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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 770504

Quoting: ST In BG 759875

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 767016

**You Intend To Insult ... Without Understanding !! ... Not
Ambitious ... Rather ... It Was The Mission That "He" Was Created/Designed For ... Of The Mix Of Many Of The Anunnaki ... To Walk Amongst You ... To Travel That World ... To Unite All Peoples As One !! ... In His Lifetime ... Of He & His Entourage ... His Party ... He Did Travel ... Throughout Your Planet !! ... And When He Did ... What He Could Do ... He Was Transported
Aboard ... A Vessel ... & Left !!

There is a gap in understanding between us...don't quite
understand what you mean when you say they hoped his presence would help to "unite all peoples as one"

**It Means Exactly That !! ... Of Which His Mission Was ... To Unite All Peoples As One ... Throughout The Planet !! ... And So He & His Party ... Traveled The World Of Terra/Earth ... In Doing This !!

... you seem to imply that this unity may have been possible if not for the misdeeds of the Church.

**Such Unity Would Not Have Happened Immediately ... Though ... It Would Have Happened !! ... With Or Without Interference !! ... Though Of ... "Those Of Rome" ... Of Devious Means ... They Saw An Advantage ... A "Weakness" ... Of The People Of Those Times ... & Contrived To Take Advantage Of This Weakness ... By "Creating A Character Of Their Own" ... That Matched The Departed Apollonius Of Tyana ... In Which The People Still
Bemoaned !! ... This Was Using That "Fan Base" To Their Advantage ... A Con ... "Bait & Switch" .... In Which Those People Were Sold ... "A Bill Of Goods" ... (A Falseness Without Substance) ... In Which Blinded By Their Needs ... Their Hopes & Passions ... Others Took Advantage Of ... To
Manipulate & Control !!

with or without the presence of the Church, one person could not have affected consciousness in such a dramatic way

**The Individual & His Party ... Had That Effect !! ... This Was Fact ... Of The Way In Which He/They ... Went Into Hostile & Non Hostile Lands ... To Which Of Hostile Warring Lands ... Both Sides Immediately Ceased Hostilities ... And Came Out To Greet The Visitors ... With Kindness !! ... Whether He "Radiated A Force Of Energy" That Caused These ... Changes Of Attitudes ?? ... Whether Those Warring Peoples Had Of Their Customs ... A Kindness/Respect For Strangers ?? ... Whatever The Cause(s) ... Apollonius
Of Tyana & His Party ... Were Never Accosted ... Never Harmed ... Never Prevented In Their Travels !!

...individuals cannot/will not simply wake up and find
truth because they are in presence of a "holy man"...for how would one know what is "holy" if they have no reference point for making such a judgment. true consciousness development requires the hard knocks of the schoolhouse
of life and relationships. as humans, we all start off with a sort of handicap, that of the "ego", the separate self identity. the "ego" must be understood before a higher state of union with others can come about. this understanding cannot simply be taught to you through the presence of an "enlightened" one, although their presence may inspire you. the "ego" has many many tricks in its bag. for example, it is quite likely the "ego" will enlist any so-called "holy man" for its own expansion...how does the "ego" become understood? well, perhaps there is something outside of the ego...and perhaps that something no longer fears seeing itself naked, without identification to anybody or anything but itself. and that something will
shine so much light that it helps to dissolve what is harmful about ego and retain what is useful about ego. the naked one will now know others through knowing itself and harmony/unity is the only path it can follow. you will
know that you cannot gain any advantage over others, for you are they and they are you.

**Such Is Interesting ... But Did Not Apply ... When In The Presence Of Apollonius & His Party !! ... It Was Simply That In Each Land That The Visited ... The Peoples There Reacted With Great Welcome ... Great Kindness !!

If the story you tell of the origins of the "Jesus" myth is
true, I say to you...don't blame it on the Church...the Church and its followers are one and the same...all parties are coming from a place of fear, the Church dependant on its followers and its followers dependent on the Church....where there is no understanding the "ego", there can be no integration with the divine self (which includes ALL)

**We Will Place Blame ... Where It Is Due !! ... Whereas A "Church" Is A Building ... Constructed For It's Occupants ... It's "Believers" .... It Was Moreso Those ... "Cloaked In Religion" ... Using Such Things To Their Advantages ... Criminals In Your Day & Age ... Who Were "Believers" ... So Long As This Would Get Them ... The Things In Life ... They So Desired !! ... Which It Was Not Enough To Covet Ones Possessions ... They Needed To
Have ... Control Over The Mind & Hearts Of Man !! ... Control & Power Over Them !!
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Quoting: ST In BG 759875

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 767016

**Another Lie Compounded ... Was That Constantine Converted To Christianity ... Before He Died !! ... While It Was True ... The Last "Religious/Belief Sect" To Visit Him ... Was Of The Termed: "Christian Order" ... He Never Did Such A Thing ... Yet He Was ... "Helped Along To Die" ... &
When That "Minor Sect" Of The Representatives Exited From Seeing Constantine ... They Proclaimed That ... Just Before He Died ... He Was Made A Christian !! ... Which Was A Lie ... & Simply A Plan To Use This ... To Bolster Their
Standings ... To Take Power ... Behind The Scenes !! ... Before They Were As Nothing ... More Of A "Minor Nuisance" ... But This Was A "Power Grab" ... Of Which Their Deception Was Pulled Off ... They Felt ... Rather Nicely !! ... So Much So ... That The Lie ... & Other Lies Of Your "Religious Beliefs" There ... Are Controlling & Running Your Lives ... To This Day !!

If these lies are "controlling & running our lives" it is only because we allow them to control & run our lives.

