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Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 677656

5/12/2009 1:10 AM (E.D.T.)

**Quoting: NightWisp ...

"Have not had any (telestrator messages) until this morning."
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**Note: Additional Comments ... From (ST In BG) E-Mail Sent !! ... Indicated By: (***)

The past few nights there have been no updates.

**Oh There Hasn't Been ??

However at church last night, there appeared some items on the screen where the lesson was being presented.

**OH Now This Is Curious !! ... A 2nd Time ... You Have Got The "Information" ... At The Church !! ... Well I Guess ... This Is A Place That You Can Be Reached !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!

First.. There appeared to be some type of writing in purple. (purpla) It looked Hebrew or maybe Sanskrit.

**Hmmmm !!!! ... Very Interesting !!! ... Wonder What Language Type It Was !! ... Now The Conduit Has Seen What Appears To Be ... "Flame Writing" ... Which Is ... Very Very VERY Ancient !! ... Predating "Hebrew" ... & Maybe Even Sanskrit !!

I could not read it and I thought was just imagination, But it appeared a second time.

**Well ... It Is Suspected ... That Many Could Not !! .... For The "Reading" Is Done ... "Differently" !!

Then a bit later, at the bottom of the screen.. there appeared what looked like a group of people. A person walked from the Left side (West) to the Right side (East).

It looked as though he would stop at this group or that,,,
talk,, then move on until he came to the end and it disappeared. (I have no clue).

**Very Very Strange !!!!! ... Moving From ... West To East !!! ... Yet Of This Moving ... Stopping ... Pausing For A Bit (At This Group Or That ... To Talk) ... And Then ... Moving On !! ... (The Motion Continues !!) ... A Wave/Waveform Pattern ... Moving From West To East !!!

Finally.. this morning... I had the images again of 9 heart
moving from the South to North.. Perhaps 9 heart is not a date. Maybe the 9 is Nibiru's orbit.

**Hmmm !! ... Yes !! ... Maybe So !!! ... As Looking At The 9 Symbol ... One Sees This ... Approaching From The South/Southwest ... Heading To The Northeast ... Swinging Around ... Right To Left In An Arc ... Then Crossing Back ... From Left To Right !!! ... 3/4ths Of The Orbital Path ... Of Nibiru !!!

I did not want to put it on the threads for it to be a downer to all.

**Oh Why Not My Friend ??? ... It Is NOT !! ... A Downer For All !! ... In Fact ... There Are Those Besides Ourselves ... Which Appreciate Hearing ... Of Your "Telestrator Tales & Visions" !! ... So Keep Them Coming !! ... & Screw The Naysayers ... & Those Seeing Exacting Exactness !! ... For You Will Never Please Them ... Nor Make Them Happy !!

I do not know what to think any more.

**Well ... Just Go With The Flow My Friend !! ... Go With The Flow !!

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P.S.

ST.

The thought occurred to me later.. The person waking and
stopping to talk, then moving on..

(The last image I saw the first time was a king on a stone
throne. He was very beautiful, strong, but looked kind)

He came from the spot where that king had been located. But I did not see the throne.

Sometimes when he would stop, it looked as though he
put his arms around the people he talked to. Then moved on.

**Oh Now ... That Is Very Very Curious !! ... As This Could Be Related To ... The Last Image ... That Was Given There ... Of This "King On A Stone Throne" !! ... Beautiful , Strong ... & Kind) .... Lord Anu ???

**& Now This Person (Perhaps This Same "King" ?? ... Lord Anu ???) ... Walking From Left To Right (Traveling From West To East) ... Is ... (What Is Coming In & I (Conduit) Is Hearing !!) ... Approaching !! ... Arriving !! ... (Lord Anu ... His Entourage ... His Staff, Guards ... The Elders ... Are Arriving ??) ...

**Sometimes Stopping ... Putting His Arms Around ... The People He Talked To ... Then Moved On !!! ... (Embracing Terra/Earth ?? ... Embracing As Of ... Nibiru's Presence & Forces ... & All So Connected ... Embracing ... As In
Making Changes ... Forcing Changes ... Wherever Contact Is Made ???) ... It May Be So ??

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Silent Companion: User ID: 336696

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Dear Whispy,

I want to thank you, once again for going through all that you have to inform us of what you've been seeing. I have really appreciated it, and I know others have as well.

**OH Indeed !! ... A BIG Thank You !! ... & We Do Appreciate This !!

Please don't feel responsible for peoples' disappointments.

**Indeed ... There Is No Need ... To Feel Responsible ... For Such Things !!

I realize this is difficult, I have been "expecting things to happen" on various dates ever since the May 15, 2003 Nancy's Little White Lie....

**Well ... This Was ... The Purposeful Release ... Of An "Incorrect Date" ... In Order For When ... The Real Time/Date Came Around ... Then ... The People ... Would Not Pay Attention !!

and was very disappointed on Dec. 21, 22, 23 24 of 2007 when there was a line-up of all the planets, and ST had said perhaps Santa Comes Early...

**There Was "Potential" ... Of That Moment ... For ... "Santa" ... To Come Early !!

Ya, there have been many dates that I have prepared myself for..and they haven't happened... so is it..

**Yes ... So It Is To Be !!

Actually..as I am understanding some of this...it is a whole universal change...and Earth with her inhabitants, are important.as a cog in machinery...we are not the whole shebang....so we each must learn to be patient and when it happens it will happen.

**Indeed ... This Is Correct !! ... As Such Changes ... Such Happenings ... Of This Transition ... Does Not Just Effect Terra/Earth ... By Many Things Besides !!!

(On the other hand...perhaps Josh is the big Kahuna, and they wouldn't let anything happen until he gets out of the klink).

**Well ... One Never Knows !! .... And Two ... Is Not Saying !! ... Just Laughing !!! ... Heee Hee Heee !!!

(Just trying to be a bit funny...I miss Josh, and hope he is o.k.)

**Well Hope He Is WI (Wisconsin) ... As OK ... Is Oklahoma !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

We are all just speculating on dates...

**Hmmmm !! ... Maybe We Should Switch ... To Figs Instead ??? .... After All ... Figs Are ... Mediterranean Too !! ... (Hearing ... Or "Enki Fruit" !!!) ... Hee Hee Hee !!

June 21 the summer solstice...the Earth moves on it's axis...I had read was a possibility, and that's somewhat why I thought 7,8,9 might mean July Aug. Sept.

**Hmmm !! ... Most Curious !!

Actually, I felt that there needed to be more dire catastrophes happening before PX showed up...

**Well ... Usually ... That Is The Case !! ... But There Have Been ... "Surprises" Before !! ... Such As ... "Surprise" !! ... We Are Here !!!!!

Well, we all just wait and see.

**Indeed So !!

Many thanks again.

**Yes Indeed !! ... Many Thanks !!

Sincerely, Silent Companion

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Good moment every one!

i have been following the thread for over a year ... i still am with you all and find impulses found here most interesting ... but i am also sceptical about the idea of upgrading as it is presented by ST in BG ... with all respect to Zeta Reticulians.

It seems to me, that questions to help understand ourselves, here on terra/earth/gaia where we are, in the moment, in the here and in the now, as energy essence in human shells/bodies ... for example: the interplay of body/shell and essence, true functions of the shell/body/organs/brain(s), emotions, love, integrity, etc. ... are not as welcome questions as those that concern the upcoming changes that fill a certain curiosity out of time/out of the now/which lays in the human termed future. That gives me the impression that a room to dream is maybe purposely created by you... a nice dream, one of a better world. *HOPE* *dies* *last*. everything in * *.

I don't understand why you wouldn*t teach us directly here on the thread supportive/parallel to the live experience we make offline more clearly? Security reasons and restrictions, like *not allowed* *cannot say* - what for? Noone who is sirius about this topic is a danger. And all others ... *sosighET* will look after them, no?

Why so mysterious when going public?

Just curious ...:o)
Thank you!
GP

Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 597166

**In Response To: NightWisp ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

Yes yes, I agree with Silent Companion - Wispy please please share with us.

**Oh Indeed !! ... Please Do !! ... And ... Go With The Flow !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

This is such a huge gift that you have and I/we are so
grateful that you share them with us.

**A Very Wonderful & Huge Gift ... That Has Been Bestowed !!! ... & We Are All ... Very Grateful ... That You Share ... With All Of Us !!

Please please don't stop. I look forward EVERY DAY to reading your visions and especially your interpretations.

**Indeed !! ... Please Continue On ... As These Are ... Most Appreciated ... & Looked Forward To !! ... Afterall ... We Wouldn't Want To Become ... "Doom Deprived" !! ... Those Symptoms ... And This Affliction ... Is Very Difficult To Treat !! ... Well Then Again ... Maybe A "Flash Of Nibiru" ... Peek A Boo ... Would Serve As A "Temporary Fix" ?? ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

Thank you, thank you for doing this. It is very much
appreciated.

**Oh Yes Indeed !! ... Thank You Very Much !! ... & Most Appreciated !!

Again, please please don't stop.

**Well ... You Can Physically Stop Your Motion !! ... Hee Hee Hee !! ... But Please Keep On ... With The Visions & Relating Of Informations ... That Are Given To You !!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Phazing ELE115: User ID: 641714

Close Encounter of the First kind

A sighting of one or more unidentified flying objects:

* Flying saucers
* Odd lights
* Aerial objects that are not attributable to human technology

Close Encounter of the Second kind

An observation of a UFO, and associated physical effects from the UFO, including:

* Heat or radiation
* Damage to terrain
* Human paralysis
* Frightened animals
* Interference with engines or TV or radio reception.
* Lost Time: a gap in one's memory associated with a UFO
encounter.[3]

Close Encounter of the Third kind

An observation of what Hynek termed "animate beings" observed in association with a UFO sighting.[4] Hynek deliberately chose the somewhat vague term "animate beings" to describe beings associated with UFOs without
making any unfounded assumptions regarding the beings' origins or nature.

