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Greetings: Yolgnu.: User ID: 675574

Quoting: ST In BG 634427

**Quoting: NightWisp

"ST.. Is this the source of my Gamma rays in the telestrator Tales?"

**Quoting: ST In BG

**"Well ... It's Possible ... That This Is ... Playing A Role !!"

LoL I like The "D. Butterfly" Meaning there lolol

**No Yolgnu ... The Meaning Was Straight Forward ... & Quite CLEAR ... In Regard To Our Response Saying ... That It Is Possible ... That Of This "Gamma Ray Source" .... That It May Be The Same As Referred To ... In The "Telestrator Tales" !! ... Your Reading Into Such ... To Promote Your Own Falsehoods ... Is Neither Correct ... Nor Honorable !!

AnyWay...!

Yolgnu.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Personally I don't believe there is any sort of conspiracy there.

No, he juste keep you focused and create a kind of "information streaming" that drain your atention (energy ?)... then, that is quite like TV or older religions...maybe the conspiracy is 'beyond' and truth 'out there'...

 Quoting: void 667543- Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 775)


It's possible. I've been reading the thread since 2007 and still can't determine whats really going on. The fact that it's May 2009 and we're still hearing the passage is "soon" "very soon" "very very soon" or "very very very soon" makes me suspicious... I can't help it. It certainly is incredibly draining for me to keep following the thread but I can't seem to get myself away from it. I always figured it sounded too good to be true that we'd really be out of this terrible world and on to the wonders of "4th density" any time soon. I guess I'll probably be stuck here until our year 2012, and then if it hasn't passed by then I can probably feel at peace leaving this thread behind.

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thanks for your honesty, both of you.

I really disagree with Truth2 regarding the "great teachings" of ST in BG. Her statements sometimes resemble those fundamentalist Christians who "know" that all truth is in the Bible and if anyone else disagrees is because they have some sort of sin, or other problem/disturbance that is binding them from seeing the truth.

IMO this thread is a honest channeled work, with lots of good intention it seems and serious effort to bring what he/they feel is important for all to know.

But there are many weak points and even contradictions sometimes. The greatest problem here is that the passage of Nibiru, which is the central point of the thread, is *not known* when it will happen and even ST cannot gives us any more info about this. Of course, soon is not a good answer as it can very well mean "never".

The thread would probably be dead already if it was not talking about the certain passage of Nibiru, which is a similar situation as Nancy Leader and zetatalk.

ST has no doubts that it *will pass* and even give some details about the planet/spacecraft, but when the questions become too specific, mainly regarding dates, the answers become evasive or even contradictory.

I respect ST in BG and the conduit and their effort, I feel that he/they truly "believe"("know") in what they are doing and this is pretty important IMO.

But one must be prepared for this kind of evasive answers if one wants to continue to come here to look for some nuggets of truth...

This sort of problems is part of all channeled work that I have had contact with...

including the good parts of the Bible...
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Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 675813

**In Response To: Anonymous Coward 675456 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 675456

Everyone who reads this thread and believes that this guy is an alien in a human body, wake the F up! He has made predictions such as 2008 was the real 2012 and that Nibiru would pass in the real 2012, which was 2008. He then said that Nibiru was stuck, or paused, because it didn't happen when he said it would. He then predicted CERN was going to lead to then end by eluding that it would destroy the Earth. Now he said Nibiru was going to pass again and that May 8-9, were the dates. How many failed predictions do you need to see that this guy is duping you.

Sad really.

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Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 775)

I believe you have a good point here, but I believe also ST in BG is a honest channel (conduit as he/they say),

**We Are Not ... A "Channel" As In "Channeling" !! ... This Infers That The Material That Is Being Related ... Is Coming Through ... The "Terrestrial Filters" ... Of Which It Is Not !! ... The Conduit (Referring To The Terrestrial Male That Has Volunteered ... & Has Been Altered For These Communications (Of Which "Channelers" Have Not !!) ... Is Relating Of This Information Directly From Us !! ... So You Are Indeed ... Conversing Directly !! ... Though Of Course There Is A Slight Delay ... Due To Availability Of The Conduit(A Connection Between Here & There !!) ... On His End !!

My point of view is that here as in every other channeled
message a lot of discretion has to be used regarding the ideas being passed and the consequences of accepting them.

**That's Nice ... BUT ... This Applies To ... "Channeled Messages" ... Which Of Our Responses ... Are Not "Channeled" !!

See for example the problematic example of Nancy Leader and how much nonsense is said in zetatalk that is supposed to be the truth.

**That Is A Combination !! ... You Are Dealing With ... "A Governmental Program" ... So Altered ... In Order To Facilitate ... The Release Of Information ... Primarily About ... The Coming Approach Of Nibiru ... In Accordance With The New "Changed" Rules !! ... So In Accordance With These "New "Changed" Rules" ... The Information To Be Released ... Would Have To Be Distorted In Some Way ... Along With This ... Is The Freedom Of Those So Hired (And Hanging Out In The Talks/Chats) ... To Debunk What Is Being Said !! ... Such Is Of Their Roles ... To Do This ... And Add To The "Color" The Notoriety ... Therefore The Attraction !! ... As Stated Before ... That A
"Grandmother Image" ... A Person For This Role Was Brought In ... Along With Using ... The Zeta Face Image (A Well Known Recognized Image) ... (Without Our Permission We Assure You !!!) .... In Order So As ... To Divert Suspicions ... So Few Would Suspect ... That This Is ... Of "Terrestrial Authorative Informations" ... Of "Terrestrial Sources" ... Rather Then ... Of Direct ... "Extraterrestrial Informations" !!!

I believe that people that come to this thread do it because they feel the need to "interact" with the higher realms of life in a more direct way,

**Well ... You Are Getting Our Thoughts Direct !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

and what better form of doing this than to talk directly with the "beings" that live there?

**Indeed !! ... That Live, Work, Play ... Oh & Lots More !!!

But is important also to have a clear idea of what we really believe that makes sense in life, about God, about science, about the meaning of other people in our lives, about our country, politics, capitalism ... everything.

**The Problem Is ... Your "Reality" Is Based On ... "Set Beliefs" ... Of A "Feel Good Knowledge" ... That All Is Understood ... And All In Control !! ... A Belief "Spoon Fed" To You ... To Believe In These ... "Terrestrial
Authorities" ... As They Would Not Lie To You !!! ... (Guess Again !!!) ... So Of This ... You Are "Trained" ... To Think In These "Programmed Ways" !! ... Of That ... "Artificial Reality" ... Which Is ... Just A Created Illusion ... For Others Control, Manipulation & Power Over You !!

If a person doesn't know what is inside her/his heart how can another individual tell that?

**Unless Those There ... Are Of "Advanced Medicine" (Beyond Those Backwards & Dangerous Terrestrial "Medical Practices" !!) ... And Can Actually ... Peer Inside The Heart ... Then We Very Much Doubt ... That You Can Know ... What Is Inside !!!

It won't happen, and the possibility of this interaction to cause even more confusion is great and some may really get
lost.

**Well It Is ... Quite Different ... Conversing Direct With ... Extraterrestrial Beings ... Versus ... Those There ... In Terrestrial Forms !!

Thank you for the heads up, but I believe the majority of the people that usually come to this thread are already conscious of the perils of such "direct contact" may have, with a realm that we (the majority of humans) can barely perceive.

**It Does Take ... Some Getting Used To !! ... Even For Us !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

It's a learning process for those who are willing to take the risk.

**Indeed !! ... It Is A Learning Process !!

I, for one, am specially because of the idea of Nibiru and the feeling that we live in "special times" much more and different than anything before, even the XX century.

**Yes ... Of Nibiru ... And Of The Transition Of Densities ... Of Dimensions ... You Do Indeed Live In ... "Interesting Times" !! ... Hmmm !! ... Seems To Us ... There Is On Terra/Earth ... This Used As A Curse !! ... "May You Live ... In Interesting Times" !! ... Though It Not As Much A Curse ... As Simply ... How Things Are !!

The process of evolution of humankind seems to be accelerating and I'm trying to understand what is happening...

