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OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Should do a common sense test. Quoting: DigHere is an extraordinary list of Scientists who believe in Creation. With links to their comments. [link to www.answersingenesis.org] Why don't you e-mail them and give them your common sense test. Last Edited by OceanRiver on 09/13/2010 05:08 PM What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 905924 United States 09/13/2010 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | western education are the lack knowledge in human history , especially in science and math , when the eastern education far most better than west , ill show you as a proof Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316174mmmmkay. English isn't your strong suit, it it? |
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OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One example of hundreds. Believes in God. Excerpt from [link to www.answersingenesis.org] Dr. Jason Lisle graduated summa cum laude from Ohio Wesleyan University where he double-majored in physics and astronomy, and minored in mathematics. He did graduate work at the University of Colorado where he earned a Master's degree and a Ph.D. in Astrophysics. While there, Dr Lisle used the SOHO spacecraft to investigate motions on the surface of the sun as well as solar magnetism and subsurface weather. His thesis was entitled ?Probing the Dynamics of Solar Supergranulation and its Interaction with Magnetism.? Among other things, he discovered a previously unknown polar alignment of supergranules (solar convection cells), and discovered evidence of solar giant cells. He has also authored a number of papers in both secular and creation literature. Dr. Lisle has authored a number of books and articles. His books include: Taking Back Astronomy, The Ultimate Proof of Creation, and Old-Earth Creationism on Trial. He is also a contributing author for the Answers Books volumes I and II. Dr. Lisle?s articles include the Logical Fallacy Series, Contradictions (introduction), Evolution: The Anti-Science, Atheism: an Irrational Worldview, and many others including our popular web feedbacks. Appeared on CBNBC Last Edited by OceanRiver on 09/13/2010 05:18 PM What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PROOF THAT EDUCATED PEOPLE CAN THANK CHRISTIANITY for a thousand years of dark ages and the ruthless destruction of all great scientific and philosophical minds that dissented with the church? THANKS CHRISTIANITY! YOU'RE THE BEST! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1087049You need to get your villains straight. Another person that has no clue of who is who, or what is what. Christians were murdered by the same ones who caused the dark ages. Go back and read your history, and get some education, stop parroting tired rhetoric. The scientist that were PERSECUTED WERE BELIEVERS,the so called "CHURCH" that martyred the true Church was not the CHURCH, but a Satanic lie. look it up! What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...Bacon,Galileo,Descartes, Newton, Boyle, Faraday ... Hmm ... all wrong about God were they? What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
DNAprototype User ID: 955590 United States 09/13/2010 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand how siting examples from hundreds of years ago proves your point. Believing in God or being spiritual is one thing, but religious dogma doesn't stand the test of reason. Religion is ending, and for good reason. You can figure out why, or be one of the last of the deluded. |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pioneer of the MRI. A believer in Creator GOd. How he had to fight for his invention: [link to www.answersingenesis.org] What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand how siting examples from hundreds of years ago proves your point. Quoting: DNAprototypeBelieving in God or being spiritual is one thing, but religious dogma doesn't stand the test of reason. Religion is ending, and for good reason. You can figure out why, or be one of the last of the deluded. Okay, text back to me my point. I don't think you read the opening post. My point is there. My proof is all through this thread you are not paying attention. What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 870004 United States 09/13/2010 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smart people do not believe in God. That is what the poster said. I think this thread proves them wrong. History is full of believers who invented, explored, educated, governed, and doctored ... so such a statement has no value, it has been proven baseless by history itself. Quoting: OceanRiverI think it would be very interesting to find out how many of those inventors, explorers, educators, governors, and doctors only claimed to be Christian in order to avoid being burnt at the stake, imprisoned, or otherwise occupationally defamed. |