Hynek did not necessarily regard these beings as "extraterrestrials" or "aliens", and in his 1972 book, he further expressed discomfort with such reports, but felt a scientific obligation to include them, at the very least because they represented a sizable minority of claimed UFO encounters.

Bloecher subtypes

The UFO researcher Ted Bloecher proposed seven subtypes for the close encounters of the third kind in the Hynek's scale.

A: An entity is observed only inside the UFO
B: An entity is observed inside and outside the UFO
C: An entity is observed near to a UFO, but not going in or out.

D: An entity is observed. No UFOs are seen by the observer, but UFO activity has been reported in the area at about the same time

E: An entity is observed. But no UFOs are seen and no UFO
activity has been reported in the area at that time

F: No entity or UFOs are observed, but the subject experiences some kind of "intelligent communication"

G: Abduction (same as close encounter of fourth kind)

Subtypes D, E, and F may be unrelated to the UFO phenomenon.[5]

Close Encounter of the Fourth kind

A human is abducted by a UFO or its occupants. This type was not included in Hynek's original close encounters scale.[4]

Close Encounter of the Fifth kind

Named by Steven M. Greer's CSETI group, these purported
encounters are joint, bilateral contact events produced through the conscious, voluntary and proactive human-initiated or cooperative communication with Extraterrestrial intelligence. This is very similar to
some "Contactees" of the 1950s, or Bloecher's subtype F for Third Encounters. This type was not included in Hynek's original close encounters scale.[4]

OH BOY.......

**No ... Not Really !! ... Understand All Of These "Classifications" ... Are Terrestrial "Made Up Creations" !! ... They Are An "Attempt" ... To "Pigeon Hole" ... To Put Things In Nice Separated Compartments ... To Sort Out ... To Figure Out !! ... Well ... Things Just Do Not Work That Way !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 585606

I added a few more questions denoted by ----

***And Our "New Comments" ... With (***) !!

Thanks for any clarification allowed.

**We Will Try !! ... & You Are ... Most Welcome !!

I think if there is some chance that it will take longer than 2012 to pass then it should be stated in the responses that this is the case rather than just responding that it will occur long before this date.

**If We Could Say This ... We Would !!

----Why can't you say it? You just said it below. I'm confused about what you mean. If it is possible what is stopping you from stating it. Would this be misrepresenting the possibilities?

----You just said it right here. Why not make people aware of the possibility it could take longer than our gregorian year 2012 rather than stating we won't make it that far in a rather black and white manner when clearly it isn't. Maybe I misinterpreted. Please clarify if possible.
Thank you.

***It Is Enough ... To Say ... For "Reasons" ... That We Cannot !!

**You Should ... Join Us ... Aboard Ship ... And See What It Is Like ... For Us ... To Attempt To Give ... Of Moment To Moment Updates !!!

---- I accept your offer. Though I'll be honest in that I don't expect it to be follow through.

***You Have Already Been ... In Contact !!

I've asked many times for ET contact and by now I can only determine that for whatever reason I am to be denied all conscious contact.

***All Conscious ... 3rd Density Contact !! ... Though It Does Not Mean ... You Have ... Not Been ... In Our Presence !!

So please no teasing with comments like above. Hee hee.

***Such Would Not Be "Teasing" !! ... You Have Been Aboard !! ... More Then Once !!

Well they (TPTB) will never learn, we've already established that haven't we?

**Yes ... All Learn Eventually !!

----Learn or get wiped clean to start again.

***Perhaps !!

That is how you explained it earlier in the thread.

***Depends On ... What Is Needed ... To Be Done !!

Since the overlay is wiped out in that case though,

***There Are May Be ... Many Variances ... Many Options !! ... This Is One !!

then are they really the same being as they were before? Not really I would think.

***Of Each ... There Would Be Change(s) ... That Occur !!

SO then they didn't really learn in such a case, they
more would be started over as a new being, no?

***It Depends !!

----Why are they not afraid to send debunkers?

***They Are Not !! ... However They Are To Be Reminded ... That We Do Not Fall ... We Do Not Come ... Under Their Jurisdiction ... In Regards To ... Those Applied To Terrestrial Releasing Of Informations ... In Regard To ...
The New "Changed" Rules !! ... Though We Are In Agreement ... That Panic, Death & Destruction ... Are Things ... We Wish Not To Happen !!

***We Do Not Agree In The Ways Of Disinforming ... Of Lying ... Which Is Not Of Our Natures ... Though We May ... Of Wisdom/Choice ... Decide To Withhold ... Or Not Speak Fully !! ... As Per Our Own Rules & Regulations
... If Such Informations Would Be Used ... To Inflict Pain & Suffering ... Onto Others/Other Things !! ... So Of This ... We May Choose To Speak In Brevity (In Areas Of Restrictions) ... Of Limited Ways ... Or Are Told Directly ... That We Are Not Allowed To Communicate ... To Share Of These Thoughts !!

Seems they can get away with a lot of things.

***Again ... "They" Have Their "Rules/Restrictions" ... We Have Ours !! ... Their "Rules Restrictions" ... Are Not Necessarily ... In The Best Interests ... Of The Peoples/Beings There !! ... & Have "Built In" Factors ...
Favoring Certain Ones There !! ....

***Our "Rules/Restrictions" ... Are In The "Best Interests" Of All Things Concerned !! ... Of Life That Exists On/Off The Planet Terra/Earth ... Of The Life/Life Forces Of Terra/Earth ... If The Relationship To Other
Planets ... Other Life In Your System ... And Outward ... To Include Of Your Galaxy ... Your Universe ... Of All Dimensions !! ... So Of This ... All Of This ... Needs To Be Considered ... & Taken Into Account !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: GP: User ID: 553342

Good moment every one!

i have been following the thread for over a year ... i still am with you all and find impulses found here most interesting ...

but i am also skeptical about the idea of upgrading as it is presented by ST in BG ... with all respect to Zeta Reticulians.

**Of Your Language ... We Refer To Ourselves As ... The People/One People !! ... "Zeta Reticulians" Is Acceptable ... Though Incorrect ... In Regards To ... Where We Are From ... Our Origins ... Our Histories !!

**Of The "Upgrading" ... This Needs To Be Done ... Of The Evolving ... Of The Changes Happening There !!

It seems to me, that questions to help understand ourselves, here on Terra/Earth where we are, in the moment, in the here and in the now, as energy essence in human shells/bodies ...

for example: the interplay of body/shell and essence, true functions of the shell/body/organs/brain(s), emotions, love, integrity, etc. ... are not as welcome questions

**Such Questions Would Require You To Understand ... On Our Level ... Advanced Genetics !!

as those that concern the upcoming changes that fill a certain curiosity out of time/out of the now/which lays in the human termed future.

**It Is ... What Will Occur There !!

That gives me the impression that a room to dream is maybe purposely created by you... a nice dream, one of a better world.

**Such Is ... Not What You Call ... "A Dream" (You Do Not Understand "Dreams" !!) ... However ... Such Happenings & Events ... Are Recorded ... Of Our Ancient Of Records !! ... They Have Happened ... They Will Happen !!

I don't understand why you wouldn't teach us directly here on the thread supportive/parallel to the live experience we make offline more clearly?

**We Are Not Fully Allowed Of This !!

Security reasons and restrictions, like *not allowed* *cannot say* - what for?

**Because ... We Are Not Allowed ... & Cannot Say !!

Noone who is sirius about this topic is a danger.

**You Would Be ... If Certain Of Informations ... If "Allowed" ... Were To Be Shared !!

And all others ... *sosigh ET* will look after them, no?

**We Have Been ... Looking After Things ... On Terra/Earth !! ... Taking Care Of Threats To Life There !! ... Eliminating/Neutralizing Your Toxins/Poisons !! ... Preventing Your ... "Playing Around With Fire" ... With Those Things ... Which Would End Your Lives There !!! ... Moreso ... Then You Would Think ... Or Realize !! ... However ... Of The Great Cleansing ... & Transition ... This Is To Be !!

Why so mysterious when going public?

**Understand ... That Transmitting Of Informations ... From A Higher Level ... To One More Primitive ... One(s) Have To Tread Lightly ... Gently !! ... They Cannot Just ... Let It All Loose ... & Have The Chips Fall Where They May !! ... Such Would Be Disastrous ... Not Just To Yourselves ... But To All Life There ... And Life Beyond ... Which You Are Not Aware Of !!

Just curious ...:o)

**Yes Of Course !!

Thank you!

You Are Very Welcome !!

GP

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 441472

Hello ST In BG

I have some questions about Nibiru

Why is Nibiru in 3rd density now? ... if, the planet/ers is/are so advanced?

**That Is ... Where It Is To Be !! ... Of What It Is To Do !! ... Of Part Of It's Functioning !!

Which position it might be at (the one in 3D) if it is in its just a past evolutionary time at the same time? or is this 3D position (also, i, have seen some videos today) in its own parallel evolutionary time path?

**It Is ... Where It Needs To Be !! ... Where It Is ... Supposed To Be !!

ps. ....or ... can it be just a focus at the present time of human evolving common unconsciousness path?

**No !!

ps ps .... our humanly reached focus at the present time

**No !!

pspsps ..if so^^ do we need another focus to come out of this situation and what it might be?

