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Greetings: Black Pope Ezar The 1st
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HELLo ST! I do not mean to nag you about my last question.

**No You Werenエt !! ... Thatエs Ok !!

Do you all mean you are not allowed or just have no clue what I was talking about?

**Well Perhaps Some Of Both !! ... As Quite Often My Terrestrial Self Might Not Know ... But My ET Self/Selves Do Know !! ... Except That They Are Not Allowed To Say ... Or Remain Silent & Do Not Comment !! ... So At This "Time" I Have No Information On This !!

Does Enki have a favorite animal say a peacock?

**As To "Favorite Animals" None That I Am Aware Of !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... To Borrow A Terrestrial Expression ... "He Is Like "God" ... He Likes Them All !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

**Although He Does Have A Symbology ... And That Is Of The Caduceus ... The Intertwining Snakes Used By The "American Medical Association" (A.M.A.) ... This Is A "Rendition" Of DNA (Genetic Code) & Worn Only By Those Who Are Advanced In Genetics/Genetic Engineering !! ... ("A Master Geneticist") ... *It Is Also The Symbol For "Sickbay" Aboard Ship !!

I have very detailed info on the questions I asked but I just wanted to read your take on it.

**Yes Of Course !!

It´s all VERY intresting! Never hear anything about that group of people in Iraq! All you hear about is the usual suspects of Islam and Kurds.

Kurds are real intresting. The Islam lovers hate them because they belive in ´god´ and the ´Devil´ in a positive way! In other words they think they are also ´Devil´ worshipers!

**Hmmm ???

Was the oil on E.A.rth deposited here by E.T.´s as a fuel source?

**Well It Is Produced In A Number Of Ways !! ... Naturally As A Lubrication By The Planet Itself !! ... That Is Why It Should Not Be Removed ... Except On The Surface !! ... And Produced "Chemically" During The Passage Of Nibiru !! ... **Indeed This Was Used For A Number Of Things By ETエs Who Have Come Here !! ... Amongst Those Fuel !!

May you and your tribe have a great terrstrial day!

**May You & Yours Do The Same My Friend !!

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Hello ST in BG,

I have a small addition to the previous post, which might expand it a little:

"Kurds are real intresting. The Islam lovers hate them because they belive in ´god´ and the ´Devil´ in a positive way! In other words they think they are also ´Devil´ worshipers!"

There are a number of ancient religious groups in Iraq that are neither Christian nor Muslim but use ideas drawn from older sources. The Kurdish group referred to are probably the Yezidis, who have existed for at least 2000 years and probably longer.

The other especially interesting group is the Mandaeans, the only surviving ancient Gnostic sect. They live on the borders of Iraq and Iran and hold that John the Baptist, not Jesus, was the Messiah. But they also believe their religion descends directly from Adam. See the Wikipedia section below for more.

Hope this is of interest!

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From the Wikipedia entry "Yazidi":
The Yazidi worship Malak Ta置s, apparently a pre-Islamic peacock angel who has fallen into disgrace. Malak Ta置s has links to Mithraism and, through it, to Zoroastrianism. The Yazidi maintain a well-preserved culture, rich in traditions and customs.

The Yazidi痴 own name for themselves is Dasin. While popular etymology connects the religion to the Umayyad khalif Yazid I (680-683), the name Yazidi is perhaps most likely derived from the Pahlavi (Middle Persian) word "yazd," meaning angel, probably in reference to Malak Ta置s.

Yazidi faith contains elements of Zoroastrianism, Manicheism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Gnostic and local pre-Islamic beliefs. It might have originally been based on the original religion of the Kurds. In about 1162, Sheikh Adii Ibn Mustafa radically reformed the religion, so that some believe the previous form was a different religion from current belief. Different clans may also have different interpretations.

Yazidi believe in God, the creator, but his role stops there. The active forces in their religion are Malak Ta置s and Sheik Adii.

According to the Yazidi, Malak Ta置s is a fallen peacock angel who repented and recreated the world that had been broken. He filled seven jars with his tears and used them to quench the fire in Hell. Yazidism also includes minor deities and some clans venerate Sheikh Adii as a saint, subservient to Malak Ta置s. There are also 6 other minor deities that are honored.

The Yazidi holy books are the Book of Revelation and the Black Book. The latter forbids eating of lettuce or butter beans and wearing of dark blue. The historical status of the book is questionable.

Yazidi are exclusive and do not reveal most of their secrets to the uninitiated. The twice-daily prayer services must not be performed in the presence of outsiders, and are always performed in the direction of the sun. Wednesday is the holy day but Saturday is the day of rest. There is also a three-day fast in December.

The most important ritual is the annual six-day pilgrimage to the tomb of Sheikh Adii in Lalish, north of Mosul, Iraq. During the celebration, Yazidi bathe in the river, wash figures of Malak Ta置s and light hundreds of lamps in the tombs of Sheikh Adii and other saints. They also sacrifice an ox, which is one reason they have been connected to Mithraism.

Yazidi society is hierarchical, with a prince (emir) as its secular leader and a chief sheikh as its religious leader.

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From the Wikipedia: "Mandaeanism:
Mandaeanism is a religion which has been classified by scholars as Gnostic.

Since the 1st century AD the Mandaeans (Mandai) have mainly lived in the borderland areas of Iraq and Iran. Many have fled the region since the 1990s due to the unstable political climate and have immigrated worldwide. There is no official census of the Mandaeans; conservative guesses at current population size have been made in the range of 50,000 to 70,000.

In reference to their connection to the Qurエan as the Sabians, Mandaeans are called Subi by their Muslim neighbors. The Mandaeans have also been called the "Christians of St. John" (a misnomer, since they are not Christians) based on a comment made by Portuguese monks in the 16th century. The Mandaeans may also be the same "Nasoraeans" indicated in the works of Epiphanius. The Mandaeans have remained separate and intensely private謡hat has been reported of them has mostly come from outsiders.

The Mandaeans are labeled as gnostics due to the Mandaic word manda, which can be translated as knowledge, the same word as "gnosis" in Greek. Thus Mandaeanism can be seen as a "Gnostic" religion. It is the only remaining Gnostic religion excluding revivals like the Manichaean Orthodox Church [1] still in practice.

Part of the Mandaean ritual dress, called a rasta, includes a white turban symbolizing the great mystery of radiance, light and glory.

Mandaean beliefs

The Mandaean religion has a more strict dualistic nature than most Gnosticism. Instead of a large pleroma, for the Mandaeans there exists a clearer division between light and darkness. The ruler of darkness is called Ptahil (similar to the Gnostic Demiurge), and the originator of the light (i.e. God) is only known as "the great first Life from the worlds of light, the sublime one that stands above all works". When this being emanated, other spiritual beings became increasingly corrupted, and they and their ruler Ptahil created our world.

Mandaeans believe that Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad were false prophets; instead they acknowledge John the Baptist, whom they see as one of their greatest teachers. There is some confusion that the Mandaeans came after John the Baptist, while in fact they existed before him; according to Mandaean dogma, Mandaeanism was the original religion of Adam. In the Mandaean library of scriptures there is a book of John called Sidra d Yahia, which includes a dialogue between John and Jesus. They also have a hierarchical clergy, practice frequent baptism, and hold public worship on Sundays. They deplore fasting and monasticism, and believe in peace above all.

There are many Mandaean scriptures, the most important being the Ginza Rba, a collection of history, theology, and prayers. On the Internet, the Ginza Rba is often confused with the Qolusta, which was translated by E.S. Drower in her book titled "The Canonical Prayerbook of the Mandaeans." The language used is called Mandaic, a language closely related to Aramaic.
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Quote1: "**No ... Noone You Should Know !! ... Well The Zeta´s You Know !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... But Doubtful You Know Of The Kindly Warrior Personality ... And The Female Who He Spoke Through ... In Which He Passed The Zeta Information Along To Me !!"

Hm, I don´t have a sexual relationship to that woman (Bill C.). Or should I? Hm, it can´t be Julia, ´cause she talks 98% in a "conversation" with me and the 2% belongs to my "yes", "no", "aha"... <:-)

**Well Perhaps What We Should Have Said Is ... Noone You Want To Know !! ... As Later On It Was She & A Former Gentleman Friend That Betrayed Our Friendships ... Both Worked Together To "Lure Me In" ... In Order To Theft Many Things From Me ... Through The Motivations Of Power, Control, Jealousy, Hatred, Greed/Envy !! ... **It Was Also The Intent To Try & Break My ET Connections !! ... Of Which They Were Not Successful !! ... Turns Out (Of Which I Highly Suspect !!) ... They Were Of "Orion Connections" !! ... Not "Good" !! ... So This Was A "Psychic Shocking" & Turnpoint In My Life !!

**I Told My ET Friends The Situation (Of Which They Already Knew !!) ... And Later That Year They Surprised Me With A Visit/Stopover... At My Former Place Of Employment !!

**To Start The Story From The Beginning ... It Was In The Fall Of One Year(October/November)... When I Was With A Female/Male Guide !! ... We Journeyed To Some Places To Do Some Investigations/Psychic Researching !! ... It Was During This Time At One Place Where I Desired To Have A "Sacred Name" To Be Called !! ... Nothing Came To Me !! ... So I Pretty Much Called Out To The Sky ... WHAT ??? ... No Response !!

**Months Passed !! ... & The Woman (Who Had Her Male Guide Speak Through Her & Relate Infomation To Me !!) ... & A Closeby Male Friend ... Stayed In Touch With One Another !! ... He Was Also Very "Gifted" !! ...(As We Did Some "Psychic Exploration" At His Home !! ... Where My Mischevious Guides Came Through !! ... In Wonderful Comedy !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... Those Were The Nicer & I Would Say Very Fun Times !! ... Unfortunately This Didnエt Last !!)

**Everything Remained Stable & Of A Friendly Basis !! ... Until The Following March (Spring) !! ... When My "Male Friend" & I Were In Communication !! (I Think I Called Him !! ... As I Was Going To Go Over To His Place Later That Afternoon !!) !! ... When I Talked To Him He Told Me There Was "Some Kind Of Emergency" ?? ... And To Come Right Over !! ... Of Which I Did !! ... This Was In The Afternoon/Early Evening !!

**Previously I Had Brought Over Much Of "My Possessions" For Him To "Investigate" !! ... To Which I Found When I Arrived At His Place ... Some Of My Things Against The Wall ...He Indicated ... "There Are Your Things" !! ... To Which I Inquired: "Where Are The Rest ... Where Is Everything Else" ?? ... He Responded
Back ... "There Are Your Things" !!

