++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++

Dear Whispy,
I know the saddness you feel, I have felt that way for a very long time..the sadness that I feel for others...mainly others who are not aware and may not have treated a loved one as well as they might have...and didn't know..it may be their last opportunity to express their love, and gratitude. I guess it's sadness for all the unawarenesses... I realize that there are those who have chosen to go through the experiences and difficulties that they are going through, so that they can learn, and others can learn from them...it is often sad to see that as well. I have eaten my "last meal" often this past year, and visted many places for the last time, said goodbye to many places and yet...nothing too much has happened yet, and so I have also said goodbye to the sadness, as it seems to be a rather heavy cloud that I don't enjoy wearing. I have chosen to wear compassion and allowance instead...feels better... All I can suggest is to "shine" as much understanding and compassion to others, and appreciate and express such. I am thankful for all that you have been going through and sharing with us

Dear ST, Conduit, Team, Truth 2 and Paschats... I will not be able to be online for a while, we must leave this area for a few weeks as it becomes unpleasant at this time of the year.... there are so many fireworks going off...since Dec. 5th...it ets worse each day and our dog is terrified. This gets us angry at the foolishness and waste and inconsideration that is here...so rather than be so upset and angry, we leave the area and go somewhere that is pleasant... it is not our favorite time for a vacation...but we will go south and hopefully find a bit of warmth and sunny weather. AS we will be camping in nature, I will not be able be online to communicate with you all, or the rest of the world, but perhaps that is better, we will be in nature, communicating with Nature. We will be back, shortly after the New Year (Jan.1 in 3 D). I wish all the very best of luck during tis time, I care about all f you and hope that you fare well. I think that "going with the flow" rather than being upset and resisting might be a useful tactic. In any case, I send each and all much love, compassion, fortitude of endurance and some humor to help tolerate.
With much love, see you all somewhere, sometime Sincerely, Silent Companion

Dear ST in BG, Conduit, Team, Paschats and all.. and Al, :-)
I posted a bit before I was done...
I wanted o say once again...thank you..for your answers, insights information, and ornery humor.
Sincerely, Silent Companion

Take Care Silent C..

((Hugs))

Wispy

S who C

I have water stored and extra food. And alternate heating. But really.. there is nowhere to go. If so.. just temporary. My visions show utter devastation. Take care.

((HUGS))

Wispy

Thank you Wispy for sharing your visions. True - there really is no where to go, we are all "going", it's just a matter of time, and it is short. Do you get any visions of a "stasis" event? ST has mentioned it before but in short. Do you "see" the new world when it manifests in 4d?

Thanks much,

Canundrum

Hello Canundrum..

I have not seen that as of yet. ( stasis)...

((hugs))

Wispy

you came halfway across the Universe to get the seed?/....




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Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 12394

**In Response To: S who C.. I.D. 575213 ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

This world is ending.

**Yes ... That "Reality" Is Ending !! ... Though Not The Planet Itself !! ... Although After The Passage(s) ... In 3rd Density ... Terra/Earth ... Will Be Lifeless !!

The Hopi prophesy said that when the sky turns red, there
is no turning around. Today.. the message was red.

**Oh Yes Indeed !! ... The Message Was Indeed ... "Red" !! ... Crimson Red ... One Might Even Say ... "Blood Red" !!
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I know Josh ((hugs)).

But for us it is ending. There is no changing of the course now.

**Indeed !! ... These Things ... Will All Occur !! ... Will All Happen !!
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(Of The Visions) I just call them like I see them. No I do not know.

**Yes Indeed !!! ... And You Are Doing Fine In This !! ... In Presenting The Informations ... & In The Interpretations !!

Other than I see them in the daytime now. Why the urgency?

**Because Things Are On ... An "Uptick" ... Are Accelerating !!!

Sometimes I do not even want to report them. But it seems to be my job to do so.

**It Is An Honor & Responsibility ... To Relate These !! ... Just As It Is ... For The Conduit ... Of Presenting Of Those Things ... Given To Him !!
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S who C..

I think there must be a gag order so that they cannot come out and say what is to happen. Therefore, with subterfuge( the reed screen) so to speak, they can send visions or messages which we ask questions about and then they can elaborate on it. But to come out and say it.. they cannot.

**In A Way ... You Are Most Accurate In This !! ... In Your Thoughts ... To A "Gag Order"

To answer some of your questions would take more time and energy than ST may have to give or spend. So he gives what he can.

**Yes ... While Our Energies May Be Considered "Boundless" ... Of Others ... That Can Take Over ... The Communications Station ... If That Being(s)
... Are Needed Elsewhere ... The Conduit Has Limitations On Energies ... & Of "Other Responsibilities" .. Both Here ... & Of Needs ... On Terra/Earth ... While He Animates That Form/Body !!

Like you.. I would like hard proofs that you can put under a microscope. But it isn't gonna be that way.