**Indeed So !! ... And The Evolving Of The Planet ... All Life Of The Planet Terra/Earth ... Is To Take Place !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings: mj-13: User ID: 674333

Greetings ST in BG.

I found it rather odd that in my last post, you didn't really give much of a response like usual.

**What Did You Wish Us To Say ???

All you could come up with was the word "curious" in your response to my angelic experience.

**It Was ... "Curious" !! ... Such As Of The Thought ... The Need ... Of "Extraterrestrial Beings/Energies" .... To Appear In That Form To You !!

Can you be a little more specific as to what your perspective is regarding that experience?

**We Just Were !!

You say you don't believe in angels,

**We Are NOT "Religious" ... And Have NO "God" !! ... Likewise ... We Have NO Angels !! ... A CREATED .. "Religious Concept" !!

but is it possible that it might just be a matter of "semantics".

**NO !! ... It Is Not !!

What I mean is, even though the term "angel" has a religious connotation, it doesn't mean such beings don't
exist.

**The Beings Exist ... But Not In Those "Looks" !! ... We Prefer To See & Have Interactions ... Exactly ... How They Are !! ... Not Of Some ... "Terrestrial False Belief Systems" ... Which Are Intended To Make Ones Of These Beliefs/Natures ... Feel More Relaxed !!

Okay, maybe they don't have "wings" or have "halos" circling around their heads.

**That's Right !!!

The definition in my personal book of an angel would be of a spirit being that protects or watches out for a living (third density) being.

**Why Call Them "Angels" ... When They Are NOT !! ... "Angels" Is Of ... "Religious Programming" !!

From that perspective, I think you could agree that such souls "beings" exist for the greater good of protecting man kind.

**They Are NOT "Souls" Either !! ... Another ... "Religious/New Age" Term ... Of Misunderstanding/Non-Understanding !! ... As To "Protecting Mankind" ... It Just Depends On ... What The Mission Is !! ... What They Are Assigned !!

I have had other experiences to back up my angelic "theory".

Again, if it is just about semantics (mis-classification),

**It's About ... Not Knowing What Or Whom ... You Are Dealing With !!!

then there really isn't an argument here.

**Not An Argument !! ... It's From Your End ... Of Images Gathered Of "Religious Beliefs" ... And For Us ... Seeing Things ... As They Are !! ... I Suspect You Would Be ... Scared To Sh--list ... If You Saw What They Really Looked Like !! ... For Us & The Conduit ... We Would Be Laughing ... Perhaps Even Crying ... Being So Happy ... Of The Visitation ... & Being Around Those Of Friends & Comrades ... Which Are Missed So Much ... Being In Terrestrial Form !!

If I were to say that "angels" could be in reference to either human or non-human (ET) souls that intervene in human lives (divine intervention) to protect those third density beings from hurt, injured or killed, I would
essentially be talking about the same thing.

**No !!! ... You Would Be Talking About ... Extraterrestrial Beings ... Appearing In "Angelic Disguises" ... That Are Assigned ... Are Given Such
Duties !!

I guess "angel" would be just a misnomer or mis-classification

**It Is Of ... "Belief" ... Not Understanding !!

but still the same thing in essence.

**No ... It Is Not !!

I remember one time where I did have a near death experience in the sense that I avoided a major automobile accident. Years ago, when I was about 21 years
old, I use to be a life guard/swimming instructor at the local YMCA's in ST.Louis. I worked at three different locations at the time (Chesterfield, Kirkwood and Webster Groves). My job was to supervise a swimming pool in
order to maintain the safety of its occupants. In case someone were to go under water and potentially drown, it would be my job to rescue them before such a tragedy would occur. I also taught swimming to the children as well
as T.O.W. classes. Those classes were for children and adults who were terrified of water. In addition, I also taught those with mental retardation how to swim as well as those who were terrified of water. Any way, one night
when I was coming home from a day at work, I remember that it was raining out and there was road construction ahead of me on the highway interstate. I remember looking ahead of my car in the distance and seeing an illuminated
warning/ message board. It was a new form of safety communication at the time and I for one had never seen one before. It basically was a message board on the side of the road stating that traffic was coming up ahead and
to slow down for such traffic was in a construction zone. This particular area was at the junction of highway 270 and 40/61. Anyway, by the time I got close enough to read the letters on the illuminated message board, traffic
had already managed to back up as far as the message board rendering it useless in warning me of stopped traffic. So the moment I saw the warning on the sign, it was too late for I was about to crash into stopped traffic on
the interstate. Anyway, just as I was about to take my eyes off of the sign and look ahead, my hands immediately turned the steering wheel to the right.
Just then, I realized how fortunate I was for I narrowly missed killing myself and possibly others in a highly probable chain-reaction collision. As far as I would have fared, I most likely would have died due to massive
internal and external injuries. The car at the time I was driving was a compact (Plymouth Sundance) that did not have a passive restraint system (frontal air bag) for it was not made in that model year of the car (1989).
The following year (1990) it was, but I didn't have it. Going about 60-65mph into stopped traffic in a compact with no PRS air bag (even though I had a seat belt on) would most likely have been a death sentence for me. With that said, I managed to walk away from death.

But the trillion dollar question is: How? How did I do it? The only logical answer that I have is essentially to transcend logic and consider the plausibility of "divine intervention".

**Intervention Yes !! ... "Divine Intervention" No !!

You can call an "angel", a "soul" or an "ET" from another dimension.

**We Would Not Call ... ET Beings ... "Angels" ... Or "Souls" !! ... We Would Call Them ... As They Are !!

All the same in my book!

**Then You Need ... To Compose/Begin A New Chapter !! ... Starting With ... Clarification Of ... The "Appearance Of "Angels" ... Subheading ... What "Angels" Really Are !!

They/it saved my life and I will always be indebted to them/it.

**It Was Not ... Of Your "Time" To Exit !! ... Besides ... You Were Needed ... For "Other Things" !!

I don't care what "science" says that I had "experienced".

**Terrestrial Science" ... Oh Boy !! ... Talk About ... Living In Darkness There !!! ... Pet Theories Made Into Truths !! ... One Of These ... "Don't Get Us Started" ... On That One !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!

I know for a fact that I was saved by someone or something.

**Granted !!

Something that night took the wheel of my car and saved me from certain death.

**A Simple Thing To Do Really !! ... By Remote ... Or Actually ... Physically Taking Charge !!

I know that there are nay sayers out there that don't believe in such intervention but I really could careless what the hell they think.

**Well ... We Know Such Happens ... As We Have "Intervened" ... Of Many Of Moments !! ... Maybe We Did There Too ?? ... Though Such "Personal Records"
... Are Not Available !!

They probably would come up with some elaborate bullsh*** that my peripheral vision came into play with my ability to some how react with tremendous reflexes.

**They Have A Tendency To ... "Write Off" ... Such Things ... That They Don't Understand ... Or Don't Wish To Understand !!

If that is the case, how did I know to jump into the next lane? I didn't even look. If it were occupied, I would have crashed latterally into another vehicle causing them
to possibly lose their live(s) as well. I didn't know the other lane was occupied as well as I wasn't aware of the stopped traffic ahead of me for I was distracted by this new type of message communication sign on the side of
the road.

**The Easy Explanation Is ... You Were Being ... Watched Over !!

So anyway, that's my other "angelic" story.

**Yes Of Course !!

I know you probably don't believe in angels,

**We Don't Subscribe ... To That Interpretation !!

but you have to admit that there was divine intervention here (same thing!!!).

**"Divine Intervention" (Injecting Of Religion & Religious "Beliefs") ... & ... "Intervention" ... Are Not The Same Things !!

Please give me some analysis to this from your perspective.

**We Just Did !!

Also give me examples of when a "higher power" came to
your aide or assisted you in some way.

**We Have No ... "Higher Powers" ... Of "Religious Beliefs" !! ... We Do Have However ... Of Helping/Healing That Has Been Done ... To The Conduit ... Per Agreement To Come There ... & Animate That Form ... For His Missions
There !! ... The "ET Medical Plan" ... As It Were !!