**There Was Something Really Wrong With Him !! ... As I Had Never Seen Him In A "Foggy/Trancelike State" !! ... And His Eyes Were "Glazed" !! ... Very Strange !!! ... Now I Had Never Physically Seen A Person On Drugs !! ... But This Was The Look He Had !! ... Like He Was "On Something" ?? ... Or Hypnotized ?? ... Possessed ?? ... Crazed ?? ... A Real Spacey But Wild Look !! ... Very Unsettling !!!

**Not Knowing What Was Happening With Him ... I Didnエt Want To Argue/Belabor The Point Of Where My Other "Possessions" Disappeared To !! ... ... As On His Couch Was A Long "Samauri Type Sword" !!

**He Had Once Told Me (Jokingly ??) ... That One Could Kill A Person In Their Own Home & Then Claim "Self Defense" !! ... Right Then & There I Felt I Should Get The Hell Out Of There !! (Of Which My Guides Made Sure Of This !!!) ... So I Kept My Cool ... So As Not To Change The Current Situation !!

**It Was A Short Time Later ... That The Woman Friend ... Came Out From Hiding !! ... Supposedly ?? With Her Male Guides Voice Speaking ?? ... (Which She Could Have Just Did This For The "Effect" Too ??) ... She Proceeded To Belittle Me & Run Me Down ... Then Afterword Was Telling Me To Take My Things & Leave !!

**Note: To This Day I Think My "Former Male Friend" Was Controlled/Hypnotized By Her !! ... I Just Have That Impression !! ... As I Had The Strong "Impression" When I Was There That Day ... That "She" Was In Charge !! ... & He Would Do What She Wanted/Asked !! ... Again Just From That Very Very "Unsettling Look" In His Eyes !! ... *Now Iエm Not Letting My "Former Friend Off The Hook" As Far As Responsibilty In This Affair ... But There Was More To This !!

**She Wanted Me Out NOW !! ... I Told Both Of Them That ... I Couldnエt Take Everything At Once ... In One Load !! ... So They Reluctantly (With Him Driving) ... Took Me Back To My Apartment Across The Way !! ... With Me Riding In The Back Of His Pickup Truck ... With Those Of My Possessions That They "Released" To Me !! ... Then After Allowing Me To Get Out & Take My Things Out !! ... They Took Off !!

**It Is Evening ... I Found Checking Over The Things That I Brought Back (Other Then My Rock Specimens !! ... Of Which I Think I Had Over 70 ?? ... Who Knows What Happened To Them ??) ... That A Stack (I Would Say Maybe 1 1/2 Inches To 2 Inches) Was Gone !! ... And Of The Many Tapes (Over 67 Audio Cassettes) The Magnetic Medium Was Removed !! ... And Only The Shells/Cartrige Covers ... Were Put Back In The Wooden Storage Box !! ... There Were "Other Things" Taken Or Destroyed As Well !! ...

**I Just Was So Stunned In A "Psychic Shock" As It Were ... Just Numb All Over !! ... Then It Was If I Was Outside & Watching Myself ... As I Took Anything & Everything That Had To Do With Him & Her Out Of My "Psychic Notebooks" ... Ripped It Up & Threw It In The Trash !! ... There Were No Feelings/Emotions Involved !! ... As I Felt ... This Is It ... It Is All Said/Done & Over With !!

**The Months Went By ... I Petty Much Closed The Book On That Part Of My Life !! ... I Just Didnエt Want/Or Care To Go Back To "Exploring & Reaching Out" !! ... I Felt At That Time ... Well They Got What They Wanted !! ... And As To Having That Sort Of Communications ... That We Had Established ... Supposedly ?? ... The Lines Were Cut !! ... At Least By The "Indirect Avenues" That Had Been Used !! ... As I Would Not Again Call Either The Woman Or Man My
**Friends !!

**Note: This Is Excluding The Male Warrior Personality (The Femaleエs Guide)... Of Which I Consider A Fast Friend !! ... Who Was Also Sorely Used By Her With Unkind Intent Toward Me !! ... He Had Visited Me & Apologized For The Role That He Played On That Day In March !! ... Of How He Too Was "Manipulated" !! ... *I Understood & Forgave Him For Anything That He Might Have Done !! ... I Also Thanked Him For Helping Out & Being Of Great Assistance In Passing Along The Messages & For Doing (Through Her) Many Drawings, Writings & Relaying On Paper Much Information !! .. *He Told Me That Ever I Need His "Warrior Assistance" To Please Call On Him !! ... To Him It Is "A Mission" !! ... For Myself It Is Great Assistance/Help & Friendship !!

**It Was Later ... In The Fall Of That Year That Things Changed !! ... In A Most Dramatic Way !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

** During The Early Morning Hours ... When I Was Cleaning Windows (At A Former Place Of Employment) I Was "Visited" !! ... It Was Very Unusual & So So Beautiful !!!

**During This "Time" We Were In "Direct Communication" !! ... I Was Told ... "Because You Are Unhappy With The "Name" You Were Given ... Here Is A "Name" That Fits You !! ... The Name (Actually A "Generic Title/Nickname") ... Refers To My Lifetime As An Interstellar Navigator Aboard A Zeta Reticulian "Bird" ... Space/Time Exploration Vessel !! ... The Following Year (Spring) ...In Honor Of This Great Gift That I Was Given ... I Had My Former "Personal Name" ... Changed To The Title I Now Have !!

