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That should be the reason why i have so many difficulty to live... i have a relational problem with "the life". i do want to... but "the life" do not want... "the life" do want to... but i do not want... the life is a big "game of mistake", "the life" say "try this mistake, or this mistake, or this other mistake !" and i don't like to do mistake : i guess the conscequences in advance... so, i just have to do... nothing, and stay here. And, the joke is, that it is another mistake ! but i don't know the consequences here...
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I know this refrain... i know ALL theses theories... it is hard now to teach anything to me. I know aproximatly all points of view (figurative, i'm not god) and its opposite, i just can't (don't want ?) make any choice to validate any "view" insteed "another". The "choice" that is my real probleme i think : i don't want to choose... because i see the choice as a "trap", another way to a new "mistake" with anothers good AND bad conscequences : the life "training" me to see things like that... i accept the "good", not the "bad"... so i reject both the "good" with the "bad"... in fact, i reject the life, and the life reject me, in some manner... it is not a "love story"

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Dearest Void - don't you see? It's not about you per se. It's about learning and teaching. Think beyond yourself. What have you done to help someone? Did you help the elderly neighbor with their lunch or just keep them company? Have you helped out in a soup kitchen? Have you volunteered at a children's cancer unit? You have no idea on what kind of an impact you have on someone, even a total stranger.

Have you seen that old old movie, "It's a wonderful life" with Jimmy Stewart? That whole movie is about the impact that one man had on soooo many people, even in childhood.

The way you are thinking is called self realization. You ARE learning. You are NOT a mistake. Don't give up, never give up.

There is so much more than focusing on your choices and calling them mistakes. Nothing is really a mistake if you learn from it.

There is an old saying, "if you don't learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them".

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about life. I'm sad you dont' see it as an opportunity, but rather a mistake.

I can ask you to think positive, but it is truly up to you to choose to be positive and look for the good, or the opposite. The choice is always yours.

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Greetings: void: User ID: 667543

Sorry for my "a bit strong" comments below.

**We Reserve The Right ... To Not Answer Respondents ... When They Desire Not To Show ... Of Proper Respect !! ... If You Wish To Resubmit ... Your Questions ... With Respect Given ... Not Of Accusation ... Then We May
Choose To Reply !! ... Suffice To Say ... We Are Not ... "ET Punching Bags" Or "ET Sound Boards" ... That Need To Take ... Every Bit Of Abuse ... That Is Put To Us !!
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Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 630143

**In Response To: void 667543 ... & Quorum ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Haven't you heard anything ST has said??

**Supposedly Not !!

To live is to learn. We/YOU chose to be here NOW at this time in 3d to learn lessons, and perhaps teach lessons to others. YOU CHOSE this life.

**Indeed !! ... THEY CHOSE ... That Life !! ... (Unless They Were "Assigned" ??)

ST or the ET's didn't "put" you here.

**Not To Our Recollection Anyway !!!

All life is a choice... the way you lead your life is a choice....

**Indeed !! ... A Series Of Choices !!

The problem is not the universe, it is in your understanding.

**Emm Hmmm !! (Yes !!)

ST has no control over your life or your "death".

**Well Not "Directly" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Though Of
"Influences/Changes" To Come ... Of The Transition ... Of Evolving ... One Might Say ... "Non Directly" !!

It is your choice to experience what is happening here in the world. You found this forum for a reason.... you are angry for a reason....you want answers..... Would you
rather not know we are being manipulated by "others"? You need to ask yourself what do you feel is true?

**Indeed !!

If you knew what your lessons were that you needed to learn in this life, what would that do for the rest of your living experience? Would you hurry thru your lessons like in school getting barely passing grades just to graduate?

Or would you take elective classes to broaden your knowledge, thirsting for more.

**Study ... Way Beyond The "Programmed Terrestrial Classroom" ... Is Always Wise !!

Most "kids" in school just barely pass to graduate, and
can't wait to get out of school, or drop out!

**Well From What They "Teach" There ... For Those That See ... "Beyond The Programming" ... Who Can Blame Them !!

what do they remember when they get out? Mostly the basics of reading, writing, math, some science.... mostly getting low paying jobs, but hey, at least they are out of school
right? NO!

**To Escape The "Programming" Yes !! ... Unfortunately ... In A "Programmed Society" There ... Such "Teachings" (What They Call Them Anyway !!) ... Are What Is Recognized ... As Being Accurate ... & Truthful !! ... Which Is Not The Case !! ... As All Of Their "Disciplines" ... Have Their "Inaccuracies" !! ... Their Whole System & Way Of Learning ... Needs A Complete Overhaul !!

Lessons continue, always, ever more progressive, ever more
exciting and fun.

**Oh Indeed !! ... Of Lessons Beyond The ... "Artificial & Programming" There !! ... Lessons/Teaching ... That Are ... More Progressive ... Indeed More Exciting & Fun !!

Quorum is trying to back up his words by baffling with B.S.

**Yep !!!

Not gonna work Quorum.

**Indeed Not !!

**As To... STO & STS (Service To Others, Service To Self) ... This Needs More Of An "Expansive Explanation" ... So Of This .. We Will Do A ... "Follow Up Posting" !!

No brainwashing here Quorum,

**No ... None There !!

but we can see you are brainwashed.

**Well ... Evidences Would Suggest ... From Their Postings ... That "Something" Has Occurred There !!

Of course a few dust bunnies in the brain might tickle... har har.

**Wellll ... They Just Might !! ... Maybe Our "ET Medical Staff" ... Could Assist ?? ... Hi Ho ... Hi Ho ... A Vaccuming We Go !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Dearest Void - don't you see? It's not about you per se.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


I have to inform you that i'm very egoist...