**You Will Be ... Focusing ... On Survival !! ... For The Moments You Have Left ... To Survive ... When The Changes Happen/Occur !!

thanks in advance

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Hello ST in BG:

Please, I would like to ask some questions about early man.

It is said that man felt naked when he received knowledge of God. Would it be correct to say that naked was a metaphor as to man's thinking? That the simplicity of his knowlege was expanded such that he felt naked which meant that he "understood" what he could not understand before?

Did the ET's provide the clothing for man? or did man learn to clothe themselves before the ET's with skins from animals they killed? Perhaps teach women/men to weave to create cloth? Or did women just happen across the weaving idea and created blankets, etc...?

Did the ET's change the kind of food that man ate? Such as teaching to cook, or ways to prepare food, or additional food that could be eaten to expand their food groups?

Were all the men created approx same linear time as ape man - I believe there are 5 types? Oriental man, white man, red man, etc... As to ape man, did "he" walk upright when the ET's manipulated the dna, or was the dna splicing part of man's new ability to walk. Were all men created on one land mass/pangea and then migrated later, perhaps after ET's left?

Were women equal to men then? Did they mine and work as the men did, or did they have special tasks? Were they enslaved by the men, looked down upon as inferior?

Was there some"thing" that caused man to split apart and migrate? Did the ET's cause man's languages to change according to type for a reason, or was this a natural part of language morphing after losing touch with each other/culture?

Is the reason men appreciate gold so much today, because of the ET knowledge of gold (lost I'm sure), and only used as jewelry for today?

I read one of your responses, that Anu wore purple. Today, man signifies purple as the color of royalty. Did we get the significance of purple from the ET's? Did Anu come to earth when man was here in the beginning? Do Enlil and Enki wear purple?

Do the ET's have a special agreement with Terra for replacing what is taken during mining?

Thanks ever so much,

Canundrum

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 677142

ST in BG, thanks for your attention

**You Are Most Welcome !!

and farewell for who knows... perhaps... for ever... ?

**Who Knows ???

Please try not to comment excessively (or not comment) on the second part of my probably last message to the board...

**Why ???

which comes after this post/greeting.... it is another view of things, perhaps quite close to reality,

**Which "Reality" ?? ... The "Feel Good Reality" ... That You Choose To Embrace ?? ... No ... Sorry !!!!

of which i am sure few here seems to had even thought... so i share.

**If They Are Desirous ... Of "Living The Lie" ... Living The "Set Illusion" ... Keeping Their "Rose Colored Glasses" On ... Believing That Everything Is ... Just Fine !! ... And Their Vision Of ... What Is Going To
Happen On Terra/Earth ... And Their Ability To Do Anything About It ... And The Survival Of "Humanity" (Which We Have Mentioned "Time & Again" Will Not Be !!!) ... Is To Be !!

Best hopes for a better world ; )

**After The Changes ... After The Pole Shift ... And After The Rebuilding !! ... Until Then ... Nada ... No !!

A Scientist who Cares / A curious human being

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings ST..

And noe for the Telestrator Tales.. aka.. The Chronicles of DOOOOOMMM.

This morning the messages came several times and the last was quit lengthy.

Anyway. The birds were flying from South to North. Magnetic flux was moving all over the place. And I think some radiation rays.

The strange thing was the last, which was quite lengthy. It was spinning 9s ( black) Small eye " o " and long wrap around tail. Different from the one that looked like a kid peddling a bicycle. These were spinning counterclockwise and were in rows across the screen ( west to east).
Then they turned pink and seemed to increase in speed. Then they turned to dust.. ( which is usually the end).
And then disappeared.

Wispy

Greetings: Canundrum: User ID: 493498

Hello ST In BG:

Please, I would like to ask some questions about early man.

It is said that man felt naked when he received knowledge of God.

**That's What Might Be "Said" ... However ... Incorrectly ... Is The Thought Given !!

Would it be correct to say that naked was a metaphor as to man's thinking?

**Well It Can Be Taken/Read ... In A Number Of Ways !! ... As To "Receiving The Knowledge Of God" ... Would Be ... To Receive ... To Be Taught Of Knowledge !! ... In This Case ... Of The Sexes .. & Sexual Reproduction !! ... Also Their Nakedness Can Allude To The Fact ... That They Were Indeed Naked ... & Not Wearing Any Clothing ... Which Was Not Anything Unusual !! ... & Too ... That Their Bodies ... Were "Humanoid" ... They Were In Body/Forms ... That Were Not ... Of Their Creators ... Of One Specifically
... That Was/Is ... Scaly ... Has Horns, Claws & Recessed Wings !!! ... Enki/Ea Of Course !!!

**The Bodies ... The Sets ... Both Female & Male ... Were Of Many Different Compounds ... Many Different Environments Throughout The Planet !! ... These The "Animating Energies" (Formerly In ET Bodies !!) ... Tried On ... To See If These Bodies ... Would Be Adequate ... To Living, Existing, Experiencing ... On Terra/Earth ... In 3rd Density !! ... Problem Is ... When Inside The Bodies ... They Were Subject To ... The Restrictions Of 3rd Density ... The Vibrations & Energy Fields ... Which Included ... Not Knowing ... Being
Disconnected ... From The "Higher Selves" ... Of Their Connections To ... Their Other Lives & Lifetimes ... Specifically From Where They Were Last !!

That the simplicity of his knowledge was expanded such that he felt naked which meant that he "understood" what he could not understand before?

**With The Knowledge Given ... Which Included That Of Sexual Reproduction ... There Was A Tendency ... To "Not Be Innocent" Anymore !! ... To Have ... To Take On ... Responsibility !! ... Such As Would Be ... With A ... "Raising Of Awareness" Of Consciousness ... That Which Was Necessary ... In The Roles ... Of Caretakers Of Terra/Earth !!

Did the ET's provide the clothing for man?

**Such Were Provided At First !! ... Directly ... & Indirectly !!

or did man learn to clothe themselves before the ET's with skins from animals they killed?

**This Would Have Been Insultive !!! ... To Those Who Taught ... Not To Kill !! ... Yet ... There Was A Difficulty ... A Problem !! ... In That Of Their Genetics ... There Was A Need To Partake Of Flesh ... Along With Fruit !! ... As You See ... Of Their Benefactors ... Their Creators ... For Their Health & Well Being ... This Was Needed For Their Physiologies !! ... So
After "Discussion" ... Allowance Was Made ... In Which ... "Animal Husbandry" Was Included With The Teachings !! ... That Is ... Raising Of Animals ... In Which To Partake Of Those Things ... That They Would Provide ... For The Survival ... Of The New Created Beings !! ... The Teaching That ... Proper Balance In All Things ... Was To Be Maintained !! ... That If The Animal Was To Be Used For Food/Substance ... All Parts ... Would Be Utilized ... There Would Be No Waste !! ... And That The Energies Of The Creature ... Would Be Thanked & Treated As Sacred !! ... Such Is NOT ... How You Have This ... In Your Day !!

Perhaps teach women/men to weave to create cloth?

**This Indeed Was Done !!!

Or did women just happen across the weaving idea and created blankets, etc...?

**No !! ... These Things Were Imparted ... Taught To Them !!

Did the ET's change the kind of food that man ate?

**Do To Their Physiological Changes ... Their Changes ... Of The New Bodies ... There Were Of Those Foods ... Those Things ... Which They Could Consume ... And Those Things ... Which They Could Not !! ... Of This ... New Plants ... So Developed ... So Altered ... & New Sources Of Nutrition ... Were Provided ... For Their Health & Maintenance !! ... Again ... With The Thought Of ... Replacing That Which Was Taken !!

Such as teaching to cook, or ways to prepare food, or additional food that could be eaten to expand their food groups?

**Yes ... These Things Were Taught To Them !!

Were all the men created approx same linear time as ape man -

**There Were Many ... Body Forms/Body Types !! ... Many Models !!

I believe there are 5 types? ... Oriental man, white man, red man, etc...

**This Would Be ... Of "Specific Environments" ... Of Those Models Which Were Decided Upon ... For That Climate ... For That Area !! ... Of These ... They Were ... Of The Models Decided Upon !! ... Of Which There Were Many Designs/Models "Tried Out" ... Of Each Compound/Area ... Thorough Your World ... To See What Would Work !!

As to ape man, did "he" walk upright when the ET's manipulated the DNA, or was the DNA splicing part of man's new ability to walk.

**This Model Was ... Grafted Upon ... Used As A Base Matrix ... To Build On ... Of The Needed "Creations" ... That Was So Ordered ... To Be Created ... To Assume The Toil & Labor ... Which Was Difficult On Terra/Earth !! ...
Especially So ... Of The Mines !! ... Such At The Beginnings ... Was A Combination !! ... At First There Were Those ... Who Still Retained ... Certain "Ape Like Features" ... As In Choosing To Walk In This Fashion !! ... With Further Alteration However ... This Was Adjusted ... For All To Walk In An Upright Fashion !!

Were all men created on one land mass/Pangaea and then migrated later, perhaps after ET's left?

**No ... This Would Be Incorrect !!

Were women equal to men then?

**Only The Bodies/Shells ... & Their Construction/Genetic Makeup ... Was Different !!

Did they mine and work as the men did, or did they have special tasks?

**The Creations Fulfilled The Need ... As Tools ... To Do The More Laborious Jobs/Duties !! ... They Both Did Of These Duties !! ... They Were As ... Your "Mules" At First ... Unable To Reproduce Amongst Themselves !! ...
Though Having ... Of The "Necessary Equipment" !! ... Then When Enki/Ea & Ninti ("Ninharsag" (A Title !!) ... Rebalanced Their Chromosomes & Chromosomal Structures ... & With The Necessary Teachings/Instructions ...
They Were Able To ... Produce ... Amongst Their Own Kind !! ... Both Enki/Ea & Ninti ("Ninharsag") ... Were Also Those ... Who Taught & Educated The "Creations" ... Those Of "Royal Blood" ... Enki/Ea's Blood ... Of Which He Felt ... Noone Of Royal Blood ... Should Be Working In The Mines !!! ... & So They Were The Ones ... Who Actually Led (Behind The Scenes Of Course !!) ... The First "Mining Revolt" ... In Which The "Miners" Struck ... To Receive Fairer Working Conditions ... As To Labor &
Their Health ... A Recognition Of Their Part/Role ... As Not Just Laborers ... But Somewhat ... Equal Partners !!!

Were they enslaved by the men, looked down upon as inferior?

**They Were ... "Special Creations" Made Specifically ... To Alleviate ... The Harsh Working Conditions ... Specifically Of The Mines ... Of Those Anunnaki ... Who Found Such Conditions Difficult !! ... So For Those Of The
Anunnaki ... Of Those Who's Burdens They Would Be Assuming ... And For Some Others ... They Were Looked Upon ... As Being "Tools" !! ... And Treated As Such !! ... Though With Enki/Ea's & Ninti's ("Ninharsag") Help ... They Became Known & Recognized ... As Living Beings ... Not "Tools" Simply To Be Used ... To Take Away Toil & Suffering ... But True Conscious & Thinking Living Beings ... Of Royal Blood !!!

Was there some"thing" that caused man to split apart and migrate?

**There Were Many Things ... Though Primarily We Would Say ... Changes Of The Surface ... Of Land/Water ... Restructuring !! ... Natural Disasters !! ... Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Flooding, Drought ... Along With ... Impacts
& Things, Influences From Space !!

Did the ET's cause man's languages to change according to type for a reason,

**Yes ... Of The Need To Separate Them !! ... To Separate Their Speech & Understandings !! ... To Prevent Them ...
From Attempting To ... Become As Us !!! ... In Which One Such Effort ... Was The Cause Of This !! ... To Build A Launch Tower ... To "Visit Unannounced" ... Without Authority ... Without Permission !! ... Of This "Attempted Intrusion" ... Their Launch Tower ... Was Destroyed By Atomics !! ... And Enki/Ea ... Was Ordered ... To Alter Their Genetics ... Of Communication ... So That This ... Would Not Happen Again !!

or was this a natural part of language morphing after losing touch with each other/culture?

**Of The Different Languages That Spread Out ... This Is One Cause !! ... Though Of The Origin Of This ... It Was ... As Stated !!

Is the reason men appreciate gold so much today, because of the ET knowledge of gold (lost I'm sure), and only used as jewelry for today?

**Of This Substance ... Which Is Called There "Gold" ... With The Proper Knowledge ... It Can Be Used ... For Many Things !! ... Along With Various Metals/Metal Alloys ... & Gems, Minerals, Ect. !!

I read one of your responses, that Anu wore purple.

**Yes ... Of That Appearance ... Anu Wore A Very Deep & Rich Purple Robe ... With White Trim & Ermine Like Black Spots !!

Today, man signifies purple as the color of royalty.

**It IS ... The Color Of Royalty !!

Did we get the significance of purple from the ET's?

**This Is Possible !! ... As Anu Has Visited Terra/Earth Before !! ... & Just Recently Too !!!

Did Anu come to Earth when man was here in the beginning?

**Yes !! ... And Many Other Times As Well !!

Do Enlil and Enki wear purple?

**No ... They Wear ... Other Colors !! ... Depending Upon ... Their Roles ... Their Positions !! ... And Of Course ... Preferences Too !!

Do the ET's have a special agreement with Terra for replacing what is taken during mining?

**There Are ... Ancient Agreements/Understandings ... With Regard ... To The Living Planet/Consciousness ... Called Terra/Earth !!

Thanks ever so much,

You Are Very Welcome !!

Canundrum

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: NightWisp: User ID: 666713

Greetings ST..

And now for the Telestrator Tales.. aka.. The Chronicles of
DOOOOOMMM.

**Yayyyyyyyy !!!

This morning (Tuesday: May 12, 2009)

the messages came several times and the last was quite lengthy.

**Hmmm !!!

Anyway. The birds were flying from South to North. Magnetic flux was moving all over the place. And I think some radiation rays.

**Very Curious !!!!

The strange thing was the last, which was quite lengthy. It was spinning 9s (black) Small eye " o " and long wrap around tail.

**Well ... Sounds Like ... (When You Mentioned ... The "Long Wrap Around Tail") ... Nibiru & It's Satellites/Moons !!! ... And The "Spinning 9's" ... Perhaps As Mentioned ... Of It's Orbit/Passage ... Of It's "Loop" Through !!!

Different from the one that looked like a kid peddling a bicycle. These were spinning counterclockwise and were in rows across the screen (West to East).

**Like A "Corkscrew Effect" !! ... A Worm ... Or "Wormhole Effect" ??? ... Energies Swirling ... A Feeling Of Spinning !!!!

Then they turned pink and seemed to increase in speed. Then they turned to dust.. (which is usually the end).

**Which Would Include ... In The Passage ... High Winds ... Storms ... Cyclonic Effects ... As In Tornados ... And The Reddish/Pink Dust ... Perhaps Radioactive Dust ?? ... Of Course !!!

And then disappeared.

**Yes !! ... As It Has ... Passed Beyond ... Passed Through !!!

Wispy

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: eye2sky: User ID: 656271

Hello, ST In BG!

This post is in response to the last several posts by:
"A Scientist who Cares / A curious human being" (who can't seem to stop posting, despite threatening to)

**So As It Has Been Indicated !!

If you truly are a legitimate scientist (don't think we've seen any proof of this),

**None That We Are Aware Of !!

it seems that you are more accurately described as: "A Scientist in Complete denial / A closed-minded human being"

**Well ... One Caught Up In "Belief" ... Of What Has Been Taught & Told There ... On Terra/Earth !! ... Of Being "Programmed" ... Into The ... "Artificial" ... Rather Then In ... How Things ... Really Are !!

You obviously don't "get" anything and are still clueless after all of the wonderful education ST in BG has so tirelessly and generously shared for our enlightenment over the last few years.

**We Have Tried !!! ... Some Students Are ... Slow To Learn !!!

Perhaps you can find another thread where you can save the World with your endless and pointless rhetoric that appears as walls and walls of text.

**It Is Rather ... Pointless ... In Light Of ... That Which Is To Come ... Of The Changes ... Which Are To Be !!

Funny how you have the audacity to request that ST in BG refrain from commenting on your final (promises! promises!) message.

**That Was Rather "Curious" !!

Are you afraid he will tear it to shreds and expose it for what it is . . . pure and simple disinformation and diversion?

**Well There Was A "Strangeness" In That Request !! ... Although ... We Commented Anyway !! ... To Be Followed !! ... Hee Hee Heee !!!

In closing, a friendly reminder, Nibiru should be arriving soon!

**Yepper !!!!!

eye2sky

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 677142

Hi, everyone there:

+ Still want to comment on some things, for those thinkers that might be interested:

So there is a hoax (or a coverup campaign?). regarding Mars
approach to Earth when it is not to be close, and quite much of what It normally approach. curious,

NASA doesn't´t follow up on this hoax, of course. or at least not publicly. it would be too ridiculous. but some people already believe it as mail chains are sent without explanations, thorough ones.

**If You Believe Anything At All ... Of N.A.S.A (Only The Public Cover !!) ... & Of "Government Agencies" ... Of What They Say To The Public ... We Really Pity You !! ... For You Are A Fool ... To Accept On "Face Value" ... Anything That They Say !! ... You Know (Or Maybe You Don't ??) ... That Such Are Under "Security Contracts" ... And Of These ... "Latest Updates"
To This ... In A Time Of "Emergency" ... Of Which Things Are ... Well Up There & "Beyond Classification" ... If Any "Non Designated Leaks/Non Approved Leaks" Come About ... And This Can Be Traced Back To Their Source(s) ... Then ... That/Those Individuals ... (Depending Upon The Severity Of The Leak(s) ... Can Be "Reprimanded" ... As To Loss Of Pay, Rights, Privileges, Ect. ... Anything Up To & Including ... Terminating The Individual & Their Families !! ... Such That Do The Enforcing Of Those Policies ... Do Not Fool Around !! ... Until Then ... Just Like U.S.G.S. Is ... & Other Departmental Agencies ... They Are Under "Gag Orders" !!! ... To Say It Bluntly ... Keep Quiet On This ... Or Something Nasty Will Happen !!!

But. for explanations if anything large becomes visible sooner or later. probably the novas, mini novas, magnetars and who knows what more creative ones. surely could and would be given to the public.

**Dream On !! ... You Know Too ... That These Things ... Will Not Be Revealed To The Public ... Not In A "Come Clean" Way ... That Is Honest ... & That They Will Understand !! ... This Is Not The Hollywood Movie ... Deep
Impact ... Of Which The President Holds A News Conference & Tells The American People ... What Is Happening !! ... Martial Law WILL NOT ... Hold Back ... Nor Will It Stop Riots !! ... That Is A Pipe Dream !! ... And So They Have To Think Of ... & Use "Other Options" ... Such As ... Attempt To Sicken & Weaken The Public ... Use Any & All Methods ... To Keep The Lid On Things ... To Keep What Is Happening ... What Is GOING To Happen Quiet !!
... And Lie Like A "Son Of A "B". ... As There Is ... Much At Stake !! ... And For "Certain Ones" ... There Are Far Greater Things ... At Stake !!

probably wisely so or wisely "intendedly" so.

