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**Quoting: ST In BG ...


**Now Of "ET Researchers" ... John E(dward) Mack ... He Is The One ... Who The Conduit Enjoyed !!! ... One Might Say ... "An ET On A Mission" !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!"


Yes indeed... interesting workings.

Yes indeed & Much Thanks in relation to your response to my
post,

**You Are Welcome !!

++ Thanks ; )

but...

But still... there were some "liars" (to an extent perhaps... but great liars after your words) as Carl Sagan...

**Well ... Carl Sagan Qualifies ... As A Liar ... A "Government Mouthpiece" !!

**He Died ... Of "Energy Poisoning" ... Of Advanced Cancer ... Due To Exposure To ... The Monolith ... A Probe/Marker/Beacon ... That Was Out In Space ... & Brought To Terra/Earth ... To Study !! ... His Denial & Dissuading To The Public Of ET's & ET Contact ... Caught Him In The End !!

++ It might be ... but the point is he did contributed to rise awareness of the general audience regarding science, development, space and environment. That´s what is not being recongnized/noticed ; )



... that wrote marvelous histories in relation with non human intelligences, that helped science popularization

**The Problem Is ... That These Individuals ... Are Ones Who Are "On The Outside... Looking In" !! ... They Do Not Have An Understanding ... Of "Non-Human Intelligences" !! ... And One(s) Should Question ... Whether
To Reach A Full Understanding ... Was Ever Their Purpose ?? ... As There Are Many Who Have Simply Used This Thought ... To Learn ... & To Bring These Learnings Out To The Public ... Yet ... They Have Had Their Own ... Desires
To "Tell The Story" ... As They & Other "Controlling/Manipulating Parties"
See It !!

++ perhaps...


and you dislike them, and you condemned them
(almost/basically/completely?) without consideration!

**We Despise Deceit !! ... Especially Of Those ... Who Have Been Purposely "Made Up" ... & "Paraded Before The Public" ... These "Terrestrial Experts" ... Who Are No More Then "Talking Heads" ... Giving Of The "Accepted
Position/Standing !! ... These To Us Are ... Of That Thought ... Act & Are Fraudulent !!

++ The example, Sagan, was more than this... he also illustrated people that in other ways would learn little or nothing about sciences... that´s what you are missing ; )


But still... you hadn´t said that the alleged protocols of sion are false and completely biased (intentionally!)...

**This Is Something Of Which ... Others Will Need To Make Of ... Their Own Determinations !!

++ They are flagrantly/evidently false and evil intended.

++ People/beings that forget history and endorse hatefull agendas condemn themselves (and others) to repeat awfull mistakes. It is possible and most wise to do otherwise

...

and when you are asked about one of those megalomaniac genocidal monsters mankind had had you almost absolve him!

**If You Were Talking About ... Adolph Hitler ?? ... You Need To Know ... The Full Story !! ... Rather Then ... The
Tale ... The Painted/Colored History ... Told By Those Who Profit/And Manipulate By Their "Rendering Of History" !! ... Of The "Full & Complete/Uncensored Version" ... This Would REALLY ... Open Your Eyes !!!

Why do you chose those dark paths?

**What "Dark Paths" ???

You speak both sublime truths as well as nefarious/terrible lies.

**What nefarious/terrible lies. ???

Don´t you?

**No !! ... Simply Of Understandings/Knowledge ... You Do Not Have ... Do Not Possess !!

++ Hmmmmmmmm ... of some implications of certain things that you said, they are quite likely lies in one way or another... or easily interpreted as such. The fact is that such individual in collaboration with other monsters, in collaboration with a fragment of those countries peoples, suggesting other ones which participate in certain ways, and using force and deception with many more... did perpetrated awfull crimes against mankind (and obviously to the land and other beings there), most terrible things of which we had even come to know by some people that were affected themselves/families and through the writings of many others.

++ Such things must not be forgotten, mankind should learn from its mistakes in order to avoid such funest natures and endorse creative/enlighted pathways.

...


Why?

We Seek "Full & Complete ... Untarnished ... Historical Accuracy" !! ... We Seek The Truth ... The Full Truth ... & Nothing But The Truth ... So Help You Hannah !!

Wouldn´t there be limits to the lies that are told?!

**There Is No More Limits ... To The Lies That Are Created ... Of The Original Lies ... & More Lies ... To Cover These Up !!

"Lies destroy trust in other people´s assertments; without such trust, social cooperation turns impossible or at least quite difficult; However such cooperation is essential in order to make human life possible and tolerable."

(Stephen Hawking, A Stubbornly Persistent Illusion)

**Yes ... However ... It Has Been The "Conduit's Feeling" ... That Steven ... Has Been "Groomed" ... (Recruited If You Will !!) .... To Take Over ... From The Position Of "Carl Sagan" ... As A "Governmental Spokesperson" !! ... As Like Carl Sagan ... He Is Highly Intelligent ... However The "Feeling Is" ... Of His Disability ... And Of People Looking To Him For Answers ...
This Would Be The Perfect Candidate ... For Such A Role !! ... Such "Feelings" Rather Were "Made Stronger" To The Conduit ... When There Was A Picture & Write Up ... Of A Local Paper ... A Public Gathering ... In Which
Stephen Communicated !! ... From What Was Said ... There Was This "Carl Sagan Feeling" ... All Over Again ... When It Came To Responses ... In Regard To ET's !! ... As If The "Party Line" Was Once Again ... Being Spread Before The Public ... As To ... "Government Position" ... & What To Believe !!

++ And now Stephen Hawking too... this is an example of what you might not be exactly trusted about... perhaps... or perhaps you have a point too...?!


Sometimes there are reasons that might justify some lies,

**If You Don't Lie ... To Start Off With ... There Is No Need ... To Tell A Bigger Lie ... To Cover Up The Original !!

++ Exactly... but... that is obviously not the general case for this world... currently. Isn´t it? Many don´t lie or almost don´t lie... but there might be cases in which, when nothing positive could be achieved by telling a truth, a white lie might result a wiser/compassionate election.


but aren´t you exaggerating?

**No !!

++ Sorry, but i had my doubts regarding certain issues. I am skeptical, you know... it is scientific/rational ;)


How could it be fair and wise?

**By Letting The Public Know ... Of The Truth In These Matters !! ... Though This Will Not Happen !! ... Too Many Have Made Their "Fortunes & Glory" ... On The Backs Of ... Other Peoples Labor ... Their Discoveries
... & Claimed These For Themselves !!

In certain issues trust should be given... in others it would be partial... in others it should not be given... beings should cultivate virtues and intelligence ; )

**The Issue Of "Trust" ... Is By Experience ... By Knowledge ... By Perception !!

++ Indeed... concerning your sharings on certain issues/experiences/knowledge/perceptions... perhaps you should be trusted... in relations to others... perhaps you might be partially trusted... and ... still, doubt might be more sane/wise in other ones..... isn´t it?



beings should cultivate virtues and intelligence ; )

**Yes ... However ... That Does Not Mean ... It Will Happen/Occur !!

++ Such things also happen and had happened/occured on a daily basis, but it is true that there is (currently) more irrational behaviour around... it is quite expectable given the current state of things with our civilization on Terra/Earth.


Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG