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Greetings: Ocean: User ID: 362085

Hi St in BG

Can you explain this

[link to www.youtube.com]

**No ... Because The Conduit Via His Computer ... Has Such Functions Disabled !! ... So It Cannot Be Viewed !!

and also i would like if you could tell us the events
surrounding the last passage of nibiru, was there life as is now,

**Of The Last Passage ... There Was Life ... But Not At The Stage/Development ... That You Have Of Your Moment !!

and what happen to the beings.

**They Died !! ... And Of Survivors ... They Too Died ... Over The Stretch Of "Time" !!

lastly, Will nibiru be effecting earth only or does it
have a larger focus.

**In It's Passages Through ... Your Solar System ... It Would Disturb The Other Planets .. To Some Extent !! ... However It Is Not Limited ... To Just Your System !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

I guess st in bg, was surprised i posted 2 minute after his post, any way's i've been on glp since 11am this mourning off and on, and researching other topics/subjects.

St in bg, any recent activity with florida sinking or the new madrid going to rip at a diagonal? Thanks for reading, Josh.

P.S. St in bg, do you think i spend to much time on glp? Also my question about do you like/enjoy posting to me, means do you like communicating back and fourth with myself (Josh) Do you feel i'm of friendly natures? Also i had many, many dreams where i would fly in human form but like a bird , not in no craft like airplane or helicopter, also i had obe which i got frightened so i slammed back into my body cause i awoke once, felt awake and i could see in 3rd density but i couldnt move my body , so i tried shaking and i felt like i slammed into my body and awoke again, a little frightened then went back to bed i believe, what do you think of this?

im a scientist at NASA, and i can honestly say that there is no nibiru,but i can say that NASA has been holding info about UFO's secret along with the CIA. I have the paperwork to prove this. i've been with NASA 20 years. As far as st of bg he doesnot exist. The extra-terrestuals are from Orions belt, and Alpha=Centuri.

im a scientist at NASA, and i can honestly say that there is no nibiru,but i can say that NASA has been holding info about UFO's secret along with the CIA. I have the paperwork to prove this. i've been with NASA 20 years. As far as st of bg he doesnot exist. The extra-terrestuals are from Orions belt, and Alpha=Centuri.

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 352485

Hmmm very interesting insights. I live in Canada so we are used to very many of our goods coming from the USA and also a lot from China and other places. We do have a good amount of products that are also made here in Canada.

Is it a detriment to all workers for companies to now be
outsourcing outside of the country they are based in?

Or is it a detriment only to those who lost jobs in the country of previous location and a boon to those in the countries that gained jobs due to the outsourcing?

What I mean is, do all the citizens involved(in both the country that lost the jobs and the country that gained the jobs) lose out because of this outsourcing or is it just more a zero net gain and one country loses out and another
gains effectively canceling each other out?

**It Is Too Much Of A Tangled Issue ... To Be Involved In/With ... At The Moment !! ... For These "Issues" ... Are Ones Of Many ... Created For Distraction !! ... & Soon ... They Will Not Matter !!

I thank you for your insights on my current plight of not
fitting into the societal mold so to speak. I do feel there should be/is a better way. Unfortunately most older adults don't necessarily feel the same way. Your comments have helped make things a bit more clear.

**That Way Is Ending ... And It May End ... Very Soon ... & Very Abruptly !!

I wonder what TPB's plan is for the stock market. I know its all manipulated like you said, but clearly some sort of plan is under way. Noise is starting to be made about a recession in the USA. Of course Canada's economy is closely tied to the USA I believe and so recession will hit here too I would think if it hits there.

**Recessions Are Illusions .... And Are "Created" ... For Undisclosed ... Purposes/Agendas !!

Seems like a slowish slide or acclimatization into the recession. The talking heads keep saying things like it will be shallow and won't last long, but I get the idea the plan is to collapse the system completely.

**A Controlled Collapse !! ... And If The Control Does Not Work ... Then There Is The Backup Plan ... Of Martial Law ... But Only As ... A Last Resort !!

Next would follow rioting among the peoples and declaration of martial law.