It's about learning and teaching. Think beyond yourself.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


Very dificult to me. beyond myself, there are all other, and i'm nothing. As i have allready say : if the univers just "zap" me and make me "non-existent/non-conscious", that do not make problem for me.

What have you done to help someone?
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


Nothing, i'm not able to help anybody... some make that very better than me, and in fact, i think i don't want to be able to help others... that made me not very "good" yeah ? in return, i try to do not ask the help of others, to keep the "balance" as i can.

Did you help the elderly neighbor with their lunch or just keep them company? Have you helped out in a soup kitchen? Have you volunteered at a children's cancer unit? You have no idea on what kind of an impact you have on someone, even a total stranger.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


but i don't want to have any impact... all this thing are very good, but i'm not this kind of "good" person that help others... just any egoist like many other. It is very hard to help...need a great force... this is why i don't realy help and don't realy ask for help.. I tryed to help, the result was a big crunch... i'm not "designed" to do that, i'm too egoist.

Have you seen that old old movie, "It's a wonderful life" with Jimmy Stewart? That whole movie is about the impact that one man had on soooo many people, even in childhood.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


not seen, sorry

The way you are thinking is called self realization. You ARE learning. You are NOT a mistake. Don't give up, never give up.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


i pass my time to put me upright, then fall, and then cry, and then again put me upright... etc... like i said "earth, that hurt" can add "with 'help' of gravity"...

There is so much more than focusing on your choices and calling them mistakes. Nothing is really a mistake if you learn from it.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


At this time, the big mistake that i "feel" i have to learn from it is "to be".

- "then you are !"
- "Outch ! ho yes... i'am...i feel it now... is it reversible ? that is not very comfortable...that 'was better before'..."

maybe it is an "negative" perspective...

There is an old saying, "if you don't learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them".
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


Ho, don't say that, I see me by advance turning again and again in the great "Samsara"...

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about life. I'm sad you dont' see it as an opportunity, but rather a mistake.
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I'm sad too... but at this time, the only opportunity that i see is to discover how i'm useless and able to nothing.

I can ask you to think positive, but it is truly up to you to choose to be positive and look for the good, or the opposite. The choice is always yours.
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I thanks you anyway.
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I apologize, but i will don't re-ask. Not because i don't respect you, but just because i think (and you possibly guess that) i don't want the answere... why ? that is a good question that i will ask to myself...

... Suffice To Say ... We Are Not ... "ET Punching Bags" Or "ET Sound Boards" ... That Need To Take ... Every Bit Of Abuse ... That Is Put To Us !!
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I very well understand you. But, you seem to be less "affected" by Quorum than me, however, he was very "agressive"... with Quorum you respond more with "mockery"... why ?
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Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 630143

**Here Is The "Follow Up Posting" ... In Regards To STO (Service To Others) & STS (Service To Self) !!

**Let Us Begin Way Before These "Created Terms" Were Put In Use !!

**A Place To Start ... At The Beginning ... Would Be ... Of A "Governmental Program" ... That Was Used ... To Gage Of Reactions Of Certain Groups/Individuals !! ... To The Impending News/Realization ... In Which An E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) ... Was To Happen ... Was To Occur !! ... It Was Thought To Approch Of "Expansive Knowledge Groups" ... Those That ... Well ... Could Reach Out & Touch Someones ... Who Were While Considered Eccentric By Others ... Went Beyond The Norm ... Of The Common Citizen !! ... These Would Be ... Of A "Base" To Work Off Of !! ... To See First ... What Those Of "Higher
Minds/Expanded Minds" ... How They Might Deal With The Situation !!

**It Was Understood How ... Direct Release Of Such Informations ... Would Effect ... The Common Person ... Not Acquainted/Not Having Access ... To That Which Was Beyond Their Planet !! ... Their Reaction Would Be To Panic !! ... Blind & Dangerous Panic !! ... Madness Would Result !! ... That Would Cause Worldwide Death & Destruction ... Even Before Such Events Actually Occurred !!

**For That Moment ... Such Was Simply More Of A "Data Study" ... As Many Did Not Believe ... Or Even Consider ... The Thought/Idea ... That Anything Like This Could Occur !! ... Any Catastrophic Event" ... Would Happen In Their Lifetime !! ... Certainly Not ... One That Would Threaten The Entire Planet !! ... Of Any There ... The Thought Was ... Oh We Have Had Close Calls Before ... But ... We Can Handle Something Like This ... Should It
Occur !! ... Treating The Whole Thing ... As More Of An "Inside Joke" !!

**Now Of Spacial Studies Being Made ... In Conjunction With Unraveling The Mysteries Of Life ... There Was The Investigation Of ... Myths & Legends ... Throughout The Planet ... Concerning The Great Destroyer !! ... (Many
Different Names/Designations Depending On The Cultures/Peoples !!) ... Of This They Recorded Of ... Great Catastrophe !! ... And Each Told Of ... (Locally Expressed) ... Of The Happenings There ... Where They Were !! ... Having Their Own .. "Flood Legends" ... Matched By Other Peoples ... Throughout The Globe !! ... So Of These Studies ... There Were Those That Felt ... Suppose ... Just Suppose For A Moment ... That These Were Not ... Myths/Legends ... But Fact !! ... Is There Such A Planet Out There ... That Would Be A Threat To Terra/Earth ?? ... And If This Exists ... Can We Find
It ??