**Examples ... Being Worked On/Healed ... Of A Softball Bat Injury ... As A Child !! .... Being Worked On/Healed ... Of A Leapfrog Accident ... Being Worked On/Healed ... Of A "Phased Into Of Another Lifetime ... Bird Being ... & Hopping/Flying Off A Couch ... Numerous Work Injuries ... Many Medical Treatments, Healings ... Too Many To Count/Relate !!!

**Here Is An "Older Webpage/Posting" I Made ... To A Site !! ... Since Then ... There Have Been Some Changes ... (Such As "Zetas/Zeta Reticulians" ...
Revealed As Being Called (Translated Into American English: As: The People/One People) .... And More Information ... About The "Softball Bat Injury" ... Which At That Time ... Was Not Revealed ... That In Route To The
Hospital ... That The Vehicle We Were Traveling In ... Was Lifted ... & Taken Aboard Ship ... With My Birthmother & Myself Inside !! ... The Injury Was Such ... That It Needed To Be Stabilized !! ... So I Was Worked On ...
Before Reaching The Terrestrial Hospital !! ... And Then ... Worked On Later Too !!

[link to www2.hawaii.edu]

Maybe you or others in your crew/collective can relate to this story.

**We Can Relate ... As Quite Possibly ... Many Of Us ... May Have Participated !!

Please do tell. I would love to hear your experiences or others around you that can relate.

**There Are More Experiences ... Which Have Been Recorded ... In Notebooks !! ... **Another Thing Which Needs To Be ... Brought Up To Date !! ... & Those Things ... Which Have Not Been Recorded !!

Your friend and future flying partner in the universe,

**Yes Of Course !!

MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings ST in BG. Wow, did I light a fire under your glutious maximus or what! With all of those exclamations and did I see a censored curse word in there? I wasn't trying to piss you off you know. The bottom line is that we humans do not have anything to go on but blind faith and the limited belief systems that have be around for us to guess at how things are. I might not be a religious fanatic like a lot of folks out there on Earth. I do have a Jewish background but I do accept many folks of diverse religions and cultures. I have friends of all races, cultures, creeds and gender. I don't judge others unless they judge me (falsely). I try to see the good in all people (not terrorists or evil individuals though). With that said, and knowing that I don't have all the answers to all the questions and do have faith that there is some type or form of creation/creator/higher power, please give me a little latitude here. I am not arguing with you but just showing that there are examples of things that are truly wonderful and that from our perspective (human perspective), that there is a higher presence. You say there is no such thing as angels but there are ET's looking out for us. Well then I would give that ET the honor of bestowing upon it the classification of Angel. That is a very honorable gesture on my part for what I experienced with what you said was ET intervention, I found to be such a positive that I would classify it as divinicle. I guess you could consider yourselves divine interventionalists for looking out for humanity. With that, I am very greatful for your help. Yes, the Angel that came to me was very kind. I must say though, she did not look human though. She looked more like an ET for she didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit up the room I might add). So for you to say that this being was "window dressing" for me, she could have easily donned a religous angelic out fit and had a more human looking face. Oh, and most humans are not 8 feet tall by the way! So you are saying she could have scared the sh**t out of me if she were to reveal her true colors? Well what do you think Praying Mantis man did when I was in the bathroom? I am sure he had a good laugh at my expense and that dude was 15-20 feet tall with insect features and an additional "compound eye". Yeah that was quite interesting. As a matter of fact, I would like to see you how you really are and what your true intentions are. I would like to believe that most of the ET's (a vast majority) are actually good and mean well to mankind. I really hope that is the case. Anyway, I know we have breached the subject before, but I still holdfast to the belief of a "creator". That doesn't mean a man or ET on a throne with a long beard, staff in hand and a golden crown on the head. My belief is in a "force" or a collective intellegent "force" that created all of us. I don't prescribe to any belief system in that regard (regarding G-d). Most belief systems have their own concept of that which is a creator. But you say that there is no "creator". But who created you? Who created all life in the universe? Who created the universe? That is what I am referring to in a "creator" or "creational force collective". Not some kind of man or entity on a throne that so many belief systems seem to point to. I just find it hard to believe that in the vastness of the multiverse and all of its infinite number of inhabitants and galaxies and such, that no such creator exists. Thank you, MJ-13.

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Thanks ST for your (again!) honest answer below,

Greetings: angelpbj: User ID: 675813

Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 775)

I believe you have a good point here, but I believe also ST in BG is a honest channel (conduit as he/they say),

**We Are Not ... A "Channel" As In "Channeling" !! ... This Infers That The Material That Is Being Related ... Is Coming Through ... The "Terrestrial Filters" ... Of Which It Is Not !! ... The Conduit (Referring To The Terrestrial Male That Has Volunteered ... & Has Been Altered For These Communications (Of Which "Channelers" Have Not !!) ... Is Relating Of This Information Directly From Us !! ... So You Are Indeed ... Conversing Directly !! ... Though Of Course There Is A Slight Delay ... Due To Availability Of The Conduit(A Connection Between Here & There !!) ... On His End !!

etc.
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Farewell For Now !!
ST In BG
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427- Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ (Page 776)

IMO your honesty is obvious and this is *the main reason* I keep returning to this thread, even when sometimes I disagree or I'm not completely satisfied with your answers, to me or others.

I believe that honesty is the mother of the Truth (oops, no pun intended!:-), even when it leads us through uncertain pathways.

Because honesty reflects our connection with the essence of ourselves, which is always the best guide we have.

Farewell for Now!:-)
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**Yes ... It Seems ... You Are Quite Lacking ... Just In ... Basic Fundamentals !!
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If i'am lacking with fundamentals, what about many other people...

**Oh Boy !! ... An Ego Too !!! ... Try Again !!!!
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Ho yes i have an ego... this strange population here learning me that it is necessary to survive... but don't understand why i have to survive...

**We "Cannot Say" Certain Things ... Because For One ... You Would Not Understand !! ... You Haven't Mastered "Basics" Yet !! ... And For You & Others ... For Certain Informations ... It Is Not ... Yet Of Their Time ... To Know These Things !!
 Quoting: ST In BG 634427


hemmm changing version... now you "cannot say" because it is not yet the time to know...
i have to admit that there no information that i have "yet of my time to know" from you... untile you just provide some "space mythology" that i allready know and some "smoking" concept that i allready know too...
All that you say (unlike you seem to beleive, or want to make me and other beleive) are commonplace for me... how that can happen ?

No connection between Enlil and Tezcatlipoca ? Are you kidding me ?
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Lets play at 'Question for Championship' :

"we have created humanity for enslavement working purpose by genetics, our specialities are hierarchy, vassalage, enslavment, genetics modifications, and we promote ourself as "creators" (as we believe genetic manipulation is "creation"). We probably have the ability to "travel" (manner of speak) through time as we have multiple forms through multiples levels of reality, We know how to use and abuse the freewill of other beings for our own profits (like politics), we like toasted meat specialy after the Deluge, we have a strange unbalanced understanding of "sharing", our project is to come back and become "gods" again but without using the "god" word, we are ? we are ??"

**We ARE ... Anunnaki ...
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YEahh !!! We got a champion !!
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I believe that honesty is the mother of the Truth (oops, no pun intended!:-), even when it leads us through uncertain pathways.
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Yes, and "high ethical level" ETs use "conduit" with "communication implant" (what a Goa'uld ? lol ) to make publicity for themself in an american forum... Great wisdom, realy !
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**You Learn By Experience !! ... As To "Making Mistakes" ... By "Perception" ... This Is How You Learn !! ... How You Evolve !! .... And This Is ... Not
The "Only Goal" Of A Universe(s) !! ... Only One Small Part ... In Teachings/Learnings !!
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And if i don't want to evolve, and just become nothing ? Evolve is hard, too hard for me, sorry... The univers have to "anihilate" me.
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I really disagree with Truth2 regarding the "great teachings" of ST in BG. Her statements sometimes resemble those fundamentalist Christians who "know" that all truth is in the Bible and if anyone else disagrees is because they have some sort of sin, or other problem/disturbance that is binding them from seeing the truth.

