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RELIGION- are the illuminati the ones that see the truth of religion?

 
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RELIGION- are the illuminati the ones that see the truth of religion?
Just a thought, I am truly interested in what you ALL think, as i believe true knowledge comes from the collective.

We can all see the reason why Laws and Religion were implimented as a few thousand years ago conrol over the masses would have been nearly impossible without the FEAR of answering for your actions. Since then history has been written and re-written to suit the goals of the people in control. WHY??? more control, now look at the way we live now in western society, we answer to...........
the government
the power companies
the oil companies
supermarkets
etc etc etc
WHY do they not provide us with the tools and infastructure to be able to survive without these??? POWER/CONTROL

NOW, back to the topic of my thread, what if a few thousand years ago, a group of people that saw through the reasons of all this FEAR mongering and CONTROL. Would they not be ENLIGHTENED to the truth or ILLUMNATED by it.

KNOWLEDGE is the true power on this planet and to KNOW the TRUTH from the beginning before our history was skewed and re-written to suit goals and objectives, would provide POWER and enlightenment.

But just think how hard it would be to live in a society where they push FALSE INFORMATION into us everyday, and to have to look at everything that is told to us with suspicion and doubt. NO TRUST (most on GLP do that now anyways)

Now why dont the ILLUMINATI come into pubic view and preach what they know?
A small group of enlightened people versus RELIGIONS that have LIED, KILLED and MANIPULATED their way into the lives of a majority on this planet. Not a very fair fight huh?

Now i am not knocking religion as it provides people with a sense of togetherness and happiness. But can you belive in something that has been orchestarted to give power to few, with the planned ignorance of the rest of the people as a result.

So what I would like to hear from you ALL is ....
DO you agree/disagree? please state why
DO you think this time and age we NEED religion?
DO you think the ILLMINATI are good/bad? please state why

History is full of facts and fiction, would be nice to be able to know the one truth.

Peace and happiness to you all
(GO SAINTS ON SAT IN AFL)
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the true extent of the "force" behind religion permeates every part of human life.

orly

Religion cannot be destroyed by human hands.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Knowledge is a double-edged sword.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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dogs dont sweat that kind of stuff.
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I was hoping to get some good intersting comments on here, i should have known better
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I was hoping to get some good intersting comments on here, i should have known better
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Of course they know the truth, they created it.
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Religions are the first steps, not the top of the stairs. Once you understand your on a runway for starships, leave the tricycle behind and move forward. Do not be afraid.
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IMO, religion is anything any group of people believe in. Christianity, Islam, Science, etc.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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Democratic Fundamentalism

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ET's



They engineered us from apes, when they shouldn't have, ie craeting 4D beings in a 3d World. They have apparently interferred in our history countless times to make us more 'civilised' - but we just never seem to 'get it', we remain too animalistic, trbal and emtional.

Now we are technologically getting to the point where we can Borg-swarm the universe as mutant jihadi cyborgs - and they are never going to let us do that!

It is they that have been behind all the 'bloodline' families with their manufactured 'belief systems' to control us. Now they are behind the whole NWO global slave state - it is why they are implanting the minds of a lot of world leaders etc with this GW/eco-nonsense and is why this bullshitt has managed to fly so-far, ie it is an agenda that supposedly trumps nationalistic thinking - leading them to create the framework for Global governace.

The whole idea is that a a race we are just too individualistic and animalistic to ever be let loose on the universe - and who could disagree!?. They are going to make sure that we are made 'safe', as a microchipped slave population run by elites under their direct control.

Those of us who are safe to be let loose on the universe will be ascended (maybe)
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They engineered us from apes, when they shouldn't have, ie craeting 4D beings in a 3d World. They have apparently interferred in our history countless times to make us more 'civilised' - but we just never seem to 'get it', we remain too animalistic, trbal and emtional.

Now we are technologically getting to the point where we can Borg-swarm the universe as mutant jihadi cyborgs - and they are never going to let us do that!

It is they that have been behind all the 'bloodline' families with their manufactured 'belief systems' to control us. Now they are behind the whole NWO global slave state - it is why they are implanting the minds of a lot of world leaders etc with this GW/eco-nonsense and is why this bullshitt has managed to fly so-far, ie it is an agenda that supposedly trumps nationalistic thinking - leading them to create the framework for Global governace.