**So Computers Worked With Figures/Data Supplied Them ... Entering Of Days, Dates, Times ... Estimations Of When Such Happenings Occurred ... In The Ancient Of Your Times !! ... To Correlate A Set Estimate ... Set Of
Coordinates ... Of Where This Planet Should Be ... Should It Exist !! ... The Probes Were Sent Out ... 2 Probes ... To Make What Might Be ... A Cross Sector Sweep Of Certain Particular Regions ... Using Advanced Detection Equipment !! ... Many On Terra/Earth Though ... This Is A Waste Of Time ... Waste Of Money/Resources !! ... They (The Probes) Won't Find Anything !! ... Well The Naysayers Were Dead Wrong !! ... This Planet Was Detected ... Along With It's Satellites/Moons ... & Various Asteroids, Meteorites & Space Debris ... And Was Through Computer Analysis ... Inbound To The Sol System ... & To Terra/Earth !!

**This Detection Happened Long Before ... The Released "Opps" ... Of A "Prominent Newspaper" ... In Which There Was Of The Story ... A Follow Up Rebuttal/Denial ... That It Was NOT ... "Incoming Mail" !! ... (Which Was Correct !! ... As It Was/Is ... An "Incoming Plant/Planetary Ship" ... Along With It's Satellites, Moons & Others ... That Are ... Coming Along ... For The Ride !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!)

**Now Of Course "There" Panic Ensued !! ... What Do We Do ?? ... Calm Yourselves !!!! ... Said One Of The "Hardliner" Old Generals !! ... We Have "Contingency Plans" For Such An Emergency !! ... We Do Things ... "By
The Book" !! ... Which Means ... Dismissal & Denial ... Of All Said News Reports ... That Might Have Been Released !! ... The Clamp Down ... Of Anything Further On The Subject !! ... Keep The Public Busy ... Distracted
With "Other Things" ... & Keep Them ... In The Dark !! ... Business As Usual ... It's Just Another Day !!

**To This There Were "Younger People" There ... Who Were In Disagreement ... They Said ... What About Our Families ... Our Loved Ones !! ... What About Them ?? .... What About Their (Public's) Families ... Their Loved Ones
?? ... Don't They/We ... Have A Right To Be With Them ... If We Know ... That A Such An Event Is Going To Occur ?? ... Don't We (All Of Us) Have A Right ... To Make Of Our Own Preparations ... In Knowing ... What Is To
Happen ?? ... To Make Peace With Each Other/Themselves ?? ... Don't They Have The Right To Know ??

**Of This ... "Heated Discussion" ... Neither Side ... Not The Hardliners (Older Military/Generals) ... Who Did Things ... "By The Book" !! ... Nor The Younger People ... (They Have A Right To Know ... To Prepare !!) ... Were Willing To Back Down ... From Their Positions !! ... Things Got To The Point ... Of Near "Boil Over" ... Near Blows ... When Surprisingly ... A "Hardliner General" (Who Was More The Less In Charge !!) ... Spoke About
The "Debate" ... GENTLEMAN/LADIES ... Please !! ... To Which When He Spoke ... The Room Was Quiet !! ... He Waited For The People To Settle & Calm Down ... Then He Said ... This Is Getting Us Nowhere !! ... This Arguing !! ... This Bickering !! ... The More Moments We Spend In Arguing ... The Closer The Planet Becomes !! ... Ok !! ... We (The Hardliners (Military/Old Generals) ... Are Willing To Compromise !! .... (Which Raised Eyebrows With The Other "Hardliners" There !! ... To Which They Were About To Object ... But One Look From "Him" ... & They Sat Back Down & Listened !!) ... He Said Now We Can't Just Release This Information Factually To The Public ... We All Know That !! ... And What Would Occur !! ... Madness Would Ensue !! ... Death, Destruction ... Throughout The Planet ... Even Before Things Start To
Happen !! ... This We Will Not Bend On !! ... However ... We Are Not The "Hard A----" We Appear & Are Made Out To Be !! ... We Too Have Families ... Have Loved Ones ... & We Want To Be With Them Too !! ... We Understand Of
Your Position ... Though We Need A "Working Plan" !! ... And This Is What I Have In Mind !!

**We Will Release Of Certain Informations ... In Various Ways ... To The Public ... In Such A Way ... So As Not To Alarm The Public !! ... And With The Understanding ... That These Informations ... Would Not Be "Crystal Clear" ... That The Information & Sources Of Informations ... Would Be Subject To Various Ways Of Dismissal ... Through Rebuttal By "Experts" In Their Fields ... Through Various Means/Ways ... To Invalidate The
Materials/Sources Of The Materials ... Including Of The Ways Of "Debunking" & Making Such Appear To Be Silly/Irreverent !! ... Understand ... This "New Policy" Would Apply ... Only To That Of "Terrestrial Sources"
... Not Of Those "Outside" !! ... We Are Told However ... Of Such "Outside Contacts" ... (We Won't Say Who !!) ... That They Too ... Wish Not ... For Madness, Death & Destruction ... Before The Arrival !! ... So While
They Will NOT Follow Our Procedures ... & Use Of "Deception" To Keep This Secret ... They Will Attempt To Refrain ... From Giving Exacting Exactness ... In Relationship ... To Times, Days, Dates ... Of Arrival, Ect. ... In Which They Can ... Pinpoint With More Accuracy ... Then We Can Here !!

**One Such "Method Of Release" ... Was In Using The Previous "Governmental Program" ... To Gage Of Reactions Of Certain Groups/Individuals !! ... To The Impending News/Realization Of A Possible "E.L.E" (Extinction Level
Event) !! ... This "Survey Program" ... Was Designed To Collect Data ... To Formulate Of "Future Plans" ... In The "Unlikely Case" ... Such An Event Would Transpire/Occur !!

