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Greetings: Be aware: User ID: 769895

Now I'm curious, you're talking about surprises ...??

**Yes !!

In which field will there be surprises ?

**We Did Not Specify ... Of The Surprises !!


ST In BG
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You did not specify in which fields these surprises will be, can you be more precise ?

Where will these surprises be ?

In America ?
In Asia
In Europe ?
Somewhere else ?

And my last question : when ??
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ST ??!!

a bit of assistance here???

God doesn't exist..............!!!!......but he really does because he's ANU??????

**Anu ... Is Not A "God" !! ... He Is The Head Of Council ... & Over The Anunnaki !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST In BG, I have a most curious question I must ask. Does Anu visit and interact with human subjects while their projects are commencing? Does he play an interactive role with human subjects as being GOD? My first contact included multiple extraterrestrials with one ET who approached me telepathically giving me a sense of observation and intent he asked questions that concluded with, "ARE YOU SURE" - giving a permissible go-ahead for ET & human participation. I get the feeling there is a chain-of-command for participation and conclusions between ET and human interactive activities. Is it Anu who is giving permission for these special activities while monitoring the subject by implant listing in, interacting and keeping tabs at all times? ST is it ok for me to ask these questions?

FAMILIARIZING BY "Phazing ELE115"

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ST In BG, I notice you contain much knowledge and information is this because you are accessing through outside means, other knowledgeable ETs are sharing answers or is this coming from your own mental knowledge? I'm just being curious.

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What's wrong with the sun ???

Thread: The Sun is changing dramatically....


Here are the scientific FACTS...

1. Livingston-Penn observations that the magnetic strength
of the sunspots irrespective of their amount has linearly declined since at
least 1990 leading the spots vanishing in 2014 or 2015 if the trend continues.

2. A 50-year low in solar wind pressure: Measurements by the Ulysses spacecraft
reveal a 20% drop in solar wind pressure since the mid-1990's.

3. A 12 year low
in solar irradiance: the sun's brightness has dropped a whopping 6% at extreme
UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996.

4. A 55-year low in solar radio
wavelengths. The lessening of radio emissions seems to be an indication of
weakness in the sun's global magnetic field.

5. The all-time low (since Maunder
minimum) of Gleissberg cycle in 2005 (72 years).

6. Ap Index very low.

7. TSI
(Total Solar Irradiance) at its lowest since satellite observations began in
1979 (1365 Watts)".
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Hi ST in BG,

Here's an article reporting that fourteen women were killed today during a stampede in Pakistan to get free flour. An estimated "24 percent of Pakistan's population is undernourished," according to the U.N. World Food Program, and "38 percent of [Pakistani] children under age 5 are underweight." I believe this situation is far worse in parts of Africa.

ST in BG, I have a great deal of difficulty understanding why so much suffering is allowed to continue on Terra/Earth when the ET's have it within their power to bring it to an immediate end with Nibiru's passage. But, I have no clue as to all that is involved in that decision-making process, so please know that I mean no disrespect in stating that I find it hard to justify all the suffering on this Planet . . . I simply don't understand with my 3rd density mind.

[link to www.cnn.com]

Photo of a starving Sudanese child being stalked by a vulture:

[link to www.flatrock.org.nz]

Something else I have trouble understanding, ST in BG, is how I view death. The people suffering and dying every day is generally viewed as most unfortunate, but for most of them, it is probably their ticket into 4th density. Looking at it that way actually generates feelings of envy that I am not one of them. How is that for irony?

Thank you for your comments!
eye2sky
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I also envy the dead.
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It's just the actual dying part that isn't so fun.
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Vizz.. are you an Extraterrestrial. From where if so? If you have all the answers, please enlighten us instead of being sarcastic. I never said I was an elder. I was told I was the other. And it seems right/comfortable to me. But anyway, everytime I post you have sometimes smart in rebuttal to say, but it never makes sense to me. Please explain.

Wispy
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ST..

Some really strange things happened today. Like a time shift or something. Really weird.

Wispy
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Just saw this. Interesting..