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That is Understandable,,,,as you are not Comprehending the "Bigger Picture", yet, of the Volunteers that are here Preparing for the Transition about to take place. As part of this Preparation is Assistance of going Beyond the Religious Programming,,,,stimulating one's Thinking again. Those still stuck in the Programmings will only Percieve of these Distortions in any other Information presented. However, once other things start Coming into "play"...what is being said here will Become clearer.


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The reason I ask is because I sense mixed feelings to your kind's presence here with us.

**Well ... We Were There ... At The Beginnings !! ... And It Was Not ... "Of Religion" !! ... Of Which Were Of Those Few ... Who Saw Ahead !! ... Knowing What ... A "False Creation" ... Of Worship Of The Creators ...
Would Mean ... Down The Road ... Of The Descendants !! ... That "Genetic Flaw/Genetic Problem Of Jealously" ... Was Not Fixed !! ... (Which Meant A Complete Starting All Over ... To Take Care Of The Problem !!) ... Even Though All Of Our Creations Would Take Their Lives ... The
"Problem" ... Would Be Handled Then & There ... Instead Of ... How It Still Is In Your Day ... Passed Along ... Passed On ... Through Genetic Lines !! ... Though Corrected ... With The New Models !!

How are we to interpret you guys as either angels or ETs?

**We Are ET's ... NOT .. "Angels" !!

Is there importance to this?

**ET's Are What We Are !! ... "Angels" ... Is A "Religious" (Created/Made Up/Invention) ... Translation !!


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ST In BG, if the genetic problem of jealousy and "GREED" is still a factor for the old models why not fix the problem directly rather than indirectly by example how parents scold or teach children to be obedient.

""Wait a second!"" That is why you guys have those "VAST" projects isn't it? Your providing humans with interactive guardians and teachers hidden within the mist of 4th density. You cool ET guys haven't quite given up on us ill fated humans totally yet have you? What can I say but thank you...if only other humans could see the value and importance in this we really could close that problematic gap. I wish myself and others could be more responsive for this is hard to learn. For what it's worth please be patient with us and keep up the good work!

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You remplaced "god" by ETs... with the same way of thinking : the fact that humanity are poor creatures that need some "father" or... "big brother"... or it's a joke...
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**Quoting: NightWisp

"ST.. Is this the source of my Gamma rays in the telestrator Tales?"

**Quoting: ST In BG

**"Well ... It's Possible ... That This Is ... Playing A Role !!"

LoL I like The "D. Butterfly" Meaning there lolol

**No Yolgnu ... The Meaning Was Straight Forward ... & Quite CLEAR ... In Regard To Our Response Saying ... That It Is Possible ... That Of This "Gamma Ray Source" .... That It May Be The Same As Referred To ... In The "Telestrator Tales" !! ... Your Reading Into Such ... To Promote Your Own Falsehoods ... Is Neither Correct ... Nor Honorable !!

AnyWay...!

Yolgnu.

Farewell For Now !!

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LoL Why did you CUT my word ST lololol "DOUBLE" Butterfly "MEANING"...!

OR it is that you want me to PLAY a ROLE here lolol

Hee Hee Hee...Promote Your Own Falsehoods Your doing just great with your OWN here SO...

Hee Hee Hee ...!

:o)

AnyWay..!

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Dear ST in BG...

Is the predation a common behavior in the univers ? While we (humans) eat animals and plants, what do you eat ? While we (humans) eat "matter", doese any other "higher level" beings eat some "non-material" things ?
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(9/7/2007 pg 335)
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Hi ST in BG,

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When humans are transferred to 4th density bodies,

**We Understand You To Mean ... The Energies/Energy Essences ... Within The Terrestrial "Human" Bodies ... That Animate It ... And Keep It Alive ?? ... Understand That The Outer Body Covering ... The Shell That Protects The Inner Energies ... Is "Human" ... Of Humus ... Of The Soil ... Of Earth !!

will they still look similar to humans but with a more refined and stronger body?

**Depending On The Body Covering Of Choice ... Or Of That Which Has Been So Arranged ... Excepting For Those Of The Plejarans "Pleiadians" ... And Perhaps An Advanced Form Of "Human Body" ... Though Not "Human" Of That Body Look/Appearance ... In That It Will Have Many ET Features ... (Such As Pointed Ears ... And Color Changing Multi-Spectral Eyes ) ... There Will Be No "Human" !! ... That Particular Model Of 3rd Density ... Served It's Function & Purpose ... & Has Since Been Retired !! ...

**As To The Body Being More Refined & Stronger !! ... Yes Indeed !! ... The Many Areas That Were Susceptible To Breakdowns & Malfunctions In The Terrestrial Forms ... Have Been So Reengineered ... To Now Have All These Things Corrected ... Along With Many Bonus Features ... Depending On Particular Body Forms !! ... Basic Enhancements Will Be ... Telepathic Communications ... Better Seeing ... Hearing ... Levitation ... Thought Traveling ... Access To Greater Knowledge & That Of Other Lives & Lifetimes

Will the body still require exercise and food like the 3rd density body?

**It Will Depend Entirely On The Needs Of The Body Chosen/Selected !! ... There Will Be Forms That Physically Eat ... & Have Certain Dietary Requirements & The Need Of Rest/Sleep Periods ... For Their Physical Well Being !! ... There Will Also Be Those ... While They Can "Eat" ... Taking In Physical Matter ... It Is Not Required !! ... Their Energies Are Not Dependant Upon The Breakdown Of Foods ... Processing ... The Disposal Of Excess Wastes !! ... Also They Would Not Need To Sleep !!

**Exercise/Recreation ... Would Depend On That Form Chosen/Selected !! ... Rather Then The Trudgery Of Exercise On Terra/Earth ... This Is Made Into A Fun Thing To Do ... Of Which In Our Many "Hollodecks/Hollosuites" .... One Can Create Any Fantasy/Scenario ... (Within Safety Limits Of Course !!) ... Which Provides The Necessary Training/Use Of The Muscles ... While Mentally Gives One Pleasure In Doing So ... In Performing These Activities !!
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Farewell For Now !!

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Hello, ST in BG!

WOW! This thread is 777 pages! Let's hope that means Nibiru will be on our doorstep within the next few days!!!

I don't have a question with this post, but simply wanted to share a portion of an earlier post (above) that described some of the changes with the new 4th density bodies/shells. I'm sure many others have the same questions and lack of understanding that I do about these new "suits."

Of course, ST in BG, I can't help thinking about your often repeated phrase, something like, "depending upon the availability of bodies" that makes it sound like you might run out of stock on these things. That could mean someone might have to take the crumpled up clown suit sitting in a heap on the floor that everyone else has rejected, which you ET's would be only too happy to inflate for my use . . . kind of a "take it or leave it" situation. LOL

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Dear ST in BG again...

While i'am 75% of the time depressed in that world... do i have any chance to... be less depressed in other "world" or "density", or is that directly connected to the "nature" of the "energy" that "i'am" ? In other words, do i'am an "damned energy" one ?
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Greetings ST in BG.

Wow, did I light a fire under your glutinous maximus or what!

**No ... Not To Our Understanding !!

With all of those exclamations

**Of "Exclamations" To You ... Can Be ... Quite Different ... To Us !! ... Such For An Example ... A Pause ... A Double Pause/Stop !! ... Similar In A Way ... To Your Old Sending Of Wires ... By Telegraph !! ... Of This ... The Thought Was Stated ... Then STOP ... More Words ... STOP ... And Then ... One's First/Last Name !!

and did I see a censored curse word in there?

**If You Did ... It Was That ... Which You Placed !!

I wasn't trying to piss you off you know.

**Granted !!

The bottom line is that we humans do not have anything to go on but blind faith

**And That "Faith" (Religion) ... Is Truly Blind !! ... Of That ... There Is No Doubt !!

and the limited belief systems that have been around for us to guess at how things are.

**Very Very "Limited" ... "Belief Systems" ... Telling You ... How Things Are Not !!!

I might not be a religious fanatic like a lot of folks out there on Earth.

**It's Enough ... That You Feel You Need This ... "Religious Crutch" ... Of Control/Manipulation ... To Support You !!

I do have a Jewish background but I do accept many folks of diverse religions and cultures.

**Problem Is ... All Of Those "Religions & Cultures" ... Have One Little ... Very Little ... Very Tiny Piece To The Puzzle !! ... BUT ... They Have Chosen To "Believe" ... That Their ... One Very Very Tiny Piece ... Is How
Things Are !!

**Such As It Was ... Of The "Cave Sitters Of Tibet" ... In
The Himalaya Mountains !! ... Those Teachers ... Who Were ET's ... That Took On "Human Guise" ... Of Which Students Came To Them ... To Be Taught !! ... Of One Of The Conduit's Aspects ... Of The Life He Shared ... He Was One Such "Cave Sitter" ... The One Who Possessed The Knowledge ... Of Where "We" ... The Cave Sitters Came From !! ... We Were All Connected ... Each One Of Us To Each Other !! ... Then The Day Came ... That The Apprentice ... That Was To Take My Place ... When I Was Gone ... Betrayed A Sacred Trust ... Wanting All The Secrets !! ... And Encouraging Those Of Barbarian
Ways From Below ... To Invade Our Domains !! ... One By One ... Each Was Killed ... Murdered ... While The Others Felt Their Pain !! ... They Gave Up No Secrets ... To Those That Sought Only For Misuse !! ... I Was The Last To Die !!

**Of Our Death ... The Scant Remnants Of What Remained ... Of Our Lives There ... As Each Cave Was Ransacked & Cleaned Of Anything That Might Be Of Value ... Of This Scant Remnant ... This Became The Basis ... The Foundation ... For The First Dali Lama !! ... So While Of These Peoples ... They May Be .. Of A Peaceful People ... They Too Have Fallen To ... Taking Their Small Piece ... And Adding On To This !! ... Making Of This ... A Cult ... A Following ... Then A Culture Built From This Following ... Based On ... Non Understanding !! ... Which Every "Religious Belief System" Has Done !! ...

**So Of This ... We Have No Disturbance In Saying ...
Benign Or Not ... Well Meaning Or Not ... That They Have ... All Failed !! ... For To Build A Foundation Based On Lies ... Is To Create More Lies ... Heap More Lies On This ... Making Not Of An Understanding ... But Of
Non-Understanding !!

I have friends of all races, cultures, creeds and
gender. I don't judge others unless they judge me (falsely). I try to see the good in all people (not terrorists or evil individuals though).

**We Simply Look At Them All ... With Disbelief !! ... With Astonishment !! ... And Yes ... Of A Sense Of Being Appalled ... Taken Back ... In That These Beings ... Those Of Extraterrestrial Energies ... That Animate These Forms ... These Bodies ... Can Be So ... Termed "Spiritually Swindled" Like This ????

With that said, and knowing that I don't have all the answers to all the questions and do have faith that there is some type or form of creation/creator/higher power, please give me a little latitude here.

**Such Is ... Beyond The Comprehension There !!!

I am not arguing with you but just showing that there are examples of things that are truly wonderful and that from our perspective (human perspective), that there is a higher presence.

**Something ... That Cannot Be Comprehended ... Of Understandings There !!

You say there is no such thing as angels

**This Is Correct !! ... It Is A ... "Religious Creation" !!

but there are ET's looking out for us.

**Yes ... This Is True !!

Well then I would give that ET the honor of bestowing upon it the classification of Angel.

**Such Would Be ... Highly Insulting !!!!

That is a very honorable gesture on my part for what I experienced with what you said was ET intervention, I found to be such a positive that I would classify it as
divinicle.

**It Would Be ... Highly Dishonorable To Us !! ... To Place On ET's ... The Classification Of Angels ... Or As Divine !!!

I guess you could consider yourselves divine interventionists for looking out for humanity.

**NO !! ... We Are Extraterrestrial Beings ... Who Of Our Positions/Jobs ... Watch Over Things !! ... Help, Heal, Ect. !!

With that, I am very grateful for your help.

**Yes ... And We Accept This !!

Yes, the Angel that came to me was very kind.

**NO !!!

I must say though, she did not look human though. She looked more like an ET for she didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit up the room I might add).

**Wellll ... The Reason Was ... She WAS ... An ET !!!

So for you to say that this being was "window dressing" for me, she could have easily donned a religious angelic out fit and had a more human looking face.

**If She Desired ... She Could Have !!!

Oh, and most humans are not 8 feet tall by the way!

**Most Of That "Time" ... Do Not Have That Height !!

So you are saying she could have scared the sh**t out of me if she were to reveal her true colors?

**If She Appeared ... As She Normally Appears ... Possibilities Are High ... That This Might Occur !!

Well what do you think Praying Mantis man did when I was in the bathroom?

**The Mantian (Cassiopeian) ... Is Of Combined Sex !!! ... Though Can Take On ... Either Role ... Female Or Male !!

I am sure he had a good laugh at my expense

**Probably Did !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

and that dude was 15-20 feet tall with insect features and an additional "compound eye".

**But Of Course !! ... With A Delightful Sense Of Humor Too !!! ... Along With Being ... A Specialist !!

Yeah that was quite interesting. As a matter of fact, I would like to see you how you really are and what your true intentions are.

**Well ... You Would Have To ... Come Aboard Ship !! ... As To Our "True Intentions" ... We Have Stated These ... Many Many MANY Times Over !!!

I would like to believe that most of the ET's (a vast majority) are actually good and mean well to mankind .I really hope that is the case.

**They Are Neither ... Good ... Nor ... Bad !! ... They Are Simply As They Are !! ... Here It Is ... Of A Different Way/Thinking ... Then There !!

Anyway, I know we have breached the subject before, but I still holdfast to the belief of a "creator".

**There Were/Are ... Many "Creators/Creator Beings" !!!

That doesn't mean a man or ET on a throne with a long beard, staff in hand and a golden crown on the head.

**Well ... That Would Be ... Of Distortion !! ... Perhaps Combining Of Different Images/Imagery ... Such As That Of Odin/Woden ... And ... "Old Man Time" !!! ... Things Like This !! ... However ... If You Did See "Lord Anu" (Father To Enki/Ea) ... In His Regal Look/Appearance ... You Would Be Stunned !!!

**In A Vision Given ... Of A "Visit" ... Just Of "Pomp & Circumstance" ... Of Literally ... Rolling Out The Red/Real Gold Thread Carpet !! ... Of Seeing His Royal Court ... Of His Royal Guards ... And Watching As All Bowed, Genuflected/Kneeled ... In Recognition ... Of His Royal Presence !! ... Even The Pope & The Queen !!

**As To Lord Anu ... He Was Cloaked ... In A Long & Full Purple & White ... Trailing "Robe" ... With Spots ?? ... Ermine ?? ... He Was Wearing A Royal Gold Crown ... & Holding A Royal Golden Scepter !! ... Underneath The "Robe" ... He Appeared As A Tall & Powerful ... Dinoid Being ... Who Demanded & Expected Respect !!

My belief is in a "force" or a collective intelligent "force" that created all of us.

**That Would Be ... An Attempt To Describe ... The Infinite ... Of Infinity !! ... Of Such Things ... This Is Beyond The Grasp ... Of Ones There !! ... Besides ... There Was/Were/Are ... Many Such ... "Collective Intelligent "Forces" ... At Work !! ... Of Each Thing ... Having It's Role ... It's Position To Play ... In The Termed ... "Grand Scheme Of Things" !!

I don't prescribe to any belief system in that regard (regarding G-d).

**We Don't Either !!

Most belief systems have their own concept of that which is a creator.

**That Is Why They Call Them ... "Belief" Systems !!

But you say that there is no "creator". But who created you?

**We Created Ourselves !! ... Having Such Knowledge !!

Who created all life in the universe?

**Many Did !! ... Those Who Have Of These Positions/Roles ... Of The Learning & Knowledge !!

Who created the universe?

**See Previous Answer !!

That is what I am referring to in a "creator" or "creational force collective".

**Well Hate To Disappoint You !! ... But Rather Then "A Creator" ... There Were/Are ... Many Creators !!!

Not some kind of man or entity on a throne that so many
belief systems seem to point to.