**If The "Illusions" Collapse !! ... For "Their Plans" ... It Is Better To Keep Such Illusions Intact !!

Personally I'm enjoying seeing the system go down even if it is an engineered collapse, though I feel bad for my parents and others that are planning for the future and whatnot with retirement funds and such. Hopefully they will eventually understand the whole thing was manipulated
anyways and see the truth about our monetary system, that it was a poor system to begin with.

**It Is Manipulated ... But For ... In "Others Eyes" ... "Greater Purposes" ... Involving That ... Which Is To Happen ... That Which Is To Occur !!

Also I've been getting a lot of Deja Vu lately.. feeling like I've already done something/been here before. As well as strong memories/feelings from earlier in my life. They are really strong feelings almost as if i blip back to that point in time for a split second. Really cool but odd as I'm not accustomed to this.

**Many Things Are Changing ... Overlapping ... Rearranging ... So This Is Not Surprising ... Of This "Upheaval" Too !!

Sorry for the inundation of posts, I keep remembering things I wished to ask.

**Yes Of Course !!

What is the purpose of fluoride being put into some water
systems? Surely its not only for our teeth.

**To Keep People Tranquilized ... To Keep Them ... "Dumbed Down" !!

Does it accumulate in the pineal gland?

**This Is One Of Locations In The Body ... That It Accumulates ... Builds Up !!

I'm not sure if its used in my area, but if its causing harm then I hope not, since I drink tap water daily.

**It Is "Added" To Many Cities Water Supply ... To (As Their Cover Story Is !!) ... To Help Prevent Tooth Decay !! ... Rather Then Preventing This Decay ... It Rots The Teeth ... And Dumbs Down The Populace !! ... It Also Gets Rid Of Toxic Poisons ... (For Those That Need To Dispose Of Such Toxic Waste) ... In A "Cost Effective Manner" ... By Putting The Toxins ... In The Drinking Water !!

Also aluminum in our deodorants that many of us use daily. Does this do us harm? What sort of harm if so?

**Aluminum In The Body Causes Malfunctions In The Cerebral Cortex ... The Brain !! ... The Body System Is Based In It "Wiring" With Copper (Not Aluminum !!) ... This Aluminum Therefore Puts Up A Block ... And Prevents
Certain Signals From Getting Through ... Which Causes The Symptoms Of What Is Called ... Dementia ... Alzheimer's Disease ... And A Host Of Other Symptoms & Diseases ... That Afflict The Body !!

Thanks again for the insights.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

To the poster Gordon/nasa,

What makes you want to come to glp , actually this thread in general? The poster st in bg exists, who is typing then, an automatic typing mechanism of some sort, a glitch in the system? Why cover up the existense of ufo, et's then, we have a right to know? What about the truth about the face on mars, how many other of you's jobs is to review this site and thread that are of government? St in bg said that it may be possible government sources are viewing this thread. What do you think of nancy lieder, huh Gordon? What is her purpose then to sell books off the gullible and also make money off her website and video's? Give me a break!!!!

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 206515

Hello, ST in BG

Many thanks for your answers!

I wish to ask you about some historical data.

You mentioned earlier, that the mankind on the Earth has been created with the purpose of training, passage of life experience and simultaneously for creation of a labor.

**This Is An Incorrect Interpretation !!

As you mentioned, what an overall objective, there was a creation of trade relations between people of the Earth (or extraterrestrial civilizations also?).

**Trade Routes & Trade Relations Were Established ... To Link Up All Peoples Of Terra/Earth !! ... And From There Perhaps ?? ... When Civilizations Had Developed & Matured ... To Expand Such ... To Other Civilizations Beyond Your Planet !!

Tell in more detail, how wished to create trade relations?

**We Cannot Tell You In Detail ... It Is Not Permitted !!

How, on an example of one working person, working conditions should be created, and what in replacements for the work this worker would receive?

If the barter exchange for work how it would occur, for example, with the manufacturer of clay jugs was planned? For example, if it needed to get a few olive oil either any other product or a subject which is necessary
for it in a life it would need to carry with itself the goods - jugs and to offer in replacements? And if its goods is not necessary to other seller who has necessary things for an exchange whereas?

Probably, therefore the monetary system of an estimation of work has been thought up?

**All Things For Such A System To Work ... For Those Involved ... Were Taken Into Account !!

But in fact now the monetary system works not correctly!

