is he a STS or STO ?

Of course we know there are those "behind the scenes"....
How long will these be ruling ?
Or is their end near ?


It's may be just my feeling but how these years are difficult to live !! ...
Just in my life there are a lot of hindrances, ther is always a concern about something, never can I be quiet and serene, it needs a lot of energy to not go down.
Anyone else feeling like that ??

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S who C,

You CLAIM to be a "Scientist" - but you offer no "proof" of this.

Your Scientific knowledge Base, so far, seems at best, to be no more than that of a Terrestrial High School Level.

Plus, you seem to be unable to grasp of Knowledge Beyond that Level.

And things have to be repeated over and over and you still cannot Think Beyond that Level.

Is it that you are afraid of All There Is Beyond what you conclude you "know"?

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ST, I have a question for you, please try to clarify for me. Thank you in advance.

You say we are in 3rd density, so 1, 2, 3. But then it is also said we have lived many lifetimes and had many experiences. And we act the way we do because of the things we have learned. But it is also said that they are all concurrent. (existing at the same time?). Please clarify if you are allowed. I know it is complex but that is half the reason I am asking. I probably asked an advanced question . But through all the information you have presented, I am trying to click together the knowledge into a whole understanding.

Thank you very much!
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Hi Truth 2,
Nice to "see" you :-)
Thank you for your comment.
"A good start is her book "The Custodians - Beyond Abduction"."
Yes, Ive been trying to get it here for almost a year now...but it seems to be very difficult to get...it's a long story....

"
The best information, of course, is what ST has provided here."
Yes, I am aware of that...and so..I kind of figured..if I was to have the Dolores Cannon books..then ...they/it will appear somehow..otherwise..I use the info ST has been giving.
I am especially appreciative of angelpbj and Candundrum for their interesting questions...I have been learning a lot from them... also others as well..

" I created that Index, years ago, that helps a little in finding various basic subjects that ST has covered - "
Yes, I know..I do use it :-)


"but again, one has to make the effort to use it in order to Learn these things. The Regular Readers through the years, like you, already Know these things."
:-) yes I di my best to keep up with every post...as I really don't want to miss anything :-)

Well, I am hoping as always and as many here are that May 78&9...something will happen... and 15th It's taking sooo long...
well..yes, I know the answer to that...it will take what it takes...
Meanwhile..I work hard in the garden to grow organic food for my family...and if there are left overs..happy to give some to other folks as well...
Strawberries are blooming right now... :-) and the rhubarb is in full swing..so soon to enjoy strawberry/rhubarb pie
Hope all is well with you..

And of course my greetings and thanks to ST Conduit, Team, Paschats and Whispy
Sincerely, Silent Companion
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Hi ST

Thank you so much for the honesty of your following answer

**You Are Most Welcome !!

I can only imagine the amount of effort you're putting on this thread, to bring us your truth.

**It Is ... Of An Energy Expenditure ... To Put Forth ... To Transmit ... Of Those Things ... Which Are Known Here ... That Are ... Not Revealed There !!

Regarding the last part of your answer, how can those people "in power" (TPTB) know so much?

Do they have an "authorized informant"??

**They May Have "Sources" ... Though Unless Revealed Here ... It Is ... Not Of Ours !!

Do they have the technology to detect Nibiru?

**They Have Such Technology !! ... Though Not In The "Same Capacity" ... As We Do !!

Thanks ST!

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Yesterday, less than an hour before sunset I saw two jets
leaving chemical trails in the sky.

**Curious !!

When the sun set, a huge star became visible.

**Most Interesting !!!

A yellow light shone forth from the object, which was at least three times wider than the North Star.

**Very Very Curious !!

Could it be..?

**Perhaps ???

Farewell For Now !!

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with my new response indicated by ----

----So even though violence and actions of killing and
destruction on Earth propel Nibiru forward or attract it to Earth, in the end it does not necessarily affect the passage as that comes down to being(s) aboard Nibiru giving the go signal.

**It Comes Down To ... What Might Be Termed ... "Cause & Effect" !! ... That Is ... Consider What Has Happened ... With The Release Of ... Genetically Engineered Biotoxins ... To Incapacite ... To Kill !! ... Such
Ways ... Such Thinkings Could ... Weigh In The Favor ... Of "Releasing The Restraints" ... & Letting Things Go Forward !! ... This Would Be ... As One Example ... Of A "Go Signal" ... By Actions Caused There !!

