Demand LAWFUL MONEY -- put the Fed outta business !!

All legal tender is not lawful money or there would be no legal terms "lawful money" nor "legal tender". FRNs are redeemable on demand for lawful money, it is logically impossible that FRNs are or ever were redeemable for what they already ARE.

In 1913 when FRNs were little more than interbank lending instruments , you're right. But since 1933, the role of FRNs was *vastly* expanded, becoming a national currency.



And when that happened, it became lawful money. Which is why when you redeem FRNs under Title 12 USC 411 *after* the changes of status of the FRN in 1933.....you get more FRNs.

You keep trying to pretend that the 1933 law never happened. And that's neither logical nor legally sound. As neither the law nor the courts ignore the changes just because you do.



No where does Title 12 USC 411 even mention US Notes. Ending that entire line of reasoning. And you can 'redeem' FRNs under Title 12 USC 411. You get FRNs of equivilant value.

This question was already asked and answered about 40 years ago:



Milam received FRNs for FRNs. Which the courts upheld as valid when they dismissed Milam's case as 'frivilous' and 'meritless'.

Last week, I called the Federal Reserve myself and asked. I even gave you the number to do the same. They told me the same thing that they told Milam: 'redeem' FRNs and get FRNs.

And they told me that the US government no longer issues nor even carries US Notes, save for a tiny handful (one of each demonimation ever issued) in their public museum. They destroyed all other Notes in their possession about 20 years ago...after Congress told them they could.

There's nothing save FRNs to exchange FRNs for. Your entire argument is based on a fallacy that was debunked 40 years ago.

And of course, you've never shown us anything that indicates that you're magically immune to taxes once you demand 'lawful money'. You simply say that it must be so. Citing just yourself.

And you don't know what you're talking about.

Show us anywhere in US law, US court rulings or the IRS website....that indicates that demanding 'lawful money' makes one exempt from taxation.

You can't. Its just you....citing your imagination.

And your imagination isn't the law.

Call the IRS your posts on GLP are not law either.

Make the call!!

What are you waiting for? You really think you can figure out what is so wrong about what I am doing and the IRS CAN'T?

Make the call, cause all I see is the same shit postulating from you when this could all be resolved in court.

Call em because I am never going to agree with you.

Demand is made for lawful money per 12 USC 411.

CALL THE IRS AND REPORT ME!! SHILL!!

Lets GO TO COURT!

Legal tender is to lawful money as statute is to law.

Remember that from 2nd grade?

FRNs are legal tender, but NOT lawful money until you make the formal demand - on record - under title 12.

Each
"Citizen" opts in to the federal reserve act when they neglect to demand lawful money and instead use "legal tender."

Demanding Lawful Money is the way out of the Federal Reserve act.

...Food for thawt...

Results:

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Says who? Title 12 never defines lawful money. The US code never defines lawful money.

And the courts have recognized FRNs as lawful money.

Try again.


Show us the law saying this. Show us any court ruling saying this.

You can't. You're citing yourself, making up this nonsense as you go along.

And your imagination is not the law.

Laughing.....what bravado from a guy going as 'Anonymous Coward'.

You go anonymously. The folks you're trying to shill your latest tax avoidance con to have to use their real names.

Posts the anonymous coward.

What a joke you are. Do nothing, because you can't do anything.

Notice the shill glosses over the results of lawful money demand, again.

Dude, I'm not demanding anyone 'turn me in'. You are. But only while boasting of your immunity from the law anonymously.

But the folks you're trying to shill your latest tax con to would have to use their real names.

Oh, and we're still waiting for you to show us any law or court ruling that states that demanding 'lawful money' makes you exempt from taxation. Or any law or court ruling that says that you must receive US Notes when redeeming FRNs.

You can't. Its just you citing your imagination. And your imagination isn't law.

You can't get around that.

Still waiting for you to post who is paying you.

Thanks for the bump!!

You're the one shilling your website, buddy. Exactly as I predicted you would.

And 'Lost Horizons' made the *exact* same boast a couple of years ago, insisting that since they hadn't been prosecuted for submitting fraudulent tax documents, they must be right!

Until the indictments started rolling in. And the founder of their tax con was sent to federal prison. ANd people started having their wages garnished, losing jobs, and losing homes.

Exactly as happened to Tim Turner who, just like you, insisted he was legally immune to income taxes. His sentence was 18 years.

Exactly like Ed and Elaine Brown before Mr. Turner , who exactly like you insisted that there legally immune to income taxes. They're serving 35 and 37 years respectively.

Exactly like Irwin Schiff before Ed and Elaine, who just like you, insisted he was legally immune to income taxes. Hell, he even had returns posted on his website of folks that did what you're doing.....mistated their taxable income. He's still serving on his 12 year sentence.

Exactly like Hendricksen.....Benson.....Bentson.....and probably Carr.

But this time its different? You're special, huh?