Thread: New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe

New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe
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New evidence is suggesting that time is slowly disappearing from our universe, and will one day vanish completely. This radical new theory may explain a cosmological mystery that has baffled scientists for years.
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Just saw this. Interesting..

Thread: New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe

New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe
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New evidence is suggesting that time is slowly disappearing from our universe, and will one day vanish completely. This radical new theory may explain a cosmological mystery that has baffled scientists for years.
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Good with time disappearing...maybe Nibiru will be forced to appear.

Nice one NightWisp
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Hi ST in BG,

ST in BG, I have a great deal of difficulty understanding why so much suffering is allowed to continue on Terra/Earth when the ET's have it within their power to bring it to an immediate end with Nibiru's passage. But, I have no clue as to all that is involved in that decision-making process, so please know that I mean no disrespect in stating that I find it hard to justify all the suffering on this Planet . . . I simply don't understand with my 3rd density mind.
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Human suffering has been going on for many millenia ...it's not unique to this period of time...so i'm doubtful that it would play any role in the decision-making on Nibiru (if such a process exists). However, it is clear that earth's ecosystems are failing unlike any time before in human history.
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Vizz.. are you an Extraterrestrial. From where if so?
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Next Q.

If you have all the answers, please enlighten us instead of being sarcastic.
 Quoting: NightWisp


Lookup my posts over the last decade, I am on this board by the keyword VVizz. btw I did cancel once my account.

I never said I was an elder. I was told I was the other.
 Quoting: NightWisp


I known. Why do You think this communication is directed to You in the first place.

And it seems right/comfortable to me.
 Quoting: NightWisp


The title or the job (mess) to do ?

But anyway, everytime I post you have sometimes smart in rebuttal to say, but it never makes sense to me. Please explain.

Wispy
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It is not directed to You, so I leave this explination to our illuminated-extraterrestrials-with-their-uncontrolled-ego-man​ifestations-and-pretending-attitudes.

Demiurge: (a) heavenly being(s) subordinate to the Supreme Being.

--
ref: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Gnosticism also presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God
and the demiurgic “creator” of the material.

In contrast to Plato, several systems of Gnostic thought present the demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation occurs in unconscious semblance of the divine model, and thus is fundamentally flawed, or else is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality.
...
In the Apocryphon of John circa 200 AD, the demiurge has the name “Yaldabaoth,” and proclaims himself as God: "Now the archon (ruler) who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas (“fool”), and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, ‘I am God and there is no other God beside me,’ for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come."
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he -> they
God -> creator beings
highest, unknowable God -> The Ultimate Being.

All the Best,

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Wispy , do you have yahoo messenger? I do, i have all kinds of different friends on their.
Live Life To The Fullest As It May End Most Abruptly. Give The Upmost Respect To All Beings.
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ST..

Some really strange things happened today. Like a time shift or something. Really weird.

Wispy
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For some reason i "Prefer" a Pole Shift to clean this much diseased planet of all its infectious diseases.
Live Life To The Fullest As It May End Most Abruptly. Give The Upmost Respect To All Beings.
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Human suffering has been going on for many millenia ...it's not unique to this period of time...so i'm doubtful that it would play any role in the decision-making on Nibiru (if such a process exists). However, it is clear that earth's ecosystems are failing unlike any time before in human history.
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Well said, A/C! I'm afraid you may be right as far as Human suffering being a decision factor, especially since death actually puts most people in a better place, that being 4th density. It has been explained to me that Nibiru is coming at Terra/Earth's request, not ours. That makes sense since we Terrans seem hell bent on destroying her.

eye2sky
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ST, have a pineapple slurpy .... take the night off and rest up and relax.... you deserve it for all the hard work you do....
Live Life To The Fullest As It May End Most Abruptly. Give The Upmost Respect To All Beings.
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Yes Josh, I have Yahoo. But I do not know if the messenger will work on this computer. It is 98/SE/ME program. My hotmail does not work anymore. But I am FallenStarMeteorites@yahoo.com

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Human suffering has been going on for many millenia ...it's not unique to this period of time...so i'm doubtful that it would play any role in the decision-making on Nibiru (if such a process exists). However, it is clear that earth's ecosystems are failing unlike any time before in human history.