**Perhaps ... Though "Allowance" Is Not Always Given It's ... "Light Of Day" ... Of A Full Understanding .... Of What Is Being "Allowed" !! ... When Employed By Those On Terra/Earth ... Who Are Trained ... In The Arts Of Deception ... Most Anything Can Be Sold/Pandered ... To Individuals Who Are Not Understanding ... And In Those Times ... Of Those Peoples ... They Were Purposefully Kept "Dumbed Down" ... In Ignorance ... Not Being Able To
Read ... Of Which Few Of The "Commoners" ... Could Write !! ... So Those Who "Usurped Power & Control" ... "Interpreted The Words" ... To Those Considered To Be ... Dumb & Stupid !! ... So Long As These "Simple Folk" ... Were Kept "Uneducated/Unknowing" ... Then Their Plans Could & Would Continue !! ... The Same Thing (Yet Also Employing More "Technological Means") Happens In Your ... Day & Age !! ... & Once These "Crooks" ... These "Flim Flam Artists" ... Have Become So Engrained Into Your Cultures ... It Is Very Difficult To Remove Them ... Yet ... They Can Be Removed ... As Any Parasitical Being Can !!

If we are listening to the lies, it is because the lies are like sweet music to our ears.

**You Are Listening ... Because From An Early Age ... You Have Been "Programmed" ... "Brought Up" To Listen ... That Your "Governments/Politicians" ... Those Terrestrial Authorities ... Were In Charge ... & You Were Beneath & Responsible To Them !! ... Of This "Programming" ... It Was Ingrained From Your Very Childhood ... Hence The State/Government Run Schools ... The Television Programming/Hypnosis ... Your Cell Phone Towers ... The Drugs In Your Water ... Your Food ... & Many Other Things !! ... All To Keep You In Line ... & Under Control ... For Use ... For Manipulation !!

ST, the way you speak often seems to encourage a "victimhood consciousness", and i wonder if you acknowledge this???

**We Encourage Empowerment ... However ... One Is Not Wise ... To Attempt Alone ... To "Storm The Castle" ... Without A Very Heavy Log ... & Many Helping To Carry & Impel It's Motions !! ... Wisdom Can Be Found In "Immediate Actions" ... Yet Wisdom Can Also Be Found In ... Examining The Problem ... Before Initiating Action ... Before Proceeding !!

How about saying..." Are Controlling & Running the Lives of Many Humans", not "Are Controlling & Running Your Lives"?

** "Human" Is The Body/Shell/Container !! ... It Is The Animating Energies Within ... That Are ... The Real YOU !! ... Of This ... It Is Not Just To Control ... The Biomechanical Shell ... But Of ... The Very Essences ...
That Make Up You !!! ... So Of This ... It Is ... An Attempt ... To Control/Run ... Ones Lives ... Of That Which Makes Up ... Your Very Energy Being ... Of That Matrix Of The Sum Of Your Lives/Lifetimes !!
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Here are pictures of the hummingbird crop circle formation and The Nazca hummingbird...

[link to psychedelicadventure.blogspot.com]

How about hummingbird as metaphor for the journey of core self as it lets go of all fears, all limitations that the superficial self imposes...

Flight of the Hummingbird

©2009 Carlisle Bergquist, MA, LCMFT,

Enjoying the warm sunshine while contemplating one of those
forks in the road we always hear about, a beautiful green Anise hummingbird navigated through the red blossoms of a succulent carefully positioning itself to extract the nectar from each flower before it moved on to the
next. Then, hovering directly in front of my face at eye level, a bright crimson-orange flash came from the hummingbird's breast followed by several more as it danced before me in the sunlight. Perhaps he was contemplating
what sort of flower I was, but each time his vibrant burst went right inside me as potently as if Commander Kirk had blasted me with a Phaser. It stunned me. I took it as an affirmation that my decision was correct still it would
take several years to realize the complete significance of that colorfully illuminated encounter.

In Andean mysticism, I later found out, the hummingbird
represents the North, the wisdom position on the medicine wheel. It is the symbol of the soul. It demonstrates its courage and wisdom in the vast migration it makes each year from the jungles of Brazil to the hills and valleys of North America. With its tiny body and diminutive wings, it flies across the expanse of ocean traveling on what seems like only the will to fulfill its ancestral destiny. Along the path leading to my fork in the road, I read like a sponge absorbing every mystical and esoteric text I could find. One book called Healing States by Stanley Krippner and Alberto Villoldo, spawned an earlier flash from the soul. Now, like the hummingbird on little wings, I was fluttering towards destiny on my epic journey....

Continued:

[link to www.vantagequest.org]

**What The "Hummingbird" Is Saying ... Is Far More Basic Then This !! ... Has Nothing To Do With ... "Individual "Going Within" Journeys" ... But
Rather ... Of That To Be Seen From Overhead ... From The Sky !! ... Of Which It Has A Meaning ... To Those That Are Seeing This ... From Above !!! ... **Consider You Are In A Craft ... A Ship ... & Looking At This ... What Would This Be Saying To You ?? .... What Would The Other "Glyphs" Be
Saying ???

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST i would just like you to know my yahoo messenger is bfavreforprez.
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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 694091

ST In BG,

question

when a human contact has been given numerous
implants does this mean that contact has now become a conduit of the people/one people?

**No ... As "Implants" Can Be Used ... In Of ... Various/Differing Means ... Different Purposes ... & By Different Beings/Species/People ... That Use
These !!

This has become a rather strange sensation for me since I
now am aware of my eyes, ears, mind and other bizarre areas of my body is being monitored and accessed by those who implanted these devices!

**Such Is Not An Intrusion ... Rather Of Ways That Go Along With ... Your Volunteering !! ... In The Conduit's Case ... Of Medical Devices ... To Monitor/Alert Of Biomechanical Difficulties ... To Be Able To Remotely Heal
... Prevent & Heal Injuries .... Of Communication ... To Be Able To "Speak/Talk" More Clearly ... Of Telepathic Means ... More One Might Say ... A Booster Of Things Already Present ... Of The Ability To See Through
His Eyes ... Hear Through His Ears ... To Type Through Him !! ... Which Facilitates This Communication/Connection !! ... As He Is Of Our Energies
... The Matter Of Conversion Of Such Implantation Processes & Needs ... Were Quite Simple To Perform !!