To some extent TPTB may have had a bit of a free pass to create death and destruction here to distract us without causing the passage because if other factors are not in place then Nibiru will continue to be held up until the right moment.

**There Are Many Complex Factors Involved !! ... And The Weighing Of These Factors ... Against All Others ... Is Left Of The Decision Of Council !!

----I've come to think that maybe Nibiru being close is not
really a sign that a passage is imminent as it can be anywhere it needs to be, thus whether it is right here or not should not have much affect on timing of the passage.

If necessary it could go from the opposite side of
it's orbit to passing right by us in an instant if necessary. Likewise it could be right on our doorstep and be held up for years or decades or longer. So it being close does not really say much as if the moment is not
right it will continue to be held up. The average of 3652-3657 linear years has little meaning in this context as well as time between each passage would be of varying lengths due to the controlled spaceship nature of Nibiru. Am I somewhat correct in these thoughts?

**No ... Of Your Thoughts In These "Scenarios" ... You Are ... Not Correct !!

----Also how can you believe that the time is near based on
terrestrial release of a disease?

**Because We Are Observant ... From Where We Are !! ... And Unfortunately ... Many There ... Are Not !! ... Do To ... Not Having All The Information ... Being Prevented From ... "Piecing Things Together" ... Being Prevented
From Seeing ... What Might Be ... Rather Obvious !!

You say you can calculate far better than those on Earth as to how close the passage is... so therefore your own
calculations should be far more accurate an indicator than the relying on the actions of terrestrials who are more or less guessing that it is close.

**When It Comes To Council Decision ... While We Can Calculate ... Far Better ... Then Those On Terra/Earth ... We Cannot Predict ... Of Their Decision ... When They Would In Essence Say ... (Or Roar For That Matter !!)... That I Have Had Enough !!! ... Let Things Proceed !! ... Let It Begin !!

----Thanks for anything you can clear up and I still have my fingers and toes crossed that May 15th is the date,

**May 15th ... Would Be A "Estimate" ... On The Main Passage Itself !! ... While This Will Be Of ... The Shifting/Dragging Of The Crust Itself .. At Least 3/4th's Of The Way Around ... One Is Not Understanding ... That
Previous To This ... Approximately 1 Week Before Or So ... Would Be ... "Preliminary Events" ... Leading Up To ... May 15th ... In Which Every Day ... Every Hour ... Every Moment ... In Which Things Draw Closer ... Draw Nearer ... That Turmoils ... Upheavals, Changes ... Would Continue To
Escalate !!

but I don't feel like it is. Will have to wait and see, nothing else I can do.

**Such Is A "Potential Date" ... In Which ... Depending Too ... On Actions/Inactions On Terra/Earth ... Such Decisions To "Go Ahead" ... May Be Rendered !!
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Darn, my quoting didn't work in the last post,

**We Actually Prefer ... The "Markings" ... Rather Then The "Quoting In Bold Face Type" ... As This Does Not Transfer Over ... When One ... Cuts/Pastes !!

hope you can figure it out. I put ---- in front of the new material.

**Yes We Could !! ... Thank You !! ... This Helped !!

Thanks.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings ST in BG. I forgot to add to my last post about the space travel "experience". I forgot to specify that if I were to "train" in such an experience, would it be in the physical realm (3rd density universe) or another higher realm. I have been experiencing some of the most incredible experiences in the dream state as if they were right out of a George Lucas, Steven Spielberg or a Gene Roddenbury movie script. Truly incredible. But I would also like to have the same in the physical if possible. Anyway, thank you for responding. Your friend, MJ-13.

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Hi (almost) everyone there, take care of the nasty and
outrageous biological mess that seems to had been taken out of a Pandora's Box. This virus seems serious, i found Feru´s thread interesting and posted there some humble suggestions that i would not repeat here. Take care, might
we go ahead and defeat this irrational and unwise mistake ; )

**Another "Terrestrial Mess" To Clean Up !! ... Sigh !! ... When Will They Ever Learn ????

Hi ST, you intriguing mystery ... well, thanks for trying to comment on some of my comments of which i feel prompted to have more thoughts (+)... despite it seems that we have some irreconcilable differences of knowledge / convictions ; )

**Yes ... It May Be ... That We DO ... Have Some ... "irreconcilable differences of knowledge / convictions" ... Since We Are Of "Scientists" ... At "Differing Levels" Of Understandings !!