Well said, A/C! I'm afraid you may be right as far as Human suffering being a decision factor, especially since death actually puts most people in a better place, that being 4th density. It has been explained to me that Nibiru is coming at Terra/Earth's request, not ours. That makes sense since we Terrans seem hell bent on destroying her.

eye2sky
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I think I love you eye2sky...lol. Very well put.

ST if I may? Is Nibiru coming at the request of Terra/Earth's request or does Nibiru pass approximately every 3500 years or so...like clock work? Hence the reason for the Mayan time device. Notice I didnt say calendar..LOL.

I am also still confused on this upgrade thing. We go to 4D?

Do ET's that are already in 4D go to 5D and beings in 5D go to 6D...etc...up to what D?

Thank you both so much for your participation
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Do ET's that are already in 4D go to 5D and beings in 5D go to 6D...etc...up to what D?
 Quoting: RightNut 771126


laugh
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur
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I keep repeating this but every day I am more astonished. The trees are really really dying around here. It's peaked my curiousity to the point where i've been doing a lot of searching on the web to see if its just in my areas or elsewhere. It appears from what I can tell that it is happening all over the place.


I found an article talking about it happening since at least 1995, which I can believe...but this year in particular the die off has been very sudden rather than the slower but steady die off over the years as stated in the article. So sudden in fact as to be startling.

I often take my dog for a walk in a natural bogland near my house. I use to go there a lot last year, but stopped for a while and was going to other areas for a change. Yesterday I went back for the first time since probably last winter. I was amazed at the change. Vast areas of dead trees...and almost all trees are looking in poor health. The amount of dead trees were so much that even the sheepliest sheeple would have to notice.

At this point it would seem almost all the trees here are either dead or on their way out. Without the trees we cannot possibly survive much longer.. so that is the one massive change I can point to. Check in your area.. it may be happening. Look really closely at the evergreens to see if they are turning brown. It can be hard to tell from far away. The decididous trees will be tough to determine at this time of year due to fall approaching, but many of them had all their leaves dried right up by mid summer.

I started a thread specifically asking if anyone had noticed this in the pacific northwest, but got replies from all over the continent (North america) as well as even someone in wales stating this was happening. So for me this is the #1 indicator of massive and undeniable changes occuring.


Yet no one seems to care. Not one person I've talked to face to face has mentioned it where I live.

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St you said we may have had our "sentence extended" so people can think on their actions. Well it appears they are not thinking on their actions but just rather ignoring what is going on. I am not surprised. When/if they find out the weakened magnetosphere may be a key factor in the plant/tree deaths they will likely just blame that. Do you really feel people will realize the damage they have caused to earth?
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"**The Question Is ... What Is It ... That They ARE Bombing ?? ... Or Attempting To Bomb ???"

Aztlan?

**Something That Is Felt ... Is Worth "Bombable" ... In "Their Eyes" !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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I live deep in the forest in New England...I don't see the die off that you are talking about...trees look pretty healthy here except for some signs of pine beetle.
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Do ET's that are already in 4D go to 5D and beings in 5D go to 6D...etc...up to what D?


laugh
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur
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Well I do like to make beings laugh, so I am glad you enjoyed my question. I did not think it was a ridicules question though????? blink
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Do ET's that are already in 4D go to 5D and beings in 5D go to 6D...etc...up to what D?


laugh
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

Well I do like to make beings laugh, so I am glad you enjoyed my question. I did not think it was a ridicules question though????? blink
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It was not related to ridiculize the question.

[link to www.worldtrans.org]

But there are more. :-) Anyway.

Who bring a laugh, brings the a glimpse of the Sunshine.

All the Best,

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Hi ST In BG,

I'm sorry to hear that you've had such a prolonged ordeal with your roof leak and water damage.