I feel like a walking human interface probe...with many who are telepathically thanking me for conjoined participation.

**In A Way ... Perhaps !! ... Though Consider That You Are Still You !! ... It Is That ... By Your Agreement Of Being A Volunteer ... You Have Asked To Help Out ... To Participate ... So Of This ... It Is What You Are Doing !!

My only problem is these ongoing sessions where I'm being borrowed nightly for unknown reasons.

**Hmmmm !!

These semi-conscious memories are very disturbing.

**Yes ... We Understand !!

The latest included long needles into my toes and side. I did not like that at all and I'm sure that one ET being who happen to be behind me became startled as I reached out to
him grabbing his arm for emotional support.

**Yes ... Though Such Things ... Do Happen For Reasons !! ... Of This ... It Was A "Medical Procedure" ... Of Correction ... Or Prevention !! ... Perhaps Both ??? ... It Is Always Allowed To Ask ... What It Is ... That Is
Going On ... What You Are Doing !! ... & If The Moments Are Allowed ... & You Do Not ... "Make A Fuss" ... In Which Moments Are Wasted ... Then They Might Take A Moment Or So ... To Answer Your Questions !!
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Hello ST In BG,

question,

are the environment conditions completely separate in 4th Density as composed to 3rd? Are they the same? So if it's 110 degrees outside 3rd Density would the temperature be identical in 4th?

**Both 3rd Density & 4th Density ... Are Of Different Energy Planes ... So The Rules Are Different ... In Both Places !!

How do you regulate the environment when you occupy a density?

**All Done Automatically !! ... Those One Can Make Changes "Manually" As Well !!

The reason I ask is when I was staying at my sister's I was sleeping in the room in the attic which had no air conditioning and was really really hot very uncomfortable.

**Ouch Ouch Ouch !!!!

When I noticed an ET visitor during the night I felt cool air surrounding my proximity.

**Very Nice !!!

It was a comfortable moment but didn't last - wishing they could have left the dimensional door or window open - phooey!

**Yes Indeed !!!
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ST In BG,

I have a most curious question I must ask.

Does Anu visit and interact with human subjects while their projects are commencing?

**Lord Anu Does Visit On Occasion ... But Often This Is When ... He Needs To Step In ... & Take Charge Of A Situation !!! ... Essentially When ... Those Below Are ... Screwing Up !!! ... OH Boy !!! ... If He Has To Visit ... To
Sort Out Their Mess ... The Expression Is ... "Heads Will Roll" !!!

Does he play an interactive role with human subjects as being GOD?

**No ... As Such An Idea ... Used Upon Him ... Would Be Very Insultive !!!

My first contact included multiple extraterrestrials with one ET who approached me telepathically giving me a sense of observation and intent he asked questions that concluded with, "ARE YOU SURE" - giving a permissible go-ahead for ET & human participation.

**Or Rather ... ET & ET Energy Essence ... Within The Terrestrial "Human" Container ... Participation !!

I get the feeling there is a chain-of-command for participation and conclusions between ET and human
interactive activities.

**Perhaps !!

Is it Anu who is giving permission for these special
activities?

**Of The Anunnaki ... And Head Of Council ... He May Grant Permissions !!
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ST In BG,

I notice you contain much knowledge and information is
this because you are accessing through outside means, other knowledgeable ETs are sharing answers or is this coming from your own mental knowledge?

**It Is Because ... We Are Able To ... Access The Information ... Much More Easily ... Much More Freer ... Then You Are !!

I'm just being curious.

Yes Of Course !!

Phazing ELE115

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST , i've always sort of felt a being out of place, not totally comfortable in my own skin. being inside myself without seeing myself and just others unless looking through a mirror. why would this be? a sense of not belonging and a uneasiness of life. what do you think ST?
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I known. Why do You think this communication is directed to You in the first place.
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Because your reply usually follows my post.

So.. you are Riddick?

Wispy
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All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

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ST i've prob had like 20 surguries drugged with anesthesia and such to be put to sleep during those surguries, and had many when i was a little baby.

could that be why i at times feel like can't remember or think properly when trying to memorize things that i read or such? And why i forget where i put items at times and other things, and sometimes forget meanings of words and have to look them up and study much much harder to rememeber things? Thanks, Josh.
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Greetings: mj-13: User ID: 770553

Greetings ST In BG.

I think you are right.

We need all the help we can get.

**Indeed You Do !!

So if Gort, Klattu, Robbie the Robot and S.I.D. will like to
join in, I would be happy to roll out the red carpet.

**Of Those So Mentioned ... There Is A Kind/Type Of "Gort" ... Though Not In That Image ... Of Those That Keep Watch ... That Patrol !! ... Klattu
... Would Of Course ... Would Either Be ... Along For The Ride ... Of His Mission ... Or At Least Be Involved !! ... Robbie The Robot ... Well Lots Of ... "Robbies" About !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... S.I.D. (Space Intruder
Detector) ... Yes ... There Is A Form Of This ... As Well !!

Maybe Lt. Gay Ellis

**It's Possible !!

and Mr. Straker would like to join in as well.

**Just So Long As He Arrives ... In His ... "Futuristic Car" ... A Delorian ?? ... With The "Gull Wing Doors" ... Of Which The Conduit ... Has Always Liked/Admired !! ... Reminds Him So Much Of "Home" ... With Vehicles That
Have ... Similar "Doors" !!

Any way, if you could please give your take on the real story of 9/11, I would really like to hear it.