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**Note: New Comments Are ... (X) **

I recommend you to have a critical glance (take care, some of them do make mistakes too...

but nevertheless you are easily allowed (very easily so!
and specially... claim that everything on Earth would be
completely destroyed, transformed in ways that would leave
nothing of what is or had been,

***This Is Correct !! ... Though For Us ... It Is Not A "Claim" ... But A Fact !!

++ I found your "fact" quite fictional, hopefully.

(X) Let Us Amend Our Statement !! ... In Which To Say/Indicate ... That Of Your Civilizations There ... In 3rd Density ... Such "Trace Residue" ... Will Carry Over ... To 4th Density Terra/Earth !! ... Of This ... When
Terra/Earth Resettles ... There Will Be ... Cleanup Of The Surface (As If One Is Revisiting The Remnants Of A World War 2 City That Has Been Bombed ... Abandoned & Left Standing !!) ... So Of This "Cleanup" ... Of Your Toxicities ... Chemical, Radioactive ... Biological, Ect. ... There Would Still Be Those ... That Need To Be Neutralized/Nullified !! ... And Of Course ... There Will Be Some Evidences/Traces ... Of Your Having Lived ...
On The Surface ... Though By That Moment ... Noone Will Know Anything About Them !! ... Rather Of Ancient Of Histories !! ... Things Discovered In "Archaeological Finds" ... Which May Be Explainable ... Just By Sigh Alone
... Of Your Cultures ... Will Be Puzzlements ... To Those Beings ... Who Uncover These ... Of Your Termed "Distant Future" !!

ways that are not congruent even with saltational equilibria or catastrophist view of natural history, ways that are not physically sound/explainable, ways that are in contradiction with the biodiversity of life itself

***Your Arguments Are Based In ... Lack Of Knowledge !! ... That Which You Do Not Know There !! ... Therefore Such Would Be ... A Wasteful Expenditure Of Your Energies !!

++ Really? Not exactly so.

(X) It Is More Of A Waste ... A Wasteful Expenditure Of Energies ... When You Base Of That ... Which Is To Come ... On Views & Viewpoints ... Of Those There ... Who Are Not Seeing ... Being Able To See ... Of A "Farther
Distance Ahead" ... & Who Are "Locked Into" ... Their (Incorrect) Perceptions Of How Things Work There On Terra/Earth ... And In That Universe !!

and nevertheless... you claim that biodiversity is not relevant to what is being said?!

***It Is ... An Entirely Different Subject ... Which Of ... What Is To Occur ... What Is To Happen ... Does Not Apply !! ... Such Perhaps WOULD Apply ... When It Comes The Moment ... To Once Again ... Create/Adapt ... Of Plant Forms, Animal Forms ... Life Forms ... In Which They Would Be Able To Exist ... (Including The Creation Of Biological Habitats/Areas) ... Of The Exposures To The Higher Energies/Vibrations ... Of The Dimension/Area Of Space ... That The Newly Cleansed Terra/Earth ... In 4th Density ... Will Be !! ... Until Then ... Such Thought Of "Biodiversity" ... Would Not Correspond !!

++ I found your claims ridiculous... not to offend but you don´t seem to know how marvelous complex biodiversity is and how extremely improbable and difficult it would be for your explanation being truth... for biodiversity being rebuild each time after complete removal and still
showing the complex and amazing relationships it shows... for a civilization... no matter how advanced... being able and willing to try such things. Isn´t it expectable that i can´t agree with your view, that i will find it unbased and in contradiction with what we see?

(X) You Would Find Such "Ridiculous" ... When You Do Not "Factor In" ... Of Your "Biodiversity" ... Of Those ET Beings & Peoples ... Who Have "Time & Again" ... Rebuilt Your World ... After Such Catastrophies !! ... Who Have Worked In The Open ...& Behind The Scenes ... To Bring Forth Life ... To Your Planet ... When All ... To Almost
Of All This ... Was Extinguished !! ... Of This You Would Make Claim ... That Such Bringing Forth Of Life ... Such
"Diversity" Is Simply Of Nature & Nature's Responses ... To Such Upheavals ... Such Changes !! ... Though How
Little You Are Aware ... Of Those That Have Helped Out ... That Continue To Help Out ... To Make Life Livable
... On Terra/Earth !! ... Who Have Stepped In ... Time & Again ... & Neutralized Terrestrial Dangers & Their Own Terrestrial Stupidity ... Which Would Have Threatened ... All Life There ... & Perhaps Elsewhere As Well !! ... It Is
THESE Beings ... You Can Thank For Your So Called ... "Biodiversity" !! ... As It Is They ... Who Deserve The Credit !!