**I Had The Impression During This "Visitation/Stopover" ... Of The Idea/Thought ... "Well If You Canエt Come To Us ... Weエll Come To You" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!


Quote2: "**Do You Mean When Suddenly Your Hearing Goes Out ... And You Hear A Cloudy Hum In Your Ear(s) ??"

The hearing goes out only for a short time, but "recovers".

**Yes That Is What Happens To Me Quite Often !!

Like if you press the "mute" button on the tv remote control, "normal hearing" mutes down abruptly - but you can hear the surrounding area (quietly) - and then both resources (humming + surrounding noise) are overlapping to the normal volume... after some seconds the humming mutes down constantly.

**That Is A Very Apt Description Of What I Am Describing !! ... Where Suddenly The "Hum" Begins & Blocks Out/Deadends The Outside Sounds !! ... It "Hums" For Maybe Less Then A Minute ... And Fades Out!! ... Whereupon Hearing Returns In That Ear !!

Maybe its not wax-cleaning, but defragmenting the brain. :-))

**Well ??? ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... But Seriously Though ... (From What I Was Told While I Was Typing In A Previous Posting !!) ... That This Is Not Only A "Wax Removal System" (To Clean This From Off/Around The Implant(s) ... But Also A "Test" Of The Emergency Broadcast System !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Greetings and have a nice day.

**May You Too My Friend !!

Farewell For Now !!

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When will this thread end?

**When The Thread Runs Out Of Course !! ... Or The Spool Unwinds !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

WILL you answer that one? With a real date AND Time. not some bs like.....(insert Bullshit here poop)

**Ok !! ... Itエs Inserted !! ... Now What Do I Win ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

**Keep Smiling !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

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Greetings ST In BG

**We Tried That !! ... Watching & Waiting For "The Fifth Element" To Hop Around Or Jump !! ... But We Got Tired Of Waiting ... And Went Over To Other Elements Instead !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Hmmm, What is the Fifth Element really?

**Well What Are Termed: "Elements" To Begin With ??

What if the Fifth element is here and is quietly doing what it has to do?

**Could Be ???

What if it is dealing with the ´spiritual aspect´ that which one might call the soul?

**Hmmm ???

What if The fifth element is Creation and is working right now together with its other half ´evolution´ as brother/sister ´twins´ just like Enki and Isis? HeeHee

**One Doesnエt Know ?? ... And Two Is Just Standing There Smiling !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Thanks

**Your Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Q1) how many dicks do you have,,,,?

**Well To Answer In The Fashion Of: "King Arthur) In Monty Python And The Holy Grail !! (When Responding To The "Troll" Bridgekeeper !!) ... "What Do You Mean ?? ... The Phallasエs We Have In Storage ?? ... Or The Many Beings Named: Dick Or Richard That We Visit ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Q2) Are alien chicks f@#kable?

**Well If They Are In The Mood !! ... It Is A "Timing" Sort Of Thing !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Q3)Are u a nerd?

**No I Am An Extraterrestrial !!

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Hi ST in BG,

Youエve referred to ancient Babylonian and Sumerian ideas quite a bit. It seems these cultures may have experienced and recorded an extraterrestrial presence on Earth and/or a cosmic cataclysm. Like the Egyptians, they seem to have actually interacted with their "gods" at some point in the remote past.

After I posted all that material about the Yazidi and the Mandaeans, I suddenly thought: where did the Babylonians go?

I mean, thereエs a big discontinuity between their ancient culture and the modern societies of Iraq, due to the success of Islamic empires based at Baghdad - a new city founded away from ancient Babylon. The same thing happened in Egypt, where Cairo was founded away from the old centres of Egyptian culture, like Alexandria.

Just as Christianity swept away the pagan religions of the Roman Empire, so Islam suppressed the pagan elements of the Middle East. In fact this pattern is repeated all over Europe and Asia: the Druids were suppressed by the Romans; the Christian mob burnt the Library at Alexandria; various Chinese emperors destroyed repositories of ancient knowledge; the Mongols swept away the ancient kingdoms of Central Asia; the Spanish went out of their way to wipe out South American civilisations...

Is this a deliberate human amnesia or was it motivated by something, or someone?

The old beliefs, containing links to the original Age of the Gods, were denounced and thrown away. Their followers were persecuted. But what if theyエd survived in the form of sects like the Yazidis and Mandaeans, or the European heretics like the Cathars. Or indeed, with the Templars, Masons and alchemists?

What Iエm saying is this: over the past 2000 years, the records of ancient human-alien contact have been carefully erased or dismissed. Only secret groups have kept these things alive until the present day. Now we have another explosion in contact events and the old myths are returning to haunt us.

Have any of the above-mentioned "secret societies" maintained some sort of contact with ETs?
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Truth2.

Thank you for the link! I wasnエt aware of this "news". Makes me wonder about the claim that "Admrl.T. Byrd" made about the North and the South poles being "entrances" into the hollow earth were these Advanced people supposedly live. The Vikinigs had folklore about these ufo-beings. I read that the Vikings were terrified of these people(beings).