The whole idea is that a a race we are just too individualistic and animalistic to ever be let loose on the universe - and who could disagree!?. They are going to make sure that we are made 'safe', as a microchipped slave population run by elites under their direct control.

Those of us who are safe to be let loose on the universe will be ascended (maybe)


Now thats exactly what i am after, someones TRUE FEELINGS and opinions of things, no matter how weird it sounds, let it out, we might be surprised when we get more posts and put the information all together. thanks
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...to answer the title of your post...

they co-opted the truth and rewrote it with mostly their lies... some truth remains, but not much...

and it became what we call RELIGION.

ALL LIES as there is not enough truth to break free from the lies designed to program and manipulate...

The TRUTH is that the CREATOR never wanted death, sacrifice, war, poverty, famine, disease, or competition between His Children... but unless you have those things, you can't control Humans... and you can't ensure the death of as many as you want so you can have complete control of the planet... which IS the ULTIMATE goal...

Almighty God DID give the truth to some, who have spoken it, and it is still available for all to see and know, but most reject it because it so contradicts the eons of brainwashing that humanity has received...

It was HUMANITY who was to have rulership over this planet, without war and competition, in complete and total abundance of everything, with love for all... And some of us still operate that way..........
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well lets hope we can all head in the same direction
peace and love
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IMO, religion is anything any group of people believe in. Christianity, Islam, Science, etc.
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You forgot Government. Government is the biggest religion of all. Sheep put more work and faith into Government than they do praying, helping their fellow man or serving God.

The very first commandment is:

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me."

Well, today, we see the EXACT same monuments from Egypt (the Obelisk the Capitol buildings and statues) in Washington DC.

Even the statue of Liberty is the goddess Isis and or Columbia. (District of Columbia)

Of course, those things are direct violations of the second commandment:

“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God..."

The State is a religion.
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Yes and no, There are two sides to religion, All of the Parables in the Bible are a two sided story, For example
Jesus says to his followers:

IF you have even a mustard seed size of faith then you can tell a mountain to get up and walk into the sea and it will obey.

Now, This is where the argument begins, Anti-Religous people will say that it means faith is fraud, While Religous people will say it means faith can accomplish anything, There are verses which say seek the truth and you will be free, So each side seeks thier own reality and thier own truth.

Another part of the bible says:

Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are bad, your body also is full of darkness. See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness. Therefore, if your whole body is full of light, and no part of it dark, it will be completely lighted, as when the light of a lamp shines on you.

Now, If you are full of darkness you cannot see and if you are lighted you are considered Illumined, However this power group who people call Illuminati see only the anti-side of religion and became masters of thier own destiny and masters of other people's, Thinking they have seen the truth and it has set them free, Into a world with no rules, Which is why they are able to do the things they do without fearing a God, or any reprisal's for thier actions, Satan is known as the giver of light and also as the deciever - When you understand this is context without supersticion of thinking that satan is an actual being, It means the light will be a deception, So they are 'Blinded my the light' so to speak.

Your eye is your third eye, If you want to see things in thier true form you must learn to master your third eye which will allow you to see beyond the limits you thought possible, THEN you will know the truth.

Like Jesus said 'Leave them they are but blind guides if the blind lead the blind will they not both fall into a pit'

The blind and the blind - Thats the people who look at the bible's words and see it however they want.

So no matter how hard they look they will not see unless they use thier third eye.

As another part of the bible says

'They shall look but not see, They shall listen but not hear'

Disconnect from religous groups or anti-religous groups because they are all wrong, None of them see the truth.

If you want to see the truth, Then next time you are tired and want to sleep I suggest you stay awake and let your body go to sleep - It sounds impossible to some, But I assure you its very possible.

I can't teach you what the truth is and I don't believe anybody can, You have to see it for yourself, Good luck and peace - IREngima888
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Your questios are not opening coversations they are more like investigating or collecting thaughts. you can see that i've become very suspicious becose of all the f****** nwo s*** you talked about.
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..........