What could possibly prepare someone to what you refer?

***We Can !! ... As We Are Doing This ... Constantly !! ... We Are Teaching ... Though Not Necessarily ... On That Level ... Or The Place ... Where You Are At !! ... Such As All ... (Yes Even You !!) ... Are Being "Educated/Reeducated" ... Into The Nature & Ways Of Things ... Of What Is Coming ... What You Are Going To Be Doing ... Where You Are Going To Be ... Many Many Many +++ Things !!

++ You? ... actually you just seem to be giving some nightmare scenarios without enough explanation or basis and claiming everything will be destroyed/erased/changed in a complete way...

(X) Depending On How You Wish To See This ... It Will Be ... A "Nightmare" !! ... Or A Termed: "Change For The Better" !!

how could you expect a rational thinker to agree with you or even found something meaningful or illustrious/wise on such... claims?

(X) It Is ... How You Wish To Perceive !! ... Of The "Artificial Reality" There ... On Terra/Earth ... And Those Things ... Which You Have Been Taught ... Have Been Programmed To Believe ... To Be True ... Or ... To Be Outside Your Planet ... To Perceive ... To See Of How Things ... Really Work & Function !! ... To See Of The Planet Nibiru ... To Which We Refer ... It's Satellites/Moons ... And Of Space Debris, Asteroids, Rubble, Ect. ... That Is Carried Along ... With This !! ... So Of This ... It Is Of Your "Limited Perspectives/Seeing There" ... Versus ... Our Seeing ... Where We Are At !! ... Which Is ... Our Basis ... For Rationality ... And Of Knowing !!

For what sake should we know any of this if there is some truth in your scenarios?

***For The Understanding ... The "Sake" Of Knowledge !!

++ Perhaps you have to rethink on your own claims? I found some hilarious/ironic sense on your "explanations"...

(X) All We Have To Do ... Is Look Outside ... Our Port Windows !! ... The Same Cannot Be Said ... For Those ... Limited In Viewing ... (By Those Who Wish To Keep Their Secrets !!) ... On Terra/Earth !!

++ What you expect from a scientist?

(X) ... Well A "Scientist" ... Of That Level ... Stuck In 3rd Density Thinkings/Understandings !! ... How We Wish We Could ... Raise You ... To Our Level ... To Have You See ... For Yourself ... Of What We Are Saying !!

Well... i am not as some fellows that quickly swamp their curiosity and concentrate on boring methods and overspecialized tiny "works and (pseudo)comprehensions"...
of course i would question! ; )

(X) ... Well Of Course !! ... But Still Sticky ... Still Stuck !!!

The Constant One ... Who Needs Their ... Terrestrial "Proof In Hand" !! ... "Evidences" !! .... Sorry To Inform You ... But Nibiru ... (Neither Of It's Satellites/Moons) ... Can Fit In Your Hand !! ...

++ Of course not, ha... i neither asked for such a thing...

(X) Aren't You Though ???? ... Such Are The Evidences ... That You Wish ... That You Desire !!

++ The Menorah? And you said this was forgotten...

(X) The Explanation Of This ... Is "Forgotten" !!

well i was not thinking of that kind of "explanations" either... but it is somewhat suggestive/curious... however there seem to be other explanations for its shape and numbers.

(X) ... And Ones That Have No Bearing ... On What It Really Means !!

There is nothing that sustain your claim... or is it?
What would sustain it?

(X) ... Well If We Put ... Nibiru In The Middle ... & White Satellites/Moons Around It ... In A Kind Of Mobile ... They Would Still ... Turn This Into ... A "Religious Thing" !!

***Both Are Used In Sacred Jewish Ceremonies & Celebrations ... But Their Meanings/Understandings ... Have Been Lost !!

++ So you say, they were lost... but this remains unproven.

(X) Yes ... We Do So Say !! ... The Information Was Originally Of The S(h)umerian People .... Of Their Encounters With Beings/Teachers ... Who Gave Them ... Of Their Civilization !! ... Then Due To ... "Atomic Destruction/Dispersal" Of These Peoples ... They Of Their Descendants ... In Their Wanderings ... Lost This Information ... This Knowledge ... & It Became ... Of A "Religion" ... A Symbol Of Their "Created Faith/Belief"
... When Previously ... It Had To Do With ... Science & Cosmology !!!