Peace.
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Hi ST in BG,

One quick observation, re:

"**We Tried That !! ... Watching & Waiting For "The Fifth Element" To Hop Around Or Jump !! ... But We Got Tired Of Waiting ... And Went Over To Other Elements Instead !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Hmmm, What is the Fifth Element really?

**Well What Are Termed: "Elements" To Begin With ??

What if the Fifth element is here and is quietly doing what it has to do?

**Could Be ???"

In World War II, infiltrators into enemy societies were termed Fifth Columnists. Are you referring to something similar here?
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Thanks for the answers that aren´t answers re: free will.

**Sorry To Have Disappointed You !!

I could have predicted that one

**Then Why Didnエt You ???

THE OLD AGREEMENT MADE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN trip
YEAH
CHOSE THE PARENTS
etc.

**Well Thatエs How It Is !! ... With Very Few Exceptions !!

Heard that one before
so there is no violation of free will when people don´t recall having made these "agreements" .. .yeah right

**That Is Correct !! ... Or Would You Perfer That We Artifically Lift Their "Psychic Barriers" & Permit Them This Knowledge ?? ... While At The Same Time Making Them Insane ... From The Flood Of Data/Information/Emotions Of Other Lifetimes Of Experience !! ... Of Which Their Bodies Will Shut Down & Die !!

Kind of like the papers you sign for loans or the papers you sign to allow them to perform surgery. You don´t dare read them, because you´d NEVER SIGN OFF on something like that.

**This Has No Relationship Or Connection With Such Terrestrial Mundane Affairs !! ... What We Do Is For Great Reason & Our Declining To Lift Your "Barriers To Awareness" Is For Your Own Health & Well Being !! ... You Need To Understand That We Too Are Caught Between The Proverbial "Rock & A Hard Place" !! ... But The Agreements/Arrangements Stand Irregardless !! ... And We Will Continue To Perform Our Jobs/Duties ... To "Upgrade Life/Lifeforms" !! ... To Create New & Better Models/Shells/Bodies ... In Which The Inner "Energy Essences" May Experience The Various Teachings/Learnings Of Each Vibrational Plane/Stage/Octave !! ... And Of These Densities !!

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Greetings: Anonymous Coward
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how much is gas on your planet?

**We Do Not Those "Changed Substances" ... Polluting Elements To Travel !!

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Sorry, E.T. -- we have more than enough terrestrials. We donエt need any extras.
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Greetings: Truth2: User ID: 7741 & Watchingone: User ID: 14014

From: Truth2: User ID: 7741

"ST,

Do you know what the US is trying to "salvage" under 2 miles of ice in
the Antartic?

Thank you"

**You Are Very Welcome !!
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From: Watchingone: User ID: 14014

"Truth2.

"Do you know what the US is trying to "salvage" under 2 miles of ice
in the Antartic?"

Could you fill the rest of us in on what your talking about? Is this a somewhat "new" news or are you simply speaking of "The Hollow Earth", race of people based on Admiral T. Byrd´s explorations in the 40´s, etc.?

Peace."

**Peace To You As Well !!
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**As To What The U.S. Is Trying To "Salvage" We Cannot Say !! ... Other Then To State The "Obvious" !! ... That Their Explanation Is Bogus/False !!

**Information That Was Just Relayed To Me Is Saying ... Ultima Thule ... Excavation/Exporation ... The Civilization Of: Ultima Thule ?? ... How This Relates I Do Not Know ??

**Farewell For Now !!

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@Truth2: frozen mushrooms ;-)

**Hee Hee Hee !! ... Weエre There !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

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**As To What The U.S. Is Trying To "Salvage" We Cannot Say !! ... Other Then To State The "Obvious" !! ... That Their Explanation Is Bogus/False !!

**Information That Was Just Relayed To Me Is Saying ... Ultima Thule ... Excavation/Exporation ... The Civilization Of: Ultima Thule ?? ... How This Relates I Do Not Know ??

Although I assumed Ultima Thule was near the Arctic, I suppose thereエs no reason why it shouldnエt be somewhere in the Antarctic either!

Might explain that business about the Thule Society, eh?
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Hello ST in BG,

I have a small addition to the previous post, which might expand it a little:

"Kurds are real intresting. The Islam lovers hate them because they belive in ´god´ and the ´Devil´ in a positive way! In other words they think they are also ´Devil´ worshipers!"

There are a number of ancient religious groups in Iraq that are neither Christian nor Muslim but use ideas drawn from older sources. The Kurdish group referred to are probably the Yezidis, who have existed for at least 2000 years and probably longer.

The other especially interesting group is the Mandaeans, the only surviving ancient Gnostic sect. They live on the borders of Iraq and Iran and hold that John the Baptist, not Jesus, was the Messiah. But they also believe their religion descends directly from Adam. See the Wikipedia section below for more.

Hope this is of interest!

**Oh Yes Indeed !! ... Thank You Very Much !!

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From the Wikipedia entry "Yazidi":
The Yazidi worship Malak Ta置s, apparently a pre-Islamic peacock angel who has fallen into disgrace. Malak Ta置s has links to Mithraism and, through it, to Zoroastrianism. The Yazidi maintain a well-preserved culture, rich in traditions and customs.

The Yazidi痴 own name for themselves is Dasin. While popular etymology connects the religion to the Umayyad khalif Yazid I (680-683), the name Yazidi is perhaps most likely derived from the Pahlavi (Middle Persian) word "yazd," meaning angel, probably in reference to Malak Ta置s.