**Thank You !! ... It Has Been ... "Difficult" ... To Have To ... "Postpone One's Life" ... & The Things That Were Going On !! ... Yet Perhaps ... Such Does Provide The "Incentive" ... On Things That Have Been ... Needing To Be Taken Care Of ... Such As To Thoroughly Go Through Things ... To Check Them Out .... To Record/Document
... Then To Repack ... With Emphasis On Protection From Elements ... Even Those Elements & Occasions Unforeseen ... As In ... A Roof Leak !!

That is a definite problem on 3rd density Terra/Earth . . . shoddy workmanship!

**Oh Indeed !! ... & Well ... Going Cheaper ... Is Getting Cheaper !! ... Of Which The Work At The Time ... Should Have Been Thoroughly Gone Over & Inspected ... Before The Job Was Paid !! ... Including All Liabilities For Workmanship ... Spelled Out ... Before The Job(s) Were Undertaken !! ... As Is ... There Was That "Assume" Factor ... That Go Them/Ourselves ... Into Trouble !! ... The Russians Have An Expression ... Trust ... But Verify !!
... The Trust Was Undertaken ... But The Verification ... The Follow Through ... Was Not !! ... So If Leaks Were Discovered ... During The "Warranty Time" ... Then Of Course They Would Be Forced To Come Out & Fix This !! ...
But If Beyond This ... Due To Errors On Their Part ... Then Well ... "It's Your Baby" ... We're Not Responsible !! ... Such A Clause Of "Poor Workmanship" ... Extending Beyond Set "Time Limitations" ... Should Have
Been Agreed To !! ... Alas ... It Was Not !!

Of course, when the damage is eventually revealed, the contractors are long gone, or off the hook due to an expired warranty or the statute of limitations.

**Oh Yes !! ... That Is Usually How It Works !! ... Cut The Corners ... Save The Money ... Do The Job ... "Half Asped" ... Then Leave ... & Wait For The "Limited Warranty" On Workmanship ... Goods/Materials ... To Expire ... Including Any Statutes Of Liability !!

Over the years, I have been involved in three lawsuits seeking reparations for shoddy/defective construction, so I know exactly what you are experiencing.

**Indeed !! ... You Have Been "Through The Process" !!

Please forgive me for being a little surprised, though, that you want to replace most or all of your personal property that was not salvageable.

I was under the impression that we will not be taking personal property into 4th density.

Am I mistaken about this?

**Well ... I Was Told ... That My Things Would Be Taken Aboard ... & Placed Inside The Cargo Hold ... Of Which They Would Be Accessible ... For My Use !! ... As There Were Those Things ... Of My Possessions ... Which Were Inclusive/Part Of My Missions ... That I Was To Obtain !! ... So These Things To My Understanding ... Will Come With Me !! ... It Will Be As If ... Of The Apartment ... I Had Never Lived Here !!

Of course, I fully understand how you, as an Elder, would be exempt from this limitation/restriction on the rest of us. I hope that is the case.

**There Are ... "Certain Exceptions" To The Rules Of ... "You Can't Take It With You" ... When It Is ... Of Those Things ... That Were/Are ... Part Of Your Volunteering Missions To/On ... Terra/Earth !! ... Of This I Am To Be Assured ... That None Of These Things ... Will Be Missing !! ... Even Those Books, Materials Which Are Felt To Be Damaged ... Can Be Made As New & Unread !! ... Even Of Severe Damage .... Writings ... Discoloring, Aging
... "Missing Pages & Missing Dust Jackets" !! ... The Book(s) Know ... Have Memory Of What They Were Originally Like ... So They Can Be Made/Induced ... To Revert ... To A Previous State ... Where They Were ... "Fresh Off
The Press" !!

*We Know !! ... So Why Were The Damaged/Moldy Books ... Thrown Into The Dumpster ?? ... Simply Because They Were Damaged To The Extent ... That They Were Also ... A "Health Hazard" !! ... Though This Could Have Been Dealt With
To ... Yet At The Moment ... It Was Better To Replace These ... Even With Copies Lesser In Quality !!
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Hi ST In BG,

ST in BG,

I have a great deal of difficulty understanding why so
much suffering is allowed to continue on Terra/Earth when the ET's have it within their power to bring it to an immediate end with Nibiru's passage.

**We Do Not Have The Answers ... To Such Questions ... Only To Say ... That Things Have To Proceed ... As They Will !!

But, I have no clue as to all that is involved in that decision-making process, so please know that I mean no disrespect in stating that I find it hard to justify all the suffering on this Planet . . . I simply don't understand with my 3rd density mind.

**Such Understandings ... Are Elusive ... & Quite Difficult To Comprehend !!

Flour giveaway in Pakistan turns into deadly stampede

[link to www.cnn.com]

Photo of a starving Sudanese child being stalked by a vulture:

[link to www.flatrock.org.nz]

Something else I have trouble understanding, ST in BG, is how I view death.

The people suffering and dying every day is generally viewed as most unfortunate, but for most of them, it is probably their ticket into 4th density.

Looking at it that way actually generates feelings of envy that I am not one of them. How is that for irony?

**Hmmmm !!!

Thank you for your comments!

You Are Very Welcome !! ... & Thank You ... For The Links !!

eye2sky

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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I known. Why do You think this communication is directed to You in the first place.
********
Because your reply usually follows my post.

So.. you are Riddick?

Wispy
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ST, is your email not excepting emails to get sent? I tried sending 1 but it rejected it.

Maybe its that we are now connected to a new internet provider that my old email address cannot send from.
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Quoting: ST In BG 759875

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 767016

**You Intend To Insult ... Without Understanding !! ... Not
Ambitious ... Rather ... It Was The Mission That "He" Was Created/Designed For ... Of The Mix Of Many Of The Anunnaki ... To Walk Amongst You ... To Travel That World ... To Unite All Peoples As One !! ... In His Lifetime ... Of He & His Entourage ... His Party ... He Did Travel ... Throughout Your Planet !! ... And When He Did ... What He Could Do ... He Was Transported
Aboard ... A Vessel ... & Left !!

There is a gap in understanding between us...don't quite
understand what you mean when you say they hoped his presence would help to "unite all peoples as one"

**It Means Exactly That !! ... Of Which His Mission Was ... To Unite All Peoples As One ... Throughout The Planet !! ... And So He & His Party ... Traveled The World Of Terra/Earth ... In Doing This !!

... you seem to imply that this unity may have been possible if not for the misdeeds of the Church.

**Such Unity Would Not Have Happened Immediately ... Though ... It Would Have Happened !! ... With Or Without Interference !! ... Though Of ... "Those Of Rome" ... Of Devious Means ... They Saw An Advantage ... A "Weakness" ... Of The People Of Those Times ... & Contrived To Take Advantage Of This Weakness ... By "Creating A Character Of Their Own" ... That Matched The Departed Apollonius Of Tyana ... In Which The People Still
Bemoaned !! ... This Was Using That "Fan Base" To Their Advantage ... A Con ... "Bait & Switch" .... In Which Those People Were Sold ... "A Bill Of Goods" ... (A Falseness Without Substance) ... In Which Blinded By Their Needs ... Their Hopes & Passions ... Others Took Advantage Of ... To
Manipulate & Control !!

with or without the presence of the Church, one person could not have affected consciousness in such a dramatic way

**The Individual & His Party ... Had That Effect !! ... This Was Fact ... Of The Way In Which He/They ... Went Into Hostile & Non Hostile Lands ... To Which Of Hostile Warring Lands ... Both Sides Immediately Ceased Hostilities ... And Came Out To Greet The Visitors ... With Kindness !! ... Whether He "Radiated A Force Of Energy" That Caused These ... Changes Of Attitudes ?? ... Whether Those Warring Peoples Had Of Their Customs ... A Kindness/Respect For Strangers ?? ... Whatever The Cause(s) ... Apollonius
Of Tyana & His Party ... Were Never Accosted ... Never Harmed ... Never Prevented In Their Travels !!

...individuals cannot/will not simply wake up and find
truth because they are in presence of a "holy man"...for how would one know what is "holy" if they have no reference point for making such a judgment. true consciousness development requires the hard knocks of the schoolhouse
of life and relationships. as humans, we all start off with a sort of handicap, that of the "ego", the separate self identity. the "ego" must be understood before a higher state of union with others can come about. this understanding cannot simply be taught to you through the presence of an "enlightened" one, although their presence may inspire you. the "ego" has many many tricks in its bag. for example, it is quite likely the "ego" will enlist any so-called "holy man" for its own expansion...how does the "ego" become understood? well, perhaps there is something outside of the ego...and perhaps that something no longer fears seeing itself naked, without identification to anybody or anything but itself. and that something will
shine so much light that it helps to dissolve what is harmful about ego and retain what is useful about ego. the naked one will now know others through knowing itself and harmony/unity is the only path it can follow. you will
know that you cannot gain any advantage over others, for you are they and they are you.

**Such Is Interesting ... But Did Not Apply ... When In The Presence Of Apollonius & His Party !! ... It Was Simply That In Each Land That The Visited ... The Peoples There Reacted With Great Welcome ... Great Kindness !!

If the story you tell of the origins of the "Jesus" myth is
true, I say to you...don't blame it on the Church...the Church and its followers are one and the same...all parties are coming from a place of fear, the Church dependant on its followers and its followers dependent on the Church....where there is no understanding the "ego", there can be no integration with the divine self (which includes ALL)

**We Will Place Blame ... Where It Is Due !! ... Whereas A "Church" Is A Building ... Constructed For It's Occupants ... It's "Believers" .... It Was Moreso Those ... "Cloaked In Religion" ... Using Such Things To Their Advantages ... Criminals In Your Day & Age ... Who Were "Believers" ... So Long As This Would Get Them ... The Things In Life ... They So Desired !! ... Which It Was Not Enough To Covet Ones Possessions ... They Needed To
Have ... Control Over The Mind & Hearts Of Man !! ... Control & Power Over Them !!
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Quoting: ST In BG 759875

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 767016

**Another Lie Compounded ... Was That Constantine Converted To Christianity ... Before He Died !! ... While It Was True ... The Last "Religious/Belief Sect" To Visit Him ... Was Of The Termed: "Christian Order" ... He Never Did Such A Thing ... Yet He Was ... "Helped Along To Die" ... &
When That "Minor Sect" Of The Representatives Exited From Seeing Constantine ... They Proclaimed That ... Just Before He Died ... He Was Made A Christian !! ... Which Was A Lie ... & Simply A Plan To Use This ... To Bolster Their
Standings ... To Take Power ... Behind The Scenes !! ... Before They Were As Nothing ... More Of A "Minor Nuisance" ... But This Was A "Power Grab" ... Of Which Their Deception Was Pulled Off ... They Felt ... Rather Nicely !! ... So Much So ... That The Lie ... & Other Lies Of Your "Religious Beliefs" There ... Are Controlling & Running Your Lives ... To This Day !!

If these lies are "controlling & running our lives" it is only because we allow them to control & run our lives.

**Perhaps ... Though "Allowance" Is Not Always Given It's ... "Light Of Day" ... Of A Full Understanding .... Of What Is Being "Allowed" !! ... When Employed By Those On Terra/Earth ... Who Are Trained ... In The Arts Of Deception ... Most Anything Can Be Sold/Pandered ... To Individuals Who Are Not Understanding ... And In Those Times ... Of Those Peoples ... They Were Purposefully Kept "Dumbed Down" ... In Ignorance ... Not Being Able To
Read ... Of Which Few Of The "Commoners" ... Could Write !! ... So Those Who "Usurped Power & Control" ... "Interpreted The Words" ... To Those Considered To Be ... Dumb & Stupid !! ... So Long As These "Simple Folk" ... Were Kept "Uneducated/Unknowing" ... Then Their Plans Could & Would Continue !! ... The Same Thing (Yet Also Employing More "Technological Means") Happens In Your ... Day & Age !! ... & Once These "Crooks" ... These "Flim Flam Artists" ... Have Become So Engrained Into Your Cultures ... It Is Very Difficult To Remove Them ... Yet ... They Can Be Removed ... As Any Parasitical Being Can !!