**This Was Not ... The "Original System" ... For Trade/Commerce !!

In this system there are discrepancies which not correctly estimate work of many people.

**It Is A "False System" ... The "Monetary System" !!

Why then Anunnaki which supervised over people, have admitted these mistakes in system of a payment?

**They Did Not ... Establish Such A System !! ... However They See Of The Corruption Of The Monetary System !! ... Of The "Disuniting Of Peoples" ... The Profit By Some ... At The Expense Of Others !! ... Which Was Not Of ... The Original Plan !!

With what it is connected?

**It Is Not Connected ... With The "Original Plans" ... To Unite All Peoples & Beings !!

Really with that, being in 3D human bodies, they tested on themselves the same feelings of greed, authority and other negative feelings which were in DNA at many people on the Earth?

**No !!

Or it were qualities inherent Anunnaki?

**No !! ... Sorry !!

Please, I shall be very grateful, if explain in more detail on these themes.

**We Are Not Permitted ... Allowed ... At The Moment ... To Give More Details !!

Thanks.

You Are Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: bocor: User ID: 325621

Hi there ST,

I was wandering if you'd heard of the skinwalker ranch in Utah?

**The Conduit Had Looked On This !!

supposedly where other dimension entities frequent, some type of anomaly that activity has increased in?

Also i was curious by reading up a bit on shamans views who spend much of their time in the astral via "ayahuasca" claim entities in other realms are attracted to us if we
conserve our sexual energy by not having sex or masturbating etc.

Is this true?

**It May Be For Them ??

They also say that these entities in the astral have "lost their way "so to speak and we should help them "let go" of what they are still attached to which is why they are stuck in the astral.

**Hmmm !!

So i guess entities need to learn how to let go of their attachments/fear in order to move through the astral? to their next assignment etc?

**Perhaps !!

One more question, Why do we learn so much from tragedy and can only make real progress by losing things in life.

**That Was The Choice(s) ... The Given Way(s) Opted For ... In Which To Learn !!

I only feel alive when i've lost or losing....Winning or succeeding for me causes greater long-term damage to my psyche i believe which raises all kinds of questions like why even strive to succeed in the first place if succeeding will do nothing but placate my ego and make me feel more self-righteous?

But true LOSING makes you take a serious look at yourself and strips away illusions effortlessly.

Or am i just delusional and just addicted to the feeling of losing.Its definitely a rush like losing $1000 hand of
blackjack is way more intense than wining $1000 blackjack.

Looking back on my gambling problems in the past i realize i played to lose even if i won i would continue playing until i lost so i could feel that heart pounding/hyperventilating bliss of an empty wallet...Am i sick?

**It Is ... Of The Lessons ... The Ways Of Teaching/Learning ... That You Have Chosen !! ... Others ... Have Chosen "Other Ways" ... Which May Be
Different ... Easier Or Harder ... Depending On Perspectives ... Then Yours !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

St in bg,

Is mouthwash bad for me? What's in it? Is tooth paste bad for me? So flouride liquid we soak on our teeth bad for me? What is a good way to clean my teeth? Is baking sota bad or good? Is shampoo bad for me? Is a bar of soap bad for me? What are the affects on my body of all these materials i mentioned? Thanks for reading, Josh.

P.S. Are cell phones really not a good thing to use? What about home phones?

Greetings: upliftedlala: User ID: 97439

Thanks St in BG,

**You Are Very Welcome !!

have a great day!

You Too !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

Hi st in bg,

I know you probably heard of the 62 children who eyewitnessed ufo's and et's back in terrestrial year 1994.

**Yes ... We Had Heard Of This !!

Was this you st in bg , the zeta's who visited these children and gave them telepathic information?

**We Cannot Say !!

Also, is this story true, did these children see what they said they saw or was it a hoax and the kids were
misinterpreting what they actually saw?

**There Was ... Contact/Visitation Made !!

It can indeed come as early as this year, but that's st in bg for you, because he gets everyone exited everytime he talks about it like that, and that's been going on since 2005 always talking about santa coming early, etc, so my friend don't hold your breath or keep your hopes up for
nibiru to pass through this year.