**Yes Of Course !!

I just find it hard to believe that in the vastness of the multiverse and all of its infinite number of inhabitants and galaxies and such, that no such creator exists.

**Many Such "Creators" Exist !! ... Without Knowing Or Understanding ... You Create Too !!

Thank you, MJ-13.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Thanks ST for your (again!) honest answer below,

**You Are Most Welcome !!
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**Quoting: ST In BG ...

"**We Are Not ... A "Channel" As In "Channeling" !! ... This Infers That The Material That Is Being Related ... Is Coming Through ... The "Terrestrial Filters" ... Of Which It Is Not !! ... The Conduit (Referring To The Terrestrial Male That Has Volunteered ... & Has Been Altered For
These Communications (Of Which "Channelers" Have Not !!) ... Is Relating Of This Information Directly From Us !! ... So You Are Indeed ... Conversing Directly !! ... Though Of Course There Is A Slight Delay ... Due To Availability Of The Conduit(A Connection Between Here & There !!) ... On His End !!"
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IMO your honesty is obvious and this is *the main reason* I keep returning to this thread, even when sometimes I disagree or I'm not completely satisfied with your answers, to me or others.

**Well Given A Choice Between Honesty & Deception ... We Prefer ... The Honest Approach !! ... Though We Would Wish ... To Give Of All That We Know On Certain Things ... We Realize ... That Such Would Be Unwise ... & Would Cause Harm/Damage !! ... So We Choose Of Ourselves ... To Withhold ... Rather Then To Deceive !!

I believe that honesty is the mother of the Truth (oops, no pun intended!:-),

**Not Sure If ... That Was Her Name Or Not ?? ... Will Have To Ask !! ... Maybe A "Nickname" ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!

even when it leads us through uncertain pathways.

**OH Yes !!! ... Though The Pathways Are "Lit" ... Glowing Green Of Course !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Because honesty reflects our connection with the essence of
ourselves, which is always the best guide we have.

**Indeed So !!!

Farewell for Now!:-)

Farewell For Now !!

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Yes, the Angel that came to me was very kind.

**NO !!!

I must say though, she did not look human though. She looked more like an ET for she didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit up the room I might add).

**Wellll ... The Reason Was ... She WAS ... An ET !!!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi, ST in BG!

All I can say to your response is:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

It is a very rare occasion when I laugh out loud to myself, but you REALLY tickled my funny bone by having to explain that this "angel" who "didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit up the room I might add)" was an ET.

We have a terrestrial expression, "if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it is a duck."

Nuff said! But, I'm still laughing!

Thanks, ST in BG, for lightening my day!

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ST In BG,

if the genetic problem of jealousy and "GREED" is
still a factor for the old models why not fix the problem directly rather than indirectly by example how parents scold or teach children to be obedient.

**That Was An "Option" At The Beginning !! ... To Do So ... Would Require A Complete Genetic Remaking ...
(To Begin At The Beginning !!!) ... Of The Physical Bodies ... Which Has Been Done ... For The New Bodies/Forms ... You Will Move Into !!

""Wait a second!"" That is why you guys have those "VAST"
projects isn't it?

**We Have Many ... "Ongoing Projects" !!!

Your providing humans with interactive guardians and
teachers hidden within the mist of 4th density.

**Well ... You Might See ... Our Glowing White Gloves !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

You cool ET guys haven't quite given up on us ill fated humans totally yet have you?

**It Is Not ... The Moment Yet ... To "Give Up" As It Were !! ... As The Energies Within The Bodies ... Are Of Us !! ... Are Extraterrestrial !! ... So Of This ... We Are Addressing !!

What can I say but thank you..

**You Could Say ... "You Thank" ... But Somehow ... It Just Doesn't Sound The Same !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

if only other humans could see the value and importance in
this we really could close that problematic gap.

**Well ... Perhaps !! ... But There Is ... Many "Problematic Gaps" There ... To Close !! ... Oh Boy !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

I wish myself and others could be more responsive for this is hard to learn.

**Maybe ... Then Again ... Maybe Not ???

For what it's worth please be patient with us and keep up the good work!

**We Will Try !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

"Phazing ELE115"

Farewell For Now !!

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I believe that honesty is the mother of the Truth (oops, no pun intended!:-),

**Not Sure If ... That Was Her Name Or Not ?? ... Will Have To Ask !! ... Maybe A "Nickname" ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!


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Maybe a Nickname....Heehe!


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Hello, ST In BG!

WOW! This thread is 777 pages!

**Yes Indeed !! ... And It Calls To Mind ... Of The Magickal Workings Of Aleister Crowley ... And 777 !!!

Let's hope that means Nibiru will be on our doorstep within the next few days!!!

**With Nibiru ... With It's Many Options ... Many Things Are Indeed Possible !!!

I don't have a question with this post, but simply wanted to share a portion of an earlier post (above) that described some of the changes with the new 4th density bodies/shells. I'm sure many others have the same questions and lack of understanding that I do about these new "suits."

Of course, ST in BG, I can't help thinking about your often
repeated phrase, something like, "depending upon the availability of bodies" that makes it sound like you might run out of stock on these things.

**Well ... This Would Be Reference To ... Being Reassigned ... Of/From ... The Transit Station(s) !! ... Depending On Where You Went ... Were Assigned To ... There Would Have To Be ... Of That Form(s) ... Which Would Be
Available ... To Animate ... To Learn From ... Experience From !! ... Many Things & Factors Come Into Play Of This !! ... Depends On The Particular Lessons/Teaching Needed ... Of The Forms That Are Available !! ... The
Worlds/Places ... In Which These Lessons Are Presented ... The Particular Moments/Circumstances/Alignments ... Lots & Lots & Lots Of Things !!!! ... So It Is Not Just ... That There Would Be An Body To Animate ... To Occupy ... There Are Many Other Considerations As Well !!

That could mean someone might have to take the crumpled up clown suit sitting in a heap on the floor that everyone else has rejected, which you ET's would be only too happy to inflate for my use . . . kind of a "take it or leave it"
situation. LOL

**Well ... That We Keep In Reserve !! .... For You Never Know ... When One Needs To ... Clown Around !! .... Hee Hee Heee !!!
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**In Response ... From Conversation Of ... mj-13: User ID: 674333 & ST In BG: User ID: 634427

Quoting: mj-13 ...

"Yes, the Angel that came to me was very kind."

**Quoting: ST In BG ...

**NO !!!

**Quoting: mj-13 ...

I must say though, she did not look human though. She looked more like an ET for she didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit up the room I might add).

**Quoting: ST In BG

**Wellll ... The Reason Was ... She WAS ... An ET !!!


Hi, ST in BG!

All I can say to your response is: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

It is a very rare occasion when I laugh out loud to myself, but you REALLY tickled my funny bone by having to explain that this "angel" who "didn't have exact human features and she emanated a green glow (which lit
up the room I might add)" was an ET.

**Well ... It Was "Rather Obvious" To Us !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

We have a terrestrial expression, "if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it is a duck."

**In This Case ... The Expression Fits !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Nuff said! But, I'm still laughing!

**For Some Reason We Find It Difficult ... To Laugh & Be Still !! ... We Usually Move Around Somewhat !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Thanks, ST in BG, for lightening my day!

You Are Very Welcome !!

eye2sky

Farewell For Now !!

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**Quoting: angelpbj: User ID: 675813

"I believe that honesty is the mother of the Truth (oops, no pun intended!:-),"

Quoting: ST In BG 634427

"**Not Sure If ... That Was Her Name Or Not ?? ... Will Have To Ask !! ... Maybe A "Nickname" ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!"

Maybe a Nickname....Heehe!

**Haaa Haaa Haaa !! ... Heee Hee Heee !!!

Truth2

Farewell For Now !!

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ST in BG, thanks for your attention and farewell for who knows... perhaps... for ever... ?

Please try not to comment excessively (or not comment)on the second part of my probably last message to the board... which comes after this post/greeting.... it is another view of things, perhaps quite close to reality, of which i am sure few here seems to had even thought... so i share.