***As Stated ... Both Represent Nibiru (Center Position) ... With The Outer Positions Representing Of Nibiru's Satellites/Moons !! ... The Discrepancy Between The Two ... As To 6 Satellites/Moons ... (3 To Each
Side) ... Versus ... 8 Satellites/Moons (4 To Each Side)

***The Correct Number Of Satellites/Moons ... Can Be Attributed To A Number Of Things ... One Being ... That These Were .... Passed Down Informations/Observations ... Both Terrestrially & Extraterrestrially ... And Of Ancient Languages ... Which May Have Been ... Inadvertently
Mistranslated/Misunderstood ... Of Their Original Tongues !! ...

++ Is this more than a weird hypothesis on the air?

(X) ... No ... As One Branch ... Of The "Ancient S(h)umerian People" ... Are Those Of Your Today ... Called ... The Jewish People !! ... Of Which Of Their Customs ... Their Heritage ... This Has Been Watered Down ... Passed Down ... Translated From Ancient Cuneiform ... Into The Hebrew Language !!

Concerning proofs for signs that might refer to this Nibiru from the records and objects of past and present cultures... i found the Eagles/birds and the winged suns so well distributed among many ancient cultures much more
suggestive.

Within the Maya (popol vuh) it we found that Vucub Caquix was an arrogant lord that tried to supplant the Sun, bringing darkness and... as for this mayan (god) being shot down by Hunahpu... for the cycle to continue and an era to start again... and there is it on the stones of many
temples on Palenque and some other cities... the eagle/bird passing over the tree of life depicting a galactic alignment with a serpent.

There are all those relations to the dragons/reptiles/serpents in the Mayan and other
mesoamerican cultures... the patterns on the temple ornamental walls of plenty of cities, the sculptures of the Earth´s monster (imix) and the Kukulcan/Quetzalcoatl portraits of the Maya and the Toltec...

it is quite a lot of coincidence for the center of the galaxy being really between Ophiuccus, Scorpio and Sagittarius it seems. But the similarities between distant cultures go further,

we found dragons not just in ancient America but in the works of ancient China,

(X) Indeed !! .... As Of ... Serpent Mound (Giant Serpent Or "Dragon")!! ... As Of The Chinese (Red) Dragon (Chinese New Year) ... Of The Yin/Yang (Yin/Yong) ... Symbology ... Of The (2) Dragons ... The Red Dragon(Nibiru) & The Green Dragon (Terra/Earth) ... Or More Precisely ... Nibiru/Anu ... Terra/Earth: Enki !!

(X) Cultures Such As ... The Red Bull & White Bull ... Of Ancient Crete (Red Bull/Nibiru) ... White Bull (Nibiru's Satellites/Moons) !!

in the Nordic cultures, as well as in some Semitic and Hellenistic traditions. I found that quite intriguing.

(X) Different Cultures Had Different Ways ... Of Depicting ... Of Nibiru, Nibiru's Satellites/Moons, Terra/Earth !!

Another quite mysterious sign seems to be the horned sculptures, some having to do with the minotaur, with the Minoic (Crete) culture... but some coming farther
from the past, from the Sumerian and other Mesopotamian cultures... but which also shows in some allusions/sculptures of Horus... and also appear on catholic representations of the virgin, in the shape of a tiny moon over which she appears to rise (and which appears as early as with Sumerian goddesses... it seems). There are plenty of intriguing clues... but of course
there seems not to be a conclusive one among such sources. Not one that we are widely aware about, at least.

(X) ... Indeed Many Such Clues/Representations ... That Are Provided ... That Are ... In Plain Sight !!! ... If You Know Where To Look !!

Such For An Example Would Be ... That The Hebrew Language ... Is A Changed Version ... Of Ancient Cuneiform ... Which Was The Language Of The S(h)umerian People ... Of Which Both ... The Jewish People ( Includes Those Of The Land Of Israel & Elsewhere !!) & The Palestinian People ... Are From The Same Root Stock/Family !! ... They Are In Effect ... Brothers & Sisters ... To One Another !!

++ So it is in many ways, indeed... although the cultures are different now and there is manipulation by other parties with created interest involved.