**Their "Wisdom" ... Is Based Solely On ... How Things Will Effect Them !! ... And Their Chances Of Survival !! ... Saving Their Own Skins !! ... So This Is How It Is Looked Upon !! ... Not & Never To Save The Public ... But Just Themselves ... & Those That They Need ... Those So Picked ... Of Their Own Families, Friends, Colleges, Ect. !!

until the last minute and just if it became necessary and possible. perhaps, luckily enough. this last minute
would not arrive.

**Again ... Such "News" ... Would Not Be Honestly & Openly ... Given To The Public !! ... Which Would Induce Mass Riots & Rioting ... Which It Is Agreed ... That Noone Wants !! .... So A "Blanket/Cover" Will Be Put On These Things ... Of Which Certain Ones Will Know ... And They Will Already Have Their "Safe Places" Waiting ... For Them To Get To ... (Providing They Are Not Detained/Obstructed ... In Any Way !!)

and then in later years or decades, through time. the
truths will be learnt/taught to the public. perhaps.. Just perhaps.

**After The Changes ... After The Upheavals ... And After The Planet Reawakens Into 4th Density ... In A Different Dimension/Part/Area Of Space ... Of Such Teachings .... Of How Things Were ... Much Of This ... How It
Has Always Been ... Will Be Lost !! ... Those Now Living & Visiting Terra/Earth ... Will Only Be Able To Speculate ... About What Might Be There ... The Simplest Of Things ... Such For Example ... "The Statue Of
Liberty" ... Of Broken Things Found ... Of Archaeological Recovery ... Being Considered Of A Type Of Totem Or Idol Of Worship ... Of "Religious Beliefs" Then !! ... In Which Of Your Day ... You Know ... Quite
Differently !!

I want to add one more comment regarding the "compromised"
situation of (mainstream) science regarding some great truths and most noticeably those that concern the true nature of the geological and climatological phenomena and it's the strong relationships with planetary and stellar phenomena/forces (including, very probably what relates with N)*

*(This is obviously for my fellow humans and not you of course, ST. for your "notice")

**How Do You Say It ... On Terra/Earth ... "The Fixtures Come With The House" ??? ... So You Post Such Things ... On The Thread Which Is Of ... Those That Ask Questions To Us ... For Us To Respond To ... And You Telling Us ... Not To Notice ?? ... Let's Try That One Again !!!

First, please NOTICE the following FACTS:

**No ... Not FACTS ... Not Complete Ones Anyway !!

1) Information, whereas probably sometimes limited or edited, had been and is currently available to the general audience concerning most issues involved.

**Now HOW Is That Helping ... If The Information Is Limited ... Edited ?? ... Even If The Public Could Gain Access To This Information ... It Is Already Been Changed/Altered !! ... It Is Comparable To Information Released Through ... "Freedom Of Information" Requests ... Having Copies Made ... Of Which Are Illegible & Blacked Out !! ... So The Party Requesting ... Only Receives A "Token Fulfillment" ... Of What Was Asked For !!!

You can actually look at the seismograms, download papers,
get views from real time sensors and webcams on some very active volcanoes, download databases and explore them, view and download interpretations (as given)

**If Ones Have Complete Access ... Which They Do Not .... To The Actual
Data & Informations !! ... It's Not As If ... The Real Story ... Is Going To
Be ... Let Go To The Public !! ... They Are Not That Stupid !!! ... This Is
More For ... Pacification !!

concerning all the information available and decide for yourselves if this interpretation is comprehensive (sometimes, actually quite often when the issue is specialized and unrelated.

often not so much when it gets "wholistic", as expectable). etc etc etc.. Then please NOTICE that
information, real and true information IS BEING put at the hands of the general audience.

**Not All The Information !! ... Sorry !! ... Not Buying !!!

2) As it is very evident that some of the issues regarding the above are quite "delicate", quite incompletely understood, quite mysterious still and quite sensitive for the public.

**Quite "Sensitive" Is Putting It Mildly !!! ... That Is Really Downplaying ... What Is At State ... Of What Should Happen ... If "Certain Things" Become Known !!

it should be expected that the complete truth/explanations advanced are kept on debunkable media like this,

**Not Exactly !! ... As We Have Stated Of "One Example" ... Of A "Governmental Program" ... That Was Altered ... To Release "Colored" Information ... About The Upcoming Changes ... & Of The Coming Of Nibiru !! ... Though Under The "New (Changed) Rules" ... Such Releases Would Be ... That The Source & The Informations ... Are Open To Any & All Forms Of Debunking !! ... This "Releasing" Is In Compliance With The "New (Changed)
Rules" ... To Afford To The Public (For Those That Can ... "Read Between The Lines") .... The Opportunity To Know ... To Get The Word Out ... To Those Who Wish/Desire ... To Be With Their Loved Ones ... When The "Time Draws Near" !!

while the official versions are much more limited, partial, sure and "tranquilizing"/"soft" to the public.

**The "Public" ... Will Not Know ... The "Official Versions" !! ... Not The Complete/Pure ... & Full Truth Of Things !! ... Not From "Terrestrial Sources" !!! ... That Would Not Be Their Way !! ... & Again ... They Have No
Secure Plans To Handle A Situation ... Where Panic & Riots Break Out !! ... They KNOW ... That Martial Law Declaration ... Will Not Stop The Riots From
Happening ... If It Is Known ... Fully Known To The Public ... Of What Is About To Happen !! ... So The Only Viable Methods ... Would Be ... To Keep The Public Distracted ... By All Means/Ways ... Keep Them Weakened & Sick ... So That They Cannot ... "Storm The Castle" ... Or The "Blanket Method" ... Simply To ... Give Them ... The "Mushroom Treatment" ... Keep Them In The Dark ... & Feed Them ... Lots Of "Bull----" !!

After all even the precise scenarios could not be determined with enough precision (or perhaps they could and
they had been?).

**If Such News Is Released ... And Not In A "Controlled Way" ... To The Public ... Then They KNOW ... Full Well ... What Would Happen !! ... Madness !! ... Riots ... Looting ... Death ... Destruction !! ... And All This &
Much More ... Before The Actual Events ... Take Place !!

anyway. what would you tell everyone and for what sake?

**Such Would Be ... A Most Difficult Question To Answer !! ... For Those In Such "Positions Of Authority" There !!

There are other ways, which take into account human psychology and the patterns of economical and social movement. Ways to allow for information to slowly permeate and to avoid undesired and probably unwise/unnecessary/mishappening damages from potential public reactions.

**In Other Words ... The "Mushroom Treatment" ... & Variations Thereof !!!

Then NOTICE that (what many call TPTB) governments (and/or those who govern, who direct, who are responsible). are doing exactly such things.

**OH Yes !! ... As THEY Know !! ... They Have Been Told !! ... As The Changes ... The Events On What Is To Happen ... Will Effect The Entire Planet !!

They are giving you sites like this,

**It Is With Purpose ... Not Simply ... Just To "Give" !! ... All All Things ... Factor In !!

they had allowed authors to write science fiction and not so much science fiction about many "delicate" problems.

**Not So Much As In The Writing ... But Allowing Such ... To Be Presented ... Out In The Open ... To The Public !! ... A Form Of Expression & Teaching ... And For Others ... A Way To ... "Condition" The Public ... As
To ... What To Believe !! ... The "Official (Terrestrial)Cleansed Truth" !!!

they had even allowed associations and "projects" that allegedly follow up on much more truly wholistic comprehensions.

**Such All Goes In Accordance With ... Well Set Plans !! ... Nothing For Those ... That Formulate Such Plans ... Happens Solely By "Accident" !!

THEY ARE TELLING YOU! It is unfair/unwise/meaningless to expect an official "confession". as for the unnecessary results, which must be avoided.

**They Are "Telling You" ... To Butt Out !! ... "They" Are Handling The Situation !! ... Again ... Go Home !! ... Nothing To See Here !! ... Nothing To Be Concerned With Or About !! ... No Need To Know This !!!

3) Its most evident, confusion and disinformation is used.

**Yep !! ... And Even Of What We Have Seen ... Of Certain ... "Terrestrial Scientific Attempts" .... To Dissuade, Distract ... & Can We Say ... "Debunk" !! ... To ... "Explain It All Away" ... Using The Venue ... The Way Of ... Faulty& Not Knowing ... "Terrestrial Sciences & Their "Understandings" !!

all of them from the slightest to the hardest. when it gets necessary in order to avoid harsh socioeconomic reactions. This not only should be expected, but it is not unwise, but sometimes necessary.

**Simply Put ... They Don't Want Madness, Death, Destruction !! ... So They Have Plans Set Up ... Put Into Place ... To Deal With These Situations ... Or So They Think !!

There are things that can be done and things that cannot be done, allowed things and not allowed things.
for the best not just of those who govern but FOR MANKIND AND THE WORLD.

**The Only Thing That ... "Certain Ones" Are Interested In ... Is To Save Their Own "As--es" !! ... They Could Give A Care ... About ... "Mankind & The World" ... Unless In Some Way ... It Benefits Them !!

Then NOTICE how unfair it is to think otherwise. what would you do in their place?!