Yazidi faith contains elements of Zoroastrianism, Manicheism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Gnostic and local pre-Islamic beliefs. It might have originally been based on the original religion of the Kurds. In about 1162, Sheikh Adii Ibn Mustafa radically reformed the religion, so that some believe the previous form was a different religion from current belief. Different clans may also have different interpretations.

Yazidi believe in God, the creator, but his role stops there. The active forces in their religion are Malak Ta置s and Sheik Adii.

According to the Yazidi, Malak Ta置s is a fallen peacock angel who repented and recreated the world that had been broken. He filled seven jars with his tears and used them to quench the fire in Hell. Yazidism also includes minor deities and some clans venerate Sheikh Adii as a saint, subservient to Malak Ta置s. There are also 6 other minor deities that are honored.

The Yazidi holy books are the Book of Revelation and the Black Book. The latter forbids eating of lettuce or butter beans and wearing of dark blue. The historical status of the book is questionable.

Yazidi are exclusive and do not reveal most of their secrets to the uninitiated. The twice-daily prayer services must not be performed in the presence of outsiders, and are always performed in the direction of the sun. Wednesday is the holy day but Saturday is the day of rest. There is also a three-day fast in December.

The most important ritual is the annual six-day pilgrimage to the tomb of Sheikh Adii in Lalish, north of Mosul, Iraq. During the celebration, Yazidi bathe in the river, wash figures of Malak Ta置s and light hundreds of lamps in the tombs of Sheikh Adii and other saints. They also sacrifice an ox, which is one reason they have been connected to Mithraism.

Yazidi society is hierarchical, with a prince (emir) as its secular leader and a chief sheikh as its religious leader.

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From the Wikipedia: "Mandaeanism:
Mandaeanism is a religion which has been classified by scholars as Gnostic.

Since the 1st century AD the Mandaeans (Mandai) have mainly lived in the borderland areas of Iraq and Iran. Many have fled the region since the 1990s due to the unstable political climate and have immigrated worldwide. There is no official census of the Mandaeans; conservative guesses at current population size have been made in the range of 50,000 to 70,000.

In reference to their connection to the Qur´an as the Sabians, Mandaeans are called Subi by their Muslim neighbors. The Mandaeans have also been called the "Christians of St. John" (a misnomer, since they are not Christians) based on a comment made by Portuguese monks in the 16th century. The Mandaeans may also be the same "Nasoraeans" indicated in the works of Epiphanius. The Mandaeans have remained separate and intensely private謡hat has been reported of them has mostly come from outsiders.

The Mandaeans are labeled as gnostics due to the Mandaic word manda, which can be translated as knowledge, the same word as "gnosis" in Greek. Thus Mandaeanism can be seen as a "Gnostic" religion. It is the only remaining Gnostic religion excluding revivals like the Manichaean Orthodox Church [1] still in practice.

Part of the Mandaean ritual dress, called a rasta, includes a white turban symbolizing the great mystery of radiance, light and glory.

Mandaean beliefs

The Mandaean religion has a more strict dualistic nature than most Gnosticism. Instead of a large pleroma, for the Mandaeans there exists a clearer division between light and darkness. The ruler of darkness is called Ptahil (similar to the Gnostic Demiurge), and the originator of the light (i.e. God) is only known as "the great first Life from the worlds of light, the sublime one that stands above all works". When this being emanated, other spiritual beings became increasingly corrupted, and they and their ruler Ptahil created our world.

Mandaeans believe that Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad were false prophets; instead they acknowledge John the Baptist, whom they see as one of their greatest teachers. There is some confusion that the Mandaeans came after John the Baptist, while in fact they existed before him; according to Mandaean dogma, Mandaeanism was the original religion of Adam. In the Mandaean library of scriptures there is a book of John called Sidra d Yahia, which includes a dialogue between John and Jesus. They also have a hierarchical clergy, practice frequent baptism, and hold public worship on Sundays. They deplore fasting and monasticism, and believe in peace above all.

There are many Mandaean scriptures, the most important being the Ginza Rba, a collection of history, theology, and prayers. On the Internet, the Ginza Rba is often confused with the Qolusta, which was translated by E.S. Drower in her book titled "The Canonical Prayerbook of the Mandaeans." The language used is called Mandaic, a language closely related to Aramaic.

**Thank You For The Most Informative Post My Friend !!

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**Thank You For The Most Informative Post My Friend !!

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Much obliged ST in BG. Always thought my interests in the old myths would pay off some day!

Actually I realised that after reading _Hamletエs Mill_ (Von Dechend). Suggest Mike Bailieエs book _From Exodus to Arthur_ about comets destroying recent civilisations, e.g. 6th c. AD

Bye for now...
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Hi ST in BG,

You´ve referred to ancient Babylonian and Sumerian ideas quite a bit. It seems these cultures may have experienced and recorded an extraterrestrial presence on Earth and/or a cosmic cataclysm.

**Yes Indeed They Did Both !!

Like the Egyptians, they seem to have actually interacted with their "gods" at some point in the remote past.

**Yes This Was Done !!

After I posted all that material about the Yazidi and the Mandaeans, I suddenly thought: where did the Babylonians go?