Now why dont the ILLUMINATI come into pubic view and preach what they know?
A small group of enlightened people versus RELIGIONS that have LIED, KILLED and MANIPULATED their way into the lives of a majority on this planet. Not a very fair fight huh?
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 Quoting: dav81 1104833

The adversary are infiltrators, all levels of all things infiltrated, up is down.


Seriously though, the newest arrivals are destroyers, there will be nothing left if they continue. They must go.
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The greatest secret of the Illuminati is that "God" and the "Devil" are the same being.

I dont believe that "god being" crap though.
"All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet" - Hunter S. Thompson

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Just a thought, I am truly interested in what you ALL think, as i believe true knowledge comes from the collective.

We can all see the reason why Laws and Religion were implimented as a few thousand years ago conrol over the masses would have been nearly impossible without the FEAR of answering for your actions. Since then history has been written and re-written to suit the goals of the people in control. WHY??? more control, now look at the way we live now in western society, we answer to...........
the government
the power companies
the oil companies
supermarkets
etc etc etc
WHY do they not provide us with the tools and infastructure to be able to survive without these??? POWER/CONTROL

NOW, back to the topic of my thread, what if a few thousand years ago, a group of people that saw through the reasons of all this FEAR mongering and CONTROL. Would they not be ENLIGHTENED to the truth or ILLUMNATED by it.

KNOWLEDGE is the true power on this planet and to KNOW the TRUTH from the beginning before our history was skewed and re-written to suit goals and objectives, would provide POWER and enlightenment.

But just think how hard it would be to live in a society where they push FALSE INFORMATION into us everyday, and to have to look at everything that is told to us with suspicion and doubt. NO TRUST (most on GLP do that now anyways)

Now why dont the ILLUMINATI come into pubic view and preach what they know?
A small group of enlightened people versus RELIGIONS that have LIED, KILLED and MANIPULATED their way into the lives of a majority on this planet. Not a very fair fight huh?

Now i am not knocking religion as it provides people with a sense of togetherness and happiness. But can you belive in something that has been orchestarted to give power to few, with the planned ignorance of the rest of the people as a result.

So what I would like to hear from you ALL is ....
DO you agree/disagree? please state why
DO you think this time and age we NEED religion?
DO you think the ILLMINATI are good/bad? please state why

History is full of facts and fiction, would be nice to be able to know the one truth.

Peace and happiness to you all
(GO SAINTS ON SAT IN AFL)
 Quoting: dav81 1104833


Creation is based upon the 'Three Primary Distortions of The Infinite One'.

1). Free Will:

In the first Law (or distortion) of Creation, the Creator receives the Free Will to know and experience Itself as an individuated though (paradoxically) unified aspect of The One.

2). Love:

In the second Law of Creation, the initial distortion of Free Will, becomes a focus point of awareness known as Logos, or 'Love' (or The Word in biblical terms). Love, or Logos, using It's Infinite Intelligent Energy, then takes on the role of co-creating a vast array of physical illusions ('thought forms') or Densities (which some call Dimensions) in which according to It's Intelligent design, will best offer the range of 'potential' experiences in which It can know Itself.

In effect, the One Infinite Creator, in dividing Itself into Logos, could be termed in your 3rd Density understanding as a 'Universal Creator'. In other words, Logos, creates on a Universal level of Being. Logos creates physical Universes, in which It and the Creator may experience theirself.

("Let there be Light")

3). Light:

To manifest this Infinite spiritual or 'Life-Force' Energy into a physical thought form of Densities, Logos creates the third distortion, of Light. From the three original Primary distortions of The One into making the Creation, arise myriad hierarchies of other sub-distortions, containing their own specific paradoxes. The goal of the Game is to enter into these in further divions of Creation, and then seek to harmonize the Polarities, in order to once again know Oneself as the Creator of them.

The nature of all such physically manifest Energy, is Light. Wherever thus exists any form of physical 'matter', there is Light, or Divine Intelligent Energy at it's Core or Centre.

Something which is Infinite cannot be 'other than', or 'many', An Infinite Creator knows only Unity. Thus, drawing upon It's Infinite Intelligence, the Infinite Creator designed a blueprint based on the finite principles of Free Will of Awareness and sub-level Creations, which in turn, could become aware of themselves, and seek to experience themselves as Creators. And so the "Russian Doll" style experiment was 'stepped down' and down and down. Levels of Creation within levels of Creation.

