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Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored

 
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09/14/2010 09:50 AM
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Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored
Its a great idea, usefull websites include, scribd.com and google books, as well as many other free ebooks on various web pages, and of course wikepidea artilces and science articles.


you can organize your libarry into subjects and a mass a huge collection of so much stuff that if they do bring out net neutrality and censorship you will never run out of stuff to read or study.
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09/14/2010 09:51 AM
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too lazy
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09/14/2010 09:52 AM
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Re: Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored
I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.
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09/14/2010 09:53 AM
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I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.
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how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.
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too lazy
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its fun, really.
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i have a hard copy of the encyclopedia Britannica, upto the year 1997, roughly.
and various random books filling my book shelfs.
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT

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I've already backed up the internet on to floppy discs...
Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things.

You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support!

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If the Internet goes down, I can go an register my business as ended because where I am nobody will pick up a car to drive to me. I will have to learn to do something else, but I am flexible.
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09/14/2010 09:56 AM
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Great minds think alike OP.

I have several hundred printed books and I don't know how many ebooks, thousands, many I've never read... 'saving them for later' or in case of a scenario like you describe does occur.
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09/14/2010 09:57 AM
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I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.

how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.
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Don't forget to backup! CD's/DVD's are more reliable the hard-drives in the long run.

In the longer run, harder copies are essential!

Imagine if the media of choice 2000 years ago was 'digital' rather than 'analogue' - no records would have survived!

Space v.s. time biased modes of communication. One reaches everywhere almost instantly but vanishes almost as instantly. The other doesn't travel far but lasts for eons.
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I've already backed up the internet on to floppy discs...
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Re: Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored
I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.

how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.


Don't forget to backup! CD's/DVD's are more reliable the hard-drives in the long run.

In the longer run, harder copies are essential!

Imagine if the media of choice 2000 years ago was 'digital' rather than 'analogue' - no records would have survived!

Space v.s. time biased modes of communication. One reaches everywhere almost instantly but vanishes almost as instantly. The other doesn't travel far but lasts for eons.
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ive treid but its hard to back up 115GB.
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I find if it is absolutely valuable information, the smartest thing you can do is buy a hard copy.
If the internet goes down or gets censored (it already is) digital back ups are a good idea.
But if TSHTF i'm pretty sure you won't be running around with your computer looking for an outlet and power.
I know books are heavy, but knowledge is power.

Just my 2cents.
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09/14/2010 10:01 AM
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Already have a few external hds full of things that may prove useful.
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We are going to be the time period with the least information or wisdom to be found by the archeologues of the futures centuries. Even if they found a CD they won't find a reader and even if it did it will either not work or demand some understanding than people of that time won't have.

Keep it simple, leave fun for the next generations after TSHTF, write it on clay tablets.
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I find if it is absolutely valuable information, the smartest thing you can do is buy a hard copy.
If the internet goes down or gets censored (it already is) digital back ups are a good idea.
But if TSHTF i'm pretty sure you won't be running around with your computer looking for an outlet and power.
I know books are heavy, but knowledge is power.

Just my 2cents.
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So perhaps it is necessary to consider what information is valuable and why; rather than attempt to 'back up' everything willy-nilly.

A good filtration system will be the next "killer app"
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I find if it is absolutely valuable information, the smartest thing you can do is buy a hard copy.
If the internet goes down or gets censored (it already is) digital back ups are a good idea.
But if TSHTF i'm pretty sure you won't be running around with your computer looking for an outlet and power.
I know books are heavy, but knowledge is power.

Just my 2cents.
 Quoting: Kashodi

a wacky but probably a technology already invented and used by the military and eilites, logically you would design a printer similar to those that etch cucuits into silicon at super small scales to print books onto a slab of Grantite, Diorite or maybe titanium or the new liquid metal material thats actually harder than titanium. The printer would use diamond etching heads, and the finished product would be readble using a simple optical microscope on a grid system, solar powerd and motorized by micro motors that can take you to any book position on the entire slab or remember bookmarks etc, all done by simple very low power solar powerd microchips.
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Re: Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored
I find if it is absolutely valuable information, the smartest thing you can do is buy a hard copy.
If the internet goes down or gets censored (it already is) digital back ups are a good idea.
But if TSHTF i'm pretty sure you won't be running around with your computer looking for an outlet and power.
I know books are heavy, but knowledge is power.

Just my 2cents.


So perhaps it is necessary to consider what information is valuable and why; rather than attempt to 'back up' everything willy-nilly.

A good filtration system will be the next "killer app"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657383

ive got my own filtration systme, its called my brain.. ive got so many ebooks i can of course find the best ones, but as its been said, its only a temporary source if just the internet goes down. if TSHTF all is lost.
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Re: Who here has a digital library incase the internet goes down or gets censored
I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.

how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.
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Well, since you asked. I have five, six foot tall bookcases stuffed with books. Two five foot wide by four feet tall bookcases stuffed with books. Two closet shelves eight feet wide lined with paperbacks, three rows each. About ten boxes, at least, of books in a storage closet. Topics include: travel, reference, survival, cooking, poetry, literature, science fiction, business, computer tech, design, art, spirituality, astrology, religion, and some that are out-of-print and/or hard to find.
Included are the Harvard Classics, a set of encylopedias, several dictionaries, several Bibles, the Book of Morman, a set that includes the sacred text of every major religion ... and every single issue of "Mother Earth" since 1970.