**We Have Explained Of These Things ... Many Many Times Before Josh !! ... We Are Sorry That You Are Frustrated In Your Waiting ... However ... The Conduit Also Has To Wait ... Until It Is ... The Moment To Leave !! ... So You Will Have To Practice ... Patience !!

I guess st in bg, was surprised i posted 2 minute after his
post,

**No ... Not Really !!

any way's i've been on glp since 11am this mourning off and on, and researching other topics/subjects.

**Hmmm !!

St in bg, any recent activity with Florida sinking or the new madrid going to rip at a diagonal?

**Of The Visions Of This ... Of The Conduit ... Not Recently !! ... However ... It Has Happened ... & Will Happen !!

St in bg, do you think i spend to much time on glp?

**Do You ??

Also my question about do you like/enjoy posting to me, means do you like communicating back and fourth with myself (Josh)

Do you feel i'm of friendly natures?

**These Are "Personal Questions" ... Which We Choose Not To Answer !!

Also i had many, many dreams where i would fly in human form but like a bird , not in no craft like airplane or helicopter,

also i had obe which i got frightened so i slammed back into my body cause i awoke once, felt awake and i could see in 3rd density but i couldn't move my body , so i
tried shaking and i felt like i slammed into my body and awoke again, a little frightened then went back to bed i believe, what do you think of this?

**These Things Are ... Curious/Interesting !!

Is mouthwash bad for me?

**Depends On What It Is Composed Of !!

What's in it?

**Depends On The Mouthwash !! ... There Are Those That Are ... Highly Toxic ... To Those That Are Of ... Healthy Elements !!

Is tooth paste bad for me?

**There Are Many "Mass Produced Toothpastes" ... That Contain Aluminum (As An Abrasive) ... As Well As ... Colorings & Flavorings ... & Other Ingredients ... Which Are ... Toxic To The Body/Body Systems !!

So fluoride liquid we soak on our teeth bad for me?

**It Is Not Healthy !!

What is a good way to clean my teeth?

**You Would Have To ... Research This ... Of Healthy & Alternative Sources !!

Is baking sota bad or good?

**Baking Soda ... Is Baking Soda ... It Is Neither ... Good Or Bad !! ... It Is !!

Is shampoo bad for me?

Is a bar of soap bad for me?

**Again ... It Depends ... On What These Are Composed Of !!

What are the affects on my body of all these
materials i mentioned?

**Of Toxicity ?? ... Disease ... Breakdown Of The Body & Body Systems ... Premature Aging ... Eventual Death !!

Are cell phones really not a good thing to use?

**Cellular Telephones Operate Via Microwave Transmission !! ... This Was Used In Your ... World War II ... By Germany ... For Long Distance Communication !! ... The Upside ... As It Were ... Is That One Can Transmit Via This Energy !! ... The Downside ... Is Exposure To These Frequencies ... These Energies ... Can Literally Cook/Fry The Body !! ... (Yes !! ... Just
Like Your Microwave Ovens !!!) .... As Is ... At Weaker Levels ... It Causes Cellular Disruption ... Brain Lesions ... Brain Tumors ... Cancers ... And Will Kill !! ... To Have These Devices Exposed To The Body ... For Their "Normal Use" ... Even By Carrying .... And To The Length/Duration Of Exposure ... This Increase Ones ... Unnecessary Risks !!!

What about home phones?

**It Depends On ... The Kind & Type ... Of "Home Phone" !!

Thanks for reading, Josh.

You Are Very Welcome !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

If it is better for them to keep such illusions intact why do they appear to be engineering a collapse? Thanks.

Also the information on fluoride and aluminum is much appreciated. I wonder if the aluminum has anything to do with aggravating my Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Greetings: gordon/NASA: User ID: 389053

i'm a scientist at NASA,

**You Are ??

and i can honestly say that there is no nibiru,

**Then You "Honestly" ... Do Not Know !! ... And If You Did Know ... Given That You Had Such ... Higher Security Clearance ... You Would Have Had To Sign A "Security Oath" ... Understanding To The Effect ... That If You
Told ... Or Let Word Slip Out ... Not Only Would Your Career Be Finished ... But Even Perhaps Your Life & Your Loved Ones Lives ... Would Be Terminated !! ... To Of Course ... The Extent Of Your Violations !!

but i can say that NASA has been holding info about UFO's secret along with the CIA.