**Since That Program Was ... Already Out There ... Had Already Existed ... (A Shoe/Foot In The Door ... So To Speak !!) ... It Was Thought ... Why Not Use This ... As One Way To ... Put The Word Out !! ... So Certain Changes Were Made ... Certain "Alterations" !! ... So That ... The Public Would Not Become Too Aroused With Their Suspicions ... So They Would Not ... Make Of "Terrestrial Authoritative Connections" !! ... Those So Involved With This Project Discussed The Issue !! .... How Do We ... Make This Work ?? ... One Person There Said ... (More In Sarcasm) ... Well Hell ... Why Don't We Just Say ... The "Aliens" Are Saying This !! ... To Which The "Project Leader" Said ... A Great Idea !! ... Now We Need An Image !! ... An ET Image !! ... Something That Everyone Will Recognize !! ... Reptilians ... No ... Too
Scary For The Public !! ... Plejarans ("Pleiadians") ... Too Close To "Human Beings" & Their Looks !! ... We Need Those ... Who Are ... "Borderline" !! ... Not Too Scary Looking ... For The Public To Be Frightened Of !! ... Ones That Are Considered ... More ... "Controversial" !! ... Of Which Varying Conflicting "Contact Reports" Are Made !! ... I've Got It !! ... The Zetas !! ... They Are Just What We Are Looking For !! ... That's The Image !! ... Not Too Scary For The Public To Accept ... (By Their Appearance) ... And With Enough "Controversy" ... To Intrigue ... To Interest !! ... Just A "Dress Up/Minor Change/Tweaking Of The Image ... A Slight Grin ... & There You Have It !! ... Now ... Next Question ... We Need A "Spokesperson" !! ... Someone With The Image Once Again ... We Are Looking
For !! ... A Grandmotherly Look !! ... With The "Proper Qualifications" Of Course !! ... As A Grandmother Wouldn't Tell A Fib !! ... & Could Be Looked Upon ... As Being Trustworthy !! .... Have Got Just The Perfect Individual
For That Post/Position !! ... And So ... With All Things Now In Place ... We Can Begin !!

**So From These Roots ... That Program Began A New Life ... To "Under The New Rules" ... To Be Used ... To Dispense Of "Terrestrial Authoritative Informations" ... (& Those Gleaned/Taken From Elsewhere !!) ... Of Those
Things ... To Be Released To The Public !! ... This Was With The Understanding ... Of That Role ... They Would Be "Taking On" Those "Compensated" ... Who Had The Role/Position ... In Which To Use ... Various "Methods" ... To Discredit !! ... This Included
All Forms Of Debunking, Criticism Ect.!!

**Futher Of All That Were/Are ... Assuming Their Roles ... They Would Understand ... That Per "Necessity" ... And Of The "New Rules/Arrangments" ... That Should Such The Need Be ... To Make Changes/Alterations ... To The Program ... They Were To ... Follow Along & Do Their Part ... So As While To Inform Those ... That Could "Read Between The Lines" ... It Was Designed To ... Keep The General Public Confused ... Off-Balance ... & Uncertain ... As To What Was Actually Going On !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Dearest Void - don't you see? It's not about you per se.


I thanks you anyway.
 Quoting: void 667543



Sounds like a lot of sorrow for you as you grew up. I'm sad for you, but nothing can change it, except you. Don't know if this helps, but it could have been a lot worse. Someone, somewhere ALWAYS has it worse than you, and someone, somewhere else worse than them, and so on....You think you have it bad, but someone else has it much worse.

Again, it is up to you to hold onto the dark or move to the light.

Canundrum
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Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 666713

Lasco 3 SOHO 1 May 09

:soholasc3:

**Oh Nutsy !!! ... The Picture Didn't Show Up !!!! ... Ratts !!!!

Farewell For Now !!

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Greetings: anakin_nEo: User ID: 667647

for the neutron flux ST .. I have got answer

[link]

it said that NASA doesn't detect solar protuberance but well Russians with the Coronas-Photon TESIS

look for this example 4/17

[link]

the last one was 600.000 km long ! and could leech planet Mars !

**Hmmm !!!

are we in the scenario of the movie the knowing with Nicholas Cage ?

hope not

**Well ... Such Is ... Hollywood ... So What Can We Say !!

but I prefer the scenario of ce3k

**Yes Indeed !! ... Close Encounters Of The Third Kind !! ... Which Was Nice !!!

or Contact !

**The Movie Had It's ... Quality Moments !! ... Though At The End ... Was A "Sellout" ... To Keeping Individuals ... At A "Certain Level" !!

of Carl Sagan

**He Was A "Governmental Talking Head" ... In Which He Was Involved ... With The "Monolith/Marker/Probe" ... Found In Space ... Which Was Taken To Terra/Earth ... For Study !! ... He & Others ... Notably ... Dr. Michael
Wolf ... Were Exposed To It's High Energies/Radiations ... Which Brought On Cancers !! ... Of The Position Promoted By Carl Sagan ... Being This "Spokesperson" ... & "Governmental Positions/Lies" Dispensed ... Of Not
Having Any Contact !! ... The Evidences Say Differently !! ... Of His Cancer (Dying From These High Energy/Radiation Exposures !!) ... & Of Dr. Michael
Wolf Saying/Verifying ... That Carl Sagan ... Was On The Project !! ... This Logically Concludes ... That He Lied Consistantly To The Public !!!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 630143

**Here Is The "Follow Up Posting" ... In Regards To STO (Service To Others) & STS (Service To Self) !!

**Let Us Begin Way Before These "Created Terms" Were Put In Use !!

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Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427



THANK YOU ST for such a detailed explanation!! Very much appreciated!!

Canundrum
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ME THINKS THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE SEVERELY CLEANED. 700+ pages hurts my miniscule human brain.
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Hi! ST,

Horus visited again!! Absolutely cheerful & wonderful!

Peace for you One people & Bird people! =)

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Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 666713

Lasco 3 SOHO 1 May 09

:soholasc3:

**Oh Nutsy !!! ... The Picture Didn't Show Up !!!! ... Ratts !!!!

Farewell For Now !!

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:soholas3:
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ST... Interesting post from R M N

NEXT WEEKEND - PLANETARY LOVE BLAST FROM THE HUNAB-KU...?

Posted By: hobie
Date: Saturday, 2-May-2009 15:43:08 Hi, Folks -

Lots of folks on Internet are talking about the period of May 9 through May 11 - that's Saturday through Monday, a week from now.

Famous fellow interested in all things Mayan, Carl Johan Calleman, has written about it, describing it as "paradoxically auspicious and ominous:

The Rebirth Celebration by Carl Johan Calleman
May 9-11, 2009
In May 2009 a major emanation from the Hunab-Ku, an unfathomably large intelligence in the center of the universe according to Mayan Cosmology, will inform a magnificent birth of cosmic proportions. This epoch period, the Mid-Point of the Sixth Day of the Galactic Underworld, gives humanity an unprecedented opportunity to cooperate with the forces of evolution to fulfill individual and collective purposes, and to create a sustainable world of harmony, abundance and balance with Nature. As with any birth, there is also death…death of that which is no longer supported by these new evolutionary energies. This article provides the background for this paradoxically auspicious and ominous moment, and what we can do personally and collectively to consciously participate in it.

Two related, detailed articles by Calleman are here:
[link to www.calleman.com]

So who/what is this Hunab-Ku guy? Calleman writes:

The Cosmic Tree of Life, according to Mayan, and other ancient traditions is an unfathomably large intelligence, Hunab-Ku, at the center of the universe that makes quantum jumps at critical shift points in the calendar. The existence of such a central axis of the universe has recently (2003) been discovered by science, which I believe to be one of the most consequential discoveries of all time and elaborate on in the forthcoming The Purposeful Universe (Inner Traditions, December 2009). It is the energies emanating from this Cosmic Tree of Life that serve to synchronize evolution on all levels of the universe. It is through our own resonance with this, and with its quantum shifts, that we are inspired to create our world in accordance with the wave movements of seven DAYS and six NIGHTS in the cosmic plan.
Well, ain't that an innerestin' idea...! :)
Here's a brief excerpt from the transcript of Mark Huber's Tuesday night teleconference this past week:

Tara: It is Hunab Ku. This is the central intelligence of the universe. Between the 9th and the 11th, they are resetting the template of intelligence for the Age of Enlightenment. That's Aquarius. This is very, very [definitive].
That means all the old order is completely not in the picture. It is not part of the new story. It is the old story so this is MAJOR! It lasts two weeks from the 18th to the 28th of April The elders of all the native Turtle Island clan have been gathering in secret, events that are to help prepare all life for this new attunement. This is not just a small thing. This is the whole next ascension spiral of the end of the Mayan Calendar.

Mark: Right. The Mayan Calendar, the Elders of the Mayan philosophy/understanding/wisdom have been participating along with other indigenous leaders/spiritual leaders. This is something that you can see. They have been taking it step by step to surround and to increase and to lift up all the energies to a place that when this energy comes in. . . There is no more powerful energy in the universe than this one coming from Kunab Ku and that is the most powerful one. We are all in this together. This is not just another day – not like Flag Day where you go out, buy a flag, wave it for 5 minutes and then it is all over. We will all be changed by these new energies.

We're at a point when anything can happen. Expect anything and expect nothing. You can be sure that we are being changed as much internally as we are being changed externally. Allowed to see things as they are now starting to get into the public mode.

Some fun, eh? :)"Expect anything and expect nothing," he said. In other words, stand open for "the new" to put in an appearance but don't try to pre-visualize what it's gonna look like.
According to Calleman, and alluded to in the words of the teleconference, "the old" cannot go where we're perhaps about to go. That might well mean some "structures" are about to collapse. Calleman spends a fair amount of time speaking of the current economic crisis/crises in this regard, and mentions that the banksters and politicians seem to be pulling out all the stops in an effort to sustain the "old" way of doing things. But, it would appear, the time of the old ways may be over, finished, done.

What might happen, then? Calleman sees possiblities of collapse and hardship for many. Maybe. But then, Calleman doesn't know about whatever Calleman doesn't know about. :) Are there indeed "white hats" who have been hard at work behind the scenes, to insure a "new way" is already prepared and waiting to emerge? Perhaps we'll, soon now, find out. :)

I think there's growing agreement among the people, among the "dwellers upon the land", that they've had enough of the old ways, the ways of pillaging the planet for the sake of profit, the ways of a few people positioning themselves in power points of control over the many, etc. Perhaps we're collectively "done with that," or soon will be.

But there's a catch-22 in all this, some details we probably have not fully considered thus far. As the channeled group known as "Ion" mentioned on the Raye-dio Friday, "You ask a few people to handle things like poverty and infrastructure for you - but then you say, 'Whoa! You're not the boss of me!" :)

Get it? We've been in process of making a decision, and a declaration to the Cosmos so to speak, about how our world has been being run. Many more of us than ever before have been saying, "We just wanna be left alone to live our lives - so get off our backs, already!"

And that's fine. But it does beg the question, "Who, then, will take care of the poor? Who, then, will take care of the infrastructure, keep the water, electricity, and gas flowing, the food on the store shelves, and so on...?"

The answer might be, "We will." :) Maybe we'll be finding that out. We might also find out we're better able, better equipped, to take on those responsibilities than we might have imagined. Apparently there are dramatic "internal changes" that have been in progress, quietly and simultaneously with the collapse of "the old". Perhaps everything will turn out just right. :)

Blessings.

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Greetings ST..

And now for the next exciting, thrill packed, toe clinging , cliff hanging saga of Telestrator Tales.. ak.. the Chronicles of Doom....

Today, there were so many messages that I can hardly keep the straight in my mind as to order.