**It Is True !! ... This Is Not How .. We Can Give Of These Things !! ... Consider Too ... That The Conduit ... Also Is From ... Of Many "Scientific Lifetimes" ... So He Too At Times ... Can Be Most Frustrated !! ... Though
Of His Lessons ... He Had To Get Used To The Fact ... That This Is HOW ... Things Were Going To Be !! ... To Accept ... This Is How The Informations Would Be Given ... Would Be Presented !!

I have seen what I have seen so I can believe.

**Indeed !! ... For Ourselves ... Seeing IS Believing !!!

If you have never seen, then I understand your caution. Is he real or someone playing a cruel trick?

**Yes ... If Ones Had Never Seen ... Then It Is Difficult ... To "Throw All Cautions To The Wind" ... & Simply Accept !!

Well the images I see are NOT a trick. They are real.

**Very Very VERY Real !!!

I do not know what to tell you other than to believe that ETs exist. They do.

**Yes ... We Really Do !!! ... ("Poking Ourselves") ... Yep ... We Exist !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!
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Daylight? Yes. Twice now. This morning a little after noon and once a couple of days ago @ 2 pm and @ 6 PM.

**It Means ... Of The Visions Coming In The Daylight Too ... That Things Have Accelerated ... The Approach Has Been Accelerated !! ... There Has Been ... An "Uptick" ... A Speeding Up Of Things !!

I am serious. Serious as a heart attack as a friend says.

**Oh Indeed !!! ... Very Very VERY Serious !!!

I am awake when I see them... not sleeping. In fact.. if I am sleeping, they do something to wake me.

**Yes ... We Do Give You ... "A Wakeup Call" ... When The "Main Feature" Is Being Shown !! ... Of Course ... We Had To Skip By ... "The Cartoons" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!
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S who C

I have water stored and extra food. And alternate heating. But really.. there is nowhere to go.

**Yes ... Even With The "Best Of Preparations" ... Indeed ... There Is ... (At Least On The Planet's Surface) ... Nowhere To Go !!

If so.. just temporary.

**Yes !!! ... Temporary ... On The Planet's Surface !!

My visions show utter devastation.

**Yes Of Both Our "Visions" ... That Is What Is Being Show ... What Is Being Said !!

((hugs))

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Wispy as to the world ending, Nope...No...Nada... ST will tell you the same,

**As Stated In Our Response !!

but as to humans, they will be NO MORE in that form residing to 3rd density according to ST In BG,

**This Is True !!

The world will be cleansed and purified and changed and rearranged but will NOT END....

**Yes ... And A New World ... A Purified/Cleansed World ... Will Be Born !!
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Yes to wispy that just cause your having strong visions now at this current time does NOT mean the changes are so imminent,

**It Does Not Mean Josh ... That Of What Is Being Seen ... Is Not Imminent !! ... As There Is ... One Might Say ... An Urgency ... Of Giving Of These Visions !! ... And Now ... More Of An "Uptick" ... Of These Being Given ... During The Day ... As Well !!

let me give a example, ST was having strong conversations and visions in the year 2006 which is documented in this thread without dates and times and you also have without dates or times when these events will actually occur, so it is still speculation at this point as to when these changes will manifest themselves as to when ,

**Yes ... However Josh ... One Cannot Compare ... Apples To Oranges !! ... In This We Are Saying ... By Attempting To Compare "Times, Days, Dates" ... Estimates ... Of What We Have Been Given ... To What ... NightWisp Has Been
Given ... In Attempt To Quelch Ones Own "Fears Of Changes" ... This Unfortunately Will Not Work !! ... As Perhaps We (The Conduit) ... Were Given These Things ... These Visions ... As "Phase One" !! ... Whereas ... Nightwisp's Visions ... Are "Phase Two" ... And Perhaps "Phase Three" ... Is The Actual Culmination ... The Actual Happenings & Events Themselves !!!

don't know but i know that its all speculation at this point whether or not the changes will manifest themselves anytime soon.

**Until The Events Happen ... Until They Manifest ... This Will All Be Considered "Gusstimates" ... And "Speculation" !! ... However ... When These Do Happen ... When They Do Occur ... Then ... It Will Be ... Too Late ... In The Thought/Attempt ... Of Preparing ... In The Way/Desire ... That Ones Choose !!

Take care,

You Too !!

Josh.

Farewell For Now !!

P.S. ... A Return E-Mail Was Sent !! ... But Please Wait For "Safe Conditions" ... If You Are Desiring To Go There ... To Look At It !! ... It Is Not Worth ... Risking "Life & Limb" ... When There Are Hazardous
Conditions ... All To View An E-Mail !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 575213

**In Response To: NightWisp .. With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

I read your stuff..

+ You mean about the questions on Earth´s tilt and movements? Thanks a lot. Isn´t this interesting? I had to acknowledge that for the later parts i was mostly inspired through ST communications on this thread, and still wonder about such amazing possibilities.

**We Our Honored ... That We Have Inspired !!

and umm... well.I do not really know where you are coming from sometimes. But all the high faluting words you use are beyond many. If they do not understand what you are saying, how can you expect a reaction. Sometimes I think you believe ST and other times.. I think you are
pandering.

