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Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?

 
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Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
GOD has said Man will have 6000 years that will be under the curse of evil and Satan due to Sin in the Garden of Eden, however the 7th year 7000 yr goes back to GOD and the 1000 yr Millenial Kingdom will be under Christ's rein.

This wednesday Sept 8th is the Start of the Jewish New year
5770 Rosh Hashana. 230 years until the 6000 year...


However the Bible and Genesis does not tell us how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden before they fell to SIN. I imagine that was intentional, otherwise people would be able to count 6000 years until the end of time.

However Satan and his Angels know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden and when they fell, so they must know when Jesus is Coming back...


WHat is your understanding?
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No, and according to the Bible, Jesus doesnt no either. Talk about a cluster fuck.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
NOPE

Only GOD knows the day and the hour of Christ's return.

Jesus does not even know.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
Revelation 20:1-5 clearly prophesies that there will be a 1,000-year (millennial) period in which Jesus and the saints will reign.

Since 2 Peter 3:3-8 records that the 1,000-years-for-a-day principle is valid in considering prophetic timetables regarding the return of Christ, I believe the 7,000-year plan of God is still scripturally valid.

Sinless time too short?

The Bible implies that seven years of "sinless" time may be too short. It is worthwhile noting that Jubilees records that the sinless period in Eden should be measured in years, not merely days or months.

This makes sense. Even if Adam and Eve were created with mature physical bodies and adult language skills, their minds were as new as those of newborn babies. Like any human being, they needed time to mature before a confrontation with the serpent could possibly serve as a reasonable test in God's eyes.

If God allowed the tempter access to Adam and Eve before our initial parents attained a reasonable level of maturity, this would hardly have been a test of their character because Satan's effort would be as easy as taking candy from a baby.

Let's consider: How mature are most children at 7 years of age (the sinless period recorded in Jubilees)?

Adam-and-Christ parallels

In 1 Corinthians 15 Paul repeatedly asserts direct parallels between Adam and Jesus.

In verse 45 he refers to "the first man Adam" who was made "a living soul" and "the last Adam" who became a "quickening spirit."

In verse 22 Paul states: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

In verse 47 he refers to them as "the first man" and "the second man." Paul three times asserts a direct linkage between the lives of Adam and Jesus ("the last Adam" or "second man").

We do have a biblical answer to the question of how old Jesus was before God allowed Satan to seriously test Him to see if He would "fall" like Adam and Eve did.

Just before the account of Satan being allowed to severely test and tempt Jesus in Luke 4, Luke 3:23 states that Christ was "about 30 years of age."

If even Jesus were allowed by God the Father to develop 30 years of human maturity before experiencing severe temptation from Satan, might the "first Adam" (and Eve) have had the same period in Eden before God allowed Satan to test them as well?

Not for sure

I want to stress that we do not know for sure how long their period of sinless development was, but, given Paul's tripled assertion of direct parallels between Adam's life and Jesus' life, this has to be seriously considered.

An Old Testament requirement supports this viewpoint. In Numbers 4 God gives the requirements for men being allowed to function in a priestly capacity. Seven times in that chapter God states that no man was eligible to serve in priestly functions until he reached the age of 30.

Hebrews 4:14 calls Jesus our "high priest." Acts 10:34 adds that God is no "respecter of persons"; that is, that He shows no partiality.

Given that even Jesus was required to reach the age of 30 before God allowed Satan to severely test and tempt Him for His priestly role, did God allow the first Adam also to reach that age before Adam and Eve were likewise tested by the serpent?

If this is the case and Archbishop Ussher's calculations are correct, then the end of this age could come as late as about A.D. 2026 (utilizing the 6,000-year calculation method).

Modern scientific studies have confirmed that the frontal cortex of human brains, the location of judgment, does not fully develop until after the teen years.

If this has been a normal development pattern for all human beings since creation, it makes sense that God would allow both the first Adam and the second Adam to get past the stage where their physical brains were still forming before allowing Satan to confront them with severe testing requiring the full use of their senses and mature judgment.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
If you find Azazel ask him.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
No, and according to the Bible, Jesus doesnt no either. Talk about a cluster fuck.
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Jesus has a timeline bu Scripture..

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
MATTHEW 24:22
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
NOPE

Only GOD knows the day and the hour of Christ's return.

Jesus does not even know.
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Revelation 12:12 prophesies that, as the end of this age draws near, the devil will have "great wrath because he knows that he has but a short time."

This account confirms Satan knows that the end of this age and the return of Christ are fixed to a specific timetable that dictates that he is running out of time to do his deceptive work.

This affirms that Satan is keenly aware that there is a divinely appointed timetable for him to influence mankind and that this timetable is a nonnegotiable, godly deadline that is about to expire.

This timetable has to be the 6,000-year period for mankind to "labor" under the rule of Satan and sinfulness.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
i feel the circular scripture quote vs quote argument coming soon.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
Not the day and hour

In Matthew 24:36 Christ stated that neither He nor the angels knew the day and hour of His return. This makes sense because in verse 22 He prophesied that the end of this age will be "shortened" by an unspecified number of "days."

Christ's language confirms that our age has a divine timetable that will be slightly "shortened," but Christ's words do not allow for this age to be "lengthened"

It is important to note that Jesus never said the angels did not know the year of His return. Since the angels all know the year of Adam's and Eve's fall, and they can surely do simple arithmetic, they can calculate the exact year that the 6,000-year period will end.

The fallen angels' comments in Matthew 8:29 also indicate that they knew there was a fixed timetable for them to be free because they asked Jesus if He would "torment [them] before the time."

Revelation 20:2 shows the future period of restraint for Satan and his angels is based on the same one-day-equals-1,000-years principle that governs the length of the Millennium.

Readiness

Jesus did say in Matthew 24:36 that God has reserved to Himself some flexibility regarding the hour and day when this age will end.

However, Jesus said that that flexibility would result in our age being shortened by a few days, not lengthened by years or decades
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
It appears from Matthew 8- Fallen Angels (Demons) did know a Timeline for there demise..

The Healing of Two Demon-possessed Men

28When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes,[d] two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were so violent that no one could pass that way. 29"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"


30Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31The demons begged Jesus, "If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs."

32He said to them, "Go!" So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region.
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Re: Does Satan and the Fallen Angels know the exact day that Jesus Christ is returning to earth?
This wednesday Sept 8th is the Start of the Jewish New year
5770 Rosh Hashana. 230 years until the 6000 year...

This wednesday Sept 8th is the Start of the Jewish New year
5770 Rosh Hashana. 230 years until the 6000 year...

However the Bible and Genesis does not tell us how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden before they fell to SIN. I imagine that was intentional, otherwise people would be able to count 6000 years until the end of time.

However Satan and his Angels know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden and when they fell, so they must know when Jesus is Coming back...

WHat is your understanding?
 Quoting: Susie 973323

2 Peter 3:8 -- But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day.
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1000 divide by 24 = 41.666 per hour

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2Enoch.32:[3]And I blessed all my creatures visible and invisible. And Adam was five and half hours in paradise.
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41.666 multiply by 5 hours = 208.333

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1/2 hour (20.833) = 229.188 years.

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