Psych User ID: 903456 Netherlands 09/13/2010 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religiosity and intelligence In 2008, intelligence researcher Helmuth Nyborg examined whether IQ relates to denomination and income, using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth, which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligence demonstrated that on average, Atheists scored 1.95 IQ points higher than Agnostics, 3.82 points higher than Liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than Dogmatic persuasions. "I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence are more easily drawn toward religions, which give answers that are certain, while people with a high intelligence are more skeptical," says the professor. Quoting: wikipediaGraph: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Dig User ID: 825655 United Kingdom 09/13/2010 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't understand how siting examples from hundreds of years ago proves your point. Quoting: DNAprototypeBelieving in God or being spiritual is one thing, but religious dogma doesn't stand the test of reason. Religion is ending, and for good reason. You can figure out why, or be one of the last of the deluded. |
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Dig User ID: 825655 United Kingdom 09/13/2010 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you earth bound death cult, for stunting our intellectual growth. Thank you for keeping all of us in the dark, for so long, in your wisdom. Thank you for not allowing anyone but a few to learn to read or to have access to your holy word, for a most holy book with so much great knowledge should surely be kept from the masses, this is wisom and the word of the Lord. Thank for allowing some to kill babies and make slaves of others because you said it was ok, kudos. In your wisdom and your dogma you seen fit to torture and burn some of us. For this , we humbly thank you because pain is a blessing and we are here to always feel pain, we know this now by your divine lesson. If it weren't for you God knows where we would be today, probably far better off and a more balanced, guilt free society, thank you for not allowing this to happen too soon. Like the ego, you are necessary, for without you how would we know what is good and right using your track record as a yard stick? How would we have discovered that there is something fundamentally wrong with the world, that Billions live in daily delusion, just like those folks you see on the X factor that think they can sing. Ops I did it again! Dear God, can I ask you to please look after Jimmy my pet gerbil and also stick it up your ass for safe keeping. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 787778 United States 09/13/2010 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now true intelligence is another matter, truly intelligent people tend to avoid religion and that has nothing at all to do with education! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1097327 Canada 09/13/2010 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | western education are the lack knowledge in human history , especially in science and math , when the eastern education far most better than west , ill show you as a proof Quoting: Anonymous Coward 316174This is true. The people who are most highly educated in the things that matter are Muslims. Just by admitting you are a Muslim, your intelligence is automatically increased. Correct belief makes people much more clever than false belief. All of the most important advances in mathematics, the sciences and philosophy have been made by Muslims. In fact it would be true to say that all philosophy that is not based on knowledge of the Noble Qur'an is worthless. |
lobp User ID: 1008841 United Kingdom 09/13/2010 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to the poster that called believers of God uneducated: Quoting: OceanRiverRe: Why educated people aren't religious...and why religious people aren't educated Quote Stupid Quote: "There is a very strong correlation between higher education and lack of religious affiliation. The higher one's education, the less likely one is to be religious. Or better put, the more educated you are, the more inclined you are to be an atheist or agnostic." I suppose if you lack education, skills, and knowledge, then faith is all that's left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819233 Really? Well if you did your research, you would have found out that Christianity is responsible for many Ivy League schools so ... How Christians Started the Ivy League (SEGMENT AND LINK) By Editorial Staff Published April 2008 Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth – all owe their origins to the gospel. Probably no segment of American society has turned out a greater number of illustrious graduates than New England’s Ivy League. Labels like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, still carry their own mystique and a certain aura of elitism and prestige. Yet perhaps it would surprise most to learn that almost every Ivy League school was established primarily to train ministers of the gospel – and to evangelize the Atlantic seaboard.end quote oKAY SO Not to mention the most amazing minds on this planet have embraced faith. Including many presidents of the United States. So, uneducated? You err... the link follows with info on each of the Ivy League colleges and their "Gospel" beginnings. Read it and weep. link to www.forerunner.com OK, now i know this is hard for some americans, but try to think of the rest of the world right now. How the fuck does the formation of ivy league schools have an impact on them? It doesnt! So your argument is invalid. Why don't presidents fight the war? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1070164 Sweden 09/13/2010 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only stupid people believe in God. Really? Quoting: OceanRiverWHAT would the world be with out the RED CROSS? Hospitals, the SALVATION ARMY? The YMCA the YWCA? It goes on and on. STUPID people did this? Compassionate, Godly, intelligence did this. Research the FACTS. The Red Cross is not a christian organization. Otherwise I agree with you. |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to the poster that called believers of God uneducated: Quoting: lobpRe: Why educated people aren't religious...and why religious people aren't educated Quote Stupid Quote: "There is a very strong correlation between higher education and lack of religious affiliation. The higher one's education, the less likely one is to be religious. Or better put, the more educated you are, the more inclined you are to be an atheist or agnostic." I suppose if you lack education, skills, and knowledge, then faith is all that's left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819233 Really? Well if you did your research, you would have found out that Christianity is responsible for many Ivy League schools so ... How Christians Started the Ivy League (SEGMENT AND LINK) By Editorial Staff Published April 2008 Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth – all owe their origins to the gospel. Probably no segment of American society has turned out a greater number of illustrious graduates than New England’s Ivy League. Labels like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, still carry their own mystique and a certain aura of elitism and prestige. Yet perhaps it would surprise most to learn that almost every Ivy League school was established primarily to train ministers of the gospel – and to evangelize the Atlantic seaboard.end quote oKAY SO Not to mention the most amazing minds on this planet have embraced faith. Including many presidents of the United States. So, uneducated? You err... the link follows with info on each of the Ivy League colleges and their "Gospel" beginnings. Read it and weep. link to www.forerunner.com OK, now i know this is hard for some americans, but try to think of the rest of the world right now. How the fuck does the formation of ivy league schools have an impact on them? It doesnt! So your argument is invalid. Are you kidding me? think it through before you say it. Obama went to an Ivy League School to start. AND THAT does not impact the world? Or no one from another nation has ever gone to school here in the states? Really? Who are you? I would really like to know what that kind of dumb looks like. Go find a dead thread and troll away ... What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to the poster that called believers of God uneducated: Quoting: lobpRe: Why educated people aren't religious...and why religious people aren't educated Quote Stupid Quote: "There is a very strong correlation between higher education and lack of religious affiliation. The higher one's education, the less likely one is to be religious. Or better put, the more educated you are, the more inclined you are to be an atheist or agnostic." I suppose if you lack education, skills, and knowledge, then faith is all that's left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 819233 Really? Well if you did your research, you would have found out that Christianity is responsible for many Ivy League schools so ... How Christians Started the Ivy League (SEGMENT AND LINK) By Editorial Staff Published April 2008 Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth – all owe their origins to the gospel. Probably no segment of American society has turned out a greater number of illustrious graduates than New England’s Ivy League. Labels like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, still carry their own mystique and a certain aura of elitism and prestige. Yet perhaps it would surprise most to learn that almost every Ivy League school was established primarily to train ministers of the gospel – and to evangelize the Atlantic seaboard.end quote oKAY SO Not to mention the most amazing minds on this planet have embraced faith. Including many presidents of the United States. So, uneducated? You err... the link follows with info on each of the Ivy League colleges and their "Gospel" beginnings. Read it and weep. link to www.forerunner.com OK, now i know this is hard for some americans, but try to think of the rest of the world right now. How the fuck does the formation of ivy league schools have an impact on them? It doesnt! So your argument is invalid. Are you kidding me? think it through before you say it. Obama went to an Ivy League School to start. AND THAT does not impact the world? Or no one from another nation has ever gone to school here in the states? Really? Who are you? I would really like to know what that kind of dumb looks like. Go find a dead thread and troll away ... What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only stupid people believe in God. Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070164WHAT would the world be with out the RED CROSS? Hospitals, the SALVATION ARMY? The YMCA the YWCA? It goes on and on. STUPID people did this? Compassionate, Godly, intelligence did this. Research the FACTS. The Red Cross is not a christian organization. Otherwise I agree with you. Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only stupid people believe in God. Really? Quoting: OceanRiverWHAT would the world be with out the RED CROSS? Hospitals, the SALVATION ARMY? The YMCA the YWCA? It goes on and on. STUPID people did this? Compassionate, Godly, intelligence did this. Research the FACTS. The Red Cross is not a christian organization. Otherwise I agree with you. Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... " Oh northern mothers wives and sisters, all unconscious of the hour, would to Heaven that I could bear for you the concentrated woe which is so soon to follow, would that Christ would teach my soul a prayer that would plead to the Father for grace sufficient for you, God pity and strengthen you every one." CLARA BARTON founder/organizer of the Red Cross. What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1070164 Sweden 09/13/2010 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only stupid people believe in God. Really? Quoting: OceanRiverWHAT would the world be with out the RED CROSS? Hospitals, the SALVATION ARMY? The YMCA the YWCA? It goes on and on. STUPID people did this? Compassionate, Godly, intelligence did this. Research the FACTS. The Red Cross is not a christian organization. Otherwise I agree with you. Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... [link to wiki.answers.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 841276 United States 09/13/2010 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... Quoting: OceanRiverNo the Red Cross symbol is an inverted Swiss flag. In war they needed a symbol representing neutrality to mark the aid camps where they wouldn't be attacked by either side. It was never a Christian organization. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1070164 Sweden 09/13/2010 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only stupid people believe in God. Really? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1070164WHAT would the world be with out the RED CROSS? Hospitals, the SALVATION ARMY? The YMCA the YWCA? It goes on and on. STUPID people did this? Compassionate, Godly, intelligence did this. Research the FACTS. The Red Cross is not a christian organization. Otherwise I agree with you. Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... [link to wiki.answers.com] Relation to the flag of Switzerland According to the ICRC, the emblem adopted was formed by reversing the colours of the Swiss flag.[1] However, according to jurist and Red Cross historian Pierre Boissier, no clear evidence of this origin has been found; the concept that the design was chosen to compliment the country in which the convention at which it was adopted was held, was promoted later to counter the objections of Turkey that the flag was a Christian symbol.[2] This was enshrined in the 1906 revision of the Convention.[3 [link to en.wikipedia.org] This is what the world has been told anyway. Do you know that it is a Christian organization today? |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 841276No the Red Cross symbol is an inverted Swiss flag. In war they needed a symbol representing neutrality to mark the aid camps where they wouldn't be attacked by either side. It was never a Christian organization. Clare Barton look for her quotes. Red Cross does not want to talk to you about Christianity because they have gone secular. You are wrong, roots are in the faith of the founder, and by the way if the red cross was not a christian symbol why did Islamist find the need to make their symbol with the crescent? Furthermore where do you think the swiss Got that symbol ... it is the Cross. What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1070164 Sweden 09/13/2010 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh my Gah ....d are you kidding me? The RED CROSS began as a Christian organization ..hence cross. They all start out Christian, in time secularism moves in and takes over. Amazing it took a Christian organization to think of starting a learning place for everyone, and the thankless... humanistic, atheistic, secularists bit the hand that fed them. Oh if they would have been less inclusive ... bah ... but that's what you get for treating others as you would like to be treated ...they don't return the favor ... Quoting: OceanRiverNo the Red Cross symbol is an inverted Swiss flag. In war they needed a symbol representing neutrality to mark the aid camps where they wouldn't be attacked by either side. It was never a Christian organization. Clare Barton look for her quotes. Red Cross does not want to talk to you about Christianity because they have gone secular. You are wrong, roots are in the faith of the founder, and by the way if the red cross was not a christian symbol why did Islamist find the need to make their symbol with the crescent? Furthermore where do you think the swiss Got that symbol ... it is the Cross. Prove that the Red Cross is christian and I will support them. Otherwise there are other organisations to support. |
OceanRiver (OP) User ID: 1097630 United States 09/13/2010 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " Oh northern mothers wives and sisters, all unconscious of the hour, would to Heaven that I could bear for you the concentrated woe which is so soon to follow, would that Christ would teach my soul a prayer that would plead to the Father for grace sufficient for you, God pity and strengthen you every one." CLARA BARTON founder/organizer of the Red Cross. What has been, is. What will be- has already been. Kings rise, and kings are deposed. Their domains crumble, and other dominions take their place. What is the verdict? There is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes. My other favorite sight- Prophetic Dream Journal [link to newinepouring.com] |