The One Infinite Creator (or Great Central Sun) steps down It's Infinite Energy to become Logos. Logos in turn designs vast Universes of Space (as yet unmaterialized), stepping down and splitting Itself again, into Logoi (plural), in other words, into an array of Central Suns which will each become a Logos (or 'co-creator') of It's own Universe, with each unique individualized portion of the One Infinite Creator, containing within It as It's very essence, Intelligent Infinity.

Using the Law of Free Will, each Universal Logos (Central Sun) designs and creates It's own version or perspective of 'physical reality' in which to experience Itself as Creator. Stepping down again, It focuses It's Intelligent Energy and creates the unmanifest form of Galaxies within Itself, and splits Itself into yet further 'co-creator' portions ('Sub-Logos' or Suns) which in turn will then design and manifest their own ideas of physical reality in the form of points of Conscious Awareness that we call Suns Stars and Planets.

A 'planetary entity' (or 'Soul') begins the first Density of experience, into which another individualized portion of The One can incarnate. Just as with all Logos and Sub Logos of Creation, each Soul is yet another smaller unique portion of The Infinite One. At first, the Intelligent Energy of the planet is in a state that you could call 'chaos', meaning that It's Energy is undefined. Then the process begins again. The planetary Energy begins to become aware of Itself (the 1st Density of awareness is 'Consciousness'), and the Planetary Logos (sub-sub-Logos in effect) begins to create other downward steps within Itself, and the internal make up of the planet begins to form; as the raw elements of air and fire combine to 'work on' the Waters and Earth, thus arising conscious awareness of their 'being', and the process of 'evolution' begins, forming the 2nd Density.

2nd Density beings begin to become aware of themselves, as being 'separate', and thus begin to evolve toward the 3rd Density of self-conscious-awareness, (the lowest Density into which a 'human soul' can incarnate).

Humans in turn (or the Souls incarnated within them), seek to 'return to the Light' and Love, from which they came, as they begin the journey of progression, from 3rd Density up to the 8th Density, and the return to The Infinite One-ness.
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as humans most are ignorant, a FEW elite have fed lies to MILLIONS/BILLIONS of willing subjects, the NWO-endgame will happen as a species we are too de-volved and dumbed down to wake up in time, the small group of cold-hearted sociopaths have won over the average population of emotional imbuciles
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lol

yeah, the "illuminati" are out there and they are real

and they are bad and stuff

lol
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Just a thought, I am truly interested in what you ALL think, as i believe true knowledge comes from the collective.

We can all see the reason why Laws and Religion were implimented as a few thousand years ago conrol over the masses would have been nearly impossible without the FEAR of answering for your actions. Since then history has been written and re-written to suit the goals of the people in control. WHY??? more control, now look at the way we live now in western society, we answer to...........
the government
the power companies
the oil companies
supermarkets
etc etc etc
WHY do they not provide us with the tools and infastructure to be able to survive without these??? POWER/CONTROL

NOW, back to the topic of my thread, what if a few thousand years ago, a group of people that saw through the reasons of all this FEAR mongering and CONTROL. Would they not be ENLIGHTENED to the truth or ILLUMNATED by it.

KNOWLEDGE is the true power on this planet and to KNOW the TRUTH from the beginning before our history was skewed and re-written to suit goals and objectives, would provide POWER and enlightenment.

But just think how hard it would be to live in a society where they push FALSE INFORMATION into us everyday, and to have to look at everything that is told to us with suspicion and doubt. NO TRUST (most on GLP do that now anyways)

Now why dont the ILLUMINATI come into pubic view and preach what they know?
A small group of enlightened people versus RELIGIONS that have LIED, KILLED and MANIPULATED their way into the lives of a majority on this planet. Not a very fair fight huh?

Now i am not knocking religion as it provides people with a sense of togetherness and happiness. But can you belive in something that has been orchestarted to give power to few, with the planned ignorance of the rest of the people as a result.

So what I would like to hear from you ALL is ....
DO you agree/disagree? please state why
DO you think this time and age we NEED religion?
DO you think the ILLMINATI are good/bad? please state why

History is full of facts and fiction, would be nice to be able to know the one truth.