+ Oh, perhaps i am not a good science communicator or i
sometimes just don´t find the words. Sorry. You know what Wispy? You are just describing what i sometimes feel regarding ST, do you perceive it? It is like if there is something real coming on/being communicated in a very
limited way of course... but nowhere else i had tasted many of the ideas being exposed here on this board and particularly on this thread. This is what makes the thread so interesting/intriguing i thought, although i also
perceive swampyness and perhaps this is sometimes like... disinformation, as "one" quoted... but there is much more than this, there are those ideas
being suggested!

**A Main Problem IS .. In Expressing/Describing ... What Is Being Seen ... In Concepts ... In Words ... That One Is Familiar With !! ... For Instance ... While One Would Be Of "Scientific Background" ... & Desire To Have
Such Happenings ... Presented In A "Scientific Description/Format" ... While The Others Of That Lifetime ... Are Only Being Allowed ... To Express Such Visions ... Of What Are Being Seen/Felt ... In More "Layman's Language" !! ... So That Right There ... Can Be ... A BIG Communications Gap !!... And A Main Source ... Of What You Term ... Of Our "Swampyness" !!

Don't mean to be harsh. I just do not know what you want. This world is ending. The Hopi prophesy said that when the sky turns red, there is no turning around. Today.. the message was red.

+ I Understood, no problem. Just that i perceive things in a different way and do not trust in prophecies but in hard proofs Wispy.

**In Can Be Most Difficult !! ... As Even The Termed: "Hopi" ... Of Your "Today" ... Do Not Understand ... Do Not Fully Understand ... Their Own
Prophecies !! ... Nor Do They Understand Know ... From Where Their Ancestors/Ancient Ancestors ... Had Come From !! ... (Which Is Not Of Terra/Earth !! ... But Perhaps Mazar/Mars !! ... Or Even Further Away !!) ... This Is The Plight With Others ... That Are Termed: "Indians", "Native Americans", "Indigenous Americans" ... That They Have Lost (Or Perhaps Have
Never Really Known/Been Taught/Told ... Of Their Ancient Of Peoples !!

However, why do you think that the sky is red? Just because your dream/vision?

**The Presence Of ... Well ... You Know !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

I do not think the world is going to end, we just do not know exactly what could happens and i doubt others know... i mean, know in a very detailed and accurate way,

**We Know !! ... And We Have Shown The Conduit ... Of What Will Transpire !!

for sure there are those other intelligent beings (perhaps plenty of species?)

**Many Many Many ++++ ... Beyond What You Might Conceive !! ... Even Of Those ... Who Share The Planet With You ... Though They Are Not Well Known !!

who know much more than what we currently knew.

**Know Way Beyond ... What Those In Terrestrial Forms Know !!

Would we get in real trouble? Well, i think we already have large troubles.

**Many Are The Troubles On That Planet !! ... And Many Of These Things ... Were Of Natures ... Caused Artificial & Natural ... Of Which We Have "Stepped In" ... & Prevented Disaster From Manifesting !!

Would we get in unbearable/extinction implying troubles?

**Of What Has Been Shown ... After The Passages ... Of 3rd Density ... There Will Be No Life On Terra/Earth !! ... The Planet Will Go Into A "Rest Period" ... Later To Be ... Re-Terraformed ... At A "Later Moment" !!

I do not know, but perhaps in the future... so we have to do the best we can with the best we have, what else could be done? Live a happy creative life as best as possible and contribute to create a world of truth, justice, comprehension, knowledge, tolerance, real sustainability... and if there are identified challenges, try to cope with what they imply...

**Indeed ... Try To Do What One Can ... With What One Has !!

Quite curious.

**Curiosity ... Is What We Have In Common ... As Living Beings ... Species/Individuals !! ... It Is That ... Which Is An Excitement !!
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Wispy,

You receive such messages even on daylight? Are you really
serious about that?

**Yes She Is !! ... Very Very Serious !! ... How Do We Know ?? ... "WE" Are Ones ... Who Give Of The Informations ... The Visions !!

Are you preparing in some way for what you said you sense is going to happen?

Had you considered the possibility of ideas/things exposed
on this thread being an exaggeration of some actually real things... perhaps in order to make them look silly and improbable, to undermine most people having a glance on such ideas?

**This Is NOT ... How Things Are !! ... It Is Not ... Of Some Jest ... Some Joke !! ... Of What Has Been Shown By "We" ... Of What Has Been Expressed ... By NightWisp, ST In BG ... & By Others ... This Is All Quite Real ... Of The Happenings ... Of The Changes To Be ... In That Frame ... Of What Is Coming !!

I wonder about that too. Something might be indeed expected, perhaps, by informed ones with power and resources.

**Somethings Indeed ... Are Expected !! ... And There Are Those On Terra/Earth ... That Know Enough ... To Be Quiet About This !! ... Otherwise ... Of Their "Terrestrial Agreements" ... Adverse Things Could & Would
Transpire !! ... The Public At Large ... (Except Perhaps Of Informations Presented ... By "Sources Considered Debunkable" !!) ... Will Not Be Told !! ... The Understanding Is ... That Releasing Such "News" ... Can Only Bring About ... Greater Harm ... Even Before The Arrival ... The Changes & Events !! ... Of Great & Vast Destructions ... Brought About ... By Madness !! ... So By However The Means ... Until It Is Necessary To Go To Safe Areas ... Control Will Be Maintained ... By Whatever Means Necessary !!