A lot was the streams of pink hearts from southwest to Northeast and then, the pink dust.

But one showed the pink hearts streaming from Southwest to Northeast changing into pink,opening, spinning circles ( like spinning 9s).

In addition to this.. Large birds were flying about. But One was larger that the rest and it had wings like an eagle. ( Like the soho pic of Nibiru). It moved from South to North.

But the most frustrating message was a manuscript. It was in American... But UP SIDE DOWN. There were emphasis on some words as they would go bold and divert my attention.. and then fade. The only two words I can give you for sure were... GOVERNMENT and INTRANSIGENCE.

It is hard to read UPSIDEDOWN while things are fading in and out and I try to focus. So please tell them to put it right side up next time.. Please.

But I think the gist was.. Because of Intransigence of Government, Nibiru is coming.

There were several paragraphs. But I did not have the view long enough to get it all.

Finally I had a dream. The content was not much to describe. I have had it before. But there was a change this time.

There was a little boy ( small and odd looking). He looked to be around 7 or 8. I asked him how old he was. He said.... 15. ( 15 May? )

Is about all I recall.

Thank you for the Information about the bull. I did think at first it was a cow by the way its legs were when it was levitated. So a bull can mean Nibiru?

((hugs))

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Hobie just read your thoughts and yes... it is really amazing that when the proverbial sh,,,t hits the fan people step up to the plate - just ordinary people like you and I...After the Victorian fires in Australia recently it was the people of Victoria that came forward - caravans for the homeless were given up ... their own most times - heaps and heaps of clothes- food -money in the millions - builders came forward.. to help re build burnt out residences...volunteers to distribute food - cook food, people took in the homeless -- just rather extrordinary.. just a few words to reinforce what you noted yourself
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The true deciever will be exposed in time, I will let you watch/experience the events then you decide if this thread was nonsense or real when time comes.

But remember that the draconians have no problem telling you what they are going to do to you they find it amusing the irony in it; that you listen to them like idols while they tell you of their plans to make you suffer.

Some are to well programmed with infuelences they dont even know are possible such as E.L.F technologys. So it will be extremely hard to awaken them and they will follow without question that being there choice to remain ignorant and controled.

Good luck in your future it holds many challeges some of which many wont pass.

Adonai Bless

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Someone, somewhere ALWAYS has it worse than you, and someone, somewhere else worse than them, and so on....You think you have it bad, but someone else has it much worse.
 Quoting: Canundrum 630143


The "logic of worse" justify nothing and solve nothing, it is a dangerous way from my point of view. Whene you think like that, you allow you to accept worse, and worse, then finaly to accept the hell... and again you say "there is worse out there"... Remember, if i chose, they chose too... so why to be sad about me, and the worse ? Strange problem no ? Who have compassion, who have not ? Be logical, and discover how some contradictions can lead you to anything.

what about "the matrix" ? what about "the collective coussiousness" ? What about what you and we "agreed" ?

I'm a great dreamer and utopian, so i don't agreed "anything". That is my choice, and i pay for that, because many humans "agreed" for some "worse" things...

Remember too, many human dieing befor you and me, without any "ET's Knowledge", are they stollen in hell ? How the univers work ? Are you pressed ? Who is in emergency ? Why ?

In my point of view, ST in BG don't deliver any usefull knowledge and in some "strage" format to add "confusion", maybe because that is not in its interest ? or because he don't have it ? to me, he "simulate", he is just a "preaty good" psychologue... In my point of view, you deliver more usefull knowledge (and love) than ST in BG... ho so strange, you, an human ? with knowledge ?... maybe i'm in the darkness... or maybe i have some "other view", and some "non-factual/abstract knowledge" that lead me away from some "easy way". Or maybe i'm in the darkness... unlike ST in BG, i encourage you to doubt about me... because, i doubt about me...

Again, it is up to you to hold onto the dark or move to the light.
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Maybe, i'm the light, and you too, who knows ?

look at this, just for curiosity : [link to www.haverford.edu] Some other religious garbage hum ?
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Where is the ET guy??

I want to ask him if the LA Lakers are going to win the championship
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thank you for reponses ST In Bg :-)

you said "The Ancient Ones"... I think that we are the fifth wave sinds the creation but we only remember last 15000 years from now

somes traces of the fourth age was discovered in some countries

I believe too that mars was "human" populated in far past time, we have just forgotten that

thank you for the idea aboutr carl sagan and monolith , the series of Arthur C. Clarke is not terminated with 2010 as you know probably

2061 : Odyssey Three

3001 : The Final Odyssey

It could be Apollo 10 wich recovered the artefact (mission Stafford, Cernan and Young)

some said that it could be in Abaco, Bahamas Islands

abaco.. abacus ;-)

obaca.. obama juste a joke of course.. but obama came form hawaii after all.. ancient mu empire in south pacific... who knows after all

nevertheless its seems that the monolyth was smaller trhat that one from Arthur C. Clarke book

so monolyth a just a link.. a knowledge capsule in my view and you .. don't force information isn't ?

the important fact is the proportion

1 x 4 x 9

...first prime number at squared power

so this is the second level of knowledge... the next step

are you agree with that view ?
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just a complement

my god it's full of stars

[link to www.youtube.com]

then music during appolo 10 mission

[link to www.kindastrange.net]

the information about recovering

[link to www.drboylan.com]

and finally this

[link to www.youtube.com]

I think that crop circle are sonic information ( a form correspond to a sound and a sound cpuld be generate as a wave and this wave could be decoded as message )

the 13 crystal skulls exists also in reality and when submitted to a laser pulsed a wave.; same process

the dropa stines when drived generate a wave.; same process

the caret language is also a combinatory of waves generating a complex general wave

so I think that sounds are a good way to progress

faith are maybe a singeress too with dyatonic voice ;-)

conduit close bells sound.. graham ones of course :-))

or Art ones ? Arthur W. "Art" Bell ?
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Hobie just read your thoughts and yes... it is really amazing that when the proverbial sh,,,t hits the fan people step up to the plate - just ordinary people like you and I...After the Victorian fires in Australia recently it was the people of Victoria that came forward - caravans for the homeless were given up ... their own most times - heaps and heaps of clothes- food -money in the millions - builders came forward.. to help re build burnt out residences...volunteers to distribute food - cook food, people took in the homeless -- just rather extrordinary.. just a few words to reinforce what you noted yourself
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nice info, thanks!!... it *has to change*!!:-)

hf bump hf
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Hello ST in BG


You said recently : they sunk the Titanic.
But the Titanic collided with an iceberg, didn't it ?
How cold they have sunk it ?
Who was aboard who was so important to kill?

So Hitler escaped to Argentina, what did he do there ?
When did he really die ?

Re. the Russian submarine Koursk which sunk and all people aboard died, what happened exactly there ?
It was possible to save the crew but they didn't...??

Thanks for all explanations you can give us.
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only to correct the last link of my previous post,

[link to ufoblogger.blogspot.com]

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Here is an example of Quorum's wisdom that I really admire and agree,

[quote-Quorum-User ID: 667352-4/30/2009 5:03 AM Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 762)
I do not understand. You will be free from this body.
Wispy
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No not Free.... What I mean is their control the other SIDE...!
So if you think problem(s) is over on the other side you will have a big surprise there .....!
Yolgnu.
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If that is true Yolgnu... Then .. there is nothing we can do about it anyway,
Wispy
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Not true [,] [we] can always change fates, hence freewill [.] Once awareness is gained you have access to choices.

Knowledge is your friend learn to trust it and use it wisely.


When I tell people [that] God loves them I do not meant your worlds understanding of God,
I mean a God which is everything including you [,] which [,] because you are a duplication of God [,]
you also are responsible for your own experience

this is why higher beings cant just come in and solve all your problems
because you too are a higher being and that would be breaching your freewill experience.


The power you all hold within you is far more than any ET technology that is in exsistance, within each persons soul is the total sum of the universe for you are also that which you play within.

The programming of this world is deep and learning to identify is the first step to deprograming your world, be
careful on this path for

many who seek to do good can sometimes do evil in exchange
as can evil do good without knowing they have.


The whole point is to aquire balance, until one does they will continue to suffer in there learning

because suffering is the way in which you are shown something isnt right [,] hence your world now.


Quorum
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and the following I think is *essential* for understanding this entire thread,

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Not true can always change fates, hence freewill once awareness is gained you have access to choices. Knowledge is your friend learn to trust it and use it wisely.
Quorum
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Remember None CAN HIDE WHAT THEY ARE.. this is true For Here and the Other SIDE ...!
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WE Have to Test everything WE see and with which WE come into contact, with total discernment. THAT'S INCLUDE THE OTHER SIDE ...!

Yolgnu.
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 Quoting: Yolgnu.-

that's why GLP is a *discussion* forum,

no one can tell what to believe or not, but everyone *always* has something to contribute.
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quoting:ST In BG 634427



New comments added with my usual ----

Thanks again.



I really really hope Nibiru does show up..

**For Us ... It Has ... Already "Shown Up" ... In Which We Can "See" This !! .... However ... To Be Given The "Green Light" ... To Go ... And ... "Do It's Thing" ... Well ... We Hope Sufficient Cause ... Has Been Demonstrated ... That The Time ... Is Indeed NOW !!! ... In Which To ... Let It Go !!!

----Well I do hope this is it but forgive me if I feel somewhat that we'll be here on May 16th as usual with no major upheavals. TPTB have done so many terrible things over the centuries and none of them triggered Nibiru so I don't feel too confident this time will be any different. Even if this flu is neutralized they will just try something else. For now that is my feeling that May 16th will arrive in relatively "normal" fashion but it's not long to wait to find out, so I'll leave it at that and keep my fingers crossed that we can finally make the transition.


on the 9th as we are guessing from the latest telestrator tales.

**Yes ... The Latest Was Indicating Perhaps ... May 9th !! ... This Would Be Moreso ... Leading Into ... The Main Passage !! ... Of Which "Normally" ... There Is ... One Of Your Weeks ... Of 7 Days ... Before This Occurs !!
.... So May 7, 8, 9 ... Are Not Out Of The Question !! ... And Of Note ... From May 8th ... To May 15th ... Is 1 Week !!

I was just going to post earlier that I figured the May 7,8,9th dates have been taken off the table as they
were not included in the most recent telestrator tales, but now the newest one is showing the 9s...

**Yes ... The Newest Is Showing All 9's !! ... So This Could Mean ... Of May 9th !! ... Let Us Hope !!


---- I have a question regarding the approximately 1 between the preliminary events leading up to the main passage and the main passage itself. You said a while back (a few months ago I think) that Nibiru had passed the planet Jupiter in its approach. Also that due to interactions Nibiru is being held up somewhat and when released will fly past us very very quickly, much like a slingshot effect. I was under the impression that this quick flyby would take less than a week.. more like minutes or seconds. I suppose though that covering the distance roughly between jupiter and earth in a week would be considered extremely fast by most accounts. So when the preliminary effects begin to be felt does that mean Nibiru has been released, and then it usually takes approximately a week from then to reach us and pass by? Hope that makes a bit of sense.


so I'm hoping and wishing that is the date..

**Indeed ... So Are We !!

damn has it been a long wait.

**Yes It Has Been ... A Long Wait !!

If this isn't the date we could be in big big trouble soon.