Peace and happiness to you all
(GO SAINTS ON SAT IN AFL)
 Quoting: dav81 1104833


Creation is based upon the 'Three Primary Distortions of The Infinite One'.

1). Free Will:

In the first Law (or distortion) of Creation, the Creator receives the Free Will to know and experience Itself as an individuated though (paradoxically) unified aspect of The One.

2). Love:

In the second Law of Creation, the initial distortion of Free Will, becomes a focus point of awareness known as Logos, or 'Love' (or The Word in biblical terms). Love, or Logos, using It's Infinite Intelligent Energy, then takes on the role of co-creating a vast array of physical illusions ('thought forms') or Densities (which some call Dimensions) in which according to It's Intelligent design, will best offer the range of 'potential' experiences in which It can know Itself.

In effect, the One Infinite Creator, in dividing Itself into Logos, could be termed in your 3rd Density understanding as a 'Universal Creator'. In other words, Logos, creates on a Universal level of Being. Logos creates physical Universes, in which It and the Creator may experience theirself.

("Let there be Light")

3). Light:

To manifest this Infinite spiritual or 'Life-Force' Energy into a physical thought form of Densities, Logos creates the third distortion, of Light. From the three original Primary distortions of The One into making the Creation, arise myriad hierarchies of other sub-distortions, containing their own specific paradoxes. The goal of the Game is to enter into these in further divions of Creation, and then seek to harmonize the Polarities, in order to once again know Oneself as the Creator of them.

The nature of all such physically manifest Energy, is Light. Wherever thus exists any form of physical 'matter', there is Light, or Divine Intelligent Energy at it's Core or Centre.

Something which is Infinite cannot be 'other than', or 'many', An Infinite Creator knows only Unity. Thus, drawing upon It's Infinite Intelligence, the Infinite Creator designed a blueprint based on the finite principles of Free Will of Awareness and sub-level Creations, which in turn, could become aware of themselves, and seek to experience themselves as Creators. And so the "Russian Doll" style experiment was 'stepped down' and down and down. Levels of Creation within levels of Creation.

The One Infinite Creator (or Great Central Sun) steps down It's Infinite Energy to become Logos. Logos in turn designs vast Universes of Space (as yet unmaterialized), stepping down and splitting Itself again, into Logoi (plural), in other words, into an array of Central Suns which will each become a Logos (or 'co-creator') of It's own Universe, with each unique individualized portion of the One Infinite Creator, containing within It as It's very essence, Intelligent Infinity.

Using the Law of Free Will, each Universal Logos (Central Sun) designs and creates It's own version or perspective of 'physical reality' in which to experience Itself as Creator. Stepping down again, It focuses It's Intelligent Energy and creates the unmanifest form of Galaxies within Itself, and splits Itself into yet further 'co-creator' portions ('Sub-Logos' or Suns) which in turn will then design and manifest their own ideas of physical reality in the form of points of Conscious Awareness that we call Suns Stars and Planets.

A 'planetary entity' (or 'Soul') begins the first Density of experience, into which another individualized portion of The One can incarnate. Just as with all Logos and Sub Logos of Creation, each Soul is yet another smaller unique portion of The Infinite One. At first, the Intelligent Energy of the planet is in a state that you could call 'chaos', meaning that It's Energy is undefined. Then the process begins again. The planetary Energy begins to become aware of Itself (the 1st Density of awareness is 'Consciousness'), and the Planetary Logos (sub-sub-Logos in effect) begins to create other downward steps within Itself, and the internal make up of the planet begins to form; as the raw elements of air and fire combine to 'work on' the Waters and Earth, thus arising conscious awareness of their 'being', and the process of 'evolution' begins, forming the 2nd Density.

2nd Density beings begin to become aware of themselves, as being 'separate', and thus begin to evolve toward the 3rd Density of self-conscious-awareness, (the lowest Density into which a 'human soul' can incarnate).

Humans in turn (or the Souls incarnated within them), seek to 'return to the Light' and Love, from which they came, as they begin the journey of progression, from 3rd Density up to the 8th Density, and the return to The Infinite One-ness.
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