**Oh Boy !!! ... Well The "Job" Was All Orchestrated ... All Planned Out ... Way In Advance !! ... Lots Of Different Parties Involved ... Of Their Actions ... Their Roles They Were Playing ... And Each To Get ... "A Cut Of
The Pie" !! ... Everything From ... Disabling The Security For Awhile ... To Plant Chemicals To Weaken The Supports ... To Remote Controlled "Construction Explosives" ... (Mini Nukes) That Are Used For Demolition
Purposes ... "Stand Down Orders" Given For The Day Of The Event !! ... The "Created Illusion" Of Airplanes (Using "Blue Beam Technology") ... To Faked Remote Voices (Noone Aboard As The Planes Did Not Exist !!) ... The
Crashing Of The Planes Into The Tower(s) ... & The Remote Triggering Of The Detonations !! ... Of Which Along With Asbestos Fallout ... Was Radiation Fallout !! ... It Was A "Temporary Radioactive Hot Spot" !! ... Of Not Needing To Remove The Asbestos From The Building ... Since It Rather Is
Now Destroyed !! ... Insurance Taken Out ... Added To ... With The Clause Of Double/More Monies Paid Out ... If Building(s) Taken Out By Terrorists !! ... In Which Land Could Be Cleared & Brand New Buildings Built ... With
Extra Pocketed !! ... Planted Evidences Found ... Miraculously Surviving !! ... "Middle East" Assistance ... "Helping Out" In The Charade !! ... Excuses Of "Terrorists On Home Soil" ... To Pass Through Quickly ... Measures For "One Protections" ... To Oppress The Peoples & Take Away Their Rights !! ... Generated Paranoia ... Using The "Everyone Is A Potential Terrorist" Theme !! ... Held Held Cameras/Film Confiscated ... As The Camera Lens/Filters ... Would Screen Out ... The Projected Illusion Of The Plane(s) ... That Were Not There !! ... And People That Talked ... Were Made To Look Foolish ... Or
Even Killed ... If They Went Ahead & Talked In Public !!

**The "Plane" That Was Involved With The Pentagon ... That Was Planted ... & Opps !! ... Of The Debris ... It Had The Wrong Engine !!! ... (Which In Actuality Was A Missile That Was Launched ... From Cape Canaveral, Florida ... That Blew Out A Section Of The Wall !!)

I do believe in the "inside job" theory, just in case you were wondering.

**Yes Indeed !!!

Anyway, any details you could provide on the subject would be appreciated.

**We Gave Of Some Comments !!

One more thing: Live long and prosper. May the force be with you, always.

**And ... Long Life & Perspire !! ... May The Farce Be With You Too !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Your buddy, MJ-13.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 770504

**What The "Hummingbird" Is Saying ... Is Far More Basic Then This !! ... Has Nothing To Do With ... "Individual "Going Within" Journeys" ... But
Rather ... Of That To Be Seen From Overhead ... From The Sky !! ... Of Which It Has A Meaning ... To Those That Are Seeing This ... From Above !!! ... **Consider You Are In A Craft ... A Ship ... & Looking At This ... What Would This Be Saying To You ?? .... What Would The Other "Glyphs" Be
Saying ???

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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It would be saying that the people on the ground don't see the full picture because their perspective is so limited.
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Greetings: sasha: User ID: 768159

WOW ST, nice description of what you been up to the last few
weeks or so that must have took many moments to type.

**Thank You !! ... Yes It Did !! ... Quite A Number Of Moments To Type !!

Glad your sleeping on the futon bed alright,

**Well No ... Not Yet !! ... The Mattress & Wood Frame ... Are Outside The Bedroom ... In The Hallway ... Propped Up Against The Hallway Book Closets !! ... Since The Leak ... I've Been Camped Out ... Sleeping On The Floor ...
On Blankets !! ... Today/This Morning ... The Maintenance Man Put The 3rd & Final "Mud Coat/Filler" On The Back Bedroom Closet Ceiling ... This Has To Dry Overnight ... & Then Depending Upon Dryness ... He Will Wet Sand The Drywall ... & Paint This On Tuesday !! ... All Depends On How Dry This Is !! ... So Cross Fingers ... Curl Toes ... Bat Eyelashes !!

my friend Zeke has a futon and they're comfortable .. i seen them in the shopko for around under 100 dollars i believe.

**Yes The Futon Is ... Though My Futon Mattress Is Worn Out ... Has Seen It's Time !! ... I Want To Find A Twin Futon Mattress Inexpensive ... With The Cotton Batting ... Not The Polyester Crap ... Which Outgases !! ... Mine Has Chinese Or Japanese Writing On It ... & Was Purchased Many Moon Ago ... From An All Woman's Company ... "Futon's Unfolding" ... That No Longer Is In Business !!

too bad all that water and mold damage to the books and materials.

**Yes Indeed !! ... Thankfully Most Of These Things ... Can Be Replaced !!

ST what are you going to do with all the materials when your
beamed up?

**Well From What I Understand ... They Will Be Placed In The "Cargo Hold" ... To Which I Will Have Access To Them ... When I Desire !! ... As To What Will Happen After That ... I Don't Know ??

will they go with you and filed away elsewhere?

**As Far As I Know ... Yes ... They Will Go With Me ... To Be Stored For The Moment !!

ST, can or do we as individual energies existing as part of the essence from our many energies and lives have our own place somewhere that we can store many things , like for example on Terra we buy 5 acres of land and store many many things on that land. but there is decay involved on Terra. Is their a place like myself could go to that i could create things for myself to store up, places like my own town and such where i could keep adding to that will never get damaged or decayed that i could always go back to like when i leave this form?

**It Is Possible ... That Such A Place/Places Exist ... And/Or ... Be Created !!

ST, i've learned alot from you and thanks, the more i think
about it and with all the books you collect and the types of books and your positive attitude and with all your abilities i'd say you're out of the ordinary in a terrestrial termed good way.