Best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares / A curious human being

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Hi, everyone there:
+ Still want to comment on some things, for those thinkers that might be interested:

So there is a hoax (or a coverup campaign?)… regarding Mars approach to Earth when it is not to be close, and quite much of what It normally approach… curious,

[link to www.google.com.mx]

For instance:
[link to affiliate.kickapps.com]

And some calling it a hoax:
[link to wiki.answers.com]

[link to www.hoax-slayer.com]

NASA doesn´t follow up on this hoax, of course… or at least not publicly… it would be too ridiculous… but some people already believe it as mail chains are sent without explanations, thorough ones…
[link to sse.jpl.nasa.gov]

But… for explanations if anything large becames visible sooner or later… probably the novas, mininovas, magnetars and who knows what more creative ones… surely could and would be given to the public… probably wisely so or wisely “intendedly” so… until the last minute and just if it became necessary and possible… perhaps, luckily enough… this last minute would not arrive… and then in later years or decades, through time… the truths will be learnt/taught to the public… perhaps…. Just perhaps.


I want to add one more comment regarding the ”compromised” situation of (mainstream) science regarding some great truths and most noticeably those that concern the true nature of the geological and climatological phenomena and it’s the strong relationships with planetary and stellar phenomena/forces (including, very probably what relates with N)* :
*(This is obviously for my fellow humans and not you of course, ST… for your “notice”)

First, please NOTICE the following FACTS:

1) Information, whereas probably sometimes limited or edited, had been and is currently available to the general audience concerning most issues involved. You can actually look at the seismograms, download papers, get views from real time sensors and webcams on some very active volcanoes, download databases and explore them, view and download interpretations (as given) concerning all the information available and decide for yourselves if this interpretation is comprehensive (sometimes, actually quite often when the issue is specialized and unrelated… often not so much when it gets “wholistic”, as expectable)… etc etc etc…. Then please NOTICE that information, real and true information IS BEING put at the hands of the general audience.

2) As it is very evident that some of the issues regarding the above are quite “delicate”, quite incompletely understood, quite mysterious still and quite sensitive for the public… it should be expected that the complete truth/explanations advanced are kept on debunkable media like this, while the official versions are much more limited, partial, sure and “tranquilizing”/”soft” to the public. After all even the precise scenarios could not be determined with enough precision (or perhaps they could and they had been?)… anyway… what would you tell everyone and for what sake? There are other ways, which take into account human psychology and the patterns of economical and social movement. Ways to allow for information to slowly permeate and to avoid undesired and probably unwise/unnecessary/mishappening damages from potential public reactions. Then NOTICE that (what many call TPTB) governments (and/or those who govern, who direct, who are responsible)… are doing exactly such things. They are giving you sites like this, they had allowed authors to write science fiction and not so much science fiction about many “delicate” problems… they had even allowed associations and “projects” that allegedly follow up on much more truly wholistic comprehensions. THEY ARE TELLING YOU! It is unfair/unwise/meaningless to expect an official “confession”… as for the unnecessary results, which must be avoided.

3) Its most evident, confusion and disinformation is used… all of them from the slightest to the hardest… when it gets necessary in order to avoid harsh socioeconomic reactions. This not only should be expected, but it is not unwise, but sometimes necessary. There are things that can be done and things that cannot be done, allowed things and not allowed things… for the best not just of those who govern but FOR MANKIND AND THE WORLD. Then NOTICE how unfair it is to think otherwise… what would you do in their place?!

4) It might be that some or perhaps even many of the resources are indeed used in some selfish/particular isolated efforts for prevention and preparation, some of them might be nevertheless quite justifiable… wouldn´t you… if able to think rationally and a well intended human being that cares about mankind and the planet (and not just your finances or greedy small personal problems)… wouldn´t you expect your government, your scientists, your doctors, your fellows…. Those informed about a potential threat for our civilization… to take preparations? I wish a lot is indeed being made! At least some things are being made… it seems… and this include sharing the information in the ways they had decided and much more things… of some which I notice I mention for you below… Then NOTICE that not all is greedy/selfish based and that as we are all humans… as for our fallibility… it is likely that some efforts might had been partially distorted for such things… including playing with people´s economy. BUT that’s a partial and SMALL part of the story.

5) What had they done for the public regarding “preparations”? Well, perhaps much more than I or anyone could be aware with… but I do notice the following, please NOTICE: The improved highway and transport systems in many countries; the increase on security issues for preventing fallible fellows from certain groups and/or countries doing unwise/stupid things with science…. That would harm some or many of their fellow humans locally, regionally and/or globally (This might had a dark side, but if you realize the magnitude of some of our discoveries you would understand that we should change our ways… actually we probably should change a lot before being able to use some technologies either researched by us or given/(or perhaps taken unwisely in the past) from others; although globalization had brought many pervasive/bad things (much of them a result of human greed and an incomplete/unfair economic paradigm that is to be updated… if we really want to exist, to get really sustainable)… it also had made people interact with their fellows from other countries, religions and cultures (whatever their history and particular motives/manipulations might had been), decreasing hate, decreasing intolerance… increasing love, increasing tolerance, interaction… making people understand and concentrate in their resemblances instead of their “tiny” differences, making them work for a better world… and for taking care for their non human fellows, for the ecosystem services, for the whole planet (although still with small success, perhaps, in many areas); NOTICE that as a part of this “globalization” a lot of infrastructure had been raised which includes large distribution centers and markets, that distribute mostly pathogen free food for a significant (but still insufficient) portion of the world´s human population and their artificial ecosystem. In the last years I had seen hundreds of large malls and storage facilities being build in some countries I had been, even after the economic breakdown was unleashed (probably) these facilities had been continued… even in some poor areas where the stores remain partially empty. I see they are building. Don´t you NOTICE? What much more can they do? Build a bunker for each human being?! What is being done is creating facilities and advancing the production system to give it resilience against some of the problems. What is being done is promoting a culture of optimal use of resources, making the civilization to reduce its dramatic spillage of energy and giving green light for (finally!) an alternative to the petroleum corporate to grew and replace the aberrant/monstrous system we still have. This is extremely difficult to do, the resilience of the socioeconomic paradigm to change from human induced sources / intended and planned rational ones… is proving hard to face… but it is clearly being tried.

6) Seed vaults are being built perhaps (probably) just for worst case scenarios, but as expectable… the public should not be overinformed about such things for many reasons, among which one could think on such informations might create unnecessary concerns.

7) Improved seism-resistant engineer is being used and implemented in more and more sites. Construction baselines are being tightened. However, you cannot displace economies/populations from known dangerous places for the uncertain possibility of an overwhelming (coming) damage that might not come… actually you cannot do that even if you were quite certain about the challenge, because doing even a tiny fraction of that would pose incommensurable problems to that economy/population and many others as well. It simply could not be done. Actually we are overexploiting too much resources from Earth / Terra … we cannot grow and grow and grow, we cannot be more and more and more… we SHOULD FINF OUT RATIONAL WAYS OF SHARING THE PLANET and face what we might had to face as well as we can do that, whatever transpires.

Much more could be said, but without going much forward I will summarize:

I wish this words encourage you to think farther away of your often obsessed “conspiracy” thinking… and understanding that some might exaggerate on their sharings and/or manipulations. A much better world might be possible and at least many things seems to had been done or are being done right now. Mankind should join forces toward its improvement as it face potential challenges that might transpire (or had already transpired, such as climate change i.e.) related with… you know, or at least some might had a better idea.

Best hopes for a better world, look for the positive part of mankind! ; ) Take care ; )
A Scientist who Cares
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I want to add one more comment regarding the ”compromised” situation of (mainstream) science regarding some great truths and most noticeably those that concern the true nature of the geological and climatological phenomena and it’s the strong relationships with planetary and stellar phenomena/forces (including, very probably what relates with N)* :
*(This is obviously for my fellow humans and not you of course, ST… for your “notice”, please do no overcomment!)