(X) OH Indeed !!! ... Even In Regards To ... The Closely Held Secret ... Of Why The Palestinian People ... Are Considered Enemies ... (Being That They Are (Both The Israelites/Jewish People & The Palestinians) ... Are Descendants Of The Ancient S(h)umerian Peoples !! ... Two Branches ... That Became Separated From Each Other !! ... Both Claiming ... The Ancestral Lands !! .... & One Large Hidden Secret ... Is That The True Birth ... Of The One Later To Be Called ... Apollonius Of Tyana (& Other
Names (Depending On Where He & His Party Went) ... The Birthmother Was Of Those Later Called "Palestinian" !! ... Those That Remained Close To Their Lands ... Became Wandering Nomads ... & Never Left !! ...The Birth Was
Inside A Tent ... Alongside The Banks Of The Tigris/Euphrates River !! ... There Was No Bethlehem ... No Manger !! ... This Was All Invented Fiction ... Made Up ... Along With The "Christ Birth" !! ... The Names, Places, Events ... All Changed/Distorted ... And Taken As Fact ... When The Truth Was ... The Real Being ... Was Born Years Before ... & Did These Things ... So Attributed To The One Called: "Jesus Christ" (A Work Of Fiction On
Paper ... Which Did Not Exist !!) ... So A "Bait & Switch" Was Performed !! ... And These People Knew Of The Truth !! ... So They Were (Amongst Other Reasons) ... Considered A Threat !!

***Well ... You Can Doubt ... All You Wish !! ... You Will
Probably Still Be Doubting ...When All "Upheaval" Breaks Loose Around You !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... But Then Again ... Maybe Not ???

++ What would that matter? Well, it matters if you come to
realize that words had power and that yours seems directed to undermine mankind hopes... or aren´t they? Well...

(X) "Mankind" ... Will Cease To Exist !! ... That Bioshell/Body/Form ... Has Been Classified As "Outdated" ... To Be Replaced ... Do To ... It Cannot Be
"Further Enhanced" ... To Deal With ... Incoming Energies/Radiations ... Of High Energy Forms !! ... They Will Breakdown ... Cease To Function !! ...
The Bodies/Shells Will Die !! ... The New Bodies ... Are Quite Different ... That Have Been Designed ... Have Been Built ... For Such Higher Energies/Radiations & Exposures !! ... They However Will Not Be "Human" ... As "Human" ... Are Those Body/Forms ... Specifically Designed Only For ... Terrestrial 3rd Density Vibratory Plane ... Of Those Radiations From Space & The Planet ... Of Those Terrestrial Energy Fields !!

I also wonder about what reasons might really be behind such partial informations, uninformations and even misinformations and disinformations... as well as for the refusal to explain what is claimed to be something
unavoidable? But it is not so... as well as it is not thorough and is quite far from being so.

***Always The Suspicious Mind !! .... Sigh !! ... Must Be Those "Terrestrial Influences" There !! ... The Thinking Of ... Can't Trust Anyone !! ...

++ Not exactly... but we shall seek corroborable answers, we shall ask nature... instead of "gurus"... that´s what science really is about, not authority worshiping and beliefs...

(X) Since You Do Not Know How To ... "Talk To Nature" ... To Understand ... How To "Read" Of Nature ... Of Your "Backwards Sciences" (And Yes They Are To Us ... Quite "Backwards" !!) ... Then You Would Be Lost ... Before You Began !!!

**A Sad State Of Affairs There !! ... Though We Understand ... Through The Conduit ... How These Things Are !! ... Still Sad However !! ... We Don't Have Those "Difficulties" Here !! ... We Trust ... & We KNOW One
Another !!

++ Hmmmmm ... so why you cite what is irrelevant...

(X) Not Irrelevant !!

is that showing understandment about mankind?

(X) It Is About ... (Collectively) Mankind !!

Is that meaningful? It is not a sad state of affairs, it is just as it is... a certain state of things which is much better now that it had been in the past... and which can improve in awesome ways, if we achieve such improvements.

(X) Actually Of Other "Previous Cultures" ... Of The Ones That Respected & Revered Nature ... We Found These More Connected Of Life ... & To The Life Energies Of The Planet !! ... These To Us ... In Many Ways ... Were More Advanced !!