**It's Not Unfair ... To Know ... To See The "Painting" For What It Is !! ... For What Lies Below ... The Layer That One Sees !! ... To The Truth Of Things Below !! ... And How The Public Is Being ... Led Around In Circles
... With A New Crisis Every Moment ... To Keep Them Off Balance ... To Keep Them Distracted !! ... To Control & Manipulate Them ... Until The Very Last Moments ... In Which Then ... Those So Controlling/Manipulating ... Will
Simply Disappear ... Into Their "Safe Areas" ... & Anyone On The Surface ... Will Be ... On Their Own !!

4) It might be that some or perhaps even many of the resources are indeed used in some selfish/particular isolated efforts for prevention and preparation,

**Of "Monetary Theft & Manipulations" ... To Build These Shelters ... And Only For Themselves .... You Bet This Has Been Going On !! ... That Is Where ... The Monies ... Have Been Disappearing To !! ... That & Anything In Relationship/Dealing With ... The Changes/Events To Come !! ... Again Though ... These Things Are NOT ... For The Public !! ... But For "Private Use" ... For Themselves Only !!

some of them might be nevertheless quite justifiable.

**To Save Themselves ... In That Thinking ... Sure It Is !! ... For Others ... No ... It Is Not !!

wouldn´t you. if able to think rationally and a well intended human being
that cares about mankind and the planet (and not just your finances or greedy small personal problems). wouldn´t you expect your government, your scientists, your doctors, your fellows.. Those informed about a potential threat for our civilization. to take preparations?

**Come Now !! .... Do You Really Expect ... To Sell ... That These People ... Will Really Give A Care ... About What Happens .... To The Public ... If They Knew !! ... They Would Be ... Thinking Of Their Own Survival !! ...
Sure They Will Make "Preparations" ... For Themselves !!

I wish a lot is indeed being made! At least some things are being made. it seems. and this include
sharing the information in the ways they had decided

**All Part Of The Plans !!

and much more things. of some which I notice I mention for you below.

Then NOTICE that not all is greedy/selfish based and that as we are all humans.

**There Is A "Great Deal" That Is ... Greedy/Selfish Based !! ... As To Being "Humans" ... That Is Your Body/Shell ... Not Of The Energies Within !!

as for our fallibility. it is likely that some efforts might had been partially distorted for such
things. including playing with people´s economy. BUT that's a partial and SMALL part of the story.

**Part Of The "Belief" ... In The Need For Distraction ... Of Manipulation, Control .. & To ... Take In Of That ... Which Is Needed ... Which Is Desired ... In Exchange For What Is Needed ... Before The Changes
Happen !!

5) What had they done for the public regarding "preparations"? Well, perhaps much more than I or anyone could be aware with.

**For The Public ... Are You Kidding ?? ... This Again Is NOT ... The Movie "Deep Impact" ... Where "Survival Shelters" For The Public ... Are Being Constructed ... For The Public's Use !! ... They Know ... There Are Way Too
Many Of Them ... So Their Solution .... (Other Then Those Taken To The "Safe Areas") ... Would Simply Be ... To Shut Them Out !! ... Leave Them On The Surface ... To Die !! ... Which Of Those That Follow The "Advocates" ... The Set Protocols ... Of What They Desire To Occur ... What They Wish To Happen ... This Fits In Well ... With ... "Thinning The Herds" !!

but I do notice the following, please NOTICE: The improved highway and transport systems in many countries;

**Is That Really ... Going To Matter ?? ... When The Surface Is Rearranged ???

the increase on security issues for preventing
fallible fellows from certain groups and/or countries doing unwise/stupid things with science.. That would harm some or many of their fellow humans locally, regionally and/or globally

**Try That One Again !!! ... We're Not Buying That One !! ... Especially Since The "Ones Who Are Guarding The Henhouse" ... Are The Ones ... Who Are .. Raiding The Chicken Coops" !! ... Suffice To Say ... While The Public Is Believing That ... They Are Safe & In Good Hands ... The Terrestrial Ones Who Are Guaranteeing This "Safety" ... & Making "Public Splashes" ... On How They Have ... Thwarted Another Attempt .... Are The Ones ... Who Are Deeply Involved Themselves !! ... Simply Setting Up The Scenes ... And Playing The Game .... That The Public Expects To See !! .... So What Is ... In Front Of Your Noses ... Is Not Exactly ... What Is Happening ... "Under The Covers" !!

(This might had a dark side, but if you realize the magnitude of some of our discoveries you would understand that we should change our ways.

**Yes ... We Have Cleaned Up ... Plenty Of Your Messes !!! ... It's About "Time" You Learned ... Not To Play Around With "Fire" ... Or You May Get Your Hands Or Worse Burnt !!

actually we probably should change a lot before
being able to use some technologies either researched by us or given/(or perhaps taken unwisely in the past) from others;

**You Should Have ... All Your "Toys" Taken Away From You ... Until It Is ... You Have Grown ... & Can Appreciate Such Things !! ... And Not Use Such Things ... To Hurt & Harm Others !!

although globalization had brought many pervasive/bad things (much of them a result of human greed and
an incomplete/unfair economic paradigm that is to be updated.

**It's All Going To Be Purged !! ... All Going To Go Away !!

if we really want to exist, to get really sustainable).

**Such Will Be "Sustainable" Only For A Short Moment !! ... Then It Will Be ... Wiped Clean !!

it also had made people interact with their fellows from other countries, religions and cultures (whatever
their history and particular motives/manipulations might had been), decreasing hate, decreasing intolerance. increasing love, increasing tolerance, interaction. making people understand and concentrate in their resemblances instead of their "tiny" differences, making them work for a
better world. and for taking care for their non human fellows, for the ecosystem services, for the whole planet (although still with small success, perhaps, in many areas);

**A "Forced System" Imposed Upon Peoples ... For The Benefit Of "Certain Others" ... Does Not ... & Will Not Work !! ... Programming Of Peoples ... Into Mindless Slaves ... Serfs That Work For The Slave Masters ...
Accomplishes Nothing !!! .... The Very Natures ... The Very Way The Beings Are ... From Within ... This Will Surface ... As It Always Has ... Of Discontent ... Of Unhappiness !! ... For When There Is Not Freedom ... There Is No Learning ... Only Stagnation !!

NOTICE that as a part of this "globalization" a lot
of infrastructure had been raised which includes large distribution centers and markets, that distribute mostly pathogen free food for a significant (but still insufficient) portion of the world´s human population and their artificial ecosystem.

**Pathogen Free Food ?? ... Allowing Of "Corporate Interests" ... That Wish To Control The Food Supply ... On Terra/Earth !! ... Prevent Heirloom Crops ... Saving Of Pure Unaltered Genetically .... Heirloom Seeds !! ... The
Forcing Upon Peoples ... Of "Genetically Altered Seeds & Plants" ... That Are Designed To Withstand Their Own Deadly Poisons !! .... The Purposeful Poisoning Of The Soils ... The Water ... The Air ... With Poisons &
Pesticides !! ... The Taking Away Of Nutrients From The Soil ... So That Crops Grown ... Are No Longer Of Healthy Nutrition !! ... The Forced Raising Of "Genetically Altered Planets" ... Which Have Less Harvest ... Amounting To Starving Out ... Thinning Out A Population !! ... The Spraying Of Crops With "Crop Accelerants" ... Such As In The Use Of MSG (Which Is A Nerve Toxin & Brain Accelerant ... Which Kills By Burn Out !!) .... All These Things And More ... For Profit ... For Agendas Of ... Culling The Herd !! ... Killing Off The People !!!

In the last years I had seen hundreds of large malls
and storage facilities being build in some countries I had been, even after the economic breakdown was unleashed (probably) these facilities had been continued. even in some poor areas where the stores remain partially empty.
I see they are building.

**And Who & What ... Is To Profit ... By These ... Large Malls & Storage Facilities ??

Don´t you NOTICE? What much more can they do? Build
a bunker for each human being?!

**They Have Built Such Things ... For Themselves !!!

What is being done is creating facilities
and advancing the production system to give it resilience against some of the problems.

**A "Band-Aid Approach" !! ... Look At What WE Are Doing ... To Help You !! .... To Which The People Are All Thrilled !! .... Though Not To Tell Them ... Oh By The Way ... We Know What Is Coming ... & What We Are Doing ... Is Just For Your Appeasement !! ... You Will Be Shut Out ... & Be On Your Own ... On The Surface ... When The Main Changes Come !! ... So Sorry !!!

What is being done is promoting a culture of optimal use of
resources, making the civilization to reduce its dramatic spillage of energy and giving green light for (finally!) an alternative to the petroleum corporate to grew and replace the aberrant/monstrous system we still have.

**Yea ?? ... Sure This Can Be Done ... Of That "Now" !! ... Because ... Those That Know Realize ... That This Will Not Happen !! ... The Public Will
Get All "Whipped Up" About ... Yayyyyy !! ... The Pollution & Control Of Petroleum Is Behind Us ... Alternative Energy Is Here !! ... Don't Count On It !! ... These People ... These Inventers ... Are Still Being Silenced ... Sill Being ... Killed Off !! ... And For Even Releasing To The Public ... A "Belief" ... That "Alternative Energy" Will Occur ... Is To Know... That It Will Not Matter !! ... The Whole Of The Surface ... Will Be Wiped Clean !!

This is extremely difficult to do, the resilience of the socioeconomic paradigm to change from human induced sources / intended and planned rational ones. is proving hard to face. but it is clearly being tried.

**Only Tried ... In That Thought ... To Give The Public ... Something To Chew On !! ... Something To Believe In !! ... With Others Knowing ... It Won't Be !!

6) Seed vaults are being built perhaps (probably) just for worst case scenarios, but as expectable.