**This Is Known To Us !! ... And "Other Things" !!

I have the paperwork to prove this. i've been with NASA
20 years.

**Yes Of Course !! ... However ... It Is Not Revealing Anything ... Which Is Not Known !!

As far as st of bg he does not exist.

**We Are Very Substantial ... (Poking Ourselves !!) ... Yes ... We Do Exist !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!!

The extra-terrestuals are from Orions belt, and Alpha=Centuri.

**This Would Indicate ... You Do Not Know !! .... Or Are Simply One Who Has "Visited" ... To Disinform !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: sasha: User ID: 190758

**In Response To ... gordon/NASA ... With Our (ST In BG) Comments !!

To the poster Gordon/nasa,

What makes you want to come to glp , actually this thread in general?

**Indeed !! ... It Is ... Most Curious !!

The poster st in bg exists,

**Yes We Do !! ... We Are Everywhere !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!!

who is typing then, an automatic typing mechanism of some sort, a glitch in the system?

**Hee Hee Hee !! ... Well He Is ... This Tall ... And .... Hee Hee Hee !!

Why cover up the existence of ufo, et's then, we have a right to know?

**To Keep Such Things "Secret" ... & Not Known !!

What about the truth about the face on mars,

**Oh You Mean ... The "Marker" ... ("We Were Here") ... Left By The Anunnaki ... Who Visited Mazar/Mars ??

how many other of you's jobs is to review this site and thread that are of government?

**It Is ... A Curious Thought !!

St in bg said that it may be possible government sources are viewing this thread.

**More Probable ... Then Possible !!

What do you think of nancy lieder, huh Gordon?

What is her purpose then to sell books off the gullible and also make money off her website and video's? Give me a break!!!!

**Well You Know ... What We Think !! ... Hee Hee Hee !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Greetings: Anonymous Coward: User ID: 352485

If it is better for them to keep such illusions intact why do they appear to be engineering a collapse?

**To "Play The Game" ... To Keep Those ... "Not In The Know" ... Off Balance ... Yet ... Under Control !!

Thanks.

**You Are Very Welcome !!

Also the information on fluoride and aluminum is much
appreciated.

**We Are Pleased !! ... Thank You !!

I wonder if the aluminum has anything to do with aggravating my Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

**First One Needs To Discover ... What Is At The Root/Heart ... Of This "Affliction" !! ... There Could Be Many Sources Of This ... Then Those Things ... Which Would "Inflame/Excite" The Condition(s) !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

Hmm I guess we can rule out a total collapse then. Maybe just a minor engineered recession.

Hello St.. ((hugs))

I like that.. The Marker..
I have seen satellite photographs of "the Marker" and it looks like a face from the top. There are also Pyramidal shapes too. Was Cydonia a city at one time? It looks like it was. Roads and other signs of civilization. But it has also been said the Bechtel has a mining operation up there in that area. Is that where I went when a group were taken there?

Anyway. HAARP seems to be set on 2 mHZ. It is making everyone tired. The past week I have had aches in my legs and back and have slept untold hours. Also ringing in the ears as well as a constant hum. Is this HAARP? What frequecy would be nedded to neutralize this 2 mHZ so that it does not affect us? I know 2 waves can cancel each other. I have not investigated where to get a freqency modulator. I am thinking 2mHZ would cancel.. but has been a long time since I studied this exactly.

We had a nice beautiful snow.. but was gone the next morning for the most part. The frogs are singing and the birds are busy and the squirrels are a riot at the feeder. Little scamps heist all the nuts and hide them. It is a fight between the Blue Jays and the squirrels for the peanuts. Daffodils and crocus are blooming. Everything seems normal.. but yet.. there is an energy or aire that is intensified. Can't really explain it.. Just different.

Anyway. I was reading about the 4 prophecies from the Native American visions. He said we had time to change at the first 2.. But not at the third...was too late.
1st.. Famine ( Africa/Biafra)
2nd... AIDS
3rd... Bloody Stars ( Nibiru??? ) coming
4th.. Going back to nature to survive

Was this vision true? Well I guess the first two have happened.. As those were the interpretations. But will the bloody skies at day and night be Nibiru?
Lastly.. I do not know about #4. Survivors will not be found for long.. Unless it is the return of mankind later.
Many Native Americans have their prophysies.

I am getting antsy to get my garden going. I hope it will have time to produce. Sometimes I see flashes of light and the swirls in NOW. Is the other still overlapping? It is not as vivid as I saw it like snow. Just swirling movement. Briefly.. then gone. More like a distortion in the fabric of ?? time? space? The sun is still very, very bright. Moreso than in the past. And still seems to be distorted in shape to me.

((hugs))

Wispy

Hmmmmmm... and you "guess" "that" how???

What is "total collapse" indeed? It could be many different things/fields to many different perceptions/beings!

We have mess things, unfortunately, and whereas solutions are available and being implemented as best as possible (try harder!)... a hard "collapse" is almost unavoidable in many areas... most obvious... let´s make it not so harsh and get transitions to an alternative civilization in which we/other beings can live further.

Would you rather prefer a plannified "collapse" or a total mess and widespread failure of human civilization? The later could be much more worse... for all beings on Earth.

Hope for as minor as possible nevertheless, but understand that this is far from minor... and quite difficult...


Best wishes for all beings,
A scientist who cares

Hi there,

Maybe you can post something more substantial than you have, oh! or maybe you are not allowed ... as ST prefer or is not allowed too... for whatever reasons (preemptive, precautionary?... or maybe ... unavoidable? Heee Heee) and for whoever/whatever she/he/they/it is...


BUT... SO?


By the way, what matters if you have a paper work proving UFO´s, unless you are NASA "CEO" (maybe much more than this, you would need to be a powerfull gruop rather than an individual, or not?)... or can move things... it changes nothing at all, sorry... NASA has done great jobs, fantastic things... still they most obviously are not sharing relevant and appealing information at least in some fields...

WHY???



Greetings and best wishes for all beings,
A scientist who cares

**What You Are Asking Is ... If Everything Stays The Same ... & Does Not Change !! ... The Variables ... That Shift & Change ... We Constantly Have To Keep On Top Of ... To Calculate ... Recalculate ... & Then ... Recalculate Some More !! ... So Nothing Remains Stagnant ... Nothing Unmoving ... Everything Is Changing !! ... And So Of Your Question In Regard To
Nibiru Being On Pace With The Previous Calculations/Estimates Given ... We Can Only Say ... This Is A Gusstimate ... A Strong Guesstimate ... But A
Gusstimate Nonetheless ... .Do To The Ever Changing Variables & Constants/Non Constants In The Universe !!




So you are "GUESSING" ST in BG?
Just curious, heee heee hheeeeee

Greetings and best wishes for all beings,
S. who C.

Im still on the fence about nibiru...there seems to be some strong evidence for it and also against it.

Alli know is that this universe and everything that makes it up around us is more intense and awe inspiring then i could ever dream of... so it could be very likely a great power can come and take it all away on us...

but it still at the same time seems to sci-fi and looney to even this that nibiru will 'wipe' us all away...

anyways...my brain hurts, me need zzzz

Hi everyone there,

OOUUUUPS! WAIT A MOMENT!!!

Aren´t many ecosystem´s processes and biodiversity in a large part of this planet ALREADY COLLAPSING?



Think about!

A scientist who cares

The poster st in bg exists, who is typing then, an automatic typing mechanism of some sort, a glitch in the system? quoting Josh...

Maybe? How can you rule this out?

Had you thought that the possibilities for meeting other intelligences creations (i.e. artificial intelligence and technology) are actually much higher than directly meeting the biological entities, if any still exists and that is possible in space/time? I cann´t rule out either possibility. Concerning ST in BG, she/he/they/it can be whoever/whatever possibility. I would think rather on not a necessarily (not likely?) extraterrestrial one, but still... the opposite may be true... we cann´t test most of his most impactant and swampy assertions... for now... and of course, as possed, they are mostly swampy and ambiguous... and often intriguing ones...

Best wishes
S. who C.