Oh and ... some comic books dating back to the 1950s.

But I admit that that's unusual. In the past, I have chosen to buy books, rather than food. And each time I've moved, I've "paid" dearly for our family obsession.

That said, it would be wise to back up some books off the net ... which we've done in addition to all the books we already have.
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09/14/2010 10:22 AM
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I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.

how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.


Well, since you asked. I have five, six foot tall bookcases stuffed with books. Two five foot wide by four feet tall bookcases stuffed with books. Two closet shelves eight feet wide lined with paperbacks, three rows each. About ten boxes, at least, of books in a storage closet. Topics include: travel, reference, survival, cooking, poetry, literature, science fiction, business, computer tech, design, art, spirituality, astrology, religion, and some that are out-of-print and/or hard to find.
Included are the Harvard Classics, a set of encylopedias, several dictionaries, several Bibles, the Book of Morman, a set that includes the sacred text of every major religion ... and every single issue of "Mother Earth" since 1970.

Oh and ... some comic books dating back to the 1950s.

But I admit that that's unusual. In the past, I have chosen to buy books, rather than food. And each time I've moved, I've "paid" dearly for our family obsession.

That said, it would be wise to back up some books off the net ... which we've done in addition to all the books we already have.
 Quoting: Lurker 601209

my dad has around 10,000 books in the garage and atic, as he runs a book selling bussines on ebay, they are all second had books mostly worthless paperbacks. I think building a digital libary would suit you as a new hobby, and you could add to the collection you already have.
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09/14/2010 10:35 AM
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I have hard copies already.

You know, like books.

how big is your personal library.... unfortunately i dont have nearly enough space to store my 35,000 books in hard copy.


Don't forget to backup! CD's/DVD's are more reliable the hard-drives in the long run.

In the longer run, harder copies are essential!

Imagine if the media of choice 2000 years ago was 'digital' rather than 'analogue' - no records would have survived!

Space v.s. time biased modes of communication. One reaches everywhere almost instantly but vanishes almost as instantly. The other doesn't travel far but lasts for eons.

ive treid but its hard to back up 115GB.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1098325


Its not hard at all to backup 115 GB. Get a Solid State hardrive. They don't have moving parts like a normal hardrive... hence more reliable than CD/DVD and regular "needle spinning" hardrives.
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09/14/2010 10:38 AM
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I have about a hundred various PDF's (have had thousands I suppose over the years) but am and have always been, in love with books. My collection has become burdensome, but still I add - classics, reference, textbooks, fringe, theology, etc.

You know, one of the most viable threats to civilzation, at this moment in time is a natural or manmade EMP disaster.

If that happens, won't you wish you had the real thing?
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I have about a hundred various PDF's (have had thousands I suppose over the years) but am and have always been, in love with books. My collection has become burdensome, but still I add - classics, reference, textbooks, fringe, theology, etc.

You know, one of the most viable threats to civilzation, at this moment in time is a natural or manmade EMP disaster.

If that happens, won't you wish you had the real thing?
 Quoting: Tabitha 1098490

back up to dvd, the ink dye it uses to mark its data is immune to EMP and because dvd is so wide spread thru computers and consoles accross the world, there is a strong likely hood that some players will be left after the emp event.
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Loved it when Kent was sending out disks of cyberspaceorbit.com The man was special !
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Loved it when Kent was sending out disks of cyberspaceorbit.com The man was special !
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yes i remember emperpor kent.
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fahrenheit 651, temperature melt of polycarbonate plastic, CDs...
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09/15/2010 01:29 PM
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net neutrality and censorship
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net neutrality and censorship are the exact opposite.
net neutrality is a good thing.
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fahrenheit 651, temperature melt of polycarbonate plastic, CDs...
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nothing is perfect, at least its higher than paper...
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How about the schools edition of Wikipedia? It's a subset of the encyclopaedia, selected with an eye to the UK national curriculum. Download and burn to DVD if you like.

[link to www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk]
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net neutrality and censorship


net neutrality and censorship are the exact opposite.
net neutrality is a good thing.
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Net neutrality will in effect lead to censorship, since the big owners will be able to decide what can host on their sub domains.
From what i heard net neutrality will lead to internet resembling cable tv service, with the user paying extra for forums and anything out of the mainstream big boys.

so no its not a good thing at all.. everybody get backign up now.
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How about the schools edition of Wikipedia? It's a subset of the encyclopaedia, selected with an eye to the UK national curriculum. Download and burn to DVD if you like.

[link to www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 896179

im not into standardized curriculum and moderated encylopedias,, it allows for indoctrination and control of infomration to suit what the government and ruling elites want.





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