**The One That Was Released ... That Was Given Of "Public Knowledge" ... Was Said To Contain ... Genetically Modified Seeds !! ... And Of Many "Corporate Interests" ... Which Were Involved ... In The Project !!

the public should not be overinformed about such things for many reasons, among which one could think on such
informations might create unnecessary concerns.

**Sure !! ... Don't Tell Them ... That The Seeds Themselves & The Crops That Spring From These ... Are Deadly To "Human Systems" ... And To The Life On The Planet !! ... Don't Tell Them ... That There Are ... "Hidden & Not So Hidden" ... Hands In That Cookie Jar !!!

7) Improved seism-resistant engineer is being used and
implemented in more and more sites. Construction baselines are being tightened.

**For All The Rules & Regulation That They Specify !! ... It's Won't Matter !! ... They Know It ... We Know It !!

However, you cannot displace economies/populations from known dangerous places for the uncertain possibility of an overwhelming (coming) damage that might not come.

**Well ... One Thing That Is ... Sort Of Agreed Upon !! ... While It Can Be Done ... There Are Many Factors Involved ... Which Are To Maintain Control
Of That Situation !! .... How & What To Tell The Public ... How To Get Them Prepared ... In An "Orderly Fashion" !! .... How To Keep Them From Panicking
!! ... How To Transport Them ... Move Them Out Of The Danger Areas .... There To Put Them ... Where They Are To Go !! ... Shelter & Food, Water, Ect. ... When They Got To The Safer Areas !! ... So Many Things To Consider !!!

**As To The "Coming Damages" ... That May Not Come !! ... Oh It Will !! ... Many Now ... Are Sitting On ... Powder Kegs ... That Are Only Awaiting ... For The Fuse To Be Lit !! ... For These Things To Blow !! ... And It Will Be
... As If There Are Many Powder Keys ... All Tied In Together !! ... For As One Goes ... So Will Another ... Then Another ... Then Another !!

actually you cannot do that even if you were quite certain about the challenge, because doing even a tiny fraction of
that would pose incommensurable problems to that economy/population and many others as well. It simply could not be done.

**Such A Moving Of Populations ... Would Not Be Impossible To Do !! ... But ... It Would Be ... Of All Things Considered ... Quite Difficult To Do !!

Actually we are overexploiting too much resources from Earth / Terra . we cannot grow and grow and grow, we
cannot be more and more and more. we SHOULD FIND OUT RATIONAL WAYS OF SHARING THE PLANET and face what we might had to face as well as we can do that, whatever transpires.

**OH Yes !! ... Terra/Earth Has Been ... Exploited !! .... Over Exploited !! ... As To Facing What You Can Do ... Whatever Transpires !! ... You Will Have To Face ... Of The Decisions ... Which Lies Ahead ... Of The Changes
... Of The Events ... Which Shall Transpire !!

Much more could be said, but without going much forward I will summarize:

I wish this words encourage you to think farther away of your often obsessed "conspiracy" thinking.

**It Is NOT ... Of "Often Obsessed "Conspiracy" Thinking !! ... As The Public HAS Been Lied Too !! ... Severely Lied To !! ... By Terrestrial Sources & The "Authorities" ... Which Supposedly ... Were & Are Of Benefit To ... It's Citizens !! ... But Truly Only ... Of Benefit ... To Themselves ... & Their Constituents ...Their "Partners" !!

and understanding that some might exaggerate on their sharings and/or manipulations.

**It Is NOT ... Exaggeration ... Of The Manipulations ... The Intent & The Ways Of Power & Control ... That Others On Terra/Earth ... Have Used ... To Persuade The Masses ... The People/Public ... To Do Their Bidding !! ... To Use Them ... For Their ... Own Purposes !!

A much better world might be possible and at least many things seems to had been done or are being done right now.

**Yes ... We & Others Are Preparing ... For The Changes ... The Cleansings ... The Arrival Of Nibiru !!! .... And After That ... The Rebeginnings ...
Of A New Cleansed Terra/Earth ... In 4th Density ... In That New Higher Energy/Vibrational Plane ... In A Different Dimension/Area Of Space !!

Mankind should join forces toward its improvement as it face potential challenges that might transpire (or had already transpired, such as climate change i.e.) related with. you know, or at least some might had a better idea.

**Mankind ... In Those Forms/Bodies ... Will Cease To Be !! ... That Is How ... It Will Be !! ... You Will Have New Bodies ... For The Greater Exposures Of Energies/Vibrations Of That Higher Plane ... Of That New
Dimension/Area Of Space !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: S. who C.: User ID: 677142

I want to add one more comment regarding the "compromised"
situation of (mainstream) science regarding some great truths and most noticeably those that concern the true nature of the geological and climatological phenomena and it's the strong relationships with planetary and stellar phenomena/forces (including, very probably what relates with N)*

The economic breakdown/crisis, the financial and political
"outbursts" and even the perhaps nasty flu might also serve to prepare people... to make them stock up without having to tell what is the challenge or what it might be... without having to explain what would be impossible
(almost) given the present situations...

**The "Economic Breakdown" ... The "Financial Crisis" ... "Political "Outbursts" ... Along With "Other Happenings" ... Were & Are ... All ... "Artificially Created" ... As Distractions ... For The Public To Pay
Attention To !!

**As To The Release Of A "Biogenetic Weapon(s)" ... (Shades Of ... Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek Voyager
... In Which This Thought ... Was Used In Certain Episodes/Discussions !!!) ... Of This There Were Such Weapons Developed ... That Would Seek Out ... Certain Genetic Traces ... Certain Vectors ... Of Beings ... And Attack & Kill ... Only Them !! ... Leaving The Others Alone & Unharmed !! ...

... And Of Your Day ... Science Fiction Has Become Through ... "Ambitious Scientists" ... Science Fact !! ... Intentionally Done ... The Results Of
Which ... To Keep The Public Frightened ... Distracted & Confused ... Thinning Out The Herd ... Making More Money ... By Selling "Drugs" ... That Have No Effect ... (And Why Would They ... Since These Are Created "Artificially" ... Through Genetic Engineering/Gene Splicing" !!) ... That Have Been Sitting Around ... Not Used !! ... Creating "Worthless Poisons" ("Vaccines") ... That Actually Help To Spread This "Genetically Created Disease" (Can We Say ... World War 1 ... How The "Spanish Flu" Was Spread !!) ... So As To ... Prolong The Crisis !! ... The Very Ones That "Supposedly" Are Helping To Investigate & Treat (Not Cure Mind You !!) ... The Illness ... Are The Ones ... So Invested ... In It's Effects !!! ... "The Hungry Fox That Is "Guarding" The Henhouse !! ...

**The Very "Clues" Which Were Apparent ... Were Not That Long Ago (In Your Time) ... Of The Desire/Need To Procure Samplings Of ... Frozen Dead Woman ... Who Died From "Spanish Influenza" !! ... "Supposedly" ... "Just In
Case" ... This Breaks Out Again !! .... That Right There Should Have "Been A Sign" ... That The Only Reason This Was Being "Investigated" ... Was To Make It Into ... Another "Weapon" To Use Against Those ... Who They Engineered This For ... To Kill !! ... The Same Goes ... For All Those ... "So Called "Biolabs" ... These "Safe Labs" ... That Are "To Study" ... Deadly Organisms ... Ones That Are "Incorporated Within Universities" ... And Other "Innocuous/Innocent Places" ... With Innocent Names !! ... They Are Nothing More ... Nothing Less ... Then "Biological Warfare Laboratories" !! ... Getting Their Monies/Funding ... From Those Who ... Make Their Money & Fulfill Their Agendas Through Disease & Death !!

DON´T YOU SEE that´s a quite plausible comprehension?!

**A Quite Plausible Comprehension ... Is "Soft-soaping" The Public !! ... Telling Them Only ... What Is Felt ... They Need To Know !! ... And Bull----ing ... The Rest !! ... A Variation Of ... The Mushroom Treatment !!

Take care ; )

**You Also !!

And with that i leave you. Good luck, be positive ; )

**Yes ... Of That "Superstition" ... "Good Luck" ... You'll Be Needing It
!!

Prepare for if whatever might transpire, do the best you can with the best we have, for building a bright future!

**Prepare For ... The Coming ... Of The Changes That Will Be !! ... To However You May !! ... To Which Later ... There Will Indeed ... Be Of The Bright Vision You Seek !!
___________________________________________________________

The best you can with the best we have.

WE, MANKIND, should try. WE... not the individuals...
we are all together facing the challenges,

**Oh You Are Going To Be Facing "Challenges" ... No Doubt On That !!

the outcome depend in
part on what we do and on how we react...

**The Outcome Will Be ... Of That Which Is Supposed To Be !! ... As We Have Foretold !!

even how we would manage through the natural part of the
challenges, but specially on those we pose to... ourselves.

**These Are Lessons/Teachings ... Which You May Have Come To Terra/Earth ... To Experience !!

Who speaks for Earth?

**Terra/Earth Speaks For Itself !! ... We Have Heard ... As Are Many ... To Prepare For ... It's Cleansing !! ... To Cure It's Illnesses ... Which Those On The Surface ... Have Created ... Of What They Have Done !! ... Hence ...
The Great Cleanser Arrives !!

We are not speaking very good, but this might change... perhaps we might had the opportunity to change this?

**You Will Know Once Again ... How To Communicate ... Telepathically !! ... Then You Will Be Able To Exchange ... & Understand One Another ... Once Again !!

Perhaps the opportunity is even now?