**Well We Hope ... "Out Of The Ordinary" ... In An "ET Way" Too !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

cause alot of the people i come across are just boring everyday people

**They Just Need To Change ... Their "Drill Bits" More Often !! ... As Drill Bits Do Wear Down !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

it seems that just focused on terrestrial affairs and have a total disrespect for other beings other then their fellow beings with similar features to themselves. a total disrespect and misunderstanding towards other lifeforms which is unfortunate. we as a specie have totally lost and forgotten all connections to who or what we are. i am deeply saddened on what has transpired on Earth.

**Yes ... It Is A Sad State Of Affairs There !!

I find it difficult at times to feel joy and happiness cause you always have those people that feed off that with their negative energy cause their having a bad day or are jealous of you. and with all the misunderstanding and paranoia runs rampant cause some people think other people are talking about them in a disrespectful way and the opposite could be true, its getting very painful on Terra.

**Yes ... We Know !!

ST for a very long time before i found this thread i thought
there has to be more to life than this. i was researching i believe obe and nde's out of body state, but at first i think i researched on looking for visions of the future then i come across some near death experience accounts
to find out what's the after time like, then i tried figuring out what the future holds, but anyways i don't remember how it all started but part of it was due to Earth changing events and what the future could hold and that's
how, well what can i say i met Nancy from blog talk radio website or something of that nature 'spelling'??

**Hmmm !!!

I've had a couple out of body state as you know. many flying
dreams and other events, like i said before i wouldn't be surprised one bit if i had lifetimes as flying beings as i would dream all the time when i was a young child of flying, all the time.

**Could Be !!

ST with your mysteriousness your kind of like on the show Wizard Of Oz, the mystery man behind the curtain who does finally get seen accidentally hehehehe by the Dorthy Tin Man Lion and Scare Crow.

**We Do Tend To Give ... That Impression !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Its a good mysteriousness but i believe i will be very grateful once i meet you 's and maybe i could travel back on the dial to see some of how you 's typed through the conduit and see how the translation matrix worked like your
doing now because its a curiosity as i'm a very curious being.

**OH Yes !! ... You Are Most Curious !!!

Well ST, you take care and hope you stay well.

**Thank You !! ... We Have Trained "Well" To Stay !! ... Now If "Well" Would Only Sit Up !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

well ST i think the surprises you're going to receive have to do with the Pole Shift or being beamed up

**It's Possible !!!

if that's the case yikes, it will be a welcoming surprise to you but not to the peoples that are left to fight for their survival which will be fruitless anyways as all beings on surface will perish.

**Yep ... That Is Pretty Much The Case !!!

Again take care my friend

You Too !!

and hope to hear from you soon.

And "Soon" Will Hear From You !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

now where is that Chinese man, hehehehe,

Oh You Mean ... The Chinese Woman ... Vera R.(ee) Soon !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Wispy , do you have yahoo messenger? I do, i have all kinds of different friends on there.

**Oh You Have This Too ?? ... ICQ ... Was Giving The Conduit "Rat Fits" ... Not A Pretty Sight !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... So Switched Over To This !! ... Usually Have Both ICQ & Yahoo Messenger Up ... At Same Moment ... But Very Seldom ... Things Coming In ... On ICQ Anymore !!
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ST, have a pineapple slurpy ....

**Wish We Could !! ... But The Acid Would Really ... Set Things Off ... With What Is Bothering Me Right Now !! ... On The ... "Soft Foods/Liquid Diet" ... Until Things Heal !! ... Or As They Said In The Gangster Days ... "Put
Em' On Ice" !! ... To Which I Am Taking That Literally !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

take the night off and rest up and relax.... you deserve it for all the hard work you do....

**Oh Yes & Thank You For The Suggestion !! ... "Mud Coating" Is Done In Closet !! ... Now Just Waiting For Maintenance Man ... To Look This Over On Tuesday ... To See If He Can Wet Sand This ... Level It Off ... & Paint !!
... Then The Shelf Supports Need To Be Refastened & Resecured ... & Remount The Long Shelf ... Then It Is Done !! ... After This ... Comes My Work ... Of Going Through The Boxes In The Room ... Opening Them All Up Again ... This Time Documenting/Recording What I Have ... Putting Everything In Plastic ... Then Resealing & Stacking !! ... Also As Extra Precaution ... Draping Boxes With Plastic Bags ... Just In Case !!!

**So Perhaps 1 Or 2 Days Yet ?? ... Of Sleeping On Floor ... & Getting Up Early ... To Get Around ... Get Thing Ready ... For The Maintenance Man To Come !! ... To Which He Might Arrive ... As Soon As 9:00 A.M. !!
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ST, is your email not excepting emails to get sent?

**As Far As We Know ... It Is Accepting E-Mails !! ... Do You Have A New E-Mail Address ... With The New ... Internet Provider ???

I tried sending 1 but it rejected it.

**Hmmmm ????

Maybe its that we are now connected to a new internet provider that my old email address cannot send from.

**Yes ... There Could Be Some Configuration Problems ... If You Are Now Connecting ... Through A New Internet Service Provider !!
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ST i would just like you to know my yahoo messenger is bfavreforprez.

**Thank You Josh !! ... Not There Yet ... Still Doing Postings ... But Afterwhile ... Will Fire It Up !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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ST , i've always sort of felt a being out of place, not totally comfortable in my own skin. being inside myself without seeing myself and just others unless looking through a mirror.

why would this be?

**Well ... The Terrestrial Body ... Is A Temporary Container ... To Exist In On Terra/Earth !! ... Perhaps Of Where You Came From ... You Were Used To ... Another Body/Form !!

a sense of not belonging and a uneasiness of life.

**Yes ... We Understand !!

what do you think ST?

**As We Have Stated !!
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ST i've prob had like 20 surgeries drugged with anesthesia and such to be put to sleep during those surgeries, and had many when i was a little baby.

**Hmmmm !!!

could that be why i at times feel like can't remember or think properly when trying to memorize things that i read or such?

**No ... It Is Because ... The Very System ... The Learning Processes ... As Taught ... Is A Garbled Mess !!! ... The Very Print Style/Pattern On Paper ... Is An Act Of Hurting/Harming The Optics !! ... It Is No Wonder Individuals Have Difficulties Remembering/Retaining ... Such Informations !!

