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Why God loves America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU BETTER STRAP YOURSELF DOWN FOLKS AND GET READY FOR SOME COLD HARD TRUTH!

 
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!

I agree with some of your logic, but fail to see why God would favor a land that has gone the way of Sodom, Gomorrah and become a modern day Babylon...

Below is a Stark warning from our past as I feel that America is under Judgment, and rightfully so. Many, if not the majority of "Christians" do not appear all too different from the heathen...

We are as a city set upon a hill, in the open view of all the earth….

We profess ourselves to be a people in covenant with God, and therefore . . . the Lord our God…will cry shame upon us if we walk contrary to the covenant which we have promised to walk in.

If we open the mouths of men against our profession, by reason of the scandalousness of our lives, we (of all men) shall have the greater sin."

And some sobering words from William Penn written while imprisoned for 8 months in the Tower of London for his faith

But the false Christians' cruelty has lasted longer than the crucifying Jews. With Judas, they have professed Him, and then, for these many ages, most basely betrayed, persecuted, and crucified Him, by a perpetual apostasy in manners, from the self-denial and holiness of His doctrine; their lives showing their faith to be lies. These are those who the author of the epistle to the Hebrews tells us, "Crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to open shame" (Heb 6:6); whose defiled hearts John in his Revelation styles, "The street of Sodom and Egypt, spiritually so called, where also our Lord was crucified" (Rev 11:8). And as Christ said of old, a man's enemies are those of his own house, so Christ's enemies now are chiefly those who claim to be believers; they spit upon Him, they nail and pierce Him, they crown Him with thorns, and give Him gall and vinegar to drink (Mat 27:34). Nor is is this hard to understand; for those who live in the same evil nature and principle the Jews did, that crucified Him outwardly, crucify Him within themselves; since those who reject the grace now in their own hearts are one in stock and generation with the hardhearted Jews, who resisted the grace that then appeared in and by Christ.



and This:

Let no man deceive his own soul; "grapes are not gathered of thorns, nor figs of thistles" (Matt 7:16); a wolf is not a sheep, nor is a vulture a dove. Whatever form, people, or church you are of, it is the truth of God to mankind, that they which have even the form of godliness, but, by their unmortified lives, deny the power thereof, [to purify them and deliver them from sin] do not belong to the true church, but belong to the false church; which, though she calls herself the Lamb's bride, or church of Christ (Rev 21:2; 22:17), she is that mystery, or mysterious Babylon, fitly called by the Holy Ghost, the mother of harlots and all abominations (Rev 17:5); because she is degenerated from Christian chastity and purity, into all the enormities of heathen Babylon; a sumptuous city of old time, much noted for the seat of the kings of Babylon, and at that time the place in the world of the greatest pride and luxury. As she was then, so mystical Babylon is now, the great enemy of God's people.

[The protestant and catholic churches are the Whore of Babylon, claiming to be his virgin bride, but continually committing spiritual adultery with the world by embracing greed, covetousness, sexual immorality, lying, cheating, indulgent pastimes, envy, and idolatry.]

Looking at the "church" today, I see that these words ring truer today than ever before. Many profess to be Christian, yet their very actions in their daily lives expose them as nothing more than liars whom often behave more wickedly than the heathen...

Just my .02 and the reason why I do not agree that God loves the USA anymore as we, as a nation, have walked away from our covenant with him...

UT


I see your points as well. However I don't think your description of Israel is accurate at all. Have you been? It is a Holy and great peaceful place.

As for favorites, they are not His favorites, but His Chosen People he Chose to spread His word. In return for this burden and blessing there have been both sacrifices and great things that come out of it!

A burden being people are jealous and try and kill you and your family. A blessing being you get the to live in such a great Land that He gave you, such a wondrous Land!

Praise Christ!

I didn't touch off on Israel and while the land may be blessed, God chastises Israel and the House of Judah calling Israel "Backsliding" and Judah "Treacherous".

I feel that the days of fire are upon us and purification will follow. One thing about the church is that it truly flourishes during times of trouble, and the people apply their faith more liberally and faithfully when under persecution...
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Good be that we are in the last days. All signs point in that direction. However Soon to us and God are different. Could be tomorrow, could be 1000 years from now.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
 Quoting: In His name we pray! 1074724



You, my friend, are delusional. It's people like yourself who perpetuate the zionist rhetoric that is causing so much chaos, hatred and bloodshed in the world. Your god is a psychopathic war monger.

I do hope your eyes will be opened to the truth.

Oh, and by the way, Americans are NOT free and most Jews don't love Jesus.
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I swear the OP is Pastor Jones.

Don't you have a Quran to burn.

You might want to read this.

[link to www.wikihow.com]
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So much hate in this thread. And for what? Loving Jesus?

Maybe we are in the last days. In the last days the world will turn against the Christians, Jews, and God's Land Israel!
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
 Quoting: In His name we pray! 1074724



You need to stop drinking the raw sewage that runs down to the treatment plant at night,dude. seriously. You are completely screwed up in the head.
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Yeah, and in those final days the really good lord will greatly reward those who do parody and cause many of us to giggle and guffaw mightily......Jumpin Jehosaphat 11:11
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!



You need to stop drinking the raw sewage that runs down to the treatment plant at night,dude. seriously. You are completely screwed up in the head.
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Care to explain your assertion?
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hey OP... how overweight are you? and how many prescriptions are you on?
I am.. therefore I think
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!



You need to stop drinking the raw sewage that runs down to the treatment plant at night,dude. seriously. You are completely screwed up in the head.


Care to explain your assertion?
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You make yourself sound like a mental defective. Do you realize that? There are no Chosen people. Ok? Sorry,but you must be a real new Christian to not realize this. You cannot take the Bible or any so-called religion literally. If you do, you miss the entire point. God is No respecter of persons. That means He does not favor you anymore than He does me or the Jews. Nobody is special, but everybody is on equal footing when we are all before the throne. If you were knowledgeable in the spiritual things and not just the Bible, you would understand this.

5. The Modern Problem
(2075.4) 195:5.1 The twentieth century has brought new problems for Christianity and all other religions to solve.
The higher a civilization climbs, the more necessitous becomes the duty to “seek first the realities of
heaven” in all of man’s efforts to stabilize society and facilitate the solution of its material problems.
(2075.5) 195:5.2 Truth often becomes confusing and even misleading when it is dismembered, segregated,
isolated, and too much analyzed. Living truth teaches the truth seeker aright only when it is embraced in
wholeness and as a living spiritual reality, not as a fact of material science or an inspiration of intervening
art.
(2075.6) 195:5.3 Religion is the revelation to man of his divine and eternal destiny. Religion is a purely personal
and spiritual experience and must forever be distinguished from man’s other high forms of thought, such
as:
(2075.7) 195:5.4 1. Man’s logical attitude toward the things of material reality.
(2075.8) 195:5.5 2. Man’s aesthetic appreciation of beauty contrasted with ugliness.
(2075.9) 195:5.6 3. Man’s ethical recognition of social obligations and political duty.
(2075.10) 195:5.7 4. Even man’s sense of human morality is not, in and of itself, religious.
(2075.11) 195:5.8 Religion is designed to find those values in the universe which call forth faith, trust, and
assurance; religion culminates in worship. Religion discovers for the soul those supreme values which are in
contrast with the relative values discovered by the mind. Such superhuman insight can be had only through
genuine religious experience.
(2075.12) 195:5.9 A lasting social system without a morality predicated on spiritual realities can no more be
maintained than could the solar system without gravity.
(2076.1) 195:5.10 Do not try to satisfy the curiosity or gratify all the latent adventure surging within the soul in
one short life in the flesh. Be patient! be not tempted to indulge in a lawless plunge into cheap and sordid
adventure. Harness your energies and bridle your passions; be calm while you await the majestic unfolding
of an endless career of progressive adventure and thrilling discovery.
(2076.2) 195:5.11 In confusion over man’s origin, do not lose sight of his eternal destiny. Forget not that Jesus
loved even little children, and that he forever made clear the great worth of human personality.
(2076.3) 195:5.12 As you view the world, remember that the black patches of evil which you see are shown
against a white background of ultimate good. You do not view merely white patches of good which show up
miserably against a black background of evil.
(2076.4) 195:5.13 When there is so much good truth to publish and proclaim, why should men dwell so much
upon the evil in the world just because it appears to be a fact? The beauties of the spiritual values of truth
are more pleasurable and uplifting than is the phenomenon of evil.
(2076.5) 195:5.14 In religion, Jesus advocated and followed the method of experience, even as modern science
pursues the technique of experiment. We find God through the leadings of spiritual insight, but we
approach this insight of the soul through the love of the beautiful, the pursuit of truth, loyalty to duty, and
the worship of divine goodness. But of all these values, love is the true guide to real insight.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!



You need to stop drinking the raw sewage that runs down to the treatment plant at night,dude. seriously. You are completely screwed up in the head.


Care to explain your assertion?



You make yourself sound like a mental defective. Do you realize that? There are no Chosen people. Ok? Sorry,but you must be a real new Christian to not realize this. You cannot take the Bible or any so-called religion literally. If you do, you miss the entire point. God is No respecter of persons. That means He does not favor you anymore than He does me or the Jews. Nobody is special, but everybody is on equal footing when we are all before the throne. If you were knowledgeable in the spiritual things and not just the Bible, you would understand this.

5. The Modern Problem
(2075.4) 195:5.1 The twentieth century has brought new problems for Christianity and all other religions to solve.
The higher a civilization climbs, the more necessitous becomes the duty to “seek first the realities of
heaven” in all of man’s efforts to stabilize society and facilitate the solution of its material problems.
(2075.5) 195:5.2 Truth often becomes confusing and even misleading when it is dismembered, segregated,
isolated, and too much analyzed. Living truth teaches the truth seeker aright only when it is embraced in
wholeness and as a living spiritual reality, not as a fact of material science or an inspiration of intervening
art.
(2075.6) 195:5.3 Religion is the revelation to man of his divine and eternal destiny. Religion is a purely personal
and spiritual experience and must forever be distinguished from man’s other high forms of thought, such
as:
(2075.7) 195:5.4 1. Man’s logical attitude toward the things of material reality.
(2075.8) 195:5.5 2. Man’s aesthetic appreciation of beauty contrasted with ugliness.
(2075.9) 195:5.6 3. Man’s ethical recognition of social obligations and political duty.
(2075.10) 195:5.7 4. Even man’s sense of human morality is not, in and of itself, religious.
(2075.11) 195:5.8 Religion is designed to find those values in the universe which call forth faith, trust, and
assurance; religion culminates in worship. Religion discovers for the soul those supreme values which are in
contrast with the relative values discovered by the mind. Such superhuman insight can be had only through
genuine religious experience.
(2075.12) 195:5.9 A lasting social system without a morality predicated on spiritual realities can no more be
maintained than could the solar system without gravity.
(2076.1) 195:5.10 Do not try to satisfy the curiosity or gratify all the latent adventure surging within the soul in
one short life in the flesh. Be patient! be not tempted to indulge in a lawless plunge into cheap and sordid
adventure. Harness your energies and bridle your passions; be calm while you await the majestic unfolding
of an endless career of progressive adventure and thrilling discovery.
(2076.2) 195:5.11 In confusion over man’s origin, do not lose sight of his eternal destiny. Forget not that Jesus
loved even little children, and that he forever made clear the great worth of human personality.
(2076.3) 195:5.12 As you view the world, remember that the black patches of evil which you see are shown
against a white background of ultimate good. You do not view merely white patches of good which show up
miserably against a black background of evil.
(2076.4) 195:5.13 When there is so much good truth to publish and proclaim, why should men dwell so much
upon the evil in the world just because it appears to be a fact? The beauties of the spiritual values of truth
are more pleasurable and uplifting than is the phenomenon of evil.
(2076.5) 195:5.14 In religion, Jesus advocated and followed the method of experience, even as modern science
pursues the technique of experiment. We find God through the leadings of spiritual insight, but we
approach this insight of the soul through the love of the beautiful, the pursuit of truth, loyalty to duty, and
the worship of divine goodness. But of all these values, love is the true guide to real insight.
 Quoting: hawk8414


wow, just wow.

I am the new Christian? You just claimed you cannot take the Word of God literally? Wow, just wow.

An education, get one.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
 Quoting: In His name we pray! 1074724



dude, yes, God loves freedom, goodness and people who love Jesus and that's why he loves America, but damn. The rest of your sermon is a little twisted.
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The Urantia Book
Paper 196
The Faith of Jesus
(2087.1) 196:0.1 JESUS enjoyed a sublime and wholehearted faith in God. He experienced the ordinary ups and
downs of mortal existence, but he never religiously doubted the certainty of God’s watchcare and guidance.
His faith was the outgrowth of the insight born of the activity of the divine presence, his indwelling
Adjuster. His faith was neither traditional nor merely intellectual; it was wholly personal and purely
spiritual.
(2087.2) 196:0.2 The human Jesus saw God as being holy, just, and great, as well as being true, beautiful, and
good. All these attributes of divinity he focused in his mind as the “will of the Father in heaven.” Jesus’ God
was at one and the same time “The Holy One of Israel” and “The living and loving Father in heaven.” The
concept of God as a Father was not original with Jesus, but he exalted and elevated the idea into a sublime
experience by achieving a new revelation of God and by proclaiming that every mortal creature is a child of
this Father of love, a son of God.
(2087.3) 196:0.3 Jesus did not cling to faith in God as would a struggling soul at war with the universe and at
death grips with a hostile and sinful world; he did not resort to faith merely as a consolation in the midst of
difficulties or as a comfort in threatened despair; faith was not just an illusory compensation for the
unpleasant realities and the sorrows of living. In the very face of all the natural difficulties and the temporal
contradictions of mortal existence, he experienced the tranquillity of supreme and unquestioned trust in
God and felt the tremendous thrill of living, by faith, in the very presence of the heavenly Father. And this
triumphant faith was a living experience of actual spirit attainment. Jesus’ great contribution to the values
of human experience was not that he revealed so many new ideas about the Father in heaven, but rather
that he so magnificently and humanly demonstrated a new and higher type of living faith in God. Never on
all the worlds of this universe, in the life of any one mortal, did God ever become such a living reality as in
the human experience of Jesus of Nazareth.
(2087.4) 196:0.4 In the Master’s life on Urantia, this and all other worlds of the local creation discover a new and
higher type of religion, religion based on personal spiritual relations with the Universal Father and wholly
validated by the supreme authority of genuine personal experience. This living faith of Jesus was more than
an intellectual reflection, and it was not a mystic meditation.
(2087.5) 196:0.5 Theology may fix, formulate, define, and dogmatize faith, but in the human life of Jesus faith
was personal, living, original, spontaneous, and purely spiritual. This faith was not reverence for tradition
nor a mere intellectual belief which he held as a sacred creed, but rather a sublime experience and a
profound conviction which securely held him. His faith was so real and all-encompassing that it absolutely
swept away any spiritual doubts and effectively destroyed every conflicting desire. Nothing was able to tear
him away from the spiritual anchorage of this fervent, sublime, and undaunted faith. Even in the face of
apparent defeat or in the throes of disappointment and threatening despair, he calmly stood in the divine
presence free from fear and fully conscious of spiritual invincibility. Jesus enjoyed the invigorating
assurance of the possession of unflinching faith, and in each of life’s trying situations he unfailingly
exhibited an unquestioning loyalty to the Father’s will. And this superb faith was undaunted even by the
cruel and crushing threat of an ignominious death.
(2088.1) 196:0.6 In a religious genius, strong spiritual faith so many times leads directly to disastrous fanaticism,
to exaggeration of the religious ego, but it was not so with Jesus. He was not unfavorably affected in his
practical life by his extraordinary faith and spirit attainment because this spiritual exaltation was a wholly
unconscious and spontaneous soul expression of his personal experience with God.
(2088.2) 196:0.7 The all-consuming and indomitable spiritual faith of Jesus never became fanatical, for it never
attempted to run away with his well-balanced intellectual judgments concerning the proportional values of
practical and commonplace social, economic, and moral life situations. The Son of Man was a splendidly
unified human personality; he was a perfectly endowed divine being; he was also magnificently coordinated
as a combined human and divine being functioning on earth as a single personality. Always did
the Master co-ordinate the faith of the soul with the wisdom-appraisals of seasoned experience. Personal
faith, spiritual hope, and moral devotion were always correlated in a matchless religious unity of
harmonious association with the keen realization of the reality and sacredness of all human loyalties —
personal honor, family love, religious obligation, social duty, and economic necessity.
(2088.3) 196:0.8 The faith of Jesus visualized all spirit values as being found in the kingdom of God; therefore he
said, “Seek first the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus saw in the advanced and ideal fellowship of the kingdom
the achievement and fulfillment of the “will of God.” The very heart of the prayer which he taught his
disciples was, “Your kingdom come; your will be done.” Having thus conceived of the kingdom as
comprising the will of God, he devoted himself to the cause of its realization with amazing selfforgetfulness
and unbounded enthusiasm. But in all his intense mission and throughout his extraordinary
life there never appeared the fury of the fanatic nor the superficial frothiness of the religious egotist.
(2088.4) 196:0.9 The Master’s entire life was consistently conditioned by this living faith, this sublime religious
experience. This spiritual attitude wholly dominated his thinking and feeling, his believing and praying, his
teaching and preaching. This personal faith of a son in the certainty and security of the guidance and
protection of the heavenly Father imparted to his unique life a profound endowment of spiritual reality. And
yet, despite this very deep consciousness of close relationship with divinity, this Galilean, God’s Galilean,
when addressed as Good Teacher, instantly replied, “Why do you call me good?” When we stand confronted
by such splendid self-forgetfulness, we begin to understand how the Universal Father found it possible so
fully to manifest himself to him and reveal himself through him to the mortals of the realms.
(2088.5) 196:0.10 Jesus brought to God, as a man of the realm, the greatest of all offerings: the consecration and
dedication of his own will to the majestic service of doing the divine will. Jesus always and consistently
interpreted religion wholly in terms of the Father’s will. When you study the career of the Master, as
concerns prayer or any other feature of the religious life, look not so much for what he taught as for what
he did. Jesus never prayed as a religious duty. To him prayer was a sincere expression of spiritual attitude,
a declaration of soul loyalty, a recital of personal devotion, an expression of thanksgiving, an avoidance of
emotional tension, a prevention of conflict, an exaltation of intellection, an ennoblement of desire, a
vindication of moral decision, an enrichment of thought, an invigoration of higher inclinations, a
consecration of impulse, a clarification of viewpoint, a declaration of faith, a transcendental surrender of
will, a sublime assertion of confidence, a revelation of courage, the proclamation of discovery, a confession
of supreme devotion, the validation of consecration, a technique for the adjustment of difficulties, and the
mighty mobilization of the combined soul powers to withstand all human tendencies toward selfishness,
evil, and sin. He lived just such a life of prayerful consecration to the doing of his Father’s will and ended
his life triumphantly with just such a prayer. The secret of his unparalleled religious life was this
consciousness of the presence of God; and he attained it by intelligent prayer and sincere worship —
unbroken communion with God — and not by leadings, voices, visions, or extraordinary religious practices.
(2089.1) 196:0.11 In the earthly life of Jesus, religion was a living experience, a direct and personal movement
from spiritual reverence to practical righteousness. The faith of Jesus bore the transcendent fruits of the
divine spirit. His faith was not immature and credulous like that of a child, but in many ways it did
resemble the unsuspecting trust of the child mind. Jesus trusted God much as the child trusts a parent. He
had a profound confidence in the universe — just such a trust as the child has in its parental environment.
Jesus’ wholehearted faith in the fundamental goodness of the universe very much resembled the child’s
trust in the security of its earthly surroundings. He depended on the heavenly Father as a child leans upon
its earthly parent, and his fervent faith never for one moment doubted the certainty of the heavenly
Father’s overcare. He was not disturbed seriously by fears, doubts, and skepticism. Unbelief did not inhibit
the free and original expression of his life. He combined the stalwart and intelligent courage of a full-grown
man with the sincere and trusting optimism of a believing child. His faith grew to such heights of trust that
it was devoid of fear.
(2089.2) 196:0.12
The faith of Jesus attained the purity of a child’s trust. His faith was so absolute and
undoubting that it responded to the charm of the contact of fellow beings and to the wonders of the
universe. His sense of dependence on the divine was so complete and so confident that it yielded the joy
and the assurance of absolute personal security. There was no hesitating pretense in his religious
experience. In this giant intellect of the full-grown man the faith of the child reigned supreme in all matters
relating to the religious consciousness. It is not strange that he once said, “Except you become as a little
child, you shall not enter the kingdom.” Notwithstanding that Jesus’ faith was childlike, it was in no sense
childish.
(2089.3) 196:0.13 Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him, believe in
the reality of the love of God and in full confidence accept the security of the assurance of sonship with the
heavenly Father. The Master desires that all his followers should fully share his transcendent faith. Jesus
most touchingly challenged his followers, not only to believe what he believed, but also to believe as he
believed. This is the full significance of his one supreme requirement, “Follow me.”
(2090.1) 196:0.14 Jesus’ earthly life was devoted to one great purpose — doing the Father’s will, living the human
life religiously and by faith. The faith of Jesus was trusting, like that of a child, but it was wholly free from
presumption. He made robust and manly decisions, courageously faced manifold disappointments,
resolutely surmounted extraordinary difficulties, and unflinchingly confronted the stern requirements of
duty. It required a strong will and an unfailing confidence to believe what Jesus believed and as he
believed.
1. Jesus — The Man
(2090.2) 196:1.1 Jesus’ devotion to the Father’s will and the service of man was even more than mortal decision
and human determination; it was a wholehearted consecration of himself to such an unreserved bestowal
of love. No matter how great the fact of the sovereignty of Michael, you must not take the human Jesus
away from men. The Master has ascended on high as a man, as well as God; he belongs to men; men
belong to him. How unfortunate that religion itself should be so misinterpreted as to take the human Jesus
away from struggling mortals! Let not the discussions of the humanity or the divinity of the Christ obscure
the saving truth that Jesus of Nazareth was a religious man who, by faith, achieved the knowing and the
doing of the will of God; he was the most truly religious man who has ever lived on Urantia.
(2090.3) 196:1.2 The time is ripe to witness the figurative resurrection of the human Jesus from his burial tomb
amidst the theological traditions and the religious dogmas of nineteen centuries. Jesus of Nazareth must
not be longer sacrificed to even the splendid concept of the glorified Christ. What a transcendent service if,
through this revelation, the Son of Man should be recovered from the tomb of traditional theology and be
presented as the living Jesus to the church that bears his name, and to all other religions! Surely the
Christian fellowship of believers will not hesitate to make such adjustments of faith and of practices of
living as will enable it to “follow after” the Master in the demonstration of his real life of religious devotion
to the doing of his Father’s will and of consecration to the unselfish service of man. Do professed Christians
fear the exposure of a self-sufficient and unconsecrated fellowship of social respectability and selfish
economic maladjustment? Does institutional Christianity fear the possible jeopardy, or even the overthrow,
of traditional ecclesiastical authority if the Jesus of Galilee is reinstated in the minds and souls of mortal
men as the ideal of personal religious living? Indeed, the social readjustments, the economic
transformations, the moral rejuvenations, and the religious revisions of Christian civilization would be
drastic and revolutionary if the living religion of Jesus should suddenly supplant the theologic religion about
Jesus.
(2090.4) 196:1.3 To “follow Jesus” means to personally share his religious faith and to enter into the spirit of the
Master’s life of unselfish service for man. One of the most important things in human living is to find out
what Jesus believed, to discover his ideals, and to strive for the achievement of his exalted life purpose. Of
all human knowledge, that which is of greatest value is to know the religious life of Jesus and how he lived
it.
(2090.5) 196:1.4 The common people heard Jesus gladly, and they will again respond to the presentation of his
sincere human life of consecrated religious motivation if such truths shall again be proclaimed to the world.
The people heard him gladly because he was one of them, an unpretentious layman; the world’s greatest
religious teacher was indeed a layman.
(2091.1) 196:1.5 It should not be the aim of kingdom believers literally to imitate the outward life of Jesus in the
flesh but rather to share his faith; to trust God as he trusted God and to believe in men as he believed in
men. Jesus never argued about either the fatherhood of God or the brotherhood of men; he was a living
illustration of the one and a profound demonstration of the other.
(2091.2) 196:1.6 Just as men must progress from the consciousness of the human to the realization of the divine,
so did Jesus ascend from the nature of man to the consciousness of the nature of God. And the Master
made this great ascent from the human to the divine by the conjoint achievement of the faith of his mortal
intellect and the acts of his indwelling Adjuster. The fact-realization of the attainment of totality of divinity
(all the while fully conscious of the reality of humanity) was attended by seven stages of faith
consciousness of progressive divinization. These stages of progressive self-realization were marked off by
the following extraordinary events in the Master’s bestowal experience:
(2091.3) 196:1.7 1. The arrival of the Thought Adjuster.
(2091.4) 196:1.8 2. The messenger of Immanuel who appeared to him at Jerusalem when he was
about twelve years old.
(2091.5) 196:1.9 3. The manifestations attendant upon his baptism.
(2091.6) 196:1.10 4. The experiences on the Mount of Transfiguration.
(2091.7) 196:1.11 5. The morontia resurrection.
(2091.8) 196:1.12 6. The spirit ascension.
(2091.9) 196:1.13 7. The final embrace of the Paradise Father, conferring unlimited sovereignty of his
universe.
2. The Religion of Jesus
(2091.10) 196:2.1 Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the
unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion
about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter
unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul
later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and
portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is
founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost
exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New
Testament is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a
discussion of Paul’s religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only
notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of
Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious
life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian.
(2091.11) 196:2.2 Jesus’ life in the flesh portrays a transcendent religious growth from the early ideas of primitive
awe and human reverence up through years of personal spiritual communion until he finally arrived at that
advanced and exalted status of the consciousness of his oneness with the Father. And thus, in one short
life, did Jesus traverse that experience of religious spiritual progression which man begins on earth and
ordinarily achieves only at the conclusion of his long sojourn in the spirit training schools of the successive
levels of the pre-Paradise career. Jesus progressed from a purely human consciousness of the faith
certainties of personal religious experience to the sublime spiritual heights of the positive realization of his
divine nature and to the consciousness of his close association with the Universal Father in the
management of a universe. He progressed from the humble status of mortal dependence which prompted
him spontaneously to say to the one who called him Good Teacher, “Why do you call me good? None is
good but God,” to that sublime consciousness of achieved divinity which led him to exclaim, “Which one of
you convicts me of sin?” And this progressing ascent from the human to the divine was an exclusively
mortal achievement. And when he had thus attained divinity, he was still the same human Jesus, the Son
of Man as well as the Son of God.
(2092.1) 196:2.3 Mark, Matthew, and Luke retain something of the picture of the human Jesus as he engaged in
the superb struggle to ascertain the divine will and to do that will. John presents a picture of the
triumphant Jesus as he walked on earth in the full consciousness of divinity. The great mistake that has
been made by those who have studied the Master’s life is that some have conceived of him as entirely
human, while others have thought of him as only divine. Throughout his entire experience he was truly
both human and divine, even as he yet is.
(2092.2) 196:2.4 But the greatest mistake was made in that, while the human Jesus was recognized as having a
religion, the divine Jesus (Christ) almost overnight became a religion. Paul’s Christianity made sure of the
adoration of the divine Christ, but it almost wholly lost sight of the struggling and valiant human Jesus of
Galilee, who, by the valor of his personal religious faith and the heroism of his indwelling Adjuster,
ascended from the lowly levels of humanity to become one with divinity, thus becoming the new and living
way whereby all mortals may so ascend from humanity to divinity. Mortals in all stages of spirituality and
on all worlds may find in the personal life of Jesus that which will strengthen and inspire them as they
progress from the lowest spirit levels up to the highest divine values, from the beginning to the end of all
personal religious experience.
(2092.3) 196:2.5 At the time of the writing of the New Testament, the authors not only most profoundly believed
in the divinity of the risen Christ, but they also devotedly and sincerely believed in his immediate return to
earth to consummate the heavenly kingdom. This strong faith in the Lord’s immediate return had much to
do with the tendency to omit from the record those references which portrayed the purely human
experiences and attributes of the Master. The whole Christian movement tended away from the human
picture of Jesus of Nazareth toward the exaltation of the risen Christ, the glorified and soon-returning Lord
Jesus Christ.
(2092.4) 196:2.6 Jesus founded the religion of personal experience in doing the will of God and serving the human
brotherhood; Paul founded a religion in which the glorified Jesus became the object of worship and the
brotherhood consisted of fellow believers in the divine Christ. In the bestowal of Jesus these two concepts
were potential in his divine-human life, and it is indeed a pity that his followers failed to create a unified
religion which might have given proper recognition to both the human and the divine natures of the Master
as they were inseparably bound up in his earth life and so gloriously set forth in the original gospel of the
kingdom.
(2093.1) 196:2.7 You would be neither shocked nor disturbed by some of Jesus’ strong pronouncements if you
would only remember that he was the world’s most wholehearted and devoted religionist. He was a wholly
consecrated mortal, unreservedly dedicated to doing his Father’s will. Many of his apparently hard sayings
were more of a personal confession of faith and a pledge of devotion than commands to his followers. And
it was this very singleness of purpose and unselfish devotion that enabled him to effect such extraordinary
progress in the conquest of the human mind in one short life. Many of his declarations should be
considered as a confession of what he demanded of himself rather than what he required of all his
followers. In his devotion to the cause of the kingdom, Jesus burned all bridges behind him; he sacrificed
all hindrances to the doing of his Father’s will.
(2093.2) 196:2.8 Jesus blessed the poor because they were usually sincere and pious; he condemned the rich
because they were usually wanton and irreligious. He would equally condemn the irreligious pauper and
commend the consecrated and worshipful man of wealth.
(2093.3) 196:2.9 Jesus led men to feel at home in the world; he delivered them from the slavery of taboo and
taught them that the world was not fundamentally evil. He did not long to escape from his earthly life; he
mastered a technique of acceptably doing the Father’s will while in the flesh. He attained an idealistic
religious life in the very midst of a realistic world. Jesus did not share Paul’s pessimistic view of humankind.
The Master looked upon men as the sons of God and foresaw a magnificent and eternal future for those
who chose survival. He was not a moral skeptic; he viewed man positively, not negatively. He saw most
men as weak rather than wicked, more distraught than depraved. But no matter what their status, they
were all God’s children and his brethren.
(2093.4) 196:2.10 He taught men to place a high value upon themselves in time and in eternity. Because of this
high estimate which Jesus placed upon men, he was willing to spend himself in the unremitting service of
humankind. And it was this infinite worth of the finite that made the golden rule a vital factor in his
religion. What mortal can fail to be uplifted by the extraordinary faith Jesus has in him?
(2093.5) 196:2.11 Jesus offered no rules for social advancement; his was a religious mission, and religion is an
exclusively individual experience. The ultimate goal of society’s most advanced achievement can never
hope to transcend Jesus’ brotherhood of men based on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The ideal
of all social attainment can be realized only in the coming of this divine kingdom.
3. The Supremacy of Religion
(2093.6) 196:3.1 Personal, spiritual religious experience is an efficient solvent for most mortal difficulties; it is an
effective sorter, evaluator, and adjuster of all human problems. Religion does not remove or destroy human
troubles, but it does dissolve, absorb, illuminate, and transcend them. True religion unifies the personality
for effective adjustment to all mortal requirements. Religious faith — the positive leading of the indwelling
divine presence — unfailingly enables the God-knowing man to bridge that gulf existing between the
intellectual logic which recognizes the Universal First Cause as It and those positive affirmations of the soul
which aver this First Cause is He, the heavenly Father of Jesus’ gospel, the personal God of human
salvation.
(2094.1) 196:3.2 There are just three elements in universal reality: fact, idea, and relation. The religious
consciousness identifies these realities as science, philosophy, and truth. Philosophy would be inclined to
view these activities as reason, wisdom, and faith — physical reality, intellectual reality, and spiritual
reality. We are in the habit of designating these realities as thing, meaning, and value.
(2094.2) 196:3.3 The progressive comprehension of reality is the equivalent of approaching God. The finding of
God, the consciousness of identity with reality, is the equivalent of the experiencing of self-completion —
self-entirety, self-totality. The experiencing of total reality is the full realization of God, the finality of the
God-knowing experience.
(2094.3) 196:3.4 The full summation of human life is the knowledge that man is educated by fact, ennobled by
wisdom, and saved — justified — by religious faith.
(2094.4) 196:3.5 Physical certainty consists in the logic of science; moral certainty, in the wisdom of philosophy;
spiritual certainty, in the truth of genuine religious experience.
(2094.5) 196:3.6 The mind of man can attain high levels of spiritual insight and corresponding spheres of divinity
of values because it is not wholly material. There is a spirit nucleus in the mind of man — the Adjuster of
the divine presence. There are three separate evidences of this spirit indwelling of the human mind:
(2094.6) 196:3.7 1. Humanitarian fellowship — love. The purely animal mind may be gregarious for
self-protection, but only the spirit-indwelt intellect is unselfishly altruistic and unconditionally
loving.
(2094.7) 196:3.8 2. Interpretation of the universe — wisdom. Only the spirit-indwelt mind can
comprehend that the universe is friendly to the individual.
(2094.8) 196:3.9 3. Spiritual evaluation of life — worship. Only the spirit-indwelt man can realize the
divine presence and seek to attain a fuller experience in and with this foretaste of divinity.
(2094.9) 196:3.10 The human mind does not create real values; human experience does not yield universe
insight. Concerning insight, the recognition of moral values and the discernment of spiritual meanings, all
that the human mind can do is to discover, recognize, interpret, and choose.
(2094.10) 196:3.11 The moral values of the universe become intellectual possessions by the exercise of the three
basic judgments, or choices, of the mortal mind:
(2094.11) 196:3.12 1. Self-judgment — moral choice.
(2094.12) 196:3.13 2. Social-judgment — ethical choice.
(2094.13) 196:3.14 3. God-judgment — religious choice.
(2094.14) 196:3.15 Thus it appears that all human progress is effected by a technique of conjoint revelational
evolution.
(2094.15) 196:3.16 Unless a divine lover lived in man, he could not unselfishly and spiritually love. Unless an
interpreter lived in the mind, man could not truly realize the unity of the universe. Unless an evaluator
dwelt with man, he could not possibly appraise moral values and recognize spiritual meanings. And this
lover hails from the very source of infinite love; this interpreter is a part of Universal Unity; this evaluator
is the child of the Center and Source of all absolute values of divine and eternal reality.
(2095.1) 196:3.17 Moral evaluation with a religious meaning — spiritual insight — connotes the individual’s choice
between good and evil, truth and error, material and spiritual, human and divine, time and eternity. Human
survival is in great measure dependent on consecrating the human will to the choosing of those values
selected by this spirit-value sorter — the indwelling interpreter and unifier. Personal religious experience
consists in two phases: discovery in the human mind and revelation by the indwelling divine spirit. Through
oversophistication or as a result of the irreligious conduct of professed religionists, a man, or even a
generation of men, may elect to suspend their efforts to discover the God who indwells them; they may
fail to progress in and attain the divine revelation. But such attitudes of spiritual nonprogression cannot
long persist because of the presence and influence of the indwelling Thought Adjusters.
(2095.2) 196:3.18 This profound experience of the reality of the divine indwelling forever transcends the crude
materialistic technique of the physical sciences. You cannot put spiritual joy under a microscope; you
cannot weigh love in a balance; you cannot measure moral values; neither can you estimate the quality of
spiritual worship.
(2095.3) 196:3.19 The Hebrews had a religion of moral sublimity; the Greeks evolved a religion of beauty; Paul
and his conferees founded a religion of faith, hope, and charity. Jesus revealed and exemplified a religion of
love: security in the Father’s love, with joy and satisfaction consequent upon sharing this love in the service
of the human brotherhood.
(2095.4) 196:3.20 Every time man makes a reflective moral choice, he immediately experiences a new divine
invasion of his soul. Moral choosing constitutes religion as the motive of inner response to outer conditions.
But such a real religion is not a purely subjective experience. It signifies the whole of the subjectivity of the
individual engaged in a meaningful and intelligent response to total objectivity — the universe and its
Maker.
(2095.5) 196:3.21 The exquisite and transcendent experience of loving and being loved is not just a psychic
illusion because it is so purely subjective. The one truly divine and objective reality that is associated with
mortal beings, the Thought Adjuster, functions to human observation apparently as an exclusively
subjective phenomenon. Man’s contact with the highest objective reality, God, is only through the purely
subjective experience of knowing him, of worshiping him, of realizing sonship with him.
(2095.6) 196:3.22 True religious worship is not a futile monologue of self-deception. Worship is a personal
communion with that which is divinely real, with that which is the very source of reality. Man aspires by
worship to be better and thereby eventually attains the best.
(2095.7) 196:3.23 The idealization and attempted service of truth, beauty, and goodness is not a substitute for
genuine religious experience — spiritual reality. Psychology and idealism are not the equivalent of religious
reality. The projections of the human intellect may indeed originate false gods — gods in man’s image —
but the true God-consciousness does not have such an origin. The God-consciousness is resident in the
indwelling spirit. Many of the religious systems of man come from the formulations of the human intellect,
but the God-consciousness is not necessarily a part of these grotesque systems of religious slavery.
(2095.8) 196:3.24 God is not the mere invention of man’s idealism; he is the very source of all such superanimal
insights and values. God is not a hypothesis formulated to unify the human concepts of truth, beauty, and
goodness; he is the personality of love from whom all of these universe manifestations are derived. The
truth, beauty, and goodness of man’s world are unified by the increasing spirituality of the experience of
mortals ascending toward Paradise realities. The unity of truth, beauty, and goodness can only be realized
in the spiritual experience of the God-knowing personality.
(2096.1) 196:3.25 Morality is the essential pre-existent soil of personal God-consciousness, the personal
realization of the Adjuster’s inner presence, but such morality is not the source of religious experience and
the resultant spiritual insight. The moral nature is superanimal but subspiritual. Morality is equivalent to
the recognition of duty, the realization of the existence of right and wrong. The moral zone intervenes
between the animal and the human types of mind as morontia functions between the material and the
spiritual spheres of personality attainment.
(2096.2) 196:3.26 The evolutionary mind is able to discover law, morals, and ethics; but the bestowed spirit, the
indwelling Adjuster, reveals to the evolving human mind the lawgiver, the Father-source of all that is true,
beautiful, and good; and such an illuminated man has a religion and is spiritually equipped to begin the
long and adventurous search for God.
(2096.3) 196:3.27 Morality is not necessarily spiritual; it may be wholly and purely human, albeit real religion
enhances all moral values, makes them more meaningful. Morality without religion fails to reveal ultimate
goodness, and it also fails to provide for the survival of even its own moral values. Religion provides for the
enhancement, glorification, and assured survival of everything morality recognizes and approves.
(2096.4) 196:3.28 Religion stands above science, art, philosophy, ethics, and morals, but not independent of
them. They are all indissolubly interrelated in human experience, personal and social. Religion is man’s
supreme experience in the mortal nature, but finite language makes it forever impossible for theology ever
adequately to depict real religious experience.
(2096.5) 196:3.29 Religious insight possesses the power of turning defeat into higher desires and new
determinations. Love is the highest motivation which man may utilize in his universe ascent. But love,
divested of truth, beauty, and goodness, is only a sentiment, a philosophic distortion, a psychic illusion, a
spiritual deception. Love must always be redefined on successive levels of morontia and spirit progression.
(2096.6) 196:3.30 Art results from man’s attempt to escape from the lack of beauty in his material environment;
it is a gesture toward the morontia level. Science is man’s effort to solve the apparent riddles of the
material universe. Philosophy is man’s attempt at the unification of human experience. Religion is man’s
supreme gesture, his magnificent reach for final reality, his determination to find God and to be like him.
(2096.7) 196:3.31 In the realm of religious experience, spiritual possibility is potential reality. Man’s forward
spiritual urge is not a psychic illusion. All of man’s universe romancing may not be fact, but much, very
much, is truth.
(2096.8) 196:3.32 Some men’s lives are too great and noble to descend to the low level of being merely
successful. The animal must adapt itself to the environment, but the religious man transcends his
environment and in this way escapes the limitations of the present material world through this insight of
divine love. This concept of love generates in the soul of man that superanimal effort to find truth, beauty,
and goodness; and when he does find them, he is glorified in their embrace; he is consumed with the
desire to live them, to do righteousness.
(2097.1) 196:3.33 Be not discouraged; human evolution is still in progress, and the revelation of God to the world,
in and through Jesus, shall not fail.
(2097.2) 196:3.34 The great challenge to modern man is to achieve better communication with the divine Monitor
that dwells within the human mind. Man’s greatest adventure in the flesh consists in the well-balanced and
sane effort to advance the borders of self-consciousness out through the dim realms of embryonic soulconsciousness
in a wholehearted effort to reach the borderland of spirit-consciousness — contact with the
divine presence. Such an experience constitutes God-consciousness, an experience mightily confirmative of
the pre-existent truth of the religious experience of knowing God. Such spirit-consciousness is the
equivalent of the knowledge of the actuality of sonship with God. Otherwise, the assurance of sonship is
the experience of faith.
(2097.3) 196:3.35 And God-consciousness is equivalent to the integration of the self with the universe, and on its
highest levels of spiritual reality. Only the spirit content of any value is imperishable. Even that which is
true, beautiful, and good may not perish in human experience. If man does not choose to survive, then
does the surviving Adjuster conserve those realities born of love and nurtured in service. And all these
things are a part of the Universal Father. The Father is living love, and this life of the Father is in his Sons.
And the spirit of the Father is in his Sons’ sons — mortal men. When all is said and done, the Father idea is
still the highest human concept of God. *
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hey OP... how overweight are you? and how many prescriptions are you on?
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ummm ya skipped my questions.... hmmm why does that not shock me

no answers reveal the answers... *sigh*

bless ur heart....
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If Gos loves America, then why doesn't he destroy the corporate stranglehold over our government?

Why doesn't he kill the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and all the other scum elite?
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Coming up in about 12 months.
Don't run. You'll just die tired.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
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Man, you're one twisted piece of sh*t. Seriously
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1) He has a Chosen people he Chose to do his will. And yes God plays favorites. He favors those that have faith in Him and live for Him.

2) God hates evil, need evidence, read the scriptures, need more evidence, take a look at history or current affairs. An education, I suggest you get one.

3) Pagans and atheists live miserable Godless lives and the only reason they are not starving is because they live off the backs of hard working God fearing people. God will catch up to them eventually.

The atheists and pagans commit the most crime, murders, serial killings and SUICIDES. Not a very happy bunch.

4) God does not kill people? If he did not we would be immortal. I suggest you read the Bible, you are quite ignorant.
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The God of the Bible is not the true God.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
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So do you have any children? If you do, do you hate them, or kill them when they do wrong? Cause that is what you are claiming he is doing.
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The God of the Bible is not the true God.
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!

So do you have any children? If you do, do you hate them, or kill them when they do wrong? Cause that is what you are claiming he is doing.
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I have 10 children. I am a follower of Christ.
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hey OP... how overweight are you? and how many prescriptions are you on?



ummm ya skipped my questions.... hmmm why does that not shock me

no answers reveal the answers... *sigh*

bless ur heart....
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I take no medication, I weigh about 185. Not that it is relevant. But there is your answer.
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1) He has a Chosen people he Chose to do his will. And yes God plays favorites. He favors those that have faith in Him and live for Him.

2) God hates evil, need evidence, read the scriptures, need more evidence, take a look at history or current affairs. An education, I suggest you get one.

3) Pagans and atheists live miserable Godless lives and the only reason they are not starving is because they live off the backs of hard working God fearing people. God will catch up to them eventually.

The atheists and pagans commit the most crime, murders, serial killings and SUICIDES. Not a very happy bunch.

4) God does not kill people? If he did not we would be immortal. I suggest you read the Bible, you are quite ignorant.


The God of the Bible is not the true God.
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And how exactly do you know the "true god"?
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!

So do you have any children? If you do, do you hate them, or kill them when they do wrong? Cause that is what you are claiming he is doing.


I have 10 children. I am a follower of Christ.
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You didn't answer my second question.
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I have 10 children. I am a follower of Christ.
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Have you married any of them yet?
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!

So do you have any children? If you do, do you hate them, or kill them when they do wrong? Cause that is what you are claiming he is doing.


I have 10 children. I am a follower of Christ.

You didn't answer my second question.
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Can you answer my question? What Father, and that is what God is would KILL his own children for doing wrong? Can you answer me OP?
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!
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Wow, nice! God starves children. God is love... but if you don't suck his [religion], he will starve you and burn you forever!

Yay, it's another spiritual rapist.

It's not love when any other rapist says "SUCK MY [COCK] OR I BURN YOU WITH THIS BLOWTORCH!"

And it's not love when you say "SUCK MY [RELIGION] OR MY GOD WILL STARVE YOU TO DEATH AND YOUR CHILDREN TOO!"
No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!

So do you have any children? If you do, do you hate them, or kill them when they do wrong? Cause that is what you are claiming he is doing.


I have 10 children. I am a follower of Christ.

You didn't answer my second question.

Can you answer my question? What Father, and that is what God is would KILL his own children for doing wrong? Can you answer me OP?
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Well if nothing else hopefully the question will make you think.
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It's not love when any other rapist says "SUCK MY [COCK] OR I BURN YOU WITH THIS BLOWTORCH!"


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Sounds like a party. drunk
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God loves freedom, goodness and people who love his son Jesus. Therefore he loves and favors the United States and Israel. God hates the devil, so he hates muslims and that is why he starves their children to death.

He also starves to death Pagans and Atheists. It is one of the reason the commies always just kill eachother and starve. Also look at all the Pagans in India. They live in shit and starve to death while doing it.

He loves us (Americans) also because we help protect his Chosen People the Israelis. God is all about love but you cross him and he kills you and your entire family.

Praise Jesus!



You need to stop drinking the raw sewage that runs down to the treatment plant at night,dude. seriously. You are completely screwed up in the head.


Care to explain your assertion?



You make yourself sound like a mental defective. Do you realize that? There are no Chosen people. Ok? Sorry,but you must be a real new Christian to not realize this. You cannot take the Bible or any so-called religion literally. If you do, you miss the entire point. God is No respecter of persons. That means He does not favor you anymore than He does me or the Jews. Nobody is special, but everybody is on equal footing when we are all before the throne. If you were knowledgeable in the spiritual things and not just the Bible, you would understand this.

5. The Modern Problem
(2075.4) 195:5.1 The twentieth century has brought new problems for Christianity and all other religions to solve.
The higher a civilization climbs, the more necessitous becomes the duty to “seek first the realities of
heaven” in all of man’s efforts to stabilize society and facilitate the solution of its material problems.
(2075.5) 195:5.2 Truth often becomes confusing and even misleading when it is dismembered, segregated,
isolated, and too much analyzed. Living truth teaches the truth seeker aright only when it is embraced in
wholeness and as a living spiritual reality, not as a fact of material science or an inspiration of intervening
art.
(2075.6) 195:5.3 Religion is the revelation to man of his divine and eternal destiny. Religion is a purely personal
and spiritual experience and must forever be distinguished from man’s other high forms of thought, such
as:
(2075.7) 195:5.4 1. Man’s logical attitude toward the things of material reality.
(2075.8) 195:5.5 2. Man’s aesthetic appreciation of beauty contrasted with ugliness.
(2075.9) 195:5.6 3. Man’s ethical recognition of social obligations and political duty.
(2075.10) 195:5.7 4. Even man’s sense of human morality is not, in and of itself, religious.
(2075.11) 195:5.8 Religion is designed to find those values in the universe which call forth faith, trust, and
assurance; religion culminates in worship. Religion discovers for the soul those supreme values which are in
contrast with the relative values discovered by the mind. Such superhuman insight can be had only through
genuine religious experience.
(2075.12) 195:5.9 A lasting social system without a morality predicated on spiritual realities can no more be
maintained than could the solar system without gravity.
(2076.1) 195:5.10 Do not try to satisfy the curiosity or gratify all the latent adventure surging within the soul in
one short life in the flesh. Be patient! be not tempted to indulge in a lawless plunge into cheap and sordid
adventure. Harness your energies and bridle your passions; be calm while you await the majestic unfolding
of an endless career of progressive adventure and thrilling discovery.
(2076.2) 195:5.11 In confusion over man’s origin, do not lose sight of his eternal destiny. Forget not that Jesus
loved even little children, and that he forever made clear the great worth of human personality.
(2076.3) 195:5.12 As you view the world, remember that the black patches of evil which you see are shown
against a white background of ultimate good. You do not view merely white patches of good which show up
miserably against a black background of evil.
(2076.4) 195:5.13 When there is so much good truth to publish and proclaim, why should men dwell so much
upon the evil in the world just because it appears to be a fact? The beauties of the spiritual values of truth
are more pleasurable and uplifting than is the phenomenon of evil.
(2076.5) 195:5.14 In religion, Jesus advocated and followed the method of experience, even as modern science
pursues the technique of experiment. We find God through the leadings of spiritual insight, but we
approach this insight of the soul through the love of the beautiful, the pursuit of truth, loyalty to duty, and
the worship of divine goodness. But of all these values, love is the true guide to real insight.


wow, just wow.

I am the new Christian? You just claimed you cannot take the Word of God literally? Wow, just wow.

An education, get one.
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Too deep for ya,huh? Thought so. Yep, you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base as far this whole religion thing goes.
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