**They Are Already !!

I would really hope that the release of the flu was the final straw and we can get this show on the road now.

**Yes ... This "Release" ... (And It's "Usual Cover Stories" ... For The Public To Swallow !!) ... We Feel WAS ... Done Intentionally ... And Was Done ... To Weaken/Incapacitate ... (If Not Kill Off !!) ... Any
Obstructions/Resistance ... To Those Who May ... Finally Learn ... What Is Up ... & ... "Storm The Castle" ... Prevent "Certain Ones" ... From Getting To Their ... "Safe Areas" .... & To Keep Others ... From Looting ... Destroying ... Killing !! ... Amongst Other Things !!


----Didn't TPTB sort of "jump the gun" on this one? I mean it doesn't appear the public is anywhere near realizing there is an impending Extinction level event. In fact they seem almost as clueless as usual.


Enough is enough already!

**Indeed !! ... We Wholeheartly Agree !!!
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quoting:ST In BG 634427 in
response to VVizz: User ID: 668789

Added my own question preceded by ----



**We Know Many Of You ... Do Not Have Control/Abilities ... Over & To Rectify Many Situations There !! ... Though We Are Not Grouping Those There
... That Are Helping ... Who Are Showing Respect To The Planet ... & All Life Of It's Energies .... As Villains ...

... Just Those ... Who Have Used & Misused Terra/Earth ... For Their Own ... Ill Gotten Gains !! ... Who Have Disrespected All Life & Life Energies There !! ... It Is These ... Of Those Kind ... Who Have Attempted To Make The
Planet ... As A "Garbage Pit" ... To Further Their Own Gains !! ... So Let Judgment Be Rendered Upon Them !! ... Those That Seek To Ruin Things In This Nature ... Let Them Be ... Transformed Into Worms Of The Soil !! ... In This Way ... They Will Be Of Benefit ... And Will Learn By This
Existence ... To Foster A Respect Towards & Of Life !!


---- Is being a worm really that undesirable an existence such that it would qualify as suitable punishment for those that have caused such immense suffering of nearly all lifeforms on the planet?

I would have thought maybe a life as a worm would be rather peaceful and simple. Does this mean by chance that the worms we see now are actually those that showed disrespect for all lifeforms in one or some of their other embodiments?

Would they not still try to control others once they were given another body capable of doing so? Obviously it's not an option to control others as a worm, so at least that would take care of the problem temporarily.

Thanks.
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and the following is the natural complement of what was said above,

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Krishnamurti once said :
I don't want you to believe, I want you to open your mind !
Stay free in what you believe.
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My mind was opened as a child; I saw way more than others see.
I have read tons of channelled material. There are nuggets of good info in some of them, and lots of bogus in others.


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 Quoting: Canundrum 597166- Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 763)

which I interpret as: having an open mind doesn't mean to accept everything you read.

neither we need to kill the messenger if don't agree!:-)
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Hi Quorum,

regarding your following statement
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**Yep !! ... They Have Their "Reasons" ... So Compensated (Or So They Think !!) ... For Attempting To Disrupt/Interfere Here !!
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ST In BG
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They should be capable of reasoning that if those that pay them don't want the information in this thread to get out, then the information they are debunking must be true or have value. Therefore one would think they could reason that they should not be debunking the thread since you've stated here that there could be repercussions for doing so once Nibiru has come through and we go to the transit stations.
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So ... Even if they managed to figure out that it is not wise to debunk the thread, they may not have a choice anymore.
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This thread is total nonsense to begin with, this entity fills your heads with part truths and distortions it trying to control you.

Why would you fear the concept nibru anyway who says they have any power over you but that which you let them.

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I don't think Nibiru is anything to be afraid of, but on the contrary it's passage would solve many problems by bringing the "cleansing" that is so necessary in the world now.
Therefore, I don't think ST is using "fear tactics" here.

Do you believe we can avert the passage of Nibiru, or is it inevitable?

What about 2012? What's going to happen then?

OTOH, I agree with the following,
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Its time people begin to ask questions of everything and learn for yourself instead of look for mentors or guides to tell you what to do why dont you guide and mentor yourself
you have the tools "a mind and a heart" to do it with time to start using it and learn for yourself.

 Quoting: Quorum 667352


Do you believe the "time" (evolutionary process of humanity) is passing faster now?

Do you believe we (humans) are going to have a huge increase in the cosmic radiation that reaches Earth, from now untill 2012? (as some NASA reports are saying)

Thanks!
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Hi anakin_nEo, regarding your interesting post about cosmic radiation

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look for example at the neutron flux

here

[link to cr0.izmiran.rssi.ru]

you could see ig you take the monthly graph that something ..is going on

the neutron flux talk about solar activity but the sun is quite those times, but the neutron flux is also a measure of "pression"

what do you think about this elevation ? ...is it the sign of the travelling of system solar in a more dense zone in the galaxy or sign of change in course

...do you feel thoses changes ?
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first of all, thanks for the link, I didn't know it, very nice!

Regarding the monthly variation as you said, all I can see is an interesting display of *regularity* that follow to a certain extent the 11 years oscillation of the usual solar activity.

But it's interesting that it seems to go *opposite* to the solar activity (but I'd have to check this better to be sure) as, for example, in the turn of the century the Sun was at it's peak activity for the last solar cycle #23 (which I believe we're still *in*, the #24 has not "effectively" started yet IMO), which coincides with one of the minima of the monthly graph in that page.

Which could possibly cause this "opposition"??

One could possibly think about the *weakening* of the heliosphere (25% in the last 10 years) as a possible cause, but what could be causing the regular opposition, as before 1999 the heliosphere is supposed/was in its full intensity??

The Sun is really playing games with us (humans!:-) recently don't you think?
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