And why i forget where i put items at times and other things, and sometimes forget meanings of words and have to look them up and study much much harder to remember things?

**Of This ... It May Be Of A Relationship !! ... But Based However ... On Your Volunteering To Come To Terra/Earth !! ... Of This ... To Learn ... To Experience ... Of Where You Were ... It Is Much Different There ... Then Of That Other Body ... Other Place ... Where You Came From !!

Thanks, Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

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Hi ST In BG, team and dear Paschats,

I hope all of you are as well as possible.

**We Are !! ... The Conduit Is Having Some "Flare-ups" Again ... To Which Is Being Attended To !!

Can you tell us a bit more about our changing sun (Sol).

**What Is It ... You Want To Know ??

You have said that it is phasing into an orange red...

**Into An Orange To Red State ... This Is Correct !!

however.. what we have clearly seen is that it has gone from
yellow/golden, to bright white.

**Yes ... Do To The Proximity Of Nibiru ... Of It's Interactions !!

Does he shine for a while at bright white and then fizzle out to orange? what can we look for or expect???

**When You Achieve 4th Density ... Of The Other Dimension ... Other Place In Space ... You Will Perceive The Star/Sun ... You Name "Sol" ... In The Orange - Red Stage/State !!

It's difficult down here...we try to look for "signs". However, often, our skies are filtered with a cloud cover...I have not seen the moon in months...

**Things Have Been ... "Clouded Over" There !!!

nor are stars...or other celestial objects visible as there is such a dense cloud cover.

**Hmmmm !!!

We don't usually get to see the sun or a blue sky
either, but for the time being, we do...yea.... so, now that I can see the sun... it is shining very white and bright...

**Hmmmm !!!

If you could say a bit about what is happening, or what we could look for it would be appreciated.

**Well ... There Is "Interaction" Happening ... Between Bodies ... Between Forces ... This Is Causing The Effects ... The Perceptions You See There !!

Sincerely, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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ST in BG,

If Nibiru is capable of doing a "stall" in its motion, which it has apparently done (according to you) over the last couple years, why would TPTB even consider it a planet (seeing that it doesn't behave like a planet). I don't understand why they are so scared by something that is cloaked and behaves like an intelligent spacecraft. Why should they simply believe someone like you explaining this anomalous activity since it matches nothing they already know? Why spend billions on safe underground bunkers if you are absolutely clueless as to what will transpire? You are probably the only voice here on Terra talking about the "cloaking" effect, and spaceship flight capabilities. This kind of thing would not make sense to establishment scientists.

Most of them probably no longer believe that Nibiru will ever come, especially given Lieder's and Hazelwood's failed predictions.
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correction:

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Why spend billions on safe underground bunkers if they are absolutely clueless as to what will transpire?

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Hi ST,

Can you please tell us if Bin Laden was real or is real?

**Was A Living Being ... Since Deceased ... As We Understand !! ... Though The Use Of This Person ... As A Scapegoat ... Continues On !!

I have done a degree in politics and had never come across Al Quaeda group until 911?

**Well It's A "Made Up Invention" !!

The BBC made a documentary, that states that the
group has been made up by the CIA ?

**Yes ... And Others ... That Are Participating ... Of Various "Letter Agencies" !!

The reason I ask is that the news states that another warning has been given by Bin Laden who no one can vouch for?

**Must Be Giving These ... From The Grave ???

All his pictures look different and a new one released looks like another actor?

**Just Certain Ones Attempts ... To Play On The Fears Of Others ... By Continuing This "Stage Play" ... Where The Actors Are Hired ... & Play Their Roles !!

Do you think another false flag is being planned and the people are being prepared for this?

**Who Knows ?? ... Even They Do Not Know !!

Did any other ET's get involved in creating the human container apart from Enki who was the main creator?

**Oh Indeed !! ... As The Terrestrial Body ... Is A Composite Being ... Made Up Of The Contributions Of Many ET Beings !!

Do we look like the Anunnaki or are we different?

**You Are Different !!

How different?

**Different !!

Were the Anunnaki also in India and started the Indus
civilization?

**They Were In India ... Though As To Starting The ... "Indus Valley Civilization" ... That Is Not Known !!

Was Guru Nanak an Anunnaki ?

**Don't Know !!

Please do not say you do not know him?

**Okey We Won't !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

He was a great teacher in India.

**Okey Dokey !!

What do you think of the books on Anastasia by V. Magre?

**Don't Know !!

It was those books that have helped us to seek a life in the country with nature and feel part of it. Even if many think that she is not real (I feel she is a real ET being), she has inspired millions.

**Hmmm !!!

Do you think that it is our duty to inform everyone about Nibiru or are we violating free will?

**It Is Of Those ... Who Have Volunteered ... Who Are To Do This !!

Is it not time for you and the elders to reveal more to humans about what is happening?

**Not At The Moment !!

We really want the TPTB to be defeated and really
shown up for what they are.

**Things Will Happen !!

Is the present situation being allowed to be so bad for us, the energies, that you and the elders are going to choose who is to be taken to the 4th density?

**Of Such Picking/Choosing ... That Has Already Been Done !!!

Certainly, the negative is being completely "uuuuppped"

**Not Negative Or Positive !!

Can you please explain about the chakras and how they work in terms of energy and trying to awaken our energy?

**No We Cannot !!

Thank you in advance for being around.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

You are so much appreciated

**Thank You !!

Farewell!
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Hi ST,

Just a few more questions

What can you tell us about the third eye?

**It Is One More Eye ... Then 2 Eyes !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!! ... Siriusly Though ... It Is Said Of This ... To Allow Greater Access/Knowledge !!

At the moment and when I was young, I always got a pulling feeling on the third eye. Also the inner sound has got louder?