That would explain so much things, and it is hopeful and worrisome at the same time, because of what had been the mismanagements so far and how far we are from the ideals for the better world we need and we might some day have.

**Yes ... The Explanations Are There !! ... Though Of Your Terrestrial Sources ... Unless You Are ... Very Much ... "In The Know" ... & Can Keep Your Mouth Shut .... You Will Not Be Told ... Will Not Be Informed Of These
Things !!

Thanks,

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

Dear ST, Conduit, Team, Truth 2 and Paschats... I will not be able to be online for a while, we must leave this area for a few weeks as it becomes unpleasant at this time of the year.... there are so many fireworks going off...since Dec. 5th...it gets worse each day and our dog is
terrified.

**Oh Craps My Friend !! ... Yes This Would ... Scare The "Doggies" ... Our Of Your Dog !! ... As One Thing ...
That The Conduit Observed ... Having Canine Friends Out In Country Growing Up ... That The Sound ... Hurts Their Ears !! ... Causes Them Distress & Panic !!!

This gets us angry at the foolishness and waste and inconsideration that is here...

**It Is ... Being Very Very Selfish ... & Non-Caring ... To Other Beings/Lifeforms !!! ... & Yes ... Most Foolish & Wasteful ... Not To Mention ... Inconsiderate Of Others !!!

so rather than be so upset and angry, we leave the area and go somewhere that is pleasant... it is not our favorite time for a vacation...but we will go south and hopefully find a bit of warmth and sunny weather.

**Yes Of Course !!! ... And We Hope That All Will Be Well !! ... Of Safety, Security & Happiness !!!

AS we will be camping in nature, I will not be able be online to communicate with you all, or the rest of the world,

**Well You Can Be ... In A "Manner Of Speaking" ... If You Knew How !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

but perhaps that is better, we will be in nature, communicating with Nature.

**Very Very Nice !!

We will be back, shortly after the New Year (Jan.1 in 3 D). I wish all the very best of luck during tis time,

**Yes Indeed !! ... And The Best To You Too !!!

I care about all of you and hope that you fare well.

**Yes Indeed !! ... As We Wish & Hope ... That Your Journey & Times ... Are Safe & Pleasant !!

I think that "going with the flow" rather than being upset and resisting might be a useful tactic.

**Yes ... At Least For The Moment !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

In any case, I send each and all much love, compassion,
fortitude of endurance and some humor to help tolerate.

**But Of Course !! ... And ... Well You Know ... We Will Be Around !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!
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Dear ST in BG, Conduit, Team, Paschats and all.. and Al, :-)

I posted a bit before I was done...

I wanted o say once again...thank you..for your answers,
insights information, and ornery humor

**You Are Very Very Welcome !!

With much love, see you all somewhere, sometime Sincerely,
Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 501151

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Thank you Wispy for sharing your visions.

**Yes Indeed !! ... Thank You !! ... These Are Most Appreciated !!!

True - there really is no where to go, we are all "going", it's just a matter of time, and it is short.

**Yes ... Of Those On Terra/Earth ... Depending ... They Are All ... Going To Leave ... In One Way/Manner Or Another !! ... It Is Just A Matter Of Moments ... Till This Occurs ... Till This Happens !!!

Do you get any visions of a "stasis" event? ST has mentioned it before but in short.

**Stasis Of The Bodies/Forms ... Or To The Planet .. Being Stopped ... Floating In Space ???

Do you "see" the new world when it manifests in 4d?

**We Have !! ... And Ohhhhhhhh So Beautiful !!! ... Has Some Purple To It !! ... Most Likely Do To The Effects ... Of Seeing This ... With The Light ... Of The Blue-White Star ... (Formerly: Planet Jupiter !!)

Thanks much,

You Are Very Welcome !!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

No reply.
Still waiting

Thanks

Because you chose a wrong Nick "EVOL" that choice can bring misinterpretation by many HERE.!

And This has nothing to do with Yourself...! OR maybe you want to put myself in a strange situation LoL....!

AnyWay ...!

Yolgnu.

For Yolgnu

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OH WOW dances

Stellated DoDec's

Thanks.... saving this ONE

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Yolgnu.

I will reply, short, I am not the toilet lady, anymore, for people who do not learn.



No, but the behavior is the same as a virus.

But if it flatters, the behavior is alike that of a swarm of locusts...



Related to be smart. A virus is not dumb too. As any living being on Earth. They are smart in their way of manifestation. I would see many people try to catch a mouse with bare hands. My cats can do it much faster as most humans. So, they are more clever as humans in this regard.

Humankind is not smart. They THINK they make evolution, but they make their own destruction. Lets look to the 'native indians'. They did not build houses in stone, to spoil the Earth. They took from nature, only what they needed. There was silence to sleep, not the noise of cars and jets in the night. There was fresh air, not smog ! There was social life, dances, as there was pleasure with more as one in 'romance'. A male did not have (only) one women, but a few. In this timeframe, many people do cry, inside, to be alone. Sitting in front of many computers and televisions...