I mean, there´s a big discontinuity between their ancient culture and the modern societies of Iraq, due to the success of Islamic empires based at Baghdad - a new city founded away from ancient Babylon. The same thing happened in Egypt, where Cairo was founded away from the old centres of Egyptian culture, like Alexandria.

**There Were A Number Of "Cultures" That Were Removed !! ... That Were Taken Elsewhere !! ... The Buildings Remained ... But The People Were "Transported" !!

Just as Christianity swept away the pagan religions of the Roman Empire, so Islam suppressed the pagan elements of the Middle East.

**Yes This Is SO !!

In fact this pattern is repeated all over Europe and Asia: the Druids were suppressed by the Romans; the Christian mob burnt the Library at Alexandria; various Chinese emperors destroyed repositories of ancient knowledge; the Mongols swept away the ancient kingdoms of Central Asia; the Spanish went out of their way to wipe out South American civilisations...

**We Regret To Say You Are Most Accurate !!

Is this a deliberate human amnesia or was it motivated by something, or someone?

**It Was A Deliberate Attempt By Beings Here ... To Rewrite "History" According To How They Wanted It Written !! ... By Destroying/Altering The Old Knowledge !!

The old beliefs, containing links to the original Age of the Gods, were denounced and thrown away. Their followers were persecuted.

**Yes They Were !!


But what if they´d survived in the form of sects like the Yazidis and Mandaeans, or the European heretics like the Cathars. Or indeed, with the Templars, Masons and alchemists?

**Yes Much Of The Ancient Works Are "Hidden Away" & Preserved By Termed: "Secret Societies" !! ... And One That Are Directly Out In The Open !! ... Of Which One Does Not Think Or Connect Them To ... One Of Their Many Roles Throughout The Ages !! ... That Of Being Archivists !!

What I´m saying is this: over the past 2000 years, the records of ancient human-alien contact have been carefully erased or dismissed.

**Yes Indeed !! ... For Power & Control Of The Peoples !!

Only secret groups have kept these things alive until the present day. Now we have another explosion in contact events and the old myths are returning to haunt us.

**These Things Have Been "Stored Away" Until It Is Time To Reveal The Truth !! ... Certain "Leaks Of Information" Have Been Carefully Released At Different Times ... To "Alter Agendas" & To Gage "Public Awareness" !! ... However The Time Will Soon Come Where All Will Be Revealed !!

Have any of the above-mentioned "secret societies" maintained some sort of contact with ETs?

**Yes Many Have !! ... One Might Say ... In Constant Contact/Communication !!

ST In BG
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Thanks for that interesting response, ST in BG.

**There Were A Number Of "Cultures" That Were Removed !! ... That Were Taken Elsewhere !! ... The Buildings Remained ... But The People Were "Transported" !!

Might this explain what happened to the Indus Valley civilisations, certain places in Central Asia and the Anasazi peoples in the American South-West?

I wondered whether certain civilisations reach a point where they transmigrate en masse to somewhere else - or does someone assist them when the time is right?

BTW, how do Tibet and Agharti figure in all of this? Would I be right in thinking thereエs been more continuity between ancient and modern cultures & religions in the East?

Sorry for this barrage of questions but I appreciate the input and the conversation. The Net is an odd medium at the best of times but this couldnエt happen any other way!
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Truth2.

Thank you for the link! I wasn´t aware of this "news". Makes me wonder about the claim that "Admrl.T. Byrd" made about the North and the South poles being "entrances" into the hollow earth were these Advanced people supposedly live. The Vikinigs had folklore about these ufo-beings. I read that the Vikings were terrified of these people(beings).

Peace.

**Yes Indeed !! ... Thank You Truth2 For The Link !!

**I Had Seen This Information On Another Site Earlier Today & Thought Hmmm ??? ... The
"Official Explanations" Are ... That They Are Salvaging A (31 Years) Lost N.A.S.A. Mars Module !! ... And Then Further Speculation ... Is That It Had A "Compact Nuclear Reactor Power Plant") ... "In Direct Violation Of The Tnternational Antarctic Treaty."

**The "Official Explanation" Coupled With The Subsequent Speculation ... Just Rang Bogus/False To Us !! ... & Of Course The "Official Explanation" Came From: "Never A Straight Answer" (N.A.S.A.) ... So Not Much To Be Expected There !!

Quote: "Makes me wonder about the claim that "Admrl.T. Byrd" made about the North and the South poles being "entrances" into the hollow earth were these Advanced people supposedly live."

**I Think & Believe This Claim To Be Absolutely True !! ... And Was Hushed Up/Covered Up Big Time !! ... *In My Own Personal Library I Have Quite A Number Of Books Telling Of This !! ... And Adventures Into The Inner "Hollow" Earth !!

**Quote: "The Vikinigs had folklore about these ufo-beings. I read that the Vikings were terrified of these people(beings).

**Indeed They Were !! ... And To Terrify A "Viking/Norseman" (Who In Their Time Did The Terrifying !!) ... That Right There Says Alot !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi ST in BG,

One quick observation, re:

"**We Tried That !! ... Watching & Waiting For "The Fifth Element" To Hop Around Or Jump !! ... But We Got Tired Of Waiting ... And Went Over To Other Elements Instead !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Hmmm, What is the Fifth Element really?

**Well What Are Termed: "Elements" To Begin With ??

What if the Fifth element is here and is quietly doing what it has to do?

