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RFID chip. Does your credit/debit card have one?

 
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Cool. Thanx Storm !!
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the 'mark isnt the chip. the Mark will be the rejection of God's system and the acceptance of Satan's earthly system. This mark is symbolically permanent in that there is no going back. Although, by the rejection of this mark, you will not be able to function in this system. This is a future scenario where a CLEAR CHOICE is necessary. A socio/politico, monetary and religious collapse will be necessary to bring this about. All approaching in the immediate horizon, imo.
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This might be the future:


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That scared the shit out of me!
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Unfortunately, everyone is going to get chipped. They are already in passports - you want to travel overseas, well only way to get a passport now is the ones with a chip. If this really is the "mark of the beast" as some have said, well we are all royally screwed because the cost of being unchipped will be too high for most folks. Are you willing to stop travelling, give up your job (oh, yeah it's coming - with the National ID card that will come as a result of this immigration brouhaha) and so on. What always puzzles me is why TPTB are so obsessed with control to the microscopic level. What is it that they are so frightened of? I dunno - but you will get their chip


When it gets to the point that they wanna insert it in the body, its gonna be a major revolt, but right now Ill deal with the system untill I have to go be homeless.


They know you will fight any insertion of it in your body. But they understand us well - I was watching a show on Discovery Channel about 2-3 yrs ago of these students at MIT who walk around with digital visors on their faces. They can browse the internet while they walk around - they kind of look like the Borg (Star Trek).

Point is, there was a discussion about how the ultimate goal is to create a mind/brain interface - they said everyone will be faced with the choice of getting devices like this, or becoming obsolete. The ones with these devices would be more productive at work/smarter so to speak, as they could pull information from the net and other databases immediately, make calculations instantly etc. So to keep your job, you'd have to upgrade yourself.

And if you think it's far fetched, how many people do you see walking around all day with ipads, ipods and other devices constantly in front of their faces - one step from an actual mind/body interface - the next step will be very easy. And once you have these devices connected to the body, no doubt there'd be LOTS and LOTS of chips in them - checkmate!

So yeah, guess if you're willing to be destitute and homeless you could reject this, but 99% of people will accept it and would actually be sleeping outside retail stores to get connected.
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Bluetooth earpiece anyone??
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Unfortunately, everyone is going to get chipped. They are already in passports - you want to travel overseas, well only way to get a passport now is the ones with a chip. If this really is the "mark of the beast" as some have said, well we are all royally screwed because the cost of being unchipped will be too high for most folks. Are you willing to stop travelling, give up your job (oh, yeah it's coming - with the National ID card that will come as a result of this immigration brouhaha) and so on. What always puzzles me is why TPTB are so obsessed with control to the microscopic level. What is it that they are so frightened of? I dunno - but you will get their chip


When it gets to the point that they wanna insert it in the body, its gonna be a major revolt, but right now Ill deal with the system untill I have to go be homeless.


They know you will fight any insertion of it in your body. But they understand us well - I was watching a show on Discovery Channel about 2-3 yrs ago of these students at MIT who walk around with digital visors on their faces. They can browse the internet while they walk around - they kind of look like the Borg (Star Trek).

Point is, there was a discussion about how the ultimate goal is to create a mind/brain interface - they said everyone will be faced with the choice of getting devices like this, or becoming obsolete. The ones with these devices would be more productive at work/smarter so to speak, as they could pull information from the net and other databases immediately, make calculations instantly etc. So to keep your job, you'd have to upgrade yourself.

And if you think it's far fetched, how many people do you see walking around all day with ipads, ipods and other devices constantly in front of their faces - one step from an actual mind/body interface - the next step will be very easy. And once you have these devices connected to the body, no doubt there'd be LOTS and LOTS of chips in them - checkmate!

So yeah, guess if you're willing to be destitute and homeless you could reject this, but 99% of people will accept it and would actually be sleeping outside retail stores to get connected.
 Quoting: Gull


I know that my husband would get the chip, he seems like the kinda person who would just go along with it. But I would have to leave him as soon as I hear about them being force implimented anywhere. I will go back to the united states and I will go live with Elijah natureboy who is a homeless guy who knows how to survive without money he has internet connect by going to the library so I could just email him hitchhike and meet up either with him or with some people like that who know how to live off the land. Maybe I should do that now but its really hardcore.
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09/27/2010 02:46 PM
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hells bells

i just noticed my household use credit card has one i do not use debit..

tracking toilet paper purchases-- hiding
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Here's instructions for a RFID blocking wallet - DIY.

[link to www.rpi-polymath.com]


They say stacking your cards/ID's together weakens the reading ability.

And probably using heavy-duty aluminum foil around the bunch is good enough to block all signals.
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Here's instructions for a RFID blocking wallet - DIY.

[link to www.rpi-polymath.com]


They say stacking your cards/ID's together weakens the reading ability.