No, my cats take one mouse to eat. Afterward, they go to sleep until they are hungry. Humankind keeps to eat, to spoil and to pollute. Only for greed, power and because everybody does do the same.



Science and Technology is not a problem. Extra terrestrial don't come with their (animal) horses through the sky ! Some work with some kind of planes ! Science and technology can perfectly coëxist with a natural environment.
However, you need to think carefully how You make things, such as machines, so they do not pollute or be a danger for nature, humankind, animals, etc. How many animals are killed by cars ? How much air is destroyed ? How many brains are damaged from cell phones ? The wireless hype (keyboard, network, etc) ? Unshielded electric wires ? How many trash is created from items, which are build to throw away after one year ? How much trash is created to bring food to the people. the list goes one.
The problem is, everybody knowns, deep in the heart, it is not OK. Humankind needs to think twice.

They do not have BALANCE with themselves, neither their
brother and sister, neither extra-terrestrials, their living habitat and Universe.



A, there is. You will see. ST is right. I got it some years ago from another 'Channel'. There will be TWO Earth,
two planes of Existance. As I saw years before, in a vision, land rising in the pacific ocean. I was looking to it, discussing the event with others, just looking to it as the 'Greek Gods' do in the movies... As I saw in visions, dark sky and scared people. So those things, I confirm.



If it is not natural, it is artificial.



I repeat. Some extraterrestrial races do manage to live in respect with all those beautiful things, and still, they have amazing technology and science.



That's turning things on the backside.
This is not an excuse to justify things
Humankind does to Earth ! Saying, I will not live healthy because finally we still pass over !

I tell You, if humankind was evolved enough on the Heart Level, maybe there was no need to do transformation as told.



No. Humankind solves the problems in this way. Just like they 'cure' people with medication. They extend life with poisons, but finally the body breaks or the meds became useless because the 'virus, etc' became resistant. Or they did not see on the long term the effect of the meds, so it destroyed the DNA or other things in the body. They handle the results, but they do not alter the cause. Like pollution of the air. They would prefer to sell filters to put in front of Your mouth, a new business...

As there science. Do You known, the first time they initiate a nuke, they were not sure if Earth could stand ?
Some scientist predicted, the nuclear explosion would be a huge reaction, destroying all air from the sky. Same can be told of the LHC. They are so CURIOUS, and to satisfy that, they would prefer to blow up the planet ! A few months ago, they nuked the poles on Earth, to find oil or do other things. THAT's the stupidy of science, who serves greed and curiousity. In very danger way. They bring the life on Earth in danger. Humankind does complain about terrorists. I do not agree with them, but scientist, they are often huge terrorists without responsabillity ! In a high civilization, those people would be locked or put on another planet to do child play...



If You look to the cities, You see rocks. Humankind became back, a caveman anno 2009. Look to the forests. Take a map of the Romans, and count the places with trees. Compare it to this timeframe. This is altering of geology, you can see. In past times, they tried to burn a hole through Earth, with the Big Crystal, geology changed too !



That's the conclusion of a science, which does not known, everything is connected in Universe. There are beacons of Love and Fear in the Universe. And currently Earth is not such nice...beacon. And I do not discuss things such as LHC or bombing jupiter with nukes. So I can understand fully, they decided to send 'the transformer(s)'...



Every living being is important.
Humankind is not small, they perform small, for a big reason because they have developed too less Empathy and they are too receptive to Hypnosis (conditioning, etc).
They have too much science, technology but they do not have the same level of love and whisdom. And that's a dangerous cocktail.

They have always excuses. The little dogs still barks to loud. So the big dogs, they can only look to the silly little dog. So we can't do anything. Because the little dogs, they think they are the big dog. Until they receive a bite or do see the boogie man,

gone they are !

All the Best


VVizz of Ur

Honestly. I am tired to be toiletlady of humankind. I am preparing to take my cats, my seeds, my women and friends with me. Because I want, to keep this body, and colonize all over again with my people. Temporary. And if it can not in this body, well so be it. But I was predicted otherwise by an Elder.

So I trust, for those who feel things are right, do trust in a good outcome.
Don't let fear block Your outcome. Trust.

All the Best


VVizz of Ur

ST you said in the E-**** that you think nibiru is close , wouldnt you know that it is close?

Also i was wondering wouldnt you as a et group know about the speculations i had , that i discussed in the E-**** rather than stating that it was written somewhere, but shouldnt you know as you see everything for what it TRULY IS?