***Of Your Response To Our Response ... This Is Interesting ... Of Terrestrial Understandings !! ... However ... It Is Not The Main Reason ... That One Is Getting More Incoming Radiations ... Of Your Moment ...
Versus Of Your Linear Moment ... Of 5 - 10 Years Ago !! ... This Has To Do ... With Nibiru's Interactions With The Star Called Sol ... Exacting/Extracting ... More Energies !! ...

++ Could it be?

(X) Yes ... It Could Be !!

Even while the sun is showing an anomalous low
number of sunspots? Even while the (11 year) cycle is extending instead of being usual?

(X) Yes !! ... As How Little You Understand ... The Sun/Star There ... Called "Sol" !! ... One Example Of This ... In Thinking ... That It Is "Fiery Hot" !! ... When Actually ... It Is Extremely Extremely Cold !! ....
Of What You Might Call Of Plasma ... Of "Cold Fusion" ... **Another "Glaring Example" ... Of Keeping Those Of Terra/Earth ... In The Dark !! ... As "Cold Fusion" (Works Just Fine In Space !!!) ... Is One Of ... The
Ways Of Things !! ... And On Your Planet ... Would Eliminate The Need/Dependency Of Oil !! ... Yet This Technology Is Prohibited ... Do To Those Who Are "Heavily Invested" ... In Oil Ventures !!

It is expelling particles, mass, all the time... creating the solar wind.

***That Is ... An Incomplete Understanding Of Things !!

++ So what is the solar wind if not such things?!

(X) For One Thing ... It Is Of Multiple Variants Of Radiations ... "Charged Particles" ... Energy Plasma ... & Many Other Things Besides !!

***Since You Do Not Know There ... Of All The Processes Involved ... Of Such Changes !! ... Acting & Interacting ... The Suppositions Would Be Limited ... Therefore ... It Would Be Akin To "Guessing" ... Of How This Is !!

++ You do not convince me... instead of sharing arguments you mislook/condemn mines.

(X) Why Should We Argue ?? ... As We Know How Things Are ... And Rather ... You Do Not !!

Had you really explained? I feel no, but i do not
expected you would really explain such phenomena as it most likely is fictional, of course.

(X) Of The Ways Things Happen ... Of Such Changes ... They Are Very Much ... Not Fiction !! ... They Simply Operate ... Under Different Understandings ... Of Differing Means !! ...

(X) It Is Not A Condemnation Of Those There ... To Say ... They Do Not Know !! ... It Is Quite Factual !! ... They Don't Know !! ... We Know Do To ... This Has Already Occurred ... From Our Perspectives !! ... Since It Has
Yet To Occur There ... Then ... This Is Not Yet ... On Your Records ... Of Your Knowledge !!
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***A Lot Of Things ... Were Indeed Lost !! ... Also ... A Lot Of Things Were ... Secreted ... Taken Away ... Hidden Away ... Until The Moment Comes ... When The Level ... The Maturity Of The Species Is Deemed Ready ... To Have These Things Returned !! ... When Wisdom Is Obtained !!

++ And what should such a time could be? Does such a thing
really exists?

(X) Yes ... Such A Thing ... Of That Moment ... Does Exist !!

Said that... it is likely that a lot of things had been
forgotten or lost and that some had been secreted or taken away indeed...

but there is wisdom too, not just mistakes and undoings/mishappenings!

(X) ... Yes ... All Of This !!

Cheers, S. who C.

Best hopes for a better world & Farewell for ever ; )

A Scientist who Cares

Farewell For Now !!

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Hello ST In BG

Are you kidding ??? He's working at the coming of Nibiru ??

**That IS ... The Current Basis ... Of All That Is Happening There !! ... Of This Knowledge !!

But what is he expecting to do ??

**To Play His Part ... To Play His Role !!

What can he do if nothing is to do ?

**By Just ... Filling That Role ... That Part ... Is What He Was Chosen For !!
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This flu was called S.A.R.S. for those who remember, and China stopped the flu (with your help ??)

**Yes !!

It was an engineered flu...

**A Biogenetic Weapon ... Designed To Seek Out & Attack ... Certain Vectors ... Certain Ones ... That Had ... Certain Genetic Markers !! ... To Attack
Them ... & Leave The Others Unharmed !!

What are your latest developments on this swine flu? Could you find something to milder or stop this flu ?

**We Can Only Say ... Ourselves & Others ... Are Working On This !!

Please keep us up-dated as I'm sure a lot of people here would like to hear about.