**Hmmmm !!!

Thank you again

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Contrary to ST, I would say that Tom Brady IS as good as he looks when it comes to the game of football...
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Hi ST in BG, im wondering why i hate this planet..well not the planet but i cant stand the way this civalization is. Im just a normal everyday guy, but i hate it here. I keep hoping for something really big to happen that will change the way things are on this planet. If i could leave here i would...Ive even thought about taking my own life just to get out. why is this so deep within me ? i feel like this place doesnt make any sence..nothing is right. thanks in advance
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New comments from Josh with a ****


ST, i've learned alot from you and thanks, the more i think
about it and with all the books you collect and the types of books and your positive attitude and with all your abilities i'd say you're out of the ordinary in a terrestrial termed good way.

**Well We Hope ... "Out Of The Ordinary" ... In An "ET Way" Too !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

****Yes in an et way also , hehehe, as i' havent to my awareness come across someone in this form with so many connections to the many beings and in an honest and truthfull/respectfull way.

cause alot of the people i come across are just boring everyday people

**They Just Need To Change ... Their "Drill Bits" More Often !! ... As Drill Bits Do Wear Down !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

****lol



ST with your mysteriousness your kind of like on the show Wizard Of Oz, the mystery man behind the curtain who does finally get seen accidentally hehehehe by the Dorthy Tin Man Lion and Scare Crow.

**We Do Tend To Give ... That Impression !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

****LOL


and hope to hear from you soon.

And "Soon" Will Hear From You !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

now where is that Chinese man, hehehehe,

Oh You Mean ... The Chinese Woman ... Vera R.(ee) Soon !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

****OH a woman, i must have forgot, hehehehe.

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Wispy , do you have yahoo messenger? I do, i have all kinds of different friends on there.

**Oh You Have This Too ?? ... ICQ ... Was Giving The Conduit "Rat Fits" ... Not A Pretty Sight !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... So Switched Over To This !! ... Usually Have Both ICQ & Yahoo Messenger Up ... At Same Moment ... But Very Seldom ... Things Coming In ... On ICQ Anymore !!

****Oh yes i have yahoo messenger chat account where can go to chat room and have a friends list to type instant messages.

ST, have a pineapple slurpy ....

**Wish We Could !! ... But The Acid Would Really ... Set Things Off ... With What Is Bothering Me Right Now !! ... On The ... "Soft Foods/Liquid Diet" ... Until Things Heal !! ... Or As They Said In The Gangster Days ... "Put
Em' On Ice" !! ... To Which I Am Taking That Literally !!! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

****OH hehehehe.

take the night off and rest up and relax.... you deserve it for all the hard work you do....

**Oh Yes & Thank You For The Suggestion !! ... "Mud Coating" Is Done In Closet !! ... Now Just Waiting For Maintenance Man ... To Look This Over On Tuesday ... To See If He Can Wet Sand This ... Level It Off ... & Paint !!
... Then The Shelf Supports Need To Be Refastened & Resecured ... & Remount The Long Shelf ... Then It Is Done !! ... After This ... Comes My Work ... Of Going Through The Boxes In The Room ... Opening Them All Up Again ... This Time Documenting/Recording What I Have ... Putting Everything In Plastic ... Then Resealing & Stacking !! ... Also As Extra Precaution ... Draping Boxes With Plastic Bags ... Just In Case !!!

**So Perhaps 1 Or 2 Days Yet ?? ... Of Sleeping On Floor ... & Getting Up Early ... To Get Around ... Get Thing Ready ... For The Maintenance Man To Come !! ... To Which He Might Arrive ... As Soon As 9:00 A.M. !!

****OH yes that is soon. hope everything goes well.

ST, is your email not excepting emails to get sent?

**As Far As We Know ... It Is Accepting E-Mails !! ... Do You Have A New E-Mail Address ... With The New ... Internet Provider ???

****No actually i do not, my computer is connected through a cable to my folks computer , just to get internet access their is a dual cable / port connection , so they don't have dish networks email and niether do i , i still have the other one which i got all my contacts and emails saved on their so if i ever get back with them if i move out to my own place again i will access that one, so i saved it on file. i have email through yahoo though.

I tried sending 1 but it rejected it.

**Hmmmm ????

Maybe its that we are now connected to a new internet provider that my old email address cannot send from.

**Yes ... There Could Be Some Configuration Problems ... If You Are Now Connecting ... Through A New Internet Service Provider !!

****Yes i think so also.

ST i would just like you to know my yahoo messenger is bfavreforprez.

**Thank You Josh !! ... Not There Yet ... Still Doing Postings ... But Afterwhile ... Will Fire It Up !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

****Oh i'm online right now on messenger that would be neat if you could add me as a friend on your friends list.

Thanks for reading, Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

Farewell for now ST
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You did not specify in which fields these surprises will be, can you be more precise ?

**We Did Not Specify ... Of The Surprises !! ... Along With This ... We Feel ... This Was More ... A Personal Comment ... To The Conduit !!

Where will these surprises be ? ... And my last question : when ??

**See Previous Response !!
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What's wrong with the sun ???

Thread Title: The Sun is changing dramatically....

Thread: The Sun is changing dramatically....

Here are the scientific FACTS...

1. Livingston-Penn observations that the magnetic strength
of the sunspots irrespective of their amount has linearly
declined since at least 1990 leading the spots vanishing in 2014 or 2015 if the trend continues.

2. A 50-year low in solar wind pressure: Measurements by the
Ulysses spacecraft reveal a 20% drop in solar wind pressure since the mid-1990's.

3. A 12 year low in solar irradiance: the sun's brightness has dropped a whopping 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996.

4. A 55-year low in solar radio wavelengths. The lessening of radio emissions seems to be an indication of weakness in the sun's global magnetic field.

5. The all-time low (since Maunder minimum) of Gleissberg cycle in 2005 (72 Years).

6. Ap Index very low.

7. TSI

(Total Solar Irradiance) at its lowest since satellite
observations began in 1979 (1365 Watts)".