Also you understand that we as humans are so BLIND growing up cause i mean Nibiru and its existence may not be surprising to you as this is the way of things and its one of the home planets but for us growing up being blinded from everything in the artificial reality, well i mean i didnt discover even a possibility untill my mid Twenties, (gregorian years ) that Nibiru and its eliptical orbit could possible even exist at all, i mean were so brainwashed as a people that we blow it off as NONSENSE if we even hear of a possiblity, or we may or may not hear about its possibility at all in our lifetimes, that is why it may be shocking and most curious and interesting if their was Truth to Nibiru's existence, i mean i was pleasantly surprised, i didnt really freak out hearing about this possibility , i just was amazed/fascinated/curious and a little surprised and not so freaked out by it but others who are so so loving their fame , fortunes and possesions, money , cars and women, or men and their big screen tv's fancy houses and vehicles , and all that they take possesion of , their families and their loved ones, i mean they love this world so much that when it comes crashing down so many will be UPSET.

Like my one supervisor today, who is actually younger than me, above the team leads who's 26 , says how were taking everything by storm , meaning we do everything the best, be the best plant , says how line 1 concentrate juice , number 1 , line 2 juice also record setting numbers and phase 1 of sweet dried craisens which is line 3 how were setting numbers of product made and way ahead of schedule for this new craisen plant just put in to accomodate line 1 and 2 juice and how phase 2 sweet dried cranberies line 4, and when we build the retail part of the plant next year 2009 sometime , i said oh were need 40 more people and he jokingly or not said were just use the people we got like were run the plant with fewest people to make the most money possible , leaves more bonuses for us, etc, so so greedy are these people, i know its business, but common , no care for the common man who doesnt have a job, do the job , run the plant with the fewest people , well i mean that would just put more of a workload on others let me tell ya, but well i know these are mundane things, but people are so greedy and brainwashed with money galore and possesions, its not even funny, catch my drift?, hehehehe, well anyways, the roads were good enuff to dry and i made it their safe so i'm alright, more snow today 3 to 5 inches, but hey snow is snow, like mom may find the weather strange at times but doesnt think anything to unusual , or to dramatic will happen, well later my friend and thanks for being a friend, Josh.

Hi, Thanks for your thoughts... in somw of them we have agreements... in others, we think different of course.

Colinize with your people? Toiletlady?

hmmmmmm well...

you miss or misinterpret what i meant in several of my sentences, in some of them we think close things... in some others it´s quite another understanding. I would try to explain perhaps. For what you wrote above, well... lets say that i trust in science rather than an elder, although elders are often quite trustable/knowledgeable. Our society makes a wrong thing by focussing just in youth and taking distance from intelligence, rationalism and wisdom indeed.

Cheers, S. who C.

Language and human science are both too narrow in focus of what should be described.

It turned all wrong after Descartes. To think, Universe is a machine only.
So Humankind made disconnection at some level with Universe.

However, the mental capacity is only a part of the 'brain'.
Real Science does use full capacity of Your Consciousness,
which allow to make interconnection to other information,
retrieved by Other Consciousness or even, the Ultimate Consciousness.
That's why I trust the Elder, I speak.
They do have a mastership in Real Science as in Love.
Where the capacity of Love does have the most weight in the formula.

The society makes many wrong focus, all for selfish reasons.
The look to the personal advantage of people or organizations.

However, science became so dangerous, one person can kill a population. This means, if one person is unhappy, he could
kill a part of society with his (or her) knowledge. If (s)he is a PhD in biologic, physics, (s)he is aviator or (s)he does operate a nuclear plant etc. There is only one roof on the house, Earth. If one nuke goes off, the whole planet suffers, including our children, animals, plants. Not for a moment, but for decades ! So it is impossible to control all people. The only way is to give Happiness, Insight, Whisdom, Love to people. So they would not destroy their community in anger, sadness, ignorance or stupidity. Love is really basic, a need to advance to a healthy and high civilization. Or (self-)destruction follows of the habitat, the population, civilization, culture...

That's why a selfish world, a world which promotes competition but seldom co-operation, needs to be destroyed or need to be altered, transformed to another world. Because many souls of living being would suffer for the stupidity of those who think they are 'something' in society. Those people You find in a big amount between scientists, politicians, business people etc.
But the common man wants freedom, not to work as a slave, not to work most of days and time. Life is NOT work ! Some do actually believe ! The common man wants a clean world to live. A healthy world to live. As basic comfort as well.

Those in power did put common man asleep. They did not take their responsibility to awaken the people, to make comfortable their lives. No they took advantage of them, to serve their own greed, pleasures and comfort. But common man is not set free too, because they keep sleeping and they keep to do all the same, each day all over again. They do not group together, to claim for changes ! Divide and rule. yes, they are ruled, exploited, used ! They became slaves, and they do not see it.

Sorry ST to interfere so much in Your treat.
It is not my intention to divert focus.

All the Best,


VVizz of Ur

Hi everyone there,

Perhaps intriguing, perhaps not so much... links:

CME/explosion on the far side of SOL: large one?!
Thread: BREAKING!!..EXPLOSION ON THE FAR SIDE OF THE SUN

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

(perhaps usefull):
[link to www.solarcycle24.com]

Nibiru quoted on NASA web page:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

And the quoted link on NASA page:
[link to dsc.discovery.com]

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quotes on the last link and some +comments from S. who C.:


Armageddon from Planet Nibiru in 2012? Not So Fast
by David Morrison e-mail share bookmark print

Some conspiracy theorists believe ancient Sumerian people discovered a planet called "Nibiru" beyond Pluto that will doom Earth in 2012. Scientists, however, beg to differ. Credit: Wikimedia Commons
+ hmmmm... and... what scientist do actually even consider this? hmmmm, most are wroking on other things.