Hi Wispy,
Funny, I was out working in my garden over the weekend..even though our temps are just around freezing...in the day it does go up somewhat. I was able to harvest...amazing....as we've had sub zero (-7&-8C) temps quite a lot... got Brussels sprouts, beets, both a green cabbage and a red one, a bunch of leeks, and of course the kale is still doing well..it likes the cold....and the rhubarb is beginning to come up..yea. I have gobs of weeding to do...dandelions...and other difficult ones... and the earth is like mud (clayish and mega wet)..but that makes it easier to get the weeds out...just messy.
I started seedlings on Sunday. English peas, fava beans, beets, sugar snaps and spinach. Tomorrow will do herbs and next weekend more veg. They'll be inside in the spare bedroom for 2 months or so and then must be hardened off in my cold frame...then..must ride them out to my garden on my bike...(many trips!!!) but my allotment is only 5 minutes away by bike. I don't know what to do about tomatoes...last year we had so much rain, they all rotted, as did everyone's nightshade plants..bad year for potatoes, and eggplants all...it was mega wet from June through November and the darned slugs ate up all of my pumpkin plants...gosh I was angry about that.....
In one of his communications...a month or so ago, ST said to go ahead and do the work of turning over the soil, and planting...that way I/we'd have veg...whether PX comes or not... seemed like he was "hinting" that it may not be so "soon". We've got daffies too now and crocuses...great to get some color..and the bushes are beginning to leaf out. Wish it would warm up a bit more...and that we'd get a little less rain...Funny, our conditions sound similar to yours..even though we're quite a bit further north...the birds are singing now and beginning to nest. The ducks in the river out front have nests already.... I'm sorry to hear about your pains...I've been having strange ones too...not pleasant at all... but perhaps as it warms up, and I work out in the garden I can work them away..hope so...
Well, hope you have a good garden this year...with prices rising,it sure seems worth the work...
Best to you, Silent Companion

Well .. It got up to 64 today. Lol. 70 one day 30 the next. I put some more nuts out for the squirrels. It is now a baited field for the cat who has just taken up residence underneath the feeder.. LOL. They are all scamps.

Hope your garden does well also. Yes the cold does not hurt many plants. Sounds good. We had pretty good luck with a tomato called Mortgage lifter. It is also a pure tomato ( non hybrid).

((hugs))

Wispy

Show me a visa and passport or face deportation hearings.

Hi Wispy,

I understand your concerns, but it seems we have somewhat different perceptions on these issues... maybe not so different at all, he he Let me try on your points:

I have to suspect the motives of those who shove EVOLUTION down one's throat without any other possibility including intelligent design

+ I would too suspect on their motives if i´m not to recognize what human history is all about, how human feelings / behaviours are and specially how prompt we are to ritualistic/demagogic positions. It´s a very human property to search for confidence and at least a well distributed vertebrate (and particularly mammalian) behaviour to be curious and... even to seek for detailed explanations. I would rather ask:

And what does (most) human beings usually do regarding their cherised believes? Didn´t we even attempt to transform our understandings in believes?


Otherwise.. why do they try to outlaw Intelligent design? And also make it a crime to mention it?
THAT.. is not taking into account all factors or evidence.

+ I think it is perfectly expectable from HUMANS. Isn´t it? That most highlight our failures and weeknesses, and looking to avoid them is within the goals of well done science. Is there "intelligent design" and hard proofs for it? Well, of course proofs remain elusive and swampy... but that doesn´t rule out the possibility for interventions of some kind. We don´t know and have not proofs for that, so it could not be a question for science... evolution by the other hand is a testable question... it has been questioned and its comprehension is being improved in many fields. It is not just a question, but has revealed a fact on natural history... a widespread and overwhelming fact in which we should choose to observe and understand, rather than believe and shove down whoever´s throat. So i doubt there is some relevant hidden agenda on nature´s observation, things don´t go in this direction even when some people had "used" and actually use this and other fields/knowledge from science for their agendas with different intentions and different results.


So things do have common links. An architect is also known by the appearance and the common materials of his creation. So is an artist. A Michelangelo, or a Picasso or a Monet can be identified by the design, elements and pigments.

Do you not think a Creator has the same palette to work from? I will admit.. evolution has been occuring since creation. Downhill. It is almost as possible as an explosion in a printing facility producting the dictionary.

