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911 was George Bush's "Bay of Pigs" --The historical context of the biggest intelligence failure in WORLD HISTORY is not really that

 
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911 was George Bush's "Bay of Pigs" --The historical context of the biggest intelligence failure in WORLD HISTORY is not really that
To understand 911, you have to understand the politics of the Bay of Pigs.

During the Bay of Pigs, the intelligence community deceived the President into thinking that a rag-tag army of American patriots and Cuban exiles had the ability to overthrow Castro. These rebels thought that their courage and determination would lull Kennedy to war over Cuba, but they were wrong. The only difference between Bush and Kennedy (911 & the Bay of Pigs fiasco) is that Kennedy acknowledged and learned from his mistakes. George Bush did not possess the intelligence and the courage of a President like John F. Kennedy. Indeed, he was the puppet of the parallel community that Kennedy had argued with, following the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Regarding the Bay of Pigs fiasco, historians who have studied Nixon's memoirs have reached the following conclusion:

"Thankfully, Richard Nixon's financial backers did not make him President of the United States, in 1960, because he would have probably invaded Cuba and triggered a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, in the process. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what Richard Nixon advised Kennedy to do. In his own words, speaking to Kennedy about Cuba, Richard Nixon said, 'I would find a proper legal cover and I would go in. There are several justifications that could
be used, like protecting American citizens living in Cuba and defending our base at Guatanamo. I believe that the most important thing at this point is that we do whatever is necessary to get Castro and communism out of Cuba.' Fortunately, John F. Kennedy was the President of the United States, in 1960."

Similarily, all the confusion that surrounds 911 is merely a product of the very same intragovernmental delusions and deceits that propelled the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Unfortunately, George Bush was the President during 911 and he was provided with what Richard Nixon would call "proper legal cover" to bomb Baghdad back to the stoneage.

Unlike John F. Kennedy, who rejected group-think decisions, George Bush accepted them, and that ultimately produced the "rag-tag" 911 fiasco.

All this deception concerning all the politics, the doublecross and the mixed motivations that are responsible for bringing down the World Trade Center is merely par for the course. The schemes and plans of rogue intelligence operatives are never fully exposed, for obvious reasons.

We will never be able to identify all the grains of sand because the truth is violently covered up. Some of the players are already dead and like the Iran-Conta scandal, we have recognized the beach because the official stories are too nonsensical to convince any reasonable person, but we will always see it in the dark because the "classified" grains of sand are beyond the reach of mere mortals.

Learn and move on... History is always the best teacher and the truth is never successfully buried because sooner or later, fool me once, fool me twice, but if you fool me a third time, then Jeb Bush will finish the job. Sounds like a joke...but is it funnier than Sarah Palin is?

Nah, I don't think so !





Can you imagine how entertaining it would be if the next republican presidential ticket was Bush and Palin?



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"Its been 2 years, when are you people going to fess up that your messiah is the cause and not bush?"
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"Its been 2 years, when are you people going to fess up that your messiah is the cause and not bush?"
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The cause of "what" specifically?
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huh?
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What is up with all these Canadian shills?
Damn, how much are you guys making these days?
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What is up with all these Canadian shills?
Damn, how much are you guys making these days?
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What is up with all these American, false accusations?


Are you trying to tell me that you get paid to spread false information, because if that is the case, shame on you onece, twice, thrice and etceteratera !
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"Its been 2 years, when are you people going to fess up that your messiah is the cause and not bush?"

The cause of "what" specifically?
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Well thats not important what is important is that you not say anything negative about bush but bash obama.
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What is up with all these Canadian shills?
Damn, how much are you guys making these days?


What is up with all these American, false accusations?
Are you trying to tell me that you get paid to spread false information, because if that is the case, shame on you onece, twice, thrice and etceteratera !
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Again, I rest my case.
Proven shill.
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And I rest mine !




Proven disinformation agent.


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The Symbolism of 9-11
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In December of 1917 Vladimir Ilych Lenin tasked his fellow Bolshevik revolutionary, Felix Dzerzhinsky, a Polish communist who'd spent a great many years in tsarist prisons, with setting up and running the secret police organization originally known as the Cheka. Picking up where the Okhrana left off, the tireless Dzerzhinsky emptied Russian prisons of murderers, rapists, and sadists of all stripes to form the rank and file of the new "organs of state security." Dzerzhinsky was a ruthless communist, a man whose every fiber was dedicated to destroying any and all who opposed the Bolsheviks, and he saw to it that many thousands of people were tortured and executed while he was the leader of the organization. He called his methodology "controlled terror," and had the backing of the Bolshevik leadership throughout his tenure as the bearer of the "sword and shield" of the revolution, a tenure which was only ended by his death due to a heart attack in 1927.

The Cheka Dzerzhinsky created was and is a permanent structure. Though it has undergone many name changes over the decades, it has always remained the same "sword and shield" of the revolution, it has always maintained its place of power in Russia and the Soviet Union. Unbridled by the rule of law (it is the law) it adheres only to communist morality, and communist morality, in short, is non-existent. This organization that Dzerzhinsky created, at least for a time though perhaps even today, is said to show new recruits a film of a fellow officer being cremated--alive. His crime? Suspicion of disloyalty. As you can imagine, it is a powerful signal. The organization commands absolute loyalty from its officers and agents, and the only way out, as with any mafia-styled organization, is via death.

Of course, there are many benefits that go along with being an officer of such an organization, just as there are many benefits for those who are members of the Communist Party. Officers of this organization are, after all, involved in not only the enforcement of the rules of the state, but in steering it, as well.

One of the directions in which Dzerzhinsky's organization steered the Communist ship of State was in the use of proxies such as could easily be found in the Islamic world. The decision was taken in the 1960's to recruit and train large numbers of Islamists from the Middle East in terrorism, and this was done accordingly. In 1964 the Soviet politburo approved a 1,000% increase in funding terrorism. This funding was not meant to combat what at that time was a virtually non-existent phenomenon outside of the communist world, but rather to conduct it, to facilitate the carrying out of communist strategy as formulated by Dzerzhinsky's organization, which by this time the world knew as the KGB. Also in 1964, the KGB created the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Thus was created the first major Islamic proxy in the communist world's war against the West.

In the mid 1960s the KGB built and staffed terrorist training camps in Cuba, where they transported thousands of Muslims from the Middle East, trained them in terrorism, indoctrinated them in Marxism, and, after their six month course, sent them back to their home countries to form quasi-independent terror cells. In 1968, the first year these Soviet proxies began "graduating" from Cuban camps, there were just 142 acts of terrorism worldwide. By 1980, that number had increased to 860. The correlation is obvious. Today, of course, there are many thousands of acts of terrorism worldwide, and all serve the goals of the worldwide communist revolution.

You might have noticed in the tapes we're treated to from bin Laden from time to time that the subjects he discusses always have to do with things like social justice, American imperialism, etc. There is virtually no difference between what bin Laden and other Islamic terrorists propagandize about and the propaganda we've heard for decades from the communist world. This is not a coincidence, of course.

By 1998 the KGB and its sister organization, Russian Military Intelligence (GRU) had established terror training camps in the Middle East, Africa, and in the former Soviet Union itself. This is where, for six months of that year, Ayman al Zawahiri, said to be the number 2 man in al Qaeda, received his terror training and Marxist indoctrination by the GRU. Dagestan, Russia, where the camp was located, was the point from which al Zawahiri was then dispatched to Afghanistan, where he had not previously been, with orders to infiltrate and gain control of bin Laden's organization. The rest, as they say, is history.

I told you I was going to tell you about symbolism, and now I will. A statue of the founder of the Cheka, Felix Dzerzhinsky, still sits in Lubyanka Square, the location of the headquarters of the organization he founded. A bust of his head sits upon the desk of the present-day officer in charge of Dzerzhinsky's organization. And his birthdate is still celebrated by the officers who today run Dzerzhinsky's organization.

Do you need me to tell you on what day Felix Dzerzhinsky was born? Perhaps not, but nevertheless I shall.

September 11.


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If you are trying to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for 911, watch this, it will surely wake you up !


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You Sir, are a Fucktard.

Go fuck yourself.

Then kill yourself.
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You Sir, are a Fucktard.

Go fuck yourself.

Then kill yourself.
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You sir are a psychopath, but you know that, don't you?
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Plan A: blame russia (via glp shilltards) failing
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Plan A: blame russia (via glp shilltards) failing
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Then they just try to blame obama, o wait to these dunces obama and russia are the same thing since they still believe russia to be "commie".
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If you are trying to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for 911, watch this, it will surely wake you up !
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I watched that last week. Terrific video. I was already very convinced JFK was killed with the full knowledge (and approval) of America's CIA (or OSS) but it was still eye opening to hear the first-hand details.

I cannot believe they didn't kill her years ago so she'd never be able to speak about it like that.

Thank god the intel bastards are not perfect and only 99% ruthless and immoral instead of 100%.
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If you are trying to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for 911, watch this, it will surely wake you up !


I watched that last week. Terrific video. I was already very convinced JFK was killed with the full knowledge (and approval) of America's CIA (or OSS) but it was still eye opening to hear the first-hand details.

I cannot believe they didn't kill her years ago so she'd never be able to speak about it like that.

Thank god the intel bastards are not perfect and only 99% ruthless and immoral instead of 100%.
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Man, that video is so amazing !


My jaw dropped when I saw it !
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If you are trying to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for 911, watch this, it will surely wake you up !



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1077720

[link to video.google.com]

for those that don't want to tie up and watch on GLP little window.
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Great idea. Unlike youtube, Google is not "clickable" for some reason.
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If you are trying to blame Lee Harvey Oswald for 911, watch this, it will surely wake you up !



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great vid
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The history here is just fascinating.
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9/11/10=Inside Job, 100% undeniable
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9/11/10=Inside Job, 100% undeniable
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9/11/01....sorry THAT was the undeniable inside job....9/11/10 was a Saturday
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"Its been 2 years, when are you people going to fess up that your messiah is the cause and not bush?"
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Dude, the economy has been in the toilet since '08.

It has been in sever decline since shortly after the idiot cowboy was elected.

You can't spin that!
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To understand 911, you have to understand the politics of the Bay of Pigs.

During the Bay of Pigs, the intelligence community deceived the President into thinking that a rag-tag army of American patriots and Cuban exiles had the ability to overthrow Castro. These rebels thought that their courage and determination would lull Kennedy to war over Cuba, but they were wrong. The only difference between Bush and Kennedy (911 & the Bay of Pigs fiasco) is that Kennedy acknowledged and learned from his mistakes. George Bush did not possess the intelligence and the courage of a President like John F. Kennedy. Indeed, he was the puppet of the parallel community that Kennedy had argued with, following the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Regarding the Bay of Pigs fiasco, historians who have studied Nixon's memoirs have reached the following conclusion:

"Thankfully, Richard Nixon's financial backers did not make him President of the United States, in 1960, because he would have probably invaded Cuba and triggered a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, in the process. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what Richard Nixon advised Kennedy to do. In his own words, speaking to Kennedy about Cuba, Richard Nixon said, 'I would find a proper legal cover and I would go in. There are several justifications that could
be used, like protecting American citizens living in Cuba and defending our base at Guatanamo. I believe that the most important thing at this point is that we do whatever is necessary to get Castro and communism out of Cuba.' Fortunately, John F. Kennedy was the President of the United States, in 1960."

Similarily, all the confusion that surrounds 911 is merely a product of the very same intragovernmental delusions and deceits that propelled the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Unfortunately, George Bush was the President during 911 and he was provided with what Richard Nixon would call "proper legal cover" to bomb Baghdad back to the stoneage.

Unlike John F. Kennedy, who rejected group-think decisions, George Bush accepted them, and that ultimately produced the "rag-tag" 911 fiasco.

All this deception concerning all the politics, the doublecross and the mixed motivations that are responsible for bringing down the World Trade Center is merely par for the course. The schemes and plans of rogue intelligence operatives are never fully exposed, for obvious reasons.

We will never be able to identify all the grains of sand because the truth is violently covered up. Some of the players are already dead and like the Iran-Conta scandal, we have recognized the beach because the official stories are too nonsensical to convince any reasonable person, but we will always see it in the dark because the "classified" grains of sand are beyond the reach of mere mortals.

Learn and move on... History is always the best teacher and the truth is never successfully buried because sooner or later, fool me once, fool me twice, but if you fool me a third time, then Jeb Bush will finish the job. Sounds like a joke...but is it funnier than Sarah Palin is?

Nah, I don't think so !





Can you imagine how entertaining it would be if the next republican presidential ticket was Bush and Palin?



I can't waithistory
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Just a psycho-op
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now that's the truth.

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