The scoop: Conspiracy theorists are convinced a rogue planet will destroy the Earth in 2012, and movie makers are already trying to cash in on the hysteria. An astrobiologist calls for a reality check.
+ How could we check that? hmmmmm.... nope? Stinky swampy

Unbeknownst to most of us, a small but vocal group of conspiracy theorists is convinced that a rogue planet is about to enter the inner solar system and doom the Earth.

They say that this threatening planet on a 3600-year orbit was discovered by the ancient Mesopotamians, who named it Nibiru, and it was known also to the Mayans, who associated it with the end of their calendar "long count" in December 2012. In Web sites, blogs, and radio talk shows, they insist that NASA is tracking Nibiru -- but that this information is being kept from the public as part of a worldwide conspiracy.
+hmmmm, as in this site and this thread, of course...

They say the official silence can't be maintained for much longer, however, because by 2009 Nibiru will be visible to the naked eye from the southern hemisphere. They also say Earth's axis is already tilting and the length of the day is changing under its influence.
+ Very very very very slight variations. Nothing conclussive so far... but doesnt matter for the issue...

As one believer recently wrote to me, "Why are you lying. It's coming, and everyone knows it."
+ EVERYONE! well... obviously not. Is it? I am not sure but i do not rule that out, of course.

I began to receive questions about this bizarre story in December 2007 through NASA's "Ask an Astrobiologist" site. Normally I receive up to a dozen questions per week from the public, dealing mostly with life in the universe -- but in the past 6 months the Nibiru traffic alone has grown to 20-25 messages a week, ranging from the anguished "I can't sleep," "I am really scared" or "I don't want to die" to the abusive "you are putting my family at risk" and "if NASA denies it then it must be true."
+ Interesting.

As a scientist, I'm both fascinated and astonished by the deluge of questions from people who are genuinely frightened and, apparently, unable to distinguish astronomical fact from fiction.
+ Yes indeed... not very surprising of course.

They're watching YouTube videos and visiting slick Web sites with nothing in their skeptical toolkit, or to quote Carl Sagan no "baloney detector."
+ Well... the baloneys detector kits come in many ways and it is obvious that they are... sometimes quite mishappening, specially when they are built on prejudices/preconcived thoughts that had efficiently blocked some understandments... such as the ones going on between traditional plate tectonics and earth expansion processes. Why is not subduction being balooned out? hmmmm... human science is not perfect, of course.

Now a blockbuster disaster film called "2012" is set for release in the summer of 2009, and the commercial enterprise is clearly trying to cash in on people's concern (perhaps contributing to their fear as well).
+ perhaps?

My guess is that only a tiny fraction of people truly believes that Armageddon is coming in December 2012. But their uncritical acceptance of this story worries me as a warning of the dangers of our current scientific illiteracy.
+ Indeed... it is worrysome. Among other things.

We're facing monumental problems with global warming
+ wooooops! And what does a comprehensive understanding on the issue gets you to wonder about?! Well... it is not about humans at all, of course. And it is both hot and cold, much more cooooooooooooooooold! Isn´t it?!

and loss of habitat
+ natural habitats. Definetively obvious! Among other problems i related in my thread on Earths perils and elsewhere... and many are trying to help on.

, yet a substantial minority of Americans thinks the world was formed less than 10,000 years ago and deny that evolution is possible.
+ Upsettingly true.

Many Americans seem to prefer coal-fired generators to nuclear power plants without realizing the toll in public health that coal imposes.
+ hmmmmmm... both are dangerous and unnecessary.

Billions are spent, including tax-payer dollars, for so-called alternative medicine with no scientific evidence for its efficacy.
+ hmmmmm..... rather much more billions are expend on official/approved drugs which fight the symptoms instead of the causes and whose economic benefits do not reach those in the lands where the active principles / medicines initially came from. What does that had to do with astrophysics or scientific honesty or justice BTW?!

And legislators often resist efforts to collect the data that could actually demonstrate which government programs are effective and which ones don't work as intended.
+ Bureaucracy... yeah...

In spite of my frustrations, I can always hope that Nibiru will turn into a teaching moment. Its proponents are convinced that it will be visible to the unaided eye this coming spring, and its effects on the rotation and orbit of the Earth will be obvious by summer (just in time for the release of the film "2012"). When none of this happens, I hope they'll realize that they need better tools to distinguish fact from fiction.
+ hmmmmm ... and so if any of this comes to happen DISPROVES the possibility that we might be living in a usual binary system or that there might be other unkown planets? No way... you see... that´s why Nibiru´s boom could be quite well a disinformation campaing... and there could be truth beneath, more or less being suggested. This neither proves, nor denies the possibilities.