First, please NOTICE the following FACTS:

1) Information, whereas probably sometimes limited or edited, had been and is currently available to the general audience concerning most issues involved. You can actually look at the seismograms, download papers, get views from real time sensors and webcams on some very active volcanoes, download databases and explore them, view and download interpretations (as given) concerning all the information available and decide for yourselves if this interpretation is comprehensive (sometimes, actually quite often when the issue is specialized and unrelated… often not so much when it gets “wholistic”, as expectable)… etc etc etc…. Then please NOTICE that information, real and true information IS BEING put at the hands of the general audience.

2) As it is very evident that some of the issues regarding the above are quite “delicate”, quite incompletely understood, quite mysterious still and quite sensitive for the public… it should be expected that the complete truth/explanations advanced are kept on debunkable media like this, while the official versions are much more limited, partial, sure and “tranquilizing”/”soft” to the public. After all even the precise scenarios could not be determined with enough precision (or perhaps they could and they had been?)… anyway… what would you tell everyone and for what sake? There are other ways, which take into account human psychology and the patterns of economical and social movement. Ways to allow for information to slowly permeate and to avoid undesired and probably unwise/unnecessary/mishappening damages from potential public reactions. Then NOTICE that (what many call TPTB) governments (and/or those who govern, who direct, who are responsible)… are doing exactly such things. They are giving you sites like this, they had allowed authors to write science fiction and not so much science fiction about many “delicate” problems… they had even allowed associations and “projects” that allegedly follow up on much more truly wholistic comprehensions. THEY ARE TELLING YOU! It is unfair/unwise/meaningless to expect an official “confession”… as for the unnecessary results, which must be avoided.

3) Its most evident, confusion and disinformation is used… all of them from the slightest to the hardest… when it gets necessary in order to avoid harsh socioeconomic reactions. This not only should be expected, but it is not unwise, but sometimes necessary. There are things that can be done and things that cannot be done, allowed things and not allowed things… for the best not just of those who govern but FOR MANKIND AND THE WORLD. Then NOTICE how unfair it is to think otherwise… what would you do in their place?!

4) It might be that some or perhaps even many of the resources are indeed used in some selfish/particular isolated efforts for prevention and preparation, some of them might be nevertheless quite justifiable… wouldn´t you… if able to think rationally and a well intended human being that cares about mankind and the planet (and not just your finances or greedy small personal problems)… wouldn´t you expect your government, your scientists, your doctors, your fellows…. Those informed about a potential threat for our civilization… to take preparations? I wish a lot is indeed being made! At least some things are being made… it seems… and this include sharing the information in the ways they had decided and much more things… of some which I notice I mention for you below… Then NOTICE that not all is greedy/selfish based and that as we are all humans… as for our fallibility… it is likely that some efforts might had been partially distorted for such things… including playing with people´s economy. BUT that’s a partial and SMALL part of the story.

5) What had they done for the public regarding “preparations”? Well, perhaps much more than I or anyone could be aware with… but I do notice the following, please NOTICE: The improved highway and transport systems in many countries; the increase on security issues for preventing fallible fellows from certain groups and/or countries doing unwise/stupid things with science…. That would harm some or many of their fellow humans locally, regionally and/or globally (This might had a dark side, but if you realize the magnitude of some of our discoveries you would understand that we should change our ways… actually we probably should change a lot before being able to use some technologies either researched by us or given/(or perhaps taken unwisely in the past) from others; although globalization had brought many pervasive/bad things (much of them a result of human greed and an incomplete/unfair economic paradigm that is to be updated… if we really want to exist, to get really sustainable)… it also had made people interact with their fellows from other countries, religions and cultures (whatever their history and particular motives/manipulations might had been), decreasing hate, decreasing intolerance… increasing love, increasing tolerance, interaction… making people understand and concentrate in their resemblances instead of their “tiny” differences, making them work for a better world… and for taking care for their non human fellows, for the ecosystem services, for the whole planet (although still with small success, perhaps, in many areas); NOTICE that as a part of this “globalization” a lot of infrastructure had been raised which includes large distribution centers and markets, that distribute mostly pathogen free food for a significant (but still insufficient) portion of the world´s human population and their artificial ecosystem. In the last years I had seen hundreds of large malls and storage facilities being build in some countries I had been, even after the economic breakdown was unleashed (probably) these facilities had been continued… even in some poor areas where the stores remain partially empty. I see they are building. Don´t you NOTICE? What much more can they do? Build a bunker for each human being?! What is being done is creating facilities and advancing the production system to give it resilience against some of the problems. What is being done is promoting a culture of optimal use of resources, making the civilization to reduce its dramatic spillage of energy and giving green light for (finally!) an alternative to the petroleum corporate to grew and replace the aberrant/monstrous system we still have. This is extremely difficult to do, the resilience of the socioeconomic paradigm to change from human induced sources / intended and planned rational ones… is proving hard to face… but it is clearly being tried.

6) Seed vaults are being built perhaps (probably) just for worst case scenarios, but as expectable… the public should not be overinformed about such things for many reasons, among which one could think on such informations might create unnecessary concerns.

7) Improved seism-resistant engineer is being used and implemented in more and more sites. Construction baselines are being tightened. However, you cannot displace economies/populations from known dangerous places for the uncertain possibility of an overwhelming (coming) damage that might not come… actually you cannot do that even if you were quite certain about the challenge, because doing even a tiny fraction of that would pose incommensurable problems to that economy/population and many others as well. It simply could not be done. Actually we are overexploiting too much resources from Earth / Terra … we cannot grow and grow and grow, we cannot be more and more and more… we SHOULD FINF OUT RATIONAL WAYS OF SHARING THE PLANET and face what we might had to face as well as we can do that, whatever transpires.

Much more could be said, but without going much forward I will summarize:

I wish this words encourage you to think farther away of your often obsessed “conspiracy” thinking… and understanding that some might exaggerate on their sharings and/or manipulations. A much better world might be possible and at least many things seems to had been done or are being done right now. Mankind should join forces toward its improvement as it face potential challenges that might transpire (or had already transpired, such as climate change i.e.) related with… you know, or at least some might had a better idea.

Best hopes for a better world, look for the positive part of mankind! ; ) Take care ; )

A Scientist who Cares
 Quoting: S. who C. 677142



The economic breakdown/cryses, the financial and political "outbursts" and even the perhaps nasty flu might also serve to prepare people... to make them stock up without having to tell what is the challenge or what it might be... without having to explain what would be impossible (almost) given the present situations... DON´T YOU SEE that´s a quite plaussible comprehension?! Take care ; )

And with that i leave you. Good luck, be positive ; )
Prepare for if whatever might transpire, do the best you can with the best we have, for building a bright future!

Best hopes for a better world ; )
A Scientist who Cares

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The best you can with the best we have.
WE, MANKIND, should try. WE... not the individuals...
we are all together facing the challenges, the outcome depend in part on what we do and on how we react...
even how we would manage through the natural part of the
challenges, but specially on those we pose to...

ourselves.

Who speaks for Earth? We are not speaking very good, but this might change... perhaps we might had the opportunity to change this? Perhaps the opportunity is even now? Perhaps we indeed could learn to be keepers instead of threats for this marvelous world?

S. who C.


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Hello, ST in BG!

This post is in response to the last several posts by:
"A Scientist who Cares / A curious human being"
(who can't seem to stop posting, despite threatening to)

If you truly are a legitimate scientist (don't think we've seen any proof of this), it seems that you are more accurately described as:
"A Scientist in Complete denial / A closed-minded human being"

You obviously don't "get" anything and are still clueless after all of the wonderful education ST in BG has so tirelessly and generously shared for our enlightenment over the last few years.

Perhaps you can find another thread where you can save the World with your endless and pointless rhetoric that appears as walls and walls of text. Funny how you have the audacity to request that ST in BG refrain from commenting on your final (promises! promises!) message. Are you afraid he will tear it to shreds and expose it for what it is . . . pure and simple disinformation and diversion?

In closing, there is nothing we can do about Nibiru's passage to cleanse Terra/Earth. This has been explained to us over and over by ST in BG. Hopefully it will arrive very soon so that all of us can stop worrying.

eye2sky

Last Edited by eye2sky on 05/12/2009 11:08 AM
"One cannot search for the truth with a closed mind!"

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