+ A Creator may had had or have anything, being and omnipotent entity or being everything, conscient or not conscient about... but all this are untestable questions for science, so it didn´t engage on questioning them. Evolution never rule out, neither it explains about the overall creation but a KNWON part of this creation (known for us, human beings and accesible for posing questions).

+ Hmmm, regarding this: "It is almost as possible as an explosion in a printing facility producting the dictionary."
I would say it is a very uncomplete and misguided comprehension, a very imprecise example at least... for what an explosion in a printing facility, whereas it may have some patterns, resembles any of the constructive processes and recurring patterns observed in evolution. It is highly unlikely (not completely given the enough repetitions in an infinite universe, but almost impossible in human terms) for a dictionary being produced in such a way, while beings are evolving all the time and by very pattern/like but still rather stochastic processes. Evolution is not a denial of creation, it is rather a profound part of the creation.



+ Regarding you questions toward evolution and "today" i would better say that YES, we observe evolution happening in front of us and there is plenty of proofs for it. We don´t see exactly "evolution" as it´s for a process, a system... we see much more its results and the patterns governing changes, still creating diversity in this very moment. Molecular scientist and microbiologist had studied it on bacteria and protozoa, among others. Together with geneticists they had tested/observed evolutionary patterns directly on these organisms and in larger pluricelular forms, specially on some diptera, such as Drosophila, and in some other arthropods. Ictiologist had seen evolution on place in the lakes of central Africa and in a less impactant way... also in other water bodies throught the planet. Paleontologist had looked back and look back in the most inquisitive and comprehensive way it is possible, and they had found regular patterns of CONTINUITY among plenty of organisms, some of them still living or with living descendants. Population biologist had studied the gene drives in many organisms and found relationships on the biogeographic knowledge on some of this organisms.

+ Survival of the best fitted is an incomplete understanding of evolutionary process... it is just a part of what goes on... even not the most important part as with scientific research we had been able to identify other patterns/phenomena, among which i would highlight "mutations" (natural and artificial, through different processes often quite well understood) as the main source of variability (even Darwin pointed to this as a source); genic derive and natural selection processes at different levels as variability drivers on the population and species levels; macroecological processes and stochastic events on the higher levels. Mutualism (simbiosis and several levels of association and cooperation between organisms) had been prooven even more common and relevant than just competition and predation in the overall process. What we have is a model of evolution, a comprehension of what has been going on, one that approach as much as possible to what we can observe, what we had observed... evolution itself is a natural process, part of the creation... our comprehension can give enlightment on how things works... but is unsuited for unveiling the very start of life and the possibility of a Creator. They are just very different things, not incompatible, nor opposite things.

+ Teachers and even many scientist may fail to recognize their very human failures, plenty of them may be sheeple/ritualistic/believe prompted... this is not a scientific failure but a very human failure... much more deep and often close minded when comes to other areas of human development, and particularly... religious areas.

+ I don´t see any contradiction/opposition between the scientific discoveries and the possibility of interventions, at least we already had performed plenty of it with the small fraction of species (very small) with which we are closely related. An advanced civilization may be able to perform much more of this in a much more complex way... they will be able to even change the direction of evolution in a large degree.

+ For what concerns for Evolution, it´s a complex process, an intricated and marvelous system remaining to be comprehensively understood, and also... a well known and well worked theory explaining what we already had understood. Whereas chance has too a role, most of evolution has little to nothing to do with chance. It is a very different understanding. Evolution is an observed fact of which we have a possibly incomplete theory (as complete as possible), it´s a fact about the Creation!

+ For what concerns for a Creator, i just don´t know. That´s not a "scientific question" but what a great one. Why not?


Best wishes,
A scientist who cares

There are solutions, there are hopes...

things here can be much different, better indeed...

But we risk too much, we must advance and better...


TAKE RESPONSABILITY AND IMPROVE OUR WAYS FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF HUMANKIND AND ALL EARTH´S LIFE !

S. who C.

Hello St in Bg,

I appreciate, from and learn all the answers you give to so many of the OP's. Of course I start thinking about some of the answers and need clarification.

What do you mean by " ... Nibiru can suddenly appear when needed..."? What qualifies as " needed" ?

Looking forward to your answers,
Thank you,
ski