**Certain Things Unfortunately ... We Cannot (For Reasons) Reveal !! ... As There Are Certain "Stipulations" ... Rules You Might Say ... To Make
Things Look ... Of "Non Extraterrestrial Intervention" !! ... Essentially To Give Terrestrials The Credit ... While We Actually ... Did The Work !!

MOST INTERESTING ST in BG !

So he plays a role, but who is he as a person and what's his goal ?

Is he a STS or STO ?

**This Would Be ... Of Fractuated Thinking !! ... Not Of "Whole Thinking" !! ... He Is ... As He Is !!

Of course we know there are those "behind the scenes".... How long will these be ruling ?

Or is their end near ?

**Their "Reign" Is Coming To A Close !!

It's may be just my feeling but how these years are difficult to live !! ...

**And Created/Made ... To Be So !!

Just in my life there are a lot of hindrances, there is always a concern about something, never can I be quiet and serene, it needs a lot of energy to not go down.

**Yes ... To Keep The Public On Edge !! ... To Keep Them Upset !! ... More Energies Used In Such Endeavors ... More Energy Available ... In Which Certain Ones ... Gain Strength !!

Anyone else feeling like that ??

**We Have Noticed This !!

Thanks

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings: AM - RA - MA: User ID: 665569

Hi ST,

where's your home planet?/....

[link to archives.zinester.com]

**We Have Many Places ... Where We Have Resided ... Do Reside !!

**It Is Has Always Been A "Misunderstanding/Non-Understanding" ... Of Our Being Called ... "Zeta Reticulians" !! ... As We Do Not Specifically Come
... From That System !! ... Yet It Is One Of Many Such Places ... In Our Ancient Of Histories !! ... To Ask Where We Do Come From ... The Answer Would Be ... From Everywhere !! ... Which Is ... Quite Factual !!

**Morning, Noon, Evening - Night !!

Farewell For Now !!!

ST In BG
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I guess I opened a can of worms (metaphor) without realizing it, in regards to the soul, ascension and 2012.

**Perhaps So ?? .... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Getting back to what you said about the soul and that it was a religious "misunderstanding"?

**Okey Dokey !!

Are you saying we therefore have no soul?! If so or not, please do explain.

**You Do Not Have ... Of "Religious Interpretation" ... Of The Multifaceted "Energy Matrix" ... The "Energy Essences" ... That Is Animating The Body !! ... That Is The ... Real YOU !!

As far as ascension goes, please explain that one as well.

**Ascension ... As It Is Called There ... By (Once Again) ... Of "Religious Thinking" !!) ... Is No More ... No Less ... Going Upward !! ... To Ascend !! ... To Lift/Float Upward !! ... So This Can Also Describe ... Floating/Being Lifted ... By Beam ... Into The Ship !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I have had dreams (multiple) where I have been told that there will be a "conscious shift" coming.

**There Will Be More ... Then A "Conscious Shift" !! ... There Will Be ... A Physical Rearrangement ... Of The Planet's Surface !! ... This Would ... Most Definitely ... "Shift One's Consciousness ... & Their "Reality" !!

Does that have anything to do with ascension?

**Well ... You May Be ... "Rescued" ... & Be ... Lifted Or Beamed ... Of The Planet's Surface !!

Please explain.

**Which We Did !!

Thank you ST In BG,

You Are Very Welcome !!

your friend MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427

Greetings again. I would have replied sooner but I didn't have a chance to see your response. But thank you for the response. As far as the question regarding "soul", I wasn't coming from a religous perspective but a spiritual one. So in essence, we do have a soul, but one that is of pure energy (energy body) and does give life to the physical shell known as the physical body? But you say also that it has no "connection" to the "source" (energy source that created it)? And as far as ascension, I was not referring to a "lifting" in a physical sense. What ascending in my mind is one of a metaphor. The metaphor represents that of evolving upward in a spiritual/density/dimentional sense. The impresion that I am getting over many years of hearing about the "coming of Christ", the "Messionic Age" (Messiah's arrival) and other religious prediction as well as Niburu and my own personal spiritual "visions" is that we all are going to be participants in a spiritual acsension. If you are saying that I will be "rescued", does that mean that my soul and body will be rescued or just the soul? Or do you mean that both will be rescued in the sense that the physical body will change dimensions and I would be "beamed" up to a higher realm without having to go through a physical death? What about the rest of my family and friends. Can they be "rescued" as well? Why or why not? Thank you again ST in BG. Bye for now. Your friend, MJ-13.

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