And probably using heavy-duty aluminum foil around the bunch is good enough to block all signals.
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Here's something else I found. Looks like maybe the foil won't totally deactivate the read but will greatly shorten the distance required.

[link to www.omniscienceisbliss.org]

...

Then, I took my ID card to the entrance of a dorm on campus where there was an RFID reader. Even with my card wrapped in Wegman's brand aluminum foil (with aluminum covering the entire surface area of the card), the reader still beeped that it could detect my card when I moved my wallet close to the reader. The apparent consensus that I had found online was wrong.

The aluminum foil did, however, help with preventing the card from transmitting. Without the aluminum foil, my card was detected by the reader at a distance of about a foot and a half. With the aluminum foil, the card was not detected until it was about two inches away.

This does provide evidence that aluminum foil can be used to substantially hinder RFID, but the important note that I wish to make here is that the apparent consensus online about aluminum foil actually blocking RFID should not be believed.

For my purposes, after talking with a representative from my university about the actual data that is transmitted by my card (which is encrypted and which includes no personal information), I decided that limiting the range of transmission to two inches would be sufficient for me.

...
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It seems they are getting more common. I have seen videos on how to disable/remove them. I don't like the idea that someone can capture the info with a card reader from a few feet away.
 Quoting: <>Storm

Revelation chapter13,verse15-18.............." 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666........666= your 6 digit birthday YY/MM/DD,your 6 digit zip code,and your 6 digit personal number,your 18 digit personal number will evenually be in this RFID marc chip,and as the bible says it WILL be inplanted in YOUR right hand or YOUR forhead (if right hand amputated)................Revelation chapter14,verse9-12........" 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus............best bit now Revelation chapter20,verse4-6........" 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
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Wow, thanks for this. Just smashed the shit out of all my credit cards and IDs.
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cards ok its the inplant that is mentioned in the bible ok....Revelation chapter13,verse15-18.............." 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666........666= your 6 digit birthday YY/MM/DD,your 6 digit zip code,and your 6 digit personal number,your 18 digit personal number will evenually be in this RFID marc chip,and as the bible says it WILL be inplanted in YOUR right hand or YOUR forhead (if right hand amputated)................Revelation chapter14,verse9-12........" 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus............best bit now Revelation chapter20,verse4-6........" 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
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This might be the future:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101837



That scared the shit out of me!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725931

IT IS THE FUTURE..........Revelation chapter13,verse15-18.............." 15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666........666= your 6 digit birthday YY/MM/DD,your 6 digit zip code,and your 6 digit personal number,your 18 digit personal number will evenually be in this RFID marc chip,and as the bible says it WILL be inplanted in YOUR right hand or YOUR forhead (if right hand amputated)................Revelation chapter14,verse9-12........" 9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[g] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus............best bit now Revelation chapter20,verse4-6........" 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
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Wells Fargo Bank cards are chipped.
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i don't use a credit card but i do use my debit card all the time, it doesn't have a chip though.

while i was home recently (scotland) i had difficulty using my debit card because it didn't have the chip. seems most cards there have them and unless i used my card as a credit instead of a debit it was regected. i ended up just using cash most of the time.
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if you own & use a mobile phone, then you all are walking around & living with a permanent 'tracker'.

you could be listened to, gps'd & your behavioural movements analysed when combined with your bank cards & online purchasing history.

we have crossed the rubicon already.....
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if you own & use a mobile phone, then you all are walking around & living with a permanent 'tracker'.

you could be listened to, gps'd & your behavioural movements analysed when combined with your bank cards & online purchasing history.

we have crossed the rubicon already.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1242914


thats true and in some cases that can be very dangerous. for me however not so much, they would be listening to mundane banter about who did what to who as i walk through the isles of the supermarket.
not really worth the time or effort of tracking unless its for marketing purposes
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This might be the future:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1101837


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screw you u can try god will help me dont even trylala
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Unfortunately, everyone is going to get chipped. They are already in passports - you want to travel overseas, well only way to get a passport now is the ones with a chip. If this really is the "mark of the beast" as some have said, well we are all royally screwed because the cost of being unchipped will be too high for most folks. Are you willing to stop travelling, give up your job (oh, yeah it's coming - with the National ID card that will come as a result of this immigration brouhaha) and so on. What always puzzles me is why TPTB are so obsessed with control to the microscopic level. What is it that they are so frightened of? I dunno - but you will get their chip


When it gets to the point that they wanna insert it in the body, its gonna be a major revolt, but right now Ill deal with the system untill I have to go be homeless.
 Quoting: Barbie-The- Brain


Agree! You try put that in me, I will fight all the way. you got to damn near kill me

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We wont get the chance to 'fight' .... We will be injected with it moments after we are born...baby Along with all the 'other' crap they inject us with :(
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soooo.... if I unwrap my debit card from aluminum foil before each debit purchase, it wouldn't seem.... odd?