**For What Is To Happen ... It Is Approaching That Moment !!

Perhaps we indeed could learn to be keepers instead of threats for this marvelous world?

**In The Aftertime ... You Will Indeed ... Learn Of This !!

S. who C.

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

I will third that as now I feel partially or mostly responsible for your feelings toward discontinuing the telestrator tales and I'm feeling quite guilty. I do like the telestrator tales very much and do truly feel that they have a greater purpose beyond my understanding. I feel therefore they are important whether or not they are translated exactly right, and I'm sure you're doing your job quite well in describing them to us Wispy. We'll have some major breakthroughs eventually. So please continue with them, and ignore my rantings and ravings and disappointments, I am very impulsive and often act on emotion and don't think things through before I post them.


Since I use the generic anonymous coward handle as my username it can be hard to identify me out of the lot of us.If I had've used a user name throughout my postings here since 2007 then you'd have a way to identify me and know my nature by now, I'm just very impulsive and emotional. I get over my disappoinments quickly though. Please don't take it personally and continue with the telestrator tales. I do find them fascinating and am sure they are playing a very important role in all that is to transpire.

Thank you kindly and much respect,

AC 585606.

Anon 606..
You were not the reason I had not posted. LOL. The reason was that I had no further contact for a couple of days.. I have reported all of them that I can remember.

I was just confused by these last ones and wanted to run it by ST.

I know I have been given a job to do.. and I try to do it best I can. But sometimes.. I feel like I just fail. Not your fault. Sometimes.. I think I miss the key and do not hit on it until later. So sometimes, I just try to think on it before posting.

And when I get muddled like this.. they seem to understand and I have a couple of days off :)

I never really realized that people were looking forward to Telestrator Tales. But.. I do know how I get impatient waiting for ST some days :)

((hugs))

Wispy

ST, if i asked for that small favor (you failed to concede) it was because i thought you were going to break down... even all those things i might say that would actually be quite or completely coincident with what you said... but you really prove to be very good in turning every positive idea in it´s opposite. Shameful, i just tryied to bring a different appreciation, don´t you understood that? What i said is obviously not definitive, and neither what you "monsterized" about... (at least in part, surely so)

You don´t "buy" on many things i suggested and i don´t "buy" on your nightmares. We shall see, of course.

It´s difficult to contain myself from posting at least a brief response to such a large tergiversation / transformation of what i wrote... which anyway, which if it was more truth of what i might be conceding/accepting... it would be quite useless. What´s the sake for it anyway? What would it change?

It is obviously hard to quit posting on such an intriguing thread... as for asking questions to more advanced beings...(perhaps?)... If i am leaving posting... it is for not helping to feed such fearmongering writings/ideas. (For what sake?!) It is more than obvious that i do not intend to bring unallowed issues to the public... what you think i am? A godlike to change the world´s functioning? This is quite pathetic. Actually such a thing would be irrational and unwise... but perhaps i will write a science fiction novel slightly related... just perhaps... perhaps i will find such proposal futile or uninteresting... perhaps there will be no time, but i always dreamed of writing something not so technical. But get it clear: It will not be anything really compromising. For what purpose/sake?! (An idi__ic, unwise, undoing one? No way.) I neither expected to have a personal bunker, nor think on this sort of issues... for what sake? (Actually, probably and "luckily enough", such thing would be unnecessary). At least you can respect others taughts and leave us with our dreams... or is there something to be done concerning your nightmares other than to wait and experience? (sarcasm included)

Do not misinterpret me, i just do seek for a better world... and i just think the outcomes might be others... but we shall see by ourselves, of course... unless someone (you? doubtfully? hmmmm...) help us... or you are mistaken (why not undoubtfully so?) ; )

I will not argue you any more anyway, Chao

Best hopes for a better world ; )
S. who C.

ST,

Anyway, i would like to read your opinion/advice about the prospect of writing a novel slightly related with the current happenings? For example, a novel revealing to the general audience the expansive geology of earth as researched by Carey, Maxlow and others?

Could this be done? Is this allowed? How would authors discern what is allowed? Is it that this happen during the reviews and some of them had to cut down or change their books? Those this really happens? Perhaps you do not even know... but perhaps you did... and i am intrigued enough to post once more ; )

S. who C.

Those this really happens?
Errata: Those things... do they really happen?

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First of all mr. scientist - you spelled CHAO wrong. It's an italian word for GOOD BYE or HELLO - CIAO.

Descriptors for CHAO:
CHAO: is a modern religion centered on the idea that chaos is as important as order. (odd you continue to use chao considering this particular meaning).
CHAO: official banknote of the Yuan Dynasty in China.
CHAO: virtually generated lifeform from the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series.
CHAO: small islet within the Desertas Islands.
CHAO: is a Japanese shōjo manga magazine published by Shogakukan for young girls.

So as you can see SwhoC, there are many interpretations of the word CHAO which you are using INCORRECTLY as a goodbye or hello in Italian. Just as the interpretations in a word, such is the interpetations of the game of life.

I submit to you that YOU/yourself continue to cling to different interpretations of hopes for a "better world". These interpretations are spoon fed to the masses and lapped up by those that "need" hope because they/you cannot "see" outside the box that there is more than US, more than HUMAN, more than THIS!!

Life is everywhere, in many different forms, energies, and all you can see is this life here.

It boggles my mind that a professed scientist as yourself continues to bash ST and haggle government politics over and over. You are intrigued because ST's word stimulate your scarred mind. This is good, BUT not when you keep asking and accusing and telling the same old, over and over.

The government is but a pawn in the real puppetmasters's chess game. We/YOU are currently in check mate. The table is to be wiped clean and we will be enslaved no more; we, our energies will live instead of exist as is.... soon, very soon.

Canundrum

Hi ST
I have a memory of being bounced through the polestar portal.
No need to go into details here out in the open.
Question:
Do you have a clue for me why this was so extremely important?
I seem to have forgotten the reason. But I know the process of the journey was successful.

What a pessimist view... i understand now why you are so convenient with our "guest" and much impatiant for 'wiped clean'. it is not because WB said "the game is over" that you have to believe him...
First, the life is not a chess game, even not this world... second, if you keep this pessimist point of view, that is sure that you indirectly "serve" their purpose by staying 'passive' while believing that you 'can't do anything'...

Just for exemple, as an exemple of "what can be ..." :
So imagine that you know a big tall men realy more powerfull than you, he can eject you at the other end of the univers, but, this big tall powerfull guy have some problems : he ignore his power and is very naive and believe ALL that you can say... then, imagine that your are realy afraid of this guy, for exemple, because you are not realy a good guy, so you beleive that this guy is like you. Then because you are realy afraid of this guy, you want to control him, to prevent whatever he can do against you. To control him, you find a tips : tell to him that YOU are very powerfull, and that he is very weak and powerless, then, and he beleive you, and he are realy afraid of you now ! To complete the picture, you keep him on an afraid stat of you, and whisper to him some others things like 'you can't do anything', 'you are check mate', 'do nothing, just wait, you can't do anything against me', 'you are alone', 'all others are with me'...etc... You can transpose this story at ANY level of the reality and ANY aspect of your life, with who/what you want. Try some transpositions...

If you keep this pessimist point of view, that is sure that you indirectly "serve" their purpose by staying 'passive' while believing that you 'can't do anything'...

Sorry But this need some COLOR :o)

Yolgnu.

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"Bifurcation theory is the mathematical study of changes in the qualitative or topological structure of a given family. Examples of such families are the integral curves of a family of vector fields or, the solutions of a family of differential equations. Most commonly applied to the mathematical study of dynamical systems, a bifurcation occurs when a small smooth change made to the parameter values (the bifurcation parameters) of a system causes a sudden 'qualitative' or topological change in its behaviour. Bifurcations occur in both continuous systems (described by ODEs, DDEs or PDEs), and discrete systems (described by maps)." [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Hello, ST in BG!

This is a general comment in support of Canundrum's post regarding those who come to this thread to disrupt its content, rather than to ask legitimate, intelligent questions of you. It seems to me they should band together and start their own thread on how they are going to save the World (are you listening, Wannabe-Scientist-who-(supposedly)-Cares?) and leave this one alone.

As I have stated in a previous post recently, it is a sign of little intelligence to keep visiting a thread that you don't like or whose content you don't agree with. Maybe I need to repeat that . . . it is a sign of little intelligence to keep visiting a thread that you don't like or whose content you don't agree with.

Personally, I can't imagine even wanting to visit/troll a thread that did not reflect my personal views. So, these individuals are either getting paid to cause disruption, or they lack intelligence for continually coming back and posting their crap on a thread that does not resonate with them. There are hundreds of thousands of other Internet forum threads; surely they can find one (or start one) that reflects their viewpoint, where they can "knock themselves out," as the terrestrial expression goes.

Anyway, ST in BG, I'm so sorry that you have to spend your time and energy responding to these trolls. Sometimes I think it would be better to completely ignore them, rather than give them any satisfaction whatsoever with a response. I believe a response only encourages them. It isn't fair that trolls take time and energy away from you that might possibly be spent answering more questions of a legitimate nature, or in giving more elaborate answers to legitimate questions that have been posed.

In closing, thank you, ST in BG, for all that you do to enlighten us! You have FAR more patience than me, especially in trying to make sense of very strange (non-English?) wording in some of the posts. Boy, speaking of patience, one of those implants would be nice to have as I wait indefinitely for Nibiru to appear. Hint! Hint! Nah, just kidding!

eye2sky

Maybe Canundrum (and others) is (are) big intelligent(s) and don't need your advise to judge and understand what is what.