Nope. The courts are no more bound to your pseudo-legal babble than they were all the tax con shills that came before you. And *nowhere* in the law or any court ruling does it say that demanding 'lawful money' makes you exempt from taxation.

Its just you citing yourself. Which is legally meaningless.

Smiling....I'm shredding your silly nonsense for free. And you'd be surprised how little effort it takes.

Show us the law or court ruling that says demanding 'lawful money' makes you immune from taxation. Show us any law or court ruling that says that you must receive US Notes in redemption for FRNs.

You can't.

Shouldn't the poor folks you're trying to shill your latest tax con be aware that its just you, citing yourself?

Blah blah blah

I am citing title 12 USC 411. You are citing directly from the Federal reserve website and trying to act like you came up with it yourself.

You are a proven liar (over and over) you have twisted and perverted court findings (which in reality support my posts) and continue to use "lawful money" and "legal tender" as being the same things, they are not and I have proven it.

You have nothing or you would be reporting the crimes you accuse me of to the IRS enforcers.

Keep bumping these threads, SHILL. You are only harming yourself by letting others know about lawful money redemption per 12 USC 411.

I stopped reading your posts weeks ago because you keep repeating the same bullshit over and over. But each bump means another front page on GLP for these threads.

DEMAND IS MADE FOR LAWFUL MONEY PER 12 USC 411!

Shilltard

The law does not "say" anything. However it does spell out that FRNs shall be redeemed for lawful money on demand.

You failed pathetically at the gold and silver being the only form of lawful money now you are harping on the US Note ( which I have proven there are nearly 250 million dollars worth still in circulation) from the treasuries own monthly accounting.

Nobody is reading your replies but you Shilltard.

Title 12 USC 411 doesn't even mention US Notes. And it never says that you're immune from paying taxes if you demand 'lawful money'.

That would be you citing yourself. Which is meaningless.

Show us any law or any court ruling that says that demanding 'lawful money' makes you immune from taxation.

Show us any law or court ruling that says that only US Notes can be offered in redemption for FRNs under Title 12, USC 411.

You can't.

You're running for a reason, Shill.

I've never made the claim that Gold and Silver are the only form of lawful money. If you believe I have, quote me.

You'll find you're only quoting yourself.

I did however point out that when Mobley Milam demanded his FRNs be redeemed under Title 12 USC 411......he received more FRNs.




Demand redemption in lawful money....get FRNs. Something you insist should never happen. Something that did and the courts upheld when they tossed Milam's case out as 'meritless' and 'frivolous'.

Which, of course you know. But *really* hope we don't.

Title 12 may not define "lawful money" but it sure as hell defines FRNs as not being "lawful money".

The op is a fed shill.

FRNs cannot be lawful money because by law there can only be 300 million dollars worth of "money" in the US. And lawful money can not be used as a reserve currency.

Weak shill is weak, and not here any more, why? Because these thread draw too much attention to the facts:

FRNs "shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand".

Lol, stupid shill got shut down by his handlers!!

FRNs definitions have never been "lawful money" not now, not EVER.

Money of contract makes them a form of "lawful" but the cases cited also agree that FRNs are redeemable and redemption is a right.

They cannot be redeemed if they are already lawful money!!

Bump for the shill tard who got shut down for bumping the threads!!! Callin you out SHILL!

Maybe tomorrow, none of this will matter, till then, I am bumping it.

Still here and still sullen silence from the SHILL!!! I hope he reads this and gets mad because his boss refuses to let him "Shill" this topic any more, poor little shill, it must hurt him so...

12 USC 411 is still the only viable way to end the debt cycle for you and your family.

It will also free you from the ACA/obamy is your mommy care act. That's right folks, no FED benefit income, nor IRS enforcement of ACA!!

No interest in this? Come on!

I love these "sovereign citizens" like OP. No, I seriously do. They don't argue their positions based upon facts, they argue them DESPITE the facts. The whole federal reserve note thing is just ONE of their articles of faith... and yes, it is a faith, no different than any other organized religion.

Pretty sure this silliness was what put Wesley Snipes behind bars, too.

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More shills, more BS.

Another year of demanding redemption in lawful money, another full refund from the IRS no questions asked.

Title 12 USC 411 is current standing US Code, for that there is NO counter argument from the poster shills above. They are the ones who offer no counter to the current "law" nor the actual results from people like me.

He was demanding that lawful money be gold or silver, dude. I don't know what a bank would give you if you asked for lawful money. Does it even exist?

The simple point that he was demanding gold and silver coin escapes the shill. It clear that is why the court ruled as they did, it states such in the ruling.

He closest thing we have to lawful money is coins, but even those do not meet up with purity of silver and weight set in federal law. It is ONLY the dmenad for redemption in lawful money per 12 USC 411 that matters.

While the courts do not spell out what IS lawful money, it does spell out redemption is there, it is a right and is effected "upon demand".

Not too hard to see it when you do it, but the shills are not here for anything but keeping the lies of the Federal Reserve criminals and the IMF Zionists.