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MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM.

 
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Taqiyya and Kitman

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman.

These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

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This is only for Shia's and not the Majority Sunni

Mohammed HIMSELF used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.

The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



Its in the Koran and the Hadith, read it.
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What deception was used because the terms of the treaty with Meccans were in favor of the Meccans?
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Did you know in the koran, Allah calles himself the greatest of all liars?
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I'd love to see the quote from the Koran as proof
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According to Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR, ‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’ (Report in the San Ramon Valley Herald of a speech to California Muslims in July 1998; quoted by Daniel Pipes in CAIR: Moderate Friends of Terror, New York Post, April 22, 2002).
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this is common knowledge op... at least I thought..

We all know about the antichrist and its ability to lie..
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Taqiyya and Kitman

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman.

These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

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 Quoting: Atheist


This is only for Shia's and not the Majority Sunni

Mohammed HIMSELF used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.

The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



Its in the Koran and the Hadith, read it.
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What deception was used because the terms of the treaty with Meccans were in favor of the Meccans?
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So not true!
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Taqiyya and Kitman

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman.

These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

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Mohammed HIMSELF used deception when he signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans that allowed him access to their city while he secretly prepared his own forces for a takeover.

The unsuspecting residents were conquered in easy fashion after he broke the treaty two years later, and some of the people in the city who had trusted him at his word were executed.



Its in the Koran and the Hadith, read it.
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they musta stole the idea from the jews with their book of shit called the talmud
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You guys are compeletly wrong you are getting the quran phrases out of context. Quran always tells muslims to be nice no matter who it is. Have any of you actually open a quran and read it. If you did you would have a different opinion. I was like you arguing about the quran without having any knowledge. So trust me and read some of it.
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So do cops. What's your point?
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Oh gee, they are lying? Holy shit, lets exterminate them. Or wait, maybe we lie too? No, sorry we never lie.


Of course non muslims lie, the point of this thread is to educate people that lying to non muslims is allowed in islam, even encouraged for deceptive reasons.
 Quoting: Atheist

The stupidity is growing my friend.
Do you remember who Jesus said was the "Father of Lies"?

Did you know in the koran, Allah calles himself the greatest of all liars?
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The verse you're trying to twist actually says this...

'They planned, and Allah (God) planned, and Allah (God) is the best of planners'...

Meaning, you can plan all you want, but in the end, you can't pull one over on God.

Link from Quran here.....

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