But maybe they won't.
+ Education, tolerance and critical thinking are the way toward such achievements... not events/non events of weird or unweird natures. You cann´t understand what you do not the truth/evidences/realities about. What about SETI, the public space program and those shining and spectacular metallic giants which needs obscence quantities of energy to reach close to nothing?! hmmmmm........

One of funniest things about this Nibiru story is that it is a rerun -- there was a big Internet concern that Nibiru would destroy the Earth in May of 2003. Something tells me this didn't happen, yet now the same myth is resurrected. Are we condemned to suffer a Nibiru scare every decade in this century, or will people come to their senses?
+ Obviously disinformation campaings are around... but... why if there is nothing to disinform about? Or perhaps there is?! Perhaps even not exactly what expected?

David Morrison, a space scientist at NASA Ames Research Center and interim director of NASA's new Lunar Science Institute, answers questions from the public on "Ask an Astrobiologist." He recently published a collection of sample questions and answers surrounding the Nibiru story in Skeptical Inquirer. The views expressed are the author's alone and do not represent the official position of the Discovery Channel.

Article posted October 13, 2008.

Interesting... he was to talk about Nibiru issue and he touch quite a lot of issues, but exactly what he meant.
It could be synthetized as following:

Nibiru is not real, what might be hypothetized about is not real, we know pretty well that they are completely misguided, just TRUST ME... our balooney detection kits ARE INFALLIBLE... BELIEVE!

Science? well... hmmmm...

Best hopes for a better world ; )

S. who C.

VVizz


For every action towards understanding, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

It is ourselves that are our first and last obstacles.

With Love,

Yolgnu.

Thanks VVizz for your later response... i mostly agree.

I know that there are many challenges indeed, many dangers, there are good signs too, things to rise hope. The cosmic dust taking coscience of itself and the marvels of the cosmos itself is an awesome thing for sure. When i said we are small i reffered to the size of Earth and the geological processes which moves/change it... as for those processes we are very small indeed and we have, even in a collective incidence..... negligible effects. Everything is relative, nevertheless ; )

In many ways Yolgnu... although i would be not so sure of the accuracy of translating physical principles into psychological/social swampy/complex issues ; )

From my perspective here S who C We have relationships on every level with everything here.

Have a very Good day ALL

Yolgnu.

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 575213

**In Response To: NightWisp .. With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

I read your stuff..

+ You mean about the questions on Earth´s tilt and movements? Thanks a lot. Isn´t this interesting? I had to acknowledge that for the later parts i was mostly inspired through ST communications on this thread, and still wonder about such amazing possibilities.

**We Our Honored ... That We Have Inspired !!

++Yes indeed you have and i am thankfull for those ideas ;)

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**A Main Problem IS .. In Expressing/Describing ... What Is Being Seen ... In Concepts ... In Words ... That One Is Familiar With !! ... For Instance ... While One Would Be Of "Scientific Background" ... & Desire To Have
Such Happenings ... Presented In A "Scientific Description/Format" ... While The Others Of That Lifetime ... Are Only Being Allowed ... To Express Such Visions ... Of What Are Being Seen/Felt ... In More "Layman's Language" !! ... So That Right There ... Can Be ... A BIG Communications Gap !!... And A Main Source ... Of What You Term ... Of Our "Swampyness" !!

++It might be...in many ways, as well as not in some others.
Indeed quite curious ; )



+for sure there are those other intelligent beings (perhaps plenty of species?)

**Many Many Many ++++ ... Beyond What You Might Conceive !! ... Even Of Those ... Who Share The Planet With You ... Though They Are Not Well Known !!

+who know much more than what we currently knew.

**Know Way Beyond ... What Those In Terrestrial Forms Know !!

++ Well, those of them that might be "sharing the planet" are probably quite "terrestrial"... he he heee




**Indeed ... Try To Do What One Can ... With What One Has !!

+Quite curious.

**Curiosity ... Is What We Have In Common ... As Living Beings ... Species/Individuals !! ... It Is That ... Which Is An Excitement !!

++Quite exciting indeed ;)


Best hopes for a better world ; )

A Scientist who Cares

ST,

You insist on the planet becoming liveless, completely liveless... i would insist on this being completely impossible. Remember about what happens on the hydrothermal vents and the submarine volcanoes? Not even half a year after everything on a place in the gulf of california was wiped out by an eruption the place was thriving with life as never before was sighted. Most biomass of the planet is from bacteria living in the Earth´s crust. The later includes the soils bacteria, but they had been found many kilometers from the surface in all sort of conditions that would make a geiser looks harshless. This is just the most compelling example for showing that the planet would not be lifeless even in a worst case ST´s type nightmare... but of course you do not need to be hundreds or thousands of meters below the surface to survive as i explained what even plants can do... and often actually do.

So lifelessness seems to be a gross exageration.

I had seen once more time a flying sphere over that city... it was much larger than the ones i saw in the past, about five to ten jumbo jets put together. What are these spheres doing? Why they keep coming? Are they taking images and measurements? It was a sight, not a vision, of course.


S. who C.

Oh, Thank you Wispy. You understand of couse, but take care too, whatever might happen. We live in shaky times.