**Could Be ???"

In World War II, infiltrators into enemy societies were termed Fifth Columnists. Are you referring to something similar here?

**Well No ... We Were Just Making A Reference/Thought To The Basic Termed: Elements That Surround You !! ... That Of Your Planet !! ... Those Energies & Life/Lifeforces That One Takes For Granted ... Without Realizing That They Too Are Living Things !!

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>In World War II, infiltrators into enemy societies were termed >Fifth Columnists. Are you referring to something similar here?

**Well No ... We Were Just Making A Reference/Thought To The Basic Termed: Elements That Surround You !! ... That Of Your Planet !! ... Those Energies & Life/Lifeforces That One Takes For Granted ... Without Realizing That They Too Are Living Things !!

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Ah, ok. Misunderstood your reference there! The Chinese had five elements, curiously enough.
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Greetings ST In BG

**One Doesn´t Know ?? ... And Two Is Just Standing There Smiling !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

And three sitエs to judge them all the way Heehee


Later.
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Greetings ST in BG,

thank you very much for the kind and deep going personal story, I didnエt expected such a long posting. :-)

Emergency Broadcast System? Well, if the bells ring in my head, I should pack my bags and run like hell, eh? Hehehe

Greetings + more greetings to your Zeta crew, canエt wait for chillout with you & them!
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ST,

You´re Welcome - glad to be of any assistance to you. Your comment on Ultima Thule was of interest to me and I looked some things up on the net.

For anyone who is interested here is one link that gives some interesting info:

[link to www.absoluteastronomy.com]


One excerpt:

"Some (Occult practices and techniques) Occult groups, most notably the German Thule Gesellschaft (ca. 1920) thought that it was the original source of the secret wisdom of the Aryan race."



Hmmmmmm - Interesting that the US is so interested in this.
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**As To What The U.S. Is Trying To "Salvage" We Cannot Say !! ... Other Then To State The "Obvious" !! ... That Their Explanation Is Bogus/False !!

**Information That Was Just Relayed To Me Is Saying ... Ultima Thule ... Excavation/Exporation ... The Civilization Of: Ultima Thule ?? ... How This Relates I Do Not Know ??

Although I assumed Ultima Thule was near the Arctic, I suppose there´s no reason why it shouldn´t be somewhere in the Antarctic either!

Might explain that business about the Thule Society, eh?

**Yes Indeed !! ... I Heard This Information In My Mind As I Was Typing !! ... Which May Very Well Connect/Tye The Termed: "Occult", Nazi Germany, Aztlan, Hollow Earth & The Anunnaki All Together !! ... This What I Also Understood In Bits & Fragments ... Of What I Was Hearing !!

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**Thank You For The Most Informative Post My Friend !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG**

Much obliged ST in BG. Always thought my interests in the old myths would pay off some day!

**You Are Very Welcome !! ... Indeed So !!

Actually I realised that after reading _Hamlet´s Mill_ (Von Dechend). Suggest Mike Bailie´s book _From Exodus to Arthur_ about comets destroying recent civilisations, e.g. 6th c. AD

**Hmmm !!! ... Thank You !!

Bye for now...

**Farewell For Now !!

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Thanks for that interesting response, ST in BG.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

**There Were A Number Of "Cultures" That Were Removed !! ... That Were Taken Elsewhere !! ... The Buildings Remained ... But The People Were "Transported" !!

Might this explain what happened to the Indus Valley civilisations, certain places in Central Asia and the Anasazi peoples in the American South-West?

**Yes Indeed !! ... You Might Say ... They Were "Taken For A Ride" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

I wondered whether certain civilisations reach a point where they transmigrate en masse to somewhere else - or does someone assist them when the time is right?

**When The "Time" Is Right ... They Are So Assisted !! ... However In Such A Way As Not To Cause Them To Be Frightened Or Overly Concerned !!

BTW, how do Tibet and Agharti figure in all of this?

**These Are Both Very Ancient Places ... One Might Ascribe Them To Be "Holy Places" Just Because They Are So Old ... And Their Practices Have Changed Very Little !!


Would I be right in thinking there´s been more continuity between ancient and modern cultures & religions in the East?

**Yes There Has Been More Continuance Of These Ancient & Modern Cultures ... Do Not Just To Their Isolation & Their Living Conditions/Environment ... But That They Have Had "Help" In Maintaining Their Customs & Ways By Seen & "Unseen Hands" !!

Sorry for this barrage of questions but I appreciate the input and the conversation.

**That Is Quite Alright !! ... Thank You !! ... And We Appreciate The Conversation Too !!

The Net is an odd medium at the best of times but this couldn´t happen any other way!

**Yes Of Course !! ... As Everything Is Arranged & Directed To Happen In Certain Ways !! ... As There Is Really No Coincidence !!

Farewell For Now !!

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>In World War II, infiltrators into enemy societies were termed >Fifth Columnists. Are you referring to something similar here?

**Well No ... We Were Just Making A Reference/Thought To The Basic Termed: Elements That Surround You !! ... That Of Your Planet !! ... Those Energies & Life/Lifeforces That One Takes For Granted ... Without Realizing That They Too Are Living Things !!

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Ah, ok. Misunderstood your reference there! The Chinese had five elements, curiously enough.

**Hmmm ??? ... That Is Very Very Interesting !!

Farewell For Now !!

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