If we are listening to the lies, it is because the lies are like sweet music to our ears.

**You Are Listening ... Because From An Early Age ... You Have Been "Programmed" ... "Brought Up" To Listen ... That Your "Governments/Politicians" ... Those Terrestrial Authorities ... Were In Charge ... & You Were Beneath & Responsible To Them !! ... Of This "Programming" ... It Was Ingrained From Your Very Childhood ... Hence The State/Government Run Schools ... The Television Programming/Hypnosis ... Your Cell Phone Towers ... The Drugs In Your Water ... Your Food ... & Many Other Things !! ... All To Keep You In Line ... & Under Control ... For Use ... For Manipulation !!

ST, the way you speak often seems to encourage a "victimhood consciousness", and i wonder if you acknowledge this???

**We Encourage Empowerment ... However ... One Is Not Wise ... To Attempt Alone ... To "Storm The Castle" ... Without A Very Heavy Log ... & Many Helping To Carry & Impel It's Motions !! ... Wisdom Can Be Found In "Immediate Actions" ... Yet Wisdom Can Also Be Found In ... Examining The Problem ... Before Initiating Action ... Before Proceeding !!

How about saying..." Are Controlling & Running the Lives of Many Humans", not "Are Controlling & Running Your Lives"?

** "Human" Is The Body/Shell/Container !! ... It Is The Animating Energies Within ... That Are ... The Real YOU !! ... Of This ... It Is Not Just To Control ... The Biomechanical Shell ... But Of ... The Very Essences ...
That Make Up You !!! ... So Of This ... It Is ... An Attempt ... To Control/Run ... Ones Lives ... Of That Which Makes Up ... Your Very Energy Being ... Of That Matrix Of The Sum Of Your Lives/Lifetimes !!
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Here are pictures of the hummingbird crop circle formation and The Nazca hummingbird...

[link to psychedelicadventure.blogspot.com]

How about hummingbird as metaphor for the journey of core self as it lets go of all fears, all limitations that the superficial self imposes...

Flight of the Hummingbird

©2009 Carlisle Bergquist, MA, LCMFT,

Enjoying the warm sunshine while contemplating one of those
forks in the road we always hear about, a beautiful green Anise hummingbird navigated through the red blossoms of a succulent carefully positioning itself to extract the nectar from each flower before it moved on to the
next. Then, hovering directly in front of my face at eye level, a bright crimson-orange flash came from the hummingbird's breast followed by several more as it danced before me in the sunlight. Perhaps he was contemplating
what sort of flower I was, but each time his vibrant burst went right inside me as potently as if Commander Kirk had blasted me with a Phaser. It stunned me. I took it as an affirmation that my decision was correct still it would
take several years to realize the complete significance of that colorfully illuminated encounter.

In Andean mysticism, I later found out, the hummingbird
represents the North, the wisdom position on the medicine wheel. It is the symbol of the soul. It demonstrates its courage and wisdom in the vast migration it makes each year from the jungles of Brazil to the hills and valleys of North America. With its tiny body and diminutive wings, it flies across the expanse of ocean traveling on what seems like only the will to fulfill its ancestral destiny. Along the path leading to my fork in the road, I read like a sponge absorbing every mystical and esoteric text I could find. One book called Healing States by Stanley Krippner and Alberto Villoldo, spawned an earlier flash from the soul. Now, like the hummingbird on little wings, I was fluttering towards destiny on my epic journey....

Continued:

[link to www.vantagequest.org]

**What The "Hummingbird" Is Saying ... Is Far More Basic Then This !! ... Has Nothing To Do With ... "Individual "Going Within" Journeys" ... But
Rather ... Of That To Be Seen From Overhead ... From The Sky !! ... Of Which It Has A Meaning ... To Those That Are Seeing This ... From Above !!! ... **Consider You Are In A Craft ... A Ship ... & Looking At This ... What Would This Be Saying To You ?? .... What Would The Other "Glyphs" Be
Saying ???

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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