**Thank You For The Link/Information !! ... Most Curious !!

Farewell For Now !!

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Contrary to ST, I would say that Tom Brady IS as good as he looks when it comes to the game of football...
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Well the pats didnt wake up untill like 5 minutes left in the 4th and miracurously started doing things differently that they didnt do all game from what i understand the announcers to say and they scored a touchdown, then kicked an onside kick and the patriot ripped the ball out of one of the bills hands and got the ball and then scored another touchdown to win 25 to 24. wait for ST to give his 2 cents on this, hehehehe.
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ST , you have yahoo msgr ? if so may i add you ?
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ST, What can you tell me about twin-souls? do they even exist?
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Yes Josh, I have Yahoo. But I do not know if the messenger will work on this computer. It is 98/SE/ME program. My hotmail does not work anymore. But I am FallenStarMeteorites@yahoo.com

Wispy
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yeah might not want to risk to many programs on your computer cause if you do and its a old computer it will slow down your computer very very much that is why i don't download games or play computer games on my computer, now that i think about it, when i watch youtube video's usually it pauses alot the first time through then works good but now it seems to work all the way through so i'm assuming it has something to do with dish network internet provider, so far i would recomend it but then again you might have to get dish network satelite as well but i'm not sure on that. i'd have to ask or research it. ok so you have a yahoo email also, ok TN. i have yahoo email account that i can use from any computer.
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Well wispy i was looking forward to ST responding to your posts but maybe he's busy or having computer trouble.
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I also envy the dead.

It's just the actual dying part that isn't so fun.

**We Understand !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Hey St???can the inside of the mirror...be considered another dimension???
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ST..

Some really strange things happened today. (Monday: September 14, 2009)

**Oh It Did ??

Like a time shift or something. Really weird.

**Hmmm !!!
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Just saw this. Interesting..

New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe

Thread: New Theory Nixes "Dark Energy": Says Time is Disappearing from the Universe


New evidence is suggesting that time is slowly disappearing from our universe, and will one day vanish completely. This radical new theory may explain a cosmological mystery that has baffled scientists for years.

**They Are STILL Baffled ... As They Do Not Understand "Time" !!

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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hey ST, did TPTB create AIDs and use it as a form of control? If they did can you tell me what they hoped to achieve from it?
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Greetings ST..

Yes .. it wasa a strange day.

When hubby left for work, he said that Scooter was still outside. Did not see Scooter until later. Much later. He was sitting on the monitor, with a tuft of furr in his mouth. O pulled it out and it fell on the table.

Berta wanted to go out, so I opened the door to let her outside. Scooter runs into the house.

I looked back to see who was on the monitor. No one. I walked back to the computer table and the tuft of hair that I took from Scooter sitting there on the monitor... was still lying on the table.

Scooter did not go past me to go outside when I let Berta out. Scooter came from behind the door outside.. to Inside.

The second strange thing was this. I had a piece of wood veneer on my pine dresser. It split a while back and I took it off by accident. I replaced it in its spot until I could get some wood glue. There is a lot of heavy stuff sitting on it to keep it in place.

As I was standing at the computer table looking at the tuft of fur, I noticed this piece of veneer sitting at the side of the dresser. None of the items which had been sitting on it had been moved. I replaced the veneer strip as it had been and then tried to pull it out. I could not without flipping everything over. No one pulled it out. This occurred at the same time of the Scooter incident.

Weird huh??

THe Telestrator message today was slow spinning spirals ( like an open 9 ). The were moving across the screen from west to east.

Today just felt weird. The wind was blowing outside and it felt like rain or storm. None ever happened..Even the sunlight was funny. But the whole effect was kind of other worldly. I cannot explain it.

Could any of these weird things have to do with the ???? in the back ?

Wispy
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Contrary to ST, I would say that Tom Brady IS as good as he looks when it comes to the game of football...


Well the pats didnt wake up untill like 5 minutes left in the 4th and miracurously started doing things differently that they didnt do all game from what i understand the announcers to say and they scored a touchdown, then kicked an onside kick and the patriot ripped the ball out of one of the bills hands and got the ball and then scored another touchdown to win 25 to 24. wait for ST to give his 2 cents on this, hehehehe.
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my wrong was a regular kickoff then stripped the ball away from the bill with 2 06 left as i seen the highlight now.
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St?? i told you my dream and you go ....hmmm!!! i got this you beaut..ripper..no jokes...real as if im here right now...(lots to be said for that)...Dream..and im scared...afta i type it all...(usually so much duress involved when i wanna get something typed)...your gonna go...hhhmmmmmm!!!! wot about that????
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**Such Unity Would Not Have Happened Immediately ... Though ... It Would Have Happened !! ... With Or Without Interference !! ... Though Of ... "Those Of Rome" ... Of Devious Means ... They Saw An Advantage ... A "Weakness" ... Of The People Of Those Times ... & Contrived To Take Advantage Of This Weakness ... By "Creating A Character Of Their Own" ... That Matched The Departed Apollonius Of Tyana ... In Which The People Still
Bemoaned !! ... This Was Using That "Fan Base" To Their Advantage ... A Con ... "Bait & Switch" .... In Which Those People Were Sold ... "A Bill Of Goods" ... (A Falseness Without Substance) ... In Which Blinded By Their Needs ... Their Hopes & Passions ... Others Took Advantage Of ... To
Manipulate & Control !!

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Perhaps, a superficial temporary peace...yes. But I don't agree that a lasting unity would have happened if not for a devious bunch from Rome. The "Weakness", which you refer to, exploited itself...those in Rome were simply in the best position to take advantage of it first. If not for those in Rome, eventually it would have been exploited by someone/s within the warring parties who were so positively effected by the presence of Appolonius. If not the story of Appolonius, something else would have been concocted to act as a dividing catalyst between the people